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Posted: 2/27/2020 5:30:42 PM EDT
Prove me wrong?

Some folks on this message board were saying AZ is next following the shenanigans in VA. Nope. Not happening in AZ today or anytime soon.

PHOENIX — The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, in a tense public meeting Wednesday morning, voted 4-1 to declare Maricopa as a “Second Amendment Preservation County.”

https://www.abc15.com/maricopa-county-becomes-largest-county-to-approve-second-amendment-sanctuary-measure
Link Posted: 2/27/2020 5:32:46 PM EDT
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After the New Mexico shemale governor signed their hate filled "red flag" law and declared that any sheriff who refuses to  do his duty needed to resign immediately...well AZ is an island of hope in a sea of treason.
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Lol.
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This is the county with by far the largest population center. It's a big deal.
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In fairness AZ only has 15 counties to VA's 95.
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ja ja ja hombre.
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We don’t need “sanctuary counties”:
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What's the AZ castle doctrine like?

I'm pretty sure AZ is on par with ID
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Not yet
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We still have the shitty no gun signs enforced.
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If so, good for y’all.
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Their business their choice, your money your choice.
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Wait, didn't VA legislature just pass a bunch of unconstitutional bills yesterday?
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Lol no.

Signs carry the force of law here, that puts us behind a number of states.
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We don’t need “sanctuary counties”:
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We won’t. We shout down liberals the second they open their filthy commie cocksuckers.
Link Posted: 2/27/2020 5:51:53 PM EDT
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But what about bumpstocks?  Without bumpstocks you have no 2A(according to ARFCOM Never_Trumpers)
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Lol no.

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Private property laws/rules?
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With a population that low it doesn't take many FSA members to cause problems. Best of luck to the both of us.
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I LOVE the VDCL, no homo.
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You have to own a firearm to legally be a WV resident.
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Lol no.

Signs carry the force of law here, that puts us behind a number of states.
Private property laws/rules?
GD doesn't respect property rights, heck some are OK with others poaching.
Link Posted: 2/27/2020 5:53:35 PM EDT
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It's notable here in Arizona because Maricopa county is where the state's most populous city, Phoenix, is located. Stop the rot in the largest city and you stop it in the whole state.
Link Posted: 2/27/2020 5:55:12 PM EDT
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CBase123, please see these links. They can still comes after the guns, the second to the last paragraph that was in the original resolution was taken out, “BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors will not authorize or appropriate government funds, resources, employees, agencies contractors, buildings, detention centers or officers to infringe on the people’s constitutional rights, including the right to keep and bear arms”. And it wasn't a very tense meeting all. fake news see the video.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/Hometown/Maricopa-county-becoming-a-second-amendment-sanctuary-county-/13-641438/

https://www.ar15.com/forums/Hometown/Maricopa-Sanctuary-means-nothing-and-provision-with-actual-meaning-was-struck-before-the-vote/13-641457/
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If anything, signs carrying the force of the law is a very good thing.
Link Posted: 2/27/2020 5:56:11 PM EDT
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Laughing. Out. Loud. Look around, there isn’t a #1 2A state. We are all #2. The government has sealed that deal.
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LOL at your little HOA sized counties.

Maricopa County is a little bigger than New Jersey and has most of the people in the state.  Its not the first county in AZ to make this type of declaration, and I believe its the largest polity of any kind in the country to do this.
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That "one county" has more population than all of Virginia's sanctuaries combined
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This
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With a population that low it doesn't take many FSA members to cause problems. Best of luck to the both of us.
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With a population that low it doesn't take many FSA members to cause problems. Best of luck to the both of us.
Nothing here to attract FSA. It’s a relatively hard life. I love it.
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LOL at your little HOA sized counties.

Maricopa County is a little bigger than New Jersey and has most of the people in the state.  Its not the first county in AZ to make this type of declaration, and I believe its the largest polity of any kind in the country to do this.
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LOL at your little HOA sized counties.

