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Posted: 9/13/2024 1:51:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For a kid getting pressed by cops, yeah probably. Even adults can get nervous around cops. I wouldn't really necessarily take it as a sign of guilt. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The boy constantly rocked side to side. Does that seem like normal behavior? For a kid getting pressed by cops, yeah probably. Even adults can get nervous around cops. I wouldn't really necessarily take it as a sign of guilt. I wasn't so much taking it as a sign of guilt, as I was thinking it odd behavior; something out of the norm that might indicate that the boy has something mentally or emotionally wrong with him. That was kind of why I asked - I've not seen 14-year-olds interviewed by cops before, nor spent any time around young teens under stress, so I don't know what the common behaviors are. |
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Posted: 9/13/2024 1:55:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same in Seminole county FL. Not a good time to be talking shit on the internet. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted:Add another one. Our small county closed school today due to a 14 year old threat on Tic Toc. Allegedly. 2 arrested in my area yesterday, 13 and 11 yo. The whole county was in a panic, with parents keeping kids home Thursday, including my wife. Seeing them go down in TX too, guessing they're taking these seriously for the remainder of election season at least. |
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Posted: 9/13/2024 2:35:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wasn't so much taking it as a sign of guilt, as I was thinking it odd behavior; something out of the norm that might indicate that the boy has something mentally or emotionally wrong with him. That was kind of why I asked - I've not seen 14-year-olds interviewed by cops before, nor spent any time around young teens under stress, so I don't know what the common behaviors are. Well the dad was rocking back & forth during his pretrial hearing. |
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Posted: 9/13/2024 2:56:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2 arrested in my area yesterday, 13 and 11 yo. The whole county was in a panic, with parents keeping kids home Thursday, including my wife.2 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Add another one. Our small county closed school today due to a 14 year old threat on Tic Toc. Allegedly. 2 arrested in my area yesterday, 13 and 11 yo. The whole county was in a panic, with parents keeping kids home Thursday, including my wife.2 |
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Posted: 9/13/2024 3:08:02 PM EST
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Radio says some kid here is getting a disorderly conduct charge for making threats.
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Posted: 9/13/2024 3:25:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The boy constantly rocked side to side. Does that seem like normal behavior? I do that. Even when I'm not nervous, such as standing in line or in church. I realize that doesn't exactly answer the question. 
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Posted: 9/13/2024 5:08:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if the FBI stumbled upon these threats while operating in a gray area and couldn't disclose exactly how they found the posts. almost zero chance of that. they typically run off of tips for this stuff. |
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Posted: 9/13/2024 6:59:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2 in my area as well. School closed for 2 days due to threats. Seems to be everywhere now. They'll stop closing the schools and start treating these like the typical hoax bomb threat kids used to call in to try to get out of going to class. Unless there is some credibility to the threat there is zero reason for the school to be closed and doing so is an over-reaction by school staff. |
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Posted: 9/13/2024 7:44:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They'll stop closing the schools and start treating these like the typical hoax bomb threat kids used to call in to try to get out of going to class. Unless there is some credibility to the threat there is zero reason for the school to be closed and doing so is an over-reaction by school staff. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 2 in my area as well. School closed for 2 days due to threats. Seems to be everywhere now. They'll stop closing the schools and start treating these like the typical hoax bomb threat kids used to call in to try to get out of going to class. Unless there is some credibility to the threat there is zero reason for the school to be closed and doing so is an over-reaction by school staff. Catch-22 situation. Keep closing schools; people go, “Seriously? WTF. It’s all just a bunch of BS. Inconveniencing everyone”. DON’T close the school for one of these and some nutter actually shoots up the school and everyone goes, “They dropped the ball on this! Incompetence! How could they ignore the warnings?!!!” |
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Posted: 9/13/2024 7:46:20 PM EST
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This mass shooting and gun control talk fell out of the news like a fart in the wind.
