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Link Posted: 9/9/2019 2:50:22 AM EDT
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Decentralize DC? Winning!
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 4:38:27 AM EDT
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They live in D.C. and can't find another job? Really?
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Link Posted: 9/9/2019 6:41:53 AM EDT
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KSU, OSU, ISU and TAMU will gladly fill the void with Ag Specialists.
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USDA doesn't employ ag specialists, DHS does. Ag specialists are already understaffed by 30% to 50% depending on staffing model applied. Couple that with DHS cant manage to hire new hires with required degrees for a large number of reasons, and while attrition is running maybe 5% yearly(which is 100 bodies) they only manage to hire 80. Been that way for YEARS(hence the massive shortfall of bodies). Add in that 33k yearly for a job that requires a 4 year degree and suddenly a job that literally pays  30% less than average entry level for biology degree holders (50K) pay isn't so attractive.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 7:34:04 AM EDT
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Whining from the same commie faggots who want to disband ICE....

Link Posted: 9/9/2019 7:39:20 AM EDT
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lol ZERO pity for whiny ass entitled government civilian employees.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 7:44:25 AM EDT
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I don’t have a problem with the move really, but suggesting USDA employees are equivalent to “traitors” is just asinine
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A twenty plus year .gov employee that shills for climate change?   Wrong that’s a damn traitor.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 7:56:14 AM EDT
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I currently am dealing with two .gov departments - the VA and USCIS.

EVERY single person is a hostile, worthless turd incapable of the most simple of tasks.

The stonewalling and red tape would drive even the most level headed of individuals to lash out. They respond to you in scripts they have written, and seems they aren't fully aware of what's going on.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 8:06:12 AM EDT
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ZFG
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 8:06:12 AM EDT
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Transgenders constitute 0.6% of the US population.

How is it that they merit what seems to be over half of the "news stories" being put out by the propaganda bureaus?
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Overton window. Inching toward normalizing pedophilia (interesting—autocorrect didn’t offer pedophilia as a suggestion while I was typing it out. Maybe Apple doesn’t want us discussing it.).

Anyway, a lot of large companies are moving divisions to different locations these days. I’ve seen two separate instances of them doing wholesale layoffs with no rehire and no internal transfer.

I’m sure it’s because they don’t want to pay relo costs. Fucking over long term employees to save a buck.

US corporate culture sucks. They wonder why there’s no employee loyalty.

TC
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 8:11:38 AM EDT
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She worked for 28 years for the department of agriculture and didn’t save any money?
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 8:30:30 AM EDT
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Should be some GS-13 and higher openings coming up on USAJOBS.COM
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 8:34:45 AM EDT
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On the face of it I don't care if they stay or if they go but the problem is at the state level with the ones that are forced to leave or stay, even if it's just for a few months before they go somewhere else.

Most of those employees live in NoVA or suburban MD so if they were not already predisposed  to vote dem they damn sure have a good reason to now. Virginia damn sure did not need anymore peeps voting dem come this November.  

Thinking on it a bit I really don't see going "where the food is" as much of a argument given that the USDA already has offices "where the food is". Seems like huge boondoggle/pork project to me.

“After months of advocating to Secretary Perdue that NIFA and ERS ought to be relocated to the Kansas City area, I’m thrilled that USDA has selected Kansas City to house these critical research agencies,” Sen. Moran (R-KS) said.

Never mind the all those new jobs the two KS Senators are harping about will be done by people that don't want to be there and will vote dem just out of spite when they get there. So what it amounts to is Virginia gets fucked first this November then KS afterwards.....Careful what you wish for because transplants are never good for a state.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 8:40:29 AM EDT
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Two thirds quit.

