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Posted: 4/11/2023 11:29:41 AM EDT
Video footage from a doorbell camera installed at a house beyond the runway shows the aircraft passing low overhead, missing electrical wires by mere feet.




A cargo aircraft that struck the top of a tree at the end of a runway as it took off was 606lbs (274kg) overweight, according to an investigation into the incident.

On February 3, 2022, an Aerosucre Boeing 737-200 with a crew of five took off from Puerto Carreno Airport in Colombia at a dangerously low altitude and, as it became airborne and the landing gear retracted, clipped the top of a 46ft high tree located (967ft) past the end of the runway.


The crew returned to the airport around 20 minutes after departure after the left-hand engine lost power.

A subsequent inspection found that the engine had ingested vegetation and vegetation was discovered embedded in parts of the left wing.


el avión que por poco se cae en puerto carreño vichada. casi vuelve a pasar una tragedia nuevamente



Before returning to the airport the Bogota-bound aircraft climbed to 2,500ft and the crew restarted the left-hand engine. However, it was overheating and smoke was seen coming out of it after the aircraft landed, though no fire was evident.

As reported in the Aviation Herald, Colombia's Aeronautica Civil released its findings into the 'serious incident' this week, concluding that the aircraft became airborne too far down the runway owing to 'extreme conditions of aircraft weight', with thinner air density caused by a warmer temperature than expected - 33.9C - pinpointed as another contributing factor.

It was also noted that the first officer claimed that the captain did not get the aircraft airborne when he called out that take-off speed had been called - possibly because of the extra weight.

The report said that 'late rotation [when the pilot pulls the nose of the aircraft up to take off] caused by extreme conditions of aircraft weight and density altitude… did not permit the aircraft to achieve a sufficient climb rate, climb angle and altitude to clear the obstacles in the take-off trajectory'.

The crew was apparently aware that the aircraft was overweight – at 108,577lbs versus a maximum take-off weight of 107,950lbs - and was criticised in the report for being 'overconfident' in their assumption that they could lose weight during the taxi for departure.





The incident comes seven years after an Aerosucre plane overshot the runway at Puerto Carreno and crashed, killing five people, with one person surviving.

Witnesses captured dramatic footage of the flight overshooting the runway and struggling to gain altitude.

The footage then shows the Boeing 727 aircraft descending into a field and bursting into flames.

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Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:35:15 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:36:18 AM EDT
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gravity
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:39:03 AM EDT
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I’m guessing it was way more than 600 pounds overweight. Probably a missing zero.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:40:47 AM EDT
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Woulda been underweight after a half hour, sucks to suck
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:41:28 AM EDT
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Aero sucker?
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:41:55 AM EDT
[#6]
Amazing that somebody still flies a -200!
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:42:17 AM EDT
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600lbs didn't matter, but density altitude is a bitch.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:44:31 AM EDT
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AEROSUCRE TAKEOFF AND LOW PASS BOEING 737-200 (BANK ANGLE) COCKPIT VIEW
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:44:32 AM EDT
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I was thinking the same thing.  And who runs a five person crew on a cargo bird?
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:47:39 AM EDT
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I would have thought that taking so long to reach V1 would have resulted in a rejected takeoff.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:50:01 AM EDT
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Idiots
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:50:27 AM EDT
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Or, reduced thrust set to low + bad technique.   600lbs is nominal in a 737.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:50:49 AM EDT
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Eventually you reach a point where still taking off and clipping some trees is probably better than going off the runway and into the houses.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:56:21 AM EDT
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Must be a former cartel pilot.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:57:21 AM EDT
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Eventually you reach a point where still taking off and clipping some trees is probably better than going off the runway and into the houses.
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Isn't the whole point of having a defined V1 to avoid that scenario?
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:57:53 AM EDT
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This
As someone who doesn’t know shit about fuck, you’re telling me 600# is a deal breaker?
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:58:01 AM EDT
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Do straight pipe 737s do derated takeoffs? I’m a Learjet45 and Falcon guy. We just go to the TO detent in the 45.

In the Falcon we just hit the stop. DEEC takes care of the rest. We don’t care about gas in that plane. Pull it back to go downhill.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:01:00 PM EDT
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Takeoffs are optional, landings are inevitable.

Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:01:51 PM EDT
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Looks like they took out some fence.

Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:02:08 PM EDT
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They technically made a safe takeoff and landing.