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Posted: 9/13/2024 7:46:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Catch-22 situation. Keep closing schools; people go, “Seriously? WTF. It’s all just a bunch of BS. Inconveniencing everyone”. DON’T close the school for one of these and some nutter actually shoots up the school and everyone goes, “They dropped the ball on this! Incompetence! How could they ignore the warnings?!!!” Expel the kids from school. |
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Posted: 9/13/2024 8:11:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Expel the kids from school. thats lmost not a thing anymore. every snowflake is special and must be catered too |
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Posted: 9/13/2024 9:30:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Catch-22 situation. Keep closing schools; people go, “Seriously? WTF. It’s all just a bunch of BS. Inconveniencing everyone”. DON’T close the school for one of these and some nutter actually shoots up the school and everyone goes, “They dropped the ball on this! Incompetence! How could they ignore the warnings?!!!” It isnt a catch-22. It is taking an actual look at what is being said and deeming it credible or not. It is what is done on a consistent basis in countless occupation across the globe on a minute-by-minute basis. Closing a school and keeping thousands of kids at home isnt doing anything productive. It simply lets pranksters know they can get out of school by calling in some BS. Regardless of what is or isnt done people are going to bitch. Youa re seeing this rash of prank calls right now because the callers see the gross over-reaction being taken by schools....that is the only reason it is happening. |
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Posted: 9/13/2024 10:24:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It isnt a catch-22. It is taking an actual look at what is being said and deeming it credible or not. It is what is done on a consistent basis in countless occupation across the globe on a minute-by-minute basis. Closing a school and keeping thousands of kids at home isnt doing anything productive. It simply lets pranksters know they can get out of school by calling in some BS. Regardless of what is or isnt done people are going to bitch. Youa re seeing this rash of prank calls right now because the callers see the gross over-reaction being taken by schools....that is the only reason it is happening. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Catch-22 situation. Keep closing schools; people go, “Seriously? WTF. It’s all just a bunch of BS. Inconveniencing everyone”. DON’T close the school for one of these and some nutter actually shoots up the school and everyone goes, “They dropped the ball on this! Incompetence! How could they ignore the warnings?!!!” It isnt a catch-22. It is taking an actual look at what is being said and deeming it credible or not. It is what is done on a consistent basis in countless occupation across the globe on a minute-by-minute basis. Closing a school and keeping thousands of kids at home isnt doing anything productive. It simply lets pranksters know they can get out of school by calling in some BS. Regardless of what is or isnt done people are going to bitch. Youa re seeing this rash of prank calls right now because the callers see the gross over-reaction being taken by schools....that is the only reason it is happening. Simply make it clear that terroristic threats carry serious consequences. When the news carries the stories of a few stupid little morons screwing up their lives and futures, others will reconsider.Or just let the stupid ones continue fucking themselves over. Either way works for me. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 9:47:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It isnt a catch-22. It is taking an actual look at what is being said and deeming it credible or not. It is what is done on a consistent basis in countless occupation across the globe on a minute-by-minute basis. Closing a school and keeping thousands of kids at home isnt doing anything productive. It simply lets pranksters know they can get out of school by calling in some BS. Regardless of what is or isnt done people are going to bitch. Youa re seeing this rash of prank calls right now because the callers see the gross over-reaction being taken by schools....that is the only reason it is happening. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Catch-22 situation. Keep closing schools; people go, “Seriously? WTF. It’s all just a bunch of BS. Inconveniencing everyone”. DON’T close the school for one of these and some nutter actually shoots up the school and everyone goes, “They dropped the ball on this! Incompetence! How could they ignore the warnings?!!!” It isnt a catch-22. It is taking an actual look at what is being said and deeming it credible or not. It is what is done on a consistent basis in countless occupation across the globe on a minute-by-minute basis. Closing a school and keeping thousands of kids at home isnt doing anything productive. It simply lets pranksters know they can get out of school by calling in some BS. Regardless of what is or isnt done people are going to bitch. Youa re seeing this rash of prank calls right now because the callers see the gross over-reaction being taken by schools....that is the only reason it is happening. The beauty of it is that it hits the school's where it counts... the wallet. Here, school's receive funding per child, per day in attendance. Hopefully we have enough pranks that keep enough kids out of school, and the school's are forced to address the issue and secure the buildings. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 10:04:50 AM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The beauty of it is that it hits the school's where it counts... the wallet. Here, school's receive funding per child, per day in attendance. Hopefully we have enough pranks that keep enough kids out of school, and the school's are forced to address the issue and secure the buildings. What does "securing the buildings" look like to you? |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 10:06:44 AM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The beauty of it is that it hits the school's where it counts... the wallet. Here, school's receive funding per child, per day in attendance. Hopefully we have enough pranks that keep enough kids out of school, and the school's are forced to address the issue and secure the buildings. That’s addressing the symptom. I’d prefer to address the issue. Identify these defective children, and deny them the opportunity to carry out their threats. Fuck around, and find out. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 10:34:29 AM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The beauty of it is that it hits the school's where it counts... the wallet. Here, school's receive funding per child, per day in attendance. Hopefully we have enough pranks that keep enough kids out of school, and the school's are forced to address the issue and secure the buildings. