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Quoted: I hope they enjoy the multi-hour waits for service and every meth head in the area knowing they are in a law enforcement free zone. View Quote I suspect, or have a wild guess, that the state investigators are going to end up arresting the chief, or chasing him out of town. |
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Quoted: I hope they enjoy the multi-hour waits for service and every meth head in the area knowing they are in a law enforcement free zone. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I am thinking the guy who runs the newspaper and his mother died due to the stress of the raid will be wiping his ass with $100.00 bills. Little po dunk PD and town will be bankrupted soon, they will not be able to afford any insurance. I hope they enjoy the multi-hour waits for service and every meth head in the area knowing they are in a law enforcement free zone. What is your purpose of posting this? Would you prefer that the PD remain in operation, perhaps with the current leadership still at the helm? |
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Quoted: The judge? Oh, I have a feeling she is fucked also. https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article278237263.html View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Marion Count attorney found insufficient evidence for the search warrant and ordered all items seized returned. The Chief of police is done. https://www.kake.com/story/49437626/prosecutor-finds-insufficient-evidence-in-marion-newspaper-raid-items-to-be-returned Has he submitted a complaint about the judge that signed a warrant based on insufficient evidence? What about the officers and supervisors that signed off on the request? The judge? Oh, I have a feeling she is fucked also. https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article278237263.html Judge who signed Kansas newspaper search warrant had 2 DUI arrests, reports say |
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Quoted: I hope they enjoy the multi-hour waits for service and every meth head in the area knowing they are in a law enforcement free zone. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I am thinking the guy who runs the newspaper and his mother died due to the stress of the raid will be wiping his ass with $100.00 bills. Little po dunk PD and town will be bankrupted soon, they will not be able to afford any insurance. I hope they enjoy the multi-hour waits for service and every meth head in the area knowing they are in a law enforcement free zone. Lol are you one of the bunch? |
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Quoted: Not necessarily. Warrant request contained false information, or so it seems at this point. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Apparently not that there wasn’t a criminal case, that there wasn’t PC for a warrant. My guess is that magistrate is done. Not necessarily. Warrant request contained false information, or so it seems at this point. She had a criminal record that had been largely hidden and might not have been disclosed as required, and she faces retention elections which for her are going to be a problem. |
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Quoted: What is your purpose of posting this? Would you prefer that the PD remain in operation, perhaps with the current leadership still at the helm? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I am thinking the guy who runs the newspaper and his mother died due to the stress of the raid will be wiping his ass with $100.00 bills. Little po dunk PD and town will be bankrupted soon, they will not be able to afford any insurance. I hope they enjoy the multi-hour waits for service and every meth head in the area knowing they are in a law enforcement free zone. What is your purpose of posting this? Would you prefer that the PD remain in operation, perhaps with the current leadership still at the helm? I've watched it play out. No, those cops and their leadership need to go, but going without entirely brings its own challenges in modern America. The county and state agencies won't give a fuck unless some upstanding citizen takes matters into their own hands. |
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If these players are watching the national headlines, why would they think any one would have a problem with what they have done? We obviously gave up on rule of law some time ago. |
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Quoted: If these players are watching the national headlines, why would they think any one would have a problem with what they have done? We obviously gave up on rule of law some time ago. View Quote Yeah, their kind(and a surprising percentage of those not connected) prefer "law and order" instead of "rule of law" |
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Quoted: The town picked shitty cops, and now the town may get to live without local law enforcement. I'm saying I hope they enjoy the results of their own decision making. I've watched it play out. No, those cops and their leadership need to go, but going without entirely brings its own challenges in modern America. The county and state agencies won't give a fuck unless some upstanding citizen takes matters into their own hands. View Quote I don’t know how it works in Kansas, but I’ve never been consulted on police hiring. |
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Here is the story as I know it. The congressman was holding a meet and greet at the lady's restruant. The newspaper man who had retired from a Chicago News organization, was doing what the democratic propaganda arm does and the restruant owner had the police remove the reporter from the meet and greet. The congressman was unaware and uninvolved in the removal. The newspaper man dug up dirt on the restruant owner and gave it to the city council who was looking at her liquor license renewal. Newspaper man claims he got it from anonymous source, restruant owner claims he pretended to be her to get her record. The restruant owner's dui and driving without a license charges were from 15 or 18 years ago. (Can't remember exactly. Cops got a warrant to investigate hacking/indenty theft. When this blew up the cops turned the investigation over to the Kansas Bureau of Investigation. Despite what Aimless says we don't have State police. Closest to that would be Kansas Highway Patrol. DA withdrew warrant and return siezed items supposedly unsearched. Newspaper man's mother died few days after raid with only her son (who apparently lives with her) present. Not during raid like Aimless claims. KBI is still investigating. They will charge police if it is warranted, they will also charge the newspaperman if it is warranted. There are no good guys here.