"Next time lets try 800# overweight!"
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:04:51 PM EDT
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Can't wait for the mouth breathers to blame this on Boeing.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:07:03 PM EDT
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These guys are absolute clowns.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:07:21 PM EDT
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Stephen Stills - Treetop Flyer


Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:09:09 PM EDT
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Damn. Look at the trees sway and all of the debris flying by.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:10:56 PM EDT
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Nolinor has a few as well.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:14:35 PM EDT
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That is an OLD 737
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:18:15 PM EDT
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I was thinking the same thing.  And who runs a five person crew on a cargo bird?
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Probably two pilots, a trainee pilot, a mechanic and a loadmaster. Those kinds of crews are common outside the US (and some US carriers carry loads and mechanics if they are going OCONUS.)
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:19:07 PM EDT
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Do straight pipe 737s do derated takeoffs? I’m a Learjet45 and Falcon guy. We just go to the TO detent in the 45. In the Falcon we just hit the stop.
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Or, reduced thrust set to low + bad technique.   600lbs is nominal in a 737.




Do straight pipe 737s do derated takeoffs? I’m a Learjet45 and Falcon guy. We just go to the TO detent in the 45. In the Falcon we just hit the stop.


Luckily, I have no clue.   We can assume Every takeoff is derated in that old warbird though.  
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:19:20 PM EDT
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Barry Seal flew over weight planes out of Columbia all of the time.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:21:32 PM EDT
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American Made (2017) - Becoming a Drug Plane Scene (1/10) | Movieclips
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:23:07 PM EDT
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I miss the Southwest jets with club seating at the overwing exits.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:25:35 PM EDT
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737

Boeing 737-200 Takeoff run : 6,099 ft

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ%C3%A1n_Olano_Airport
SKPC: 5906 feet.

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Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:26:19 PM EDT
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I miss the Southwest jets with club seating at the overwing exits.
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Luckily, I have no clue.   We can assume Every takeoff is derated in that old warbird though.  



I miss the Southwest jets with club seating at the overwing exits.


The little ones are cute little jets.   Would make a nice corporate rig for the right person.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:27:39 PM EDT
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I think they are retiring their Combi's this year.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:28:29 PM EDT
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Altitude density is, too!
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:30:10 PM EDT
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Does anyone remember the Aerosucre crash from maybe 5 years back? It was posted here.

Almost an exact same scenario except they crashed and died. Barely made it over a fence. Etc.

Looks like maybe they didnt learn a whole lot from the experience.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:30:17 PM EDT
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Do straight pipe 737s do derated takeoffs? I’m a Learjet45 and Falcon guy. We just go to the TO detent in the 45.

In the Falcon we just hit the stop. DEEC takes care of the rest. We don’t care about gas in that plane. Pull it back to go downhill.
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Great Cockpit View! B737-200 Takeoff from Montreal on CLASSIC Boeing Jet! [AirClips]


For the seasoned 737 pilots here, what's going on when the PNF puts the landing gear handle in what looks like a middle position, is it because that the 200 series didn't have main gear doors ?
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:30:32 PM EDT
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Aerosucre isn’t known for its robust safety culture.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:32:10 PM EDT
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Drug cartel jet takes off from a forest road
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:34:34 PM EDT
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Bush Alaska really misses the combi 200's.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:41:11 PM EDT
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This is in cooler air.

Rural Alaska hubs had short runways.
They were not much over 6,000ft till they were extended.
The 200's did very good even with good loads in them.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:42:38 PM EDT
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Can't imagine what it is like living in one of those houses at the end of the runway.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:42:50 PM EDT
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Meh. The plane's really not overloaded unless you almost take out the Taj Mahal.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:44:32 PM EDT
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I doubt if the 600 pounds had anything to do with it.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:47:30 PM EDT
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My buddies parents house is right under the take-off and landing area.

When commercial fishing was heavy the dc-6's would take off (over weight).
House was a two story house and we could almost touch the belly of the six's.

Houses would shake when they went over at all times of the day.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:49:57 PM EDT
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600lbs made it do that? no.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 12:59:18 PM EDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgezyQm4_eo

For the seasoned 737 pilots here, what's going on when the PNF puts the landing gear handle in what looks like a middle position, is it because that the 200 series didn't have main gear doors ?
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Do straight pipe 737s do derated takeoffs? I’m a Learjet45 and Falcon guy. We just go to the TO detent in the 45.

In the Falcon we just hit the stop. DEEC takes care of the rest. We don’t care about gas in that plane. Pull it back to go downhill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgezyQm4_eo

For the seasoned 737 pilots here, what's going on when the PNF puts the landing gear handle in what looks like a middle position, is it because that the 200 series didn't have main gear doors ?


They all had that, until the MAX.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 1:01:50 PM EDT
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I'm guessing they ate the safety margin trying to get to V1 and no longer had runway to bail out of takeoff,
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 1:03:05 PM EDT
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Density Altitude says hold my beer
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 1:05:02 PM EDT
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Thanks, just read up on it. Releases hydraulic pressure on the gear actuator while the mains are locked in place. Makes sense now.
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