New jobs for the folks of KC. Nice.
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Yes if 2/3s quit KC dodged a bullet.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 8:48:28 AM EDT
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USDA doesn't employ ag specialists, DHS does. Ag specialists are already understaffed by 30% to 50% depending on staffing model applied. Couple that with DHS cant manage to hire new hires with required degrees for a large number of reasons, and while attrition is running maybe 5% yearly(which is 100 bodies) they only manage to hire 80. Been that way for YEARS(hence the massive shortfall of bodies). Add in that 33k yearly for a job that requires a 4 year degree and suddenly a job that literally pays  30% less than average entry level for biology degree holders (50K) pay isn't so attractive.
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please explain DHS role in Ag?
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 8:50:26 AM EDT
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USDA doesn't employ ag specialists, DHS does. Ag specialists are already understaffed by 30% to 50% depending on staffing model applied. Couple that with DHS cant manage to hire new hires with required degrees for a large number of reasons, and while attrition is running maybe 5% yearly(which is 100 bodies) they only manage to hire 80. Been that way for YEARS(hence the massive shortfall of bodies). Add in that 33k yearly for a job that requires a 4 year degree and suddenly a job that literally pays  30% less than average entry level for biology degree holders (50K) pay isn't so attractive.
please explain DHS role in Ag?
Agriculture Specialist. Providing a critical role in the Department of Homeland Security, CBP agriculture specialists possess specialized skill sets they use to prevent the introduction of harmful exotic plant pests and foreign animal diseases, and potential ag/bio-terrorism into the United States.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 8:53:23 AM EDT
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Johnson did not want to quit her job. In addition to spearheading a climate change research program, she spent her days helping forest scientists find funding.

But Kansas City was never an option. It meant moving far from her daughter, who recently gave birth to Johnson’s first grandchild. And she worried the Midwest might be less-than-welcoming to a 62-year-old transgender woman.

Johnson physically transitioned from male to female about three years ago, the latest challenge in what has been the most difficult decade of her life — during which Johnson joined “three clubs I don’t wish upon anyone: lost a spouse, lost a child and I’m trans.”

Her wife, Jane, died of breast cancer 11 years ago.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:05:05 AM EDT
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That's just it.  These folks would have priority placement in a job they are qualified for.  The hiring manager has to justify why the person can not do the job otherwise they get it.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:06:24 AM EDT
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Johnson did not want to quit her job. In addition to spearheading a climate change research program, she spent her days helping forest scientists find funding.

But Kansas City was never an option. It meant moving far from her daughter, who recently gave birth to Johnson’s first grandchild. And she worried the Midwest might be less-than-welcoming to a 62-year-old transgender woman.

Johnson physically transitioned from male to female about three years ago, the latest challenge in what has been the most difficult decade of her life — during which Johnson joined “three clubs I don’t wish upon anyone: lost a spouse, lost a child and I’m trans.”

Her wife, Jane, died of breast cancer 11 years ago.
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It's a whole lotta bullshit rolled into one near satirical biography.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:11:11 AM EDT
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That was the most hilarious article I have ever read.  It touches all the bases dead kid, new grandchildren, transgender person.  I am a federal employee and if my job was to DC I’d quit, and wouldn’t cry about it.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:11:13 AM EDT
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lol

These moves will purge more leftist swamp-dwellers than any sort of scorched earth firing plan would.

AND, they'll do it willingly and quickly by quitting or retiring.

Winning!
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:14:10 AM EDT
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Of antibiotics.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:16:47 AM EDT
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There is no way the percentage is that high.
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They might be counting the kinder gardeners the public schools have forced into it.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:20:17 AM EDT
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Saving 300 million bucks. While draining the swamp. Win/win
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:20:53 AM EDT
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Oh well, plenty of folks will be willing to take their place.  Also, this will separate the wheat from the chaff as the older, more traditional, bureaucrats are replaced by younger, more dedicated, people who want to work and serve.  Unfortunately, we will lose much richness and vibrancy...
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:21:46 AM EDT
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Once you bureaucrats quit your over paid govt “jobs” in DC feel free to move back to where you came from. Thanks, from actual Virginians.

Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:22:09 AM EDT
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These articles never have a way to leave a comment either I wonder why
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:24:42 AM EDT
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Once you bureaucrats quit your over paid govt “jobs” in DC feel free to move back to where you came from. Thanks, from actual Virginians.

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Trouble is none of them will go anywhere (or stay for that matter) till after November.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:25:58 AM EDT
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If I were stuck working in DC/NoVA and heard that news I'd ecstatic!
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:28:34 AM EDT
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Funny the media almost always runs sobs stories about government jobs.

Private businesses relocate, downsize, and go bankrupt all the time.
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Actually, a lot of .gov agencies have relocated and downsized as well.