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Quoted: I don't know how it works in Kansas, but I've never been consulted on police hiring. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The town picked shitty cops, and now the town may get to live without local law enforcement. I'm saying I hope they enjoy the results of their own decision making. I've watched it play out. No, those cops and their leadership need to go, but going without entirely brings its own challenges in modern America. The county and state agencies won't give a fuck unless some upstanding citizen takes matters into their own hands. I don't know how it works in Kansas, but I've never been consulted on police hiring. |
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Quoted: Sure you have. It just looked a lot like you were voting for the Mayor and your Councilman. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The town picked shitty cops, and now the town may get to live without local law enforcement. I'm saying I hope they enjoy the results of their own decision making. I've watched it play out. No, those cops and their leadership need to go, but going without entirely brings its own challenges in modern America. The county and state agencies won't give a fuck unless some upstanding citizen takes matters into their own hands. I don't know how it works in Kansas, but I've never been consulted on police hiring. I've yet to see a candidate run on "I'll hire a disgraced cop forced to quit because it's all our 1,900 person city can get." Frankly, you're clutching pearls that a department which never should have existed will cease to be. |
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Quoted: I've yet to see a candidate run on "I'll hire a disgraced cop forced to quit because it's all our 1,900 person city can get." Frankly, you're clutching pearls that a department which never should have existed will cease to be. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The town picked shitty cops, and now the town may get to live without local law enforcement. I'm saying I hope they enjoy the results of their own decision making. I've watched it play out. No, those cops and their leadership need to go, but going without entirely brings its own challenges in modern America. The county and state agencies won't give a fuck unless some upstanding citizen takes matters into their own hands. I don't know how it works in Kansas, but I've never been consulted on police hiring. I've yet to see a candidate run on "I'll hire a disgraced cop forced to quit because it's all our 1,900 person city can get." Frankly, you're clutching pearls that a department which never should have existed will cease to be. I'm just saying that your only recourse in local administrative issues is local politics. I honestly had no idea the size of the town/department we're talking here. I assumed it was a larger place if it could still support a newspaper in 2023. |
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Quoted: We're on the same side here. I'm just saying that your only recourse in local administrative issues is local politics. I honestly had no idea the size of the town/department we're talking here. I assumed it was a larger place if it could still support a newspaper in 2023. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The town picked shitty cops, and now the town may get to live without local law enforcement. I'm saying I hope they enjoy the results of their own decision making. I've watched it play out. No, those cops and their leadership need to go, but going without entirely brings its own challenges in modern America. The county and state agencies won't give a fuck unless some upstanding citizen takes matters into their own hands. I don't know how it works in Kansas, but I've never been consulted on police hiring. I've yet to see a candidate run on "I'll hire a disgraced cop forced to quit because it's all our 1,900 person city can get." Frankly, you're clutching pearls that a department which never should have existed will cease to be. I'm just saying that your only recourse in local administrative issues is local politics. I honestly had no idea the size of the town/department we're talking here. I assumed it was a larger place if it could still support a newspaper in 2023. The city has a population of about 1,900 and the county 12,000. Per their web site they have four full-time and one part-time officer. Once again, a small department that shouldn't exist is doing unconstitutional shit. Attached File |
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Quoted: Here is the story as I know it. The congressman was holding a meet and greet at the lady's restruant. The newspaper man who had retired from a Chicago News organization, was doing what the democratic propaganda arm does and the restruant owner had the police remove the reporter from the meet and greet. The congressman was unaware and uninvolved in the removal. The newspaper man dug up dirt on the restruant owner and gave it to the city council who was looking at her liquor license renewal. Newspaper man claims he got it from anonymous source, restruant owner claims he pretended to be her to get her record. The restruant owner's dui and driving without a license charges were from 15 or 18 years ago. (Can't remember exactly. Cops got a warrant to investigate hacking/indenty theft. When this blew up the cops turned the investigation over to the Kansas Bureau of Investigation. Despite what Aimless says we don't have State police. Closest to that would be Kansas Highway Patrol. DA withdrew warrant and return siezed items supposedly unsearched. Newspaper man's mother died few days after raid with only her son (who apparently lives with her) present. Not during raid like Aimless claims. KBI is still investigating. They will charge police if it is warranted, they will also charge the newspaperman if it is warranted. There are no good guys here. View Quote Are you a member of the police force there by any chance? That's about the most slanted thing on this I've read. |
