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Posted: 7/17/2019 1:52:33 PM EDT
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Before World War 2 the numbers were reversed- Colt owned the police market. After the war S&W had a new president who aggressively went after the police market and by the 70's dominated it. |
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Posted: 7/17/2019 2:15:45 PM EDT
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We made $8400 a year and had to buy everything except the three short sleeve shirts, 3 pair of pants and a bus driver hat the city issued us. If you wanted long sleeve shirts, a coat, a raincoat you bought that shit yourself. Back then a Python NIB cost a helluva lot more than a Model 19. A Python cost more than a months salary. We coveted Pythons, but I RARELY saw one in a duty holster. A couple of the guys had Diamondbacks, but if they had a Colt it was likely a Trooper. |
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Posted: 7/17/2019 5:16:40 PM EDT
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Such wonderful worls of art.
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Posted: 7/17/2019 5:36:58 PM EDT
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I have a MKIII Trooper that has seen an estimated 100K rounds of basically hot .38 special loads shooting metal silho. Never missed a beat. The trigger has been adjusted so that it will not function as a DA, but that results in a super sweet SA trigger pull. Far better trigger than my Dan W. And, I have matching Troopers in 22lr and 22 mag (although the 22 mag is in electo. nickle.) The 22lr. version of the Trooper with a long barrel is simply a joy to shoot in metal silho. WTF happened to deep blue? I love that finish, but so many of the modern blued guns just pale in comparison. Mfger's need to bring back the deep blue. Few people are willing to spend an extra couple hundred bucks for that finishing expertise anymore. |
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Posted: 7/17/2019 6:49:39 PM EDT
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I agree with pretty much OPs post, having worked deputy reserve in the late 70s to the very early 90s. Having said that, my personal preference (having owned and shot both) is for the 4" versions. Model 19 4" NIB was my first .357 Magum, bought for the princely sum of $104 and change in `74 IIRC. Wish I still had it. I carried a Model 28 and later a 686 while on the department, though. |
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Posted: 7/17/2019 7:43:52 PM EDT
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The 19 is, for the lack of better words, more svelte than the 686. The 28 is a tank. The 686 is a little of both. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I agree with pretty much OPs post, having worked deputy reserve in the late 70s to the very early 90s. Having said that, my personal preference (having owned and shot both) is for the 4" versions. Model 19 4" NIB was my first .357 Magum, bought for the princely sum of $104 and change in `74 IIRC. Wish I still had it. I carried a Model 28 and later a 686 while on the department, though. I like the N frame and registered magnum but they’re just too big for my hand. An old coworker has a papered registered magnum. Cool looking gun. |
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Posted: 7/17/2019 7:48:38 PM EDT
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To me, the K Frame is the perfect size duty revolver. The L Frame while a stronger gun. It just a tad heavier and bulky. I like the L Frames and N Frames. But they have different roles.
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Posted: 7/17/2019 8:10:36 PM EDT
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To me, the K Frame is the perfect size duty revolver. The L Frame while a stronger gun. It just a tad heavier and bulky. I like the L Frames and N Frames. But they have different roles. Or maybe a Mountain gun. There's something about large frame, tapered barrel guns for woods bumming, sitting around fires, etc. |
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Posted: 7/17/2019 8:20:13 PM EDT
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I keep looking to pick up a m28-2. I have an Elpasso saddlery Threepersons N frame holster that needs filling. Or maybe a Mountain gun. There's something about large frame, tapered barrel guns for woods bumming, sitting around fires, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To me, the K Frame is the perfect size duty revolver. The L Frame while a stronger gun. It just a tad heavier and bulky. I like the L Frames and N Frames. But they have different roles. Or maybe a Mountain gun. There's something about large frame, tapered barrel guns for woods bumming, sitting around fires, etc. 
(Not my picture, but mine is just like it) |
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Posted: 7/17/2019 9:07:14 PM EDT
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Make mine a 686
I really like my 19, but the 686 was my first love. 
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Posted: 7/18/2019 6:11:22 PM EDT
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Might be getting a 6" 66-1
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Posted: 7/18/2019 6:46:05 PM EDT
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Might be getting a 6" 66-1 |
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Posted: 7/19/2019 12:34:35 AM EDT
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Nice, robbing another little ole lady? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Might be getting a 6" 66-1 
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Posted: 7/19/2019 12:41:57 AM EDT
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I proudly own Colt .357 #50xx in 4". Its a neat .357 you don't see very often. It is noticeably smaller and lighter than my S&W mod 28 and has an even better trigger. I wanted a snake gun, but when I stumbled over the .357 at a really good price I couldn't resist.
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Posted: 7/19/2019 6:34:49 AM EDT
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I proudly own Colt .357 #50xx in 4". Its a neat .357 you don't see very often. It is noticeably smaller and lighter than my S&W mod 28 and has an even better trigger. I wanted a snake gun, but when I stumbled over the .357 at a really good price I couldn't resist. 
