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So letting a teenage kid have access to firearms is grounds for jail time, or being given a firearm as a gift is a jailable offense?  Because the kid was accused of making a threatening internet post that was not proven, and the kid denied and no charges were filed?  Because it sounds like you all think someone should lose their 2A and parental rights if they are even accused of something without any proof or due process.

Some of you all are using so much hindsight your heads have gone up your asses


Its amazing how even arfcom is right on board with the Reddit liberal trash when it comes to stuff like this.  Now it's not bad enough that the kids do it, burn their parents too.   This is what the anti's are going to use now.  It's going to become SOP that anyone connected to a mass shooter is going to become the scapegoat even if they had no control or no way of knowing or stopping it.  It'll be used as another way to ban and take away guns and it will slide further from there.    And apparently plenty of people even here are just fine with it

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Again, is that discord account confirmed to be colt?

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That's possible as well.  Hopefully they will definitively tie him to that account, but as of right now that doesn't appear to have happened.

It is with great sadness that we share a student sustained a gunshot wound in an altercation at Joppatowne High School today. Sheriff Gahler has shared the following information:

   A shooting did take place in Joppatowne High School today, Friday, September 6, 2024.
   1 suspect and 1 victim were involved in the incident.
   The Principal and SRO were in the school. They did not hear the shot, but heard commotion and responded.
   The shooting took place in a 1st floor men's bathroom.
   After the initial shooting, the suspect left the bathroom and the school.
   Other individuals in the school brought the victim into the hallway where HCPS nurses immediately tended to the victim.
   Sheriff Gahler shared that within 2 minutes HCSO was on scene and additional partners arrived with over 100 more responders.
   The victim was airlifted to a trauma center.
   The victim is a 15 year old male, in serious condition according to Sheriff Gahler's latest update.
   The suspect in the case was apprehended within minutes near neighboring houses.
   The suspect is a 16 year old male and today was his first day reporting to school this year.
   Sheriff Gahler shared that while current legislation prevents the Harford County Sheriff's Office from questioning the suspect, the State's Attorney has confirmed the suspect will be charged in the shooting.
   The investigation is ongoing, so details will be limited.
   The weapon has not been recovered, and no details being shared about type of weapon at this time.

Please follow the Harford County Sheriff's Office Facebook page for investigation updates. We will continue to post updates in the Red Alert on hcps.org.

Thank you,

Jillian Lader

Manager of Communications

Harford County Public Schools

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Anti-trans?
https://i.imgur.com/3IGALZI.jpeg

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People see what they want to see.

“I bet the shooter was a tranny. It’s always a tranny”
“Long hair! I was right!”

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Why are children, teens, etc.  deciding that killing is a solution in particular shooting others at a school?

Lanza was obsessed with school shootings.  So were others.  All of them seem to be social rejects in many cases due to their own behaviors but society in general's attitude towards the future.

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To be fair, local news here was reporting students were saying he was Trans yesterday. That is very much a red herring all the way around but if true and part of his motivation tells a lot and was the reason for the number of schools and bullying. He was another ticking timebomb and his Dad enabled the carnage.

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Or they didn’t have the technical expertise to prove it in court so they didn’t file charges, warned the dad and hoped he would act in a responsible manner.

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The one link someone posted, said the investigation of the Discord account revealed that it had been accessed from various cities in GA, as well as NY. The kid claimed that he had canceled/was canceling the account due to it being hacked.

Pretty sure that this was the reason they decided they didn’t have PC to take action; the possibility that the post was made by someone who’d hacked the account.

Of course, investigation NOW, turns up evidence that the kid was obsessed with school shootings, and other school shooters.

At the time of the interview, though, they lacked the ability to tie him to the Discord posts.

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Evidence of what?  Do we know the exact wording/nature of what was communicated over Discord?  And how does that map to a specific statute?

Someone can say/post really disturbing stuff that would legitimately lead others to believe that he's capable of doing something terrible ... Discord could have been concerned about it, determined it violated their terms of service, but it doesn't necessarily run afoul of criminal statute.

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So is the whole "acceptance of Trans individual" a red herring here is a question I have. Before everyone latches onto "see Trans are nutters" is it possible this kid was using this as some screen, maybe he just wanted to kill out kids because they called him a name? This is the first time I've seen 'evidence' that Trans is potentially a motive which all of us know is certainly a huge Red Flag.