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Quoted: The city has a population of about 1,900 and the county 12,000. Per their web site they have four full-time and one part-time officer. Once again, a small department that shouldn't exist is doing unconstitutional shit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66085/Untitled_jpg-2923812.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The town picked shitty cops, and now the town may get to live without local law enforcement. I'm saying I hope they enjoy the results of their own decision making. I've watched it play out. No, those cops and their leadership need to go, but going without entirely brings its own challenges in modern America. The county and state agencies won't give a fuck unless some upstanding citizen takes matters into their own hands. I don't know how it works in Kansas, but I've never been consulted on police hiring. I've yet to see a candidate run on "I'll hire a disgraced cop forced to quit because it's all our 1,900 person city can get." Frankly, you're clutching pearls that a department which never should have existed will cease to be. I'm just saying that your only recourse in local administrative issues is local politics. I honestly had no idea the size of the town/department we're talking here. I assumed it was a larger place if it could still support a newspaper in 2023. The city has a population of about 1,900 and the county 12,000. Per their web site they have four full-time and one part-time officer. Once again, a small department that shouldn't exist is doing unconstitutional shit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66085/Untitled_jpg-2923812.JPG How does a city of 1900 have the tax base to afford 4.5 cops and to equip them? |
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Quoted: How does a city of 1900 have the tax base to afford 4.5 cops and to equip them? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The town picked shitty cops, and now the town may get to live without local law enforcement. I'm saying I hope they enjoy the results of their own decision making. I've watched it play out. No, those cops and their leadership need to go, but going without entirely brings its own challenges in modern America. The county and state agencies won't give a fuck unless some upstanding citizen takes matters into their own hands. I don't know how it works in Kansas, but I've never been consulted on police hiring. I've yet to see a candidate run on "I'll hire a disgraced cop forced to quit because it's all our 1,900 person city can get." Frankly, you're clutching pearls that a department which never should have existed will cease to be. I'm just saying that your only recourse in local administrative issues is local politics. I honestly had no idea the size of the town/department we're talking here. I assumed it was a larger place if it could still support a newspaper in 2023. The city has a population of about 1,900 and the county 12,000. Per their web site they have four full-time and one part-time officer. Once again, a small department that shouldn't exist is doing unconstitutional shit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66085/Untitled_jpg-2923812.JPG How does a city of 1900 have the tax base to afford 4.5 cops and to equip them? When they median household income is less than $50k? They don't. Their entire PD budget for 22 was $373k. For four and half officers, equipment, training, gas etc. |
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Quoted: When they median household income is less than $50k? They don't. Their entire PD budget for 22 was $373k. For four and half officers, equipment, training, gas etc. View Quote Why did you hire a guy who retired to run away from a sexual harassment investigation? 1. He was the only experienced cop who wanted the job. 2. We didn't know he retired in disgrace, but for what we pay, everybody is either desperate for their first job or carrying baggage. 3. Since the other 3 cops are all men (I'm guessing but I hope so), a creeper is probably a better fit than most of the old guys with baggage. |
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Quoted: Here is the story as I know it. The congressman was holding a meet and greet at the lady's restruant. The newspaper man who had retired from a Chicago News organization, was doing what the democratic propaganda arm does and the restruant owner had the police remove the reporter from the meet and greet. The congressman was unaware and uninvolved in the removal. The newspaper man dug up dirt on the restruant owner and gave it to the city council who was looking at her liquor license renewal. Newspaper man claims he got it from anonymous source, restruant owner claims he pretended to be her to get her record. The restruant owner's dui and driving without a license charges were from 15 or 18 years ago. (Can't remember exactly. Cops got a warrant to investigate hacking/indenty theft. When this blew up the cops turned the investigation over to the Kansas Bureau of Investigation. Despite what Aimless says we don't have State police. Closest to that would be Kansas Highway Patrol. DA withdrew warrant and return siezed items supposedly unsearched. Newspaper man's mother died few days after raid with only her son (who apparently lives with her) present. Not during raid like Aimless claims. KBI is still investigating. They will charge police if it is warranted, they will also charge the newspaperman if it is warranted. There are no good guys here. View Quote Yes there is. And it's not cody and his henchmen. |