Maricopa County is a little bigger than New Jersey and has most of the people in the state.  Its not the first county in AZ to make this type of declaration, and I believe its the largest polity of any kind in the country to do this.
Contains the #4 largest metro area in the country, so it probably is.
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We won’t. We shout down liberals the second they open their filthy commie cocksuckers.
With a population that low it doesn't take many FSA members to cause problems. Best of luck to the both of us.
Nothing here to attract FSA. It’s a relatively hard life. I love it.
Californians with $$$ then
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Signs, what signs?  
Maybe I need to get my eyes checked
Link Posted: 2/27/2020 6:02:25 PM EDT
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CBase123, please see these links. They can still comes after the guns, the second to the last paragraph that was in the original resolution was taken out, “BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors will not authorize or appropriate government funds, resources, employees, agencies contractors, buildings, detention centers or officers to infringe on the people’s constitutional rights, including the right to keep and bear arms”. And it wasn't a very tense meeting all. fake news see the video.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/Hometown/Maricopa-county-becoming-a-second-amendment-sanctuary-county-/13-641438/

https://www.ar15.com/forums/Hometown/Maricopa-Sanctuary-means-nothing-and-provision-with-actual-meaning-was-struck-before-the-vote/13-641457/
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Certainly I would have liked to see that language remain, and this mostly symbolic, but it is a good sign that the rights of law abiding citizens of my home state are not in not in danger for the foreseeable future.

I love AZ, been here my entire life. Don't want things to take a turn for the worse here ever.
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If they feel the need to declare then there is a bigger problem on the horizon.
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Which NM counties declared before things started to turn south in NM?
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Weak first post
Link Posted: 2/27/2020 6:06:31 PM EDT
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Too bad it is ugly and depressing as hell.

Even Sedona...

Meh.
Link Posted: 2/27/2020 6:09:21 PM EDT
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In our defense, we don’t have that many counties here, Apache and Yavapai counties have the sanctuary status along with Pinal working on it.
Link Posted: 2/27/2020 6:09:29 PM EDT
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Even Sedona...

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Username check out
Link Posted: 2/27/2020 6:09:37 PM EDT
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AZCDL, which is the template for all other CDL's, AZCDL members don't get a snazzy little icon.  don't want one anyway..

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Laughs in Mississippi.
Link Posted: 2/27/2020 6:12:06 PM EDT
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Lol no.

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Unless the sign is not in compliance with the law then it is null and void.

But there is that whole concealed thing...
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Enjoy your tent cities, shit everywhere, and communist rule.
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Enjoy your tent cities, shit everywhere, and communist rule.
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Enjoy your tent cities, shit everywhere, and communist rule.
Needles. Don’t forget needles.
Link Posted: 2/27/2020 6:15:36 PM EDT
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We are all on the same side.
Link Posted: 2/27/2020 6:20:35 PM EDT
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WV's is pretty good.

No firearms permit required.
Castle doctrine
Stand your ground
Constitutional carry over 21
Permit carry over 18 (no permit required for military members)
Open carry for anyone
Guns in bars and restaurants, yes.
Guns in banks, yes.
Guns on school grounds, yes.
Carry in vehicle, yes.
All state permits honored.
No duty to inform
No guns signs do not have force of law
Machineguns legal
SBRS legal
Silencers legal
No prohibition on firearms in vehicles in parking lots
Shall issue
No minimum hours on CCW training
CCW in lieu of background check for gun purchases
No fingerprints required for CCW
State park carry OK
National forest carry OK
Rest area carry OK
Carry while hunting OK
No magazine or ammunition restrictions
No purchase restrictions
No red flag law
No gun registration
Tax credit of $50 for a concealed carry training
No background check required for private sales.
Link Posted: 2/27/2020 6:24:24 PM EDT
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GD doesn't respect property rights, heck some are OK with others poaching.
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Lol no.

Signs carry the force of law here, that puts us behind a number of states.
Private property laws/rules?
GD doesn't respect property rights, heck some are OK with others poaching.
So if I put up a no red socks sign and someone comes in with red socks they should go to jail? Its not about property rights it's about making the carrying of normal everyday stuff like a gun a legal minefield.

If you ask me to leave your property open to the public for any reason I will. If your property is not open to the public I wont enter it.
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I think Idaho is the best, we can conceal carry with no permit.
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Unlike California. Which is like the hottest girl in the world.
And she has herpes.
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