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 11:13:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What does "securing the buildings" look like to you? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The beauty of it is that it hits the school's where it counts... the wallet. Here, school's receive funding per child, per day in attendance. Hopefully we have enough pranks that keep enough kids out of school, and the school's are forced to address the issue and secure the buildings. What does "securing the buildings" look like to you? Controlled access points, strict protocols around securing access points (i.e. teacher gets fired for propping doors open,) and armed personnel (preferably staff, but at a minimum LE.) |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 11:15:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s addressing the symptom. I’d prefer to address the issue. Identify these defective children, and deny them the opportunity to carry out their threats. Fuck around, and find out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The beauty of it is that it hits the school's where it counts... the wallet. Here, school's receive funding per child, per day in attendance. Hopefully we have enough pranks that keep enough kids out of school, and the school's are forced to address the issue and secure the buildings. That’s addressing the symptom. I’d prefer to address the issue. Identify these defective children, and deny them the opportunity to carry out their threats. Fuck around, and find out. Unfortunately, it usually takes a financial incentive for action to be taken. I agree the biggest problem is the lack of accountability in the classroom. I don't understand how we got to this point as a society. Problem kids need to be removed from the main classrooms. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 11:18:16 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Poor incentive. We need to start paying schools to kick kids out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The beauty of it is that it hits the school's where it counts... the wallet. Here, school's receive funding per child, per day in attendance. Hopefully we have enough pranks that keep enough kids out of school, and the school's are forced to address the issue and secure the buildings. That's not sustainable. Too many schools in too many cities would run out of kids. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 12:23:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not sustainable. Too many schools in too many cities would run out of kids. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The beauty of it is that it hits the school's where it counts... the wallet. Here, school's receive funding per child, per day in attendance. Hopefully we have enough pranks that keep enough kids out of school, and the school's are forced to address the issue and secure the buildings. That's not sustainable. Too many schools in too many cities would run out of kids. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 1:15:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s addressing the symptom. I’d prefer to address the issue. Identify these defective children, and deny them the opportunity to carry out their threats. Fuck around, and find out. Except that expulsion doesn't stop the threat. The Parkland shooter - barred from campus and placed in an Alternative Program. Entered campus and killed 17. Sandy Hook, Nashville, Uvalde - shooters weren't even students there. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 1:20:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except that expulsion doesn't stop the threat. The Parkland shooter - barred from campus and placed in an Alternative Program. Entered campus and killed 17. Sandy Hook, Nashville, Uvalde - shooters weren't even students there. You cannot ever remove a threat completely. But removing a kid from school who vocalizes an intent or desire to commit mass murder is a starting point. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 1:31:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: thats lmost not a thing anymore. every snowflake is special and must be catered too Some of these violent students have do disabilities which attach additional layers of due process in order to remove them from the regular school environment, but it can be done. We need school administrators who are willing to do the work to move students out to alternative placements and make the referrals to law enforcement and mental health services when needed. School administration needs to be trained and accountable for better management of these situations as well. In Oxford, the damn dean of students returned the weapon to the kid, because he *failed* to check the kid's book bag before returning it to him. Furthermore, the parents were allowed to leave the student at school after administration called them in to conference about threatening drawings (among other signs). Who in the hell lets that happen? Either they take him or LE drops him off. Better administration, hardened schools, trained staff, more LE presence, student culture where reported safety concerns are addressed, additional interventions for students, accountability for parents... won't stop all of these incidents, but that would be a good start. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 1:43:14 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This mass shooting and gun control talk fell out of the news like a fart in the wind. They realized there was little traction on the narrative. The right has developed it's own set of talking points when it comes to this stuff. It can easily shout down the gun control talk now. Especially once it's proven the system dropped the ball. |
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Posted: 9/20/2024 5:18:59 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What does "securing the buildings" look like to you? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The beauty of it is that it hits the school's where it counts... the wallet. Here, school's receive funding per child, per day in attendance. Hopefully we have enough pranks that keep enough kids out of school, and the school's are forced to address the issue and secure the buildings. What does "securing the buildings" look like to you? ETA: school has all the bells and whistles. Secured doors, tightly controlled access, fences that weren't there before. They even hired a retired army officer as head of security. |
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Posted: 9/21/2024 8:24:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: thats lmost not a thing anymore. every snowflake is special and must be catered too Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Expel the kids from school. thats lmost not a thing anymore. every snowflake is special and must be catered too Removing them from the school system can happen but then the parents send them to another school district or private school. One of my daughters got to deal with a rather disturbed kid who was expelled but then his parents went to a charity and got money to send their son to a private Catholic school. |
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