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Quoted: Here is the story as I know it. The congressman was holding a meet and greet at the lady's restruant. The newspaper man who had retired from a Chicago News organization, was doing what the democratic propaganda arm does and the restruant owner had the police remove the reporter from the meet and greet. The congressman was unaware and uninvolved in the removal. The newspaper man dug up dirt on the restruant owner and gave it to the city council who was looking at her liquor license renewal. Newspaper man claims he got it from anonymous source, restruant owner claims he pretended to be her to get her record. The restruant owner's dui and driving without a license charges were from 15 or 18 years ago. (Can't remember exactly. Cops got a warrant to investigate hacking/indenty theft. When this blew up the cops turned the investigation over to the Kansas Bureau of Investigation. Despite what Aimless says we don't have State police. Closest to that would be Kansas Highway Patrol. DA withdrew warrant and return siezed items supposedly unsearched. Newspaper man's mother died few days after raid with only her son (who apparently lives with her) present. Not during raid like Aimless claims. KBI is still investigating. They will charge police if it is warranted, they will also charge the newspaperman if it is warranted. There are no good guys here. View Quote https://www.kansas.gov/kbi/ I didn't say the little old lady died during the raid. so since you have the inside line-what did the local newspaper find out about the chief that the newspaper turned over to the city shortly before the raids? |
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Quoted: Your "not state police" have a state website https://www.kansas.gov/kbi/ I didn't say the little old lady died during the raid. so since you have the inside line-what did the local newspaper find out about the chief that the newspaper turned over to the city shortly before the raids? View Quote And they are law enforcement (aka police). |
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Quoted: Your "not state police" have a state website https://www.kansas.gov/kbi/ I didn't say the little old lady died during the raid. so since you have the inside line-what did the local newspaper find out about the chief that the newspaper turned over to the city shortly before the raids? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Here is the story as I know it. The congressman was holding a meet and greet at the lady's restruant. The newspaper man who had retired from a Chicago News organization, was doing what the democratic propaganda arm does and the restruant owner had the police remove the reporter from the meet and greet. The congressman was unaware and uninvolved in the removal. The newspaper man dug up dirt on the restruant owner and gave it to the city council who was looking at her liquor license renewal. Newspaper man claims he got it from anonymous source, restruant owner claims he pretended to be her to get her record. The restruant owner's dui and driving without a license charges were from 15 or 18 years ago. (Can't remember exactly. Cops got a warrant to investigate hacking/indenty theft. When this blew up the cops turned the investigation over to the Kansas Bureau of Investigation. Despite what Aimless says we don't have State police. Closest to that would be Kansas Highway Patrol. DA withdrew warrant and return siezed items supposedly unsearched. Newspaper man's mother died few days after raid with only her son (who apparently lives with her) present. Not during raid like Aimless claims. KBI is still investigating. They will charge police if it is warranted, they will also charge the newspaperman if it is warranted. There are no good guys here. https://www.kansas.gov/kbi/ I didn't say the little old lady died during the raid. so since you have the inside line-what did the local newspaper find out about the chief that the newspaper turned over to the city shortly before the raids? Don't forget the dui judge. |
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Quoted: Your "not state police" have a state website https://www.kansas.gov/kbi/ I didn't say the little old lady died during the raid. so since you have the inside line-what did the local newspaper find out about the chief that the newspaper turned over to the city shortly before the raids? View Quote They are investigators, not a police force and definitely not a state police force. They provide investigation expertise were needed and run the state crime lab. They also have a statewide "swat" team. I used to share office space with the head of their "swat" team. Like I said, no good guys in the story. |
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Quoted: They are investigators, not a police force and definitely not a state police force. They provide investigation expertise were needed and run the state crime lab. They also have a statewide "swat" team. I used to share office space with the head of their "swat" team. Like I said, no good guys in the story. View Quote So where did you get your version of the story, from KBI friends involved with the investigation? |
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Quoted: You haven't read all the articles. I'm not saying they did what was alleged it is being investigated whether or not they obtained the records fraudulently. View Quote I think the outrage is that it doesn't sound like there was enough probable cause for a warrant. But they were able to get one anyways from a seemingly complicit judge. |
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I want to know what will happen to the restaurant owner who apparently started all this.