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Posted: 7/19/2019 7:22:29 AM EDT
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Might be getting a 6" 66-1 http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/media/tnYri4n2Frnig/giphy.gif 
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Posted: 7/19/2019 7:26:04 AM EDT
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Not much to add but a pic. Old school M&P duty gun of a relative that worked Pittsburgh PD. I have an identical one with 6" barrel too. Apparently the chroming was a thing for awhile
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Posted: 7/19/2019 7:27:32 AM EDT
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Damn good gun. Cheaper Than Dirt did a good article on them. https://i2.wp.com/blog.cheaperthandirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/c357-2.jpg?w=1350&ssl=1 Range Report: The Colt .357 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I proudly own Colt .357 #50xx in 4". Its a neat .357 you don't see very often. It is noticeably smaller and lighter than my S&W mod 28 and has an even better trigger. I wanted a snake gun, but when I stumbled over the .357 at a really good price I couldn't resist. https://i2.wp.com/blog.cheaperthandirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/c357-2.jpg?w=1350&ssl=1 Range Report: The Colt .357 |
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Posted: 7/19/2019 7:31:40 AM EDT
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I have a 13-1. I believe it was the issue gun for the FBI for a time. Simple, smooth, and plenty accurate.
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Posted: 7/19/2019 7:34:50 AM EDT
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I have a 13-1. I believe it was the issue gun for the FBI for a time. Simple, smooth, and plenty accurate. |
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Posted: 7/19/2019 7:36:31 AM EDT
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 Attached File"an elegant weapon of a more civilized age." |
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Posted: 7/19/2019 7:44:23 AM EDT
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@Taboot, get it papered from Roy Jinks if it is a legit FBI gun. They've rare as hell. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a 13-1. I believe it was the issue gun for the FBI for a time. Simple, smooth, and plenty accurate. |
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Posted: 7/19/2019 7:45:29 AM EDT
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I don't think it is. Square butt and 4 or 5" barrel. I believe the FBI guns were round butt and 3" barrel. Thanks though! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a 13-1. I believe it was the issue gun for the FBI for a time. Simple, smooth, and plenty accurate. |
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Posted: 7/19/2019 8:00:34 AM EDT
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Love those big wood target stocks on the Python and S&W revolvers. I always hated those skinny ones.
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Posted: 7/19/2019 8:59:31 AM EDT
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Damn good gun. Cheaper Than Dirt did a good article on them. https://i2.wp.com/blog.cheaperthandirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/c357-2.jpg?w=1350&ssl=1 Range Report: The Colt .357 |
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Posted: 7/19/2019 9:11:09 AM EDT
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I wish mine was a 6" barrel but it was the first one I had ever seen for a reasonable price so I jumped on the 4". It balances really nicely so the 6" may have been a little muzzle heavy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn good gun. Cheaper Than Dirt did a good article on them. https://i2.wp.com/blog.cheaperthandirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/c357-2.jpg?w=1350&ssl=1 Range Report: The Colt .357 |
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Posted: 7/19/2019 9:12:51 AM EDT
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I've had this old Model 29 for thirty odd years. Shoot it regularly in competition with .44 Special loads. I'll be carrying it, with 305 gr. hard cast flat point handloads, on a backpack trip into the Thorofare in a couple weeks. I love it, although my main competition revolver is a 686. You can do wonderful things with a S&W trigger:
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Posted: 7/19/2019 9:45:03 AM EDT
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I'd like a 4" Colt .357. Good guns and that's what led to the development of the Python. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn good gun. Cheaper Than Dirt did a good article on them. https://i2.wp.com/blog.cheaperthandirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/c357-2.jpg?w=1350&ssl=1 Range Report: The Colt .357 I've been hankering for this since it was posted but just can't justify it right now. |
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Posted: 7/19/2019 9:54:41 AM EDT
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To me, the K Frame is the perfect size duty revolver. The L Frame while a stronger gun. It just a tad heavier and bulky. I like the L Frames and N Frames. But they have different roles. Duty or carry gun K FRAME! Game gun for maximum round count, L frame. |
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Posted: 7/19/2019 9:56:08 AM EDT
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@Taboot, get it papered from Roy Jinks if it is a legit FBI gun. They've rare as hell. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a 13-1. I believe it was the issue gun for the FBI for a time. Simple, smooth, and plenty accurate. |
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Posted: 7/19/2019 10:18:43 AM EDT
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Colt .357 I've been hankering for this since it was posted but just can't justify it right now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn good gun. Cheaper Than Dirt did a good article on them. https://i2.wp.com/blog.cheaperthandirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/c357-2.jpg?w=1350&ssl=1 Range Report: The Colt .357 I've been hankering for this since it was posted but just can't justify it right now. |
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Posted: 7/19/2019 10:27:36 AM EDT
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Too rich for my blood. I don't have discretionary funds at the moment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn good gun. Cheaper Than Dirt did a good article on them. https://i2.wp.com/blog.cheaperthandirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/c357-2.jpg?w=1350&ssl=1 Range Report: The Colt .357 I've been hankering for this since it was posted but just can't justify it right now. |
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Posted: 7/19/2019 10:58:55 AM EDT
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Great thread OP.