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Link to local news showing students saying that?

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Per Fed law, posting terroristic threats is a felony, the elements of the crime to be met are, the fact that he threatened to shoot up a school(mass murder) and that someone was terrorized by that communication--in this case the several tipsters.  GA law holds posting threats to harm, murder, which includes shooting up a school to be a felony in itself.  The FBI and GA had the IP and the posts themselves and were sufficiently concerned to make the visit and forward to the school.  Humor is not a sufficient defense to the crime of making terroristic threats, nor is pleading ignorance, lack of maturity or any other similar BS.

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I've been reading the shooter is a tranny. True or BS?

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Where was the irresponsibility before 2 days ago?  Why do are you unable to look at this from any other view other than hindsight?  

There was no proof the kid actually made the threat that was suggested.  The kid had a batshit crazy mom who was so bad she lost custody.  

The dad was a working class single parent who by everything I've seen was trying his best to be a good parent.   Did you see his statements in the interview above?

The dad was trying to get the kid into hunting and shooting, a fact that people on this site should approve and appreciate.

I have yet to see any evidence that the dad was the terrible human being who everyone is saying he is.  It's so easy to judge with the benefit of hindsight.

Have an ounce of perspective and think logically about the facts.  If there is more evidence that shows this guy was criminally irresponsible WITHOUT the benefit of hindsight, I will change my view.  As it is now it looks like an utter travesty.  He already had a difficult life trying to raise his kid, and now it looks like he's got life in prison for trying to get his kid into guns...

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only thing I've seen that mentions him being trans is a Instagram profile screen shot. Only vaguely looks like the kid in the court hearing video from this morning.

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Absolutely flabbergasted and astounded that the father would ever actually admit that he bought the gun 'for the son'. In this case, that's tantamount to asking to go to jail.

Without that admission by him it couldn't be proven and the framing of the case would be 'he took my gun without permission' which would look much better for the father's defense.

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Georgia school shooter's father breaks down in court - as gunman learns if he'll face death penalty and family's dark past is revealed



The father of Georgia school shooter Colt Gray sobbed and rocked back and forth during his first appearance at Barrow County Superior Court on Friday.

Colin Gray's hearing took place right after his 14-year-old son Colt learned that, as a minor, he won't face the death penalty for killing four people at Apalachee High School in Winder, outside Atlanta, on Wednesday.

The teen appeared in person in shackles, dressed in a green t-shirt and grey sweat pants. He kept his head down, with his hair covering his face, and spoke softly only to Judge Mingledorff, replying 'yes sir' when asked to confirm his name.

Meanwhile his  father, Colin Gray, 54, cried as he appeared shortly after his son in the same courtroom, charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two of second degree murder and eight of cruelty to children.

Colin Gray shuffled in wearing a prison-issued striped shirt and tracksuit, in shackles like his son. He stated his name in a croaky voice, confirming his age, and that he was able to read and write.




He told the court he completed education up until 11th Grade GED, nodding along to proceedings as they took place.

The distraught father began rocking after Judge Mingledorff told him the maximum sentences that he could receive, and is expected to appear in court on December 4.

Victims' family members stared at him throughout the hearing while he kept his head down and avoided eye contact with anyone but the judge.

Dozens of emotional family members packed the courtroom for both Grays first appearances, with some visibly crying before the hearing even began. Some wore sunglasses to cover their faces, and were supported by detectives in the court room.

Family members for both father and son did not appear to be supporting them in the courtroom.

Judge Mingledorff advised the elder Gray that he could face up to 30 years in prison for each felony murder count, 10 years for each involuntary manslaughter charges and cruelty to children   the maximum totaling 180 years.



Colt Gray's attorney did not request bond for the teenager.

The teen looked down at his feet as he entered the court, staring straight at the judge as he spoke during the short 8-minute hearing.

Judge Mingledorff brought Gray back in to correct a statement he made, telling him: 'I wanted to make it clear to you that the penalty does not include death. It includes life without the possibility of parole or with the possibility of parole.'

A 2005 Supreme Court decision forbids the execution of offenders who were under the age of 18 when their crimes were committed.