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Quoted: They are investigators, not a police force and definitely not a state police force. They provide investigation expertise were needed and run the state crime lab. They also have a statewide "swat" team. I used to share office space with the head of their "swat" team. Like I said, no good guys in the story. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Your "not state police" have a state website https://www.kansas.gov/kbi/ I didn't say the little old lady died during the raid. so since you have the inside line-what did the local newspaper find out about the chief that the newspaper turned over to the city shortly before the raids? They are investigators, not a police force and definitely not a state police force. They provide investigation expertise were needed and run the state crime lab. They also have a statewide "swat" team. I used to share office space with the head of their "swat" team. Like I said, no good guys in the story. So they aren't a police force. They just investigate crime, arrest people, have a swat team, and do other law enforcement things that police forces do. |
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Quoted: You haven't read all the articles. I'm not saying they did what was alleged it is being investigated whether or not they obtained the records fraudulently. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: There’s nothing in the articles to indicate that the paper did anything wrong. You haven't read all the articles. I'm not saying they did what was alleged it is being investigated whether or not they obtained the records fraudulently. The only people that claim that are the police, the paper says they were tipped off by former coworkers in one case and an ex in another. The county already looked into all of it and said there was no PC for a warrant in the first place. |
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Quoted: The only people that claim that are the police, the paper says they were tipped off by former coworkers in one case and an ex in another. The county already looked into all of it and said there was no PC for a warrant in the first place. View Quote And I included all that info in my very first post in this thread. |
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Quoted: So they aren't a police force. They just investigate crime, arrest people, have a swat team, and do other law enforcement things that police forces do. View Quote That is correct, they only provide all that as assistance for local police. They don't run patrols the don't do speeding tickets they don't respond to 911 calls unless they are requested by locals. But hey go ahead and tell a resident of Kansas what the KBI is with all your knowledge. |
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Quoted: That is correct, they only provide all that as assistance for local police. They don't run patrols the don't do speeding tickets they don't respond to 911 calls unless they are requested by locals. But hey go ahead and tell a resident of Kansas what the KBI is with all your knowledge. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: So they aren't a police force. They just investigate crime, arrest people, have a swat team, and do other law enforcement things that police forces do. That is correct, they only provide all that as assistance for local police. They don't run patrols the don't do speeding tickets they don't respond to 911 calls unless they are requested by locals. But hey go ahead and tell a resident of Kansas what the KBI is with all your knowledge. https://policecareers.theiacp.org/profile/kansas-bureau-of-investigation/1120774/ https:// "policecareers" .theiacp.org/profile/ "kansas-bureau-of-investigation" /1120774/ |
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Quoted: Nope read all the local articles about the incident and from a local I used to rent pasture from. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Nope read all the local articles about the incident and from a local I used to rent pasture from. Quoted: Not sure what you mean by “your version.” That “version” is the truth and is readily available in the news articles. Thanks. |
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Police chief had worked in Kansas City and sexually harassed and insulted a female employee. He called her and apologized but she recorded it. She filed a complaint.
The small town newspaper said they found out "something" about the chief and told the city. It must have been this. The newspaper says they think the chief's real motive in raiding the newspaper was to retaliate for the newspaper tattling in him https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12418635/amp/Cop-carried-Kansas-newspaper-raid-secretly-recorded-female-officer-making-insulting-sexist-comments-reassigned-dogwatch-shift-police-sources-claim.html |
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A Raid On A Kansas Newspaper Likely Broke The Law, Experts Say. But Which One?
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Quoted: A Raid On A Kansas Newspaper Likely Broke The Law, Experts Say. But Which One? https://hosted.ap.org/article/bead3f49d323c784d40154067141dc7c/raid-kansas-newspaper-likely-broke-law-experts-say-which View Quote |
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Seems like if you wanted to find out if an criminal improperly masqueraded as someone to obtain her criminal background you'd first contact the not state police who would have a record as to whether anyone accessed her info.
Course I was never the head of the property department from 11pm-7am |
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Quoted: That is correct, they only provide all that as assistance for local police. They don't run patrols the don't do speeding tickets they don't respond to 911 calls unless they are requested by locals. But hey go ahead and tell a resident of Kansas what the KBI is with all your knowledge. View Quote Yeah bro that’s exactly how state police usually work. You have TWO state police agencies in Kansas. |
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