I have more Rugers than Colt's and S&W's, but enjoyed reading this thread. My Colt revolver is an Official Police. This thread is motivating me get it out from the back of the safe and take it to the range. |
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Posted: 7/19/2019 11:01:42 AM EDT
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Colt .357 I've been hankering for this since it was posted but just can't justify it right now.  Attached File Attached FileTarget grips and hammer. Some finish wear at the muzzle and on the cylinder. I was lucky enough to get it for less than the one you posted. |
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Posted: 7/19/2019 11:53:29 AM EDT
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While we're on the subject of barrel length and revolvers of another age, perhaps somebody could explain the three-inch Detective Special to me. I like the gun a lot, but don't understand who the intended market was. Kind of big for concealment and hardly a snub nose, but rather small for a belt gun.
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Posted: 7/19/2019 12:08:38 PM EDT
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Let's not forget the Colt and S&W revolvers that served in WW-2 and afterwards both stateside and overseas.....Many of the Colt Commando (Official Police) and Victory Model (pre-model 10 M&P) revolvers saw use in PDs when they were surplused-off.
1943 Colt Commando with issue holster.  Attached File1943 US Navy marked/issued Victory Model w/named USN Boyt '43 M3 holster.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/19/2019 12:42:36 PM EDT
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Old School Lawman......S&W 1917 45acp
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Posted: 7/19/2019 1:01:29 PM EDT
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While we're on the subject of barrel length and revolvers of another age, perhaps somebody could explain the three-inch Detective Special to me. I like the gun a lot, but don't understand who the intended market was. Kind of big for concealment and hardly a snub nose, but rather small for a belt gun. https://i.imgur.com/vTSU4RUh.jpg |
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Posted: 7/19/2019 1:03:27 PM EDT
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Let's not forget the Colt and S&W revolvers that served in WW-2 and afterwards both stateside and overseas.....Many of the Colt Commando (Official Police) and Victory Model (pre-model 10 M&P) revolvers saw use in PDs when they were surplused-off. 1943 Colt Commando with issue holster. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/88145/DSCN9024__2__JPG-1022111.JPG 1943 US Navy marked/issued Victory Model w/named USN Boyt '43 M3 holster. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/88145/DSCN9025__2__JPG-1022115.JPG |
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Posted: 7/19/2019 1:11:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI can smell the camp smoke and hear the yotes from that pic.
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Posted: 7/19/2019 2:10:08 PM EDT
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I started carrying a Model 66 I wasn't old enough to buy, my Daddy had to buy my first duty gun. I worked with guys that carried Colts and guys who carried Smiths. Smith guys loved their Smiths, the Colt guys always loved their Colts. People on the internet talk about them like a K frame would shatter into a million pieces if you fired a dozen or so 357 mag loads in them, simply not true. I shot K frame magnums with handloads, factory loads, both 38 and 357 and never ever shot one loose. Back in the day we had to buy our own ammo, and we all carried some form of Super Vels 125 grn or similar magnum load. Winchester developed Black Talon and most of the guys I worked with switched to those. Most of us carried a J frame backup, I never saw a Colt Cobra or similar as a backup gun. They were J frames or sometimes PPKs or similar type small autoloader. Long guns were Ithaca and Remington shotguns, M1 Carbines and clones and lever action 30-30s. KTW came out with their "armor piercing" ammo and a lot of us carried it either in a speed loader or in the handgun itself in case we had to shoot through a car door (a more popular occurrence then than it is now, shooting at cars didn't really "count" back then)... L frame guns were heavier and at least around here never as popular as K frames..... Just some random thoughts on police revolvers "back in the day' |
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Posted: 7/19/2019 4:17:23 PM EDT
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Here's mine: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/464752/357_left_resized_-_Copy_jpg-1022050.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/464752/357_right_resized_-_Copy_jpg-1022051.JPG Target grips and hammer. Some finish wear at the muzzle and on the cylinder. I was lucky enough to get it for less than the one you posted. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Colt .357 I've been hankering for this since it was posted but just can't justify it right now. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/464752/357_left_resized_-_Copy_jpg-1022050.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/464752/357_right_resized_-_Copy_jpg-1022051.JPG Target grips and hammer. Some finish wear at the muzzle and on the cylinder. I was lucky enough to get it for less than the one you posted. 
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Posted: 7/20/2019 1:10:05 PM EDT
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Here's mine: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/464752/357_left_resized_-_Copy_jpg-1022050.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/464752/357_right_resized_-_Copy_jpg-1022051.JPG Target grips and hammer. Some finish wear at the muzzle and on the cylinder. I was lucky enough to get it for less than the one you posted. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Colt .357 I've been hankering for this since it was posted but just can't justify it right now. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/464752/357_left_resized_-_Copy_jpg-1022050.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/464752/357_right_resized_-_Copy_jpg-1022051.JPG Target grips and hammer. Some finish wear at the muzzle and on the cylinder. I was lucky enough to get it for less than the one you posted. |
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