The teen's father was charged Thursday in connection with the shooting, including with counts of involuntary manslaughter and second-degree murder, Georgia Bureau of Investigation Director Chris Hosey.

'His charges are directly connected with the actions of his son and allowing him to possess a weapon,' Hosey said.



Colt Gray was arrested on Wednesday minutes after authorities say he opened fire on students and teachers, killing four. Colt reportedly told police 'I did it' when read his Miranda rights.

Public records show that Gray's mother, Marcee Gray, has a criminal record dating back to 2007 and spent time in jail as recently as this past April and was banned from contacting father Colin without a third party intermediary.

Marcee, 43, has a record across four Georgia counties and includes drug use, domestic violence and property damage, as well as civil claims of fraud.

The family home was raided on Wednesday afternoon, with FBI investigators seizing firearms and evidence.

Neighbors saw Colin return to the family home on Wednesday evening, though it is unclear if he handed himself into authorities.

A neighbor told DailyMail.com that they were 'terrified' following the new charges, adding that the family had 'kept themselves to themselves' and not integrated with the community in their two years at the property.

The teen denied threatening to carry out a school shooting when authorities interviewed him last year about a menacing post on social media, according to a sheriff's report obtained Thursday.

Conflicting evidence on the post's origin left investigators unable to arrest anyone, the report said. Jackson County Sheriff Janis Mangum said she reviewed the report from May 2023 and found nothing that would have justified bringing charges at the time.




The teen was interviewed after the sheriff received a tip from the FBI that Gray, then 13, 'had possibly threatened to shoot up a middle school tomorrow.' The threat was made on Discord, a social media platform popular with video gamers, according to the sheriff's office incident report.

The FBI's tip pointed to a Discord account associated with an email address linked to Colt Gray, the report said. But the boy said 'he would never say such a thing, even in a joking manner,' according to the investigator's report.

The interview transcript quotes the teen as saying: 'I promise I would never say something where ...' with the rest of that denial listed as inaudible.

The investigator wrote that no arrests were made because of 'inconsistent information' on the Discord account, which had profile information in Russian and a digital evidence trail indicating it had been accessed in different Georgia cities as well as Buffalo, New York.


Jackson County Sheriff Janis Mangum said she reviewed the report from May 2023 and found nothing that would have justified bringing charges at the time.

'We did not drop the ball at all on this,' Mangum told The Associated Press in an interview. 'We did all we could do with what we had at the time.'

The Discord account had a user name written in Russian, and the translation of the letters spelled out the name Lanza, referencing Adam Lanza, the perpetrator of the Sandy Hook Elementary school tragedy, officers said.

Gray denied he was the author of the threats, telling police he'd shut down his Discord after being repeatedly hacked. He expressed concerns that someone would make those accusations about him.

'He knows the seriousness of weapons and what they can do, and how to use them and not use them,' the father, Colin Gray, said according to a transcript obtained from the sheriff's office.

The sheriff's investigators closed the case after being unable to substantiate that either Gray was connected to the Discord account, and did not find grounds to seek the needed court order to confiscate the family's guns, according to police reports released by the sheriff's office on Thursday.

The boy reportedly had an obsession with other infamous school shooters such as Parkland, Florida killer Nikolas Cruz.


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I live in Barrow County, and we know kids that go to that school, so this is very much a front and center topic in our household.  I don't have a minute-by-minute rundown of LEO response to the shooting, but I do have some background info for this group.  Several months ago the county ran a full-blown active shooter drill at one of our local schools during a teacher work day.  I think the drill and the roving school resource officers on duty that day are the reason this event was shut down as fast as it was.  We only perform as high as the lowest level of our training.  I also have to give a very loud shoutout to the county fire department.  They had participated in the drill, and were on scene at the shooting at the same time the LEOs arrived.  Not in follow-up mode.  As very first responders.  Our youngest is a firefighter in Virginia, and I could easily imagine him acting in the same way - a topic I have intentionally not broached with my wife.

Could they have had SROs at every school?  Possibly, but the threat this particular kid posed was apparently not passed to Barrow people from either the county he lived in when he first talked about school shootings or by the FBI.  No, I don't want the FBI to track the movement of every 14 year old.  We have too much Big Brother as it is.  I do think though that within a given state (or likely relocation area) it's reasonable to do a quick records check on kids moving in from a nearby school district.