I remember when they shut down the Navy Annex and moved a big chunk of HQMC down to Quantico how the folks who lived in DC wailed and beat their breasts over having to make the move.  They were sure they were gonna be met by burning crosses on every street corner and the Klan would be riding by their houses every night, "Lawsy me, da harrah, da harrah!!!"  What they found was lower taxes, lower prices, better standards of living, better schools, less crime (for awhile anyways).  It was even better for the Navy-side folks who relocated to Millington!
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:29:32 AM EDT
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Oh well, plenty of folks will be willing to take their place.  Also, this will separate the wheat from the chaff as the older, more traditional, bureaucrats are replaced by younger, more dedicated, people who want to work and serve. Unfortunately, we will lose much richness and vibrancy...
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In this kind of move, the very worst employees are the ones who will take the relocation. They don't have any other options, and they can sleep in their cubicles as easily in KC as in DC.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:29:36 AM EDT
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Transgenders constitute 0.6% of the US population.

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I would have though more like 0.06%.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:31:30 AM EDT
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Do you really buy that number, uncritically?

The census explanation seems to make sense.

Not that Trump isn't growing the federal government (at least the budget), but it just seems like you're nevertrumping

Anyways, this seems like a good move, decentralizing the feds.
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Trump added 34,000 government jobs last month.

As for the workers, life is hard...deal with it.
Do you really buy that number, uncritically?

The census explanation seems to make sense.

Not that Trump isn't growing the federal government (at least the budget), but it just seems like you're nevertrumping

Anyways, this seems like a good move, decentralizing the feds.
The number is the official reported number and the most accurate number available even if it was highly fudged.  The census workers made up 25,000 of the 34,000 jobs. Even though they are temporary they are still government employees and government created jobs.

A 150,000 job increase is what was expected.  The number came in at only 130,000.  If you take away the 25,000 temporary worker jobs that means the jobs created was actually 105,000 compared to the expected 150,000.  Which points to Trump's economy being weaker than he claims.  That isn't NeverTrumping, those are just a discussion on the numbers the government released.  A lot of negative economic indicators appeared in August.  I hope they are just a glitch in the numbers due to restructuring and September is back to better than expected numbers.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:32:20 AM EDT
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And she worried the Midwest might be less-than-welcoming to a 62-year-old transgender woman.
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There is certainly plenty welcoming of that crap in the Westport Area.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:37:34 AM EDT
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DHS/Customs is involved invasive species pose a HUGE threat to affordable food production, stopping those invasive weeds, diseases, and insects, at the border is far easier(cheaper, and passes those savings on to consumers) than stopping them at individual farms. Look at the African Swine Fever outbreak in china, pork prices have gone through the roof, effecting beef prices AND feed prices; .  Check out the below graph the Y axis is global food prices(basically a certain number of calories be they grain, corn, vegetables, ect in equilivent local currency averaged globally), X axis is time, and the dashed lines are food riots caused by overwhelming prices. While the countries listed are mostly 3rd world so the percentage of income spent on food is HUGE(US spends around 10% of average income on food, some of these countries it is 70-90%).If you couldn't cant feed your kids because the price of groceries literally doubled,  rioting and looting isn't far fetched.

@BorderBacon

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https://www.npr.org/2011/01/14/132940190/The-Effect-Of-Rising-Food-Prices-On-Political-Stability

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Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:39:37 AM EDT
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There is certainly plenty welcoming of that crap in the Westport Area.
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And she worried the Midwest might be less-than-welcoming to a 62-year-old transgender woman.
There is certainly plenty welcoming of that crap in the Westport Area.
I used to go to Westport to Kelly's and other bars back in the 80's when I first moved to KC but have no urge whatsoever to go there now.  If I did, I'd probably say "Westport..... you'll never find a more wretched hive of freaks and Alphabet people."
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 10:09:13 AM EDT
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Importation of bugs (critters, wood boring beetles, snails, invasive species, etc) and disease (canker, blight, etc) is a big deal.  They can do tons of damage to US crops, ecosystems, etc.

Agricultural Officers with DHS/CBP/OFO detect, test, track, analyze these threats and stop them from coming to the US.

Customs and Border Protection Officers (OFO) do the job of finding and seizing these items during inspections at borders or border nexus points - and provide them to the Ag Officer.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 10:15:04 AM EDT
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Two thirds quit.

New jobs for the folks of KC. Nice.
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this was my thought - maybe its time to start suckling upon the .gov tit
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 10:21:58 AM EDT
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So they made this whole story basically about one trans .gov employee

Who cares. Companies move all the time in the private sector
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Lol got to push the narrative and normalize mental illness.

That said trans or not, losing the spouse to cancer and then a son to drugs, then your job changes, that sucks.

Last I knew when the government transferred you, they paid the moving bill.   Quit your bitching about the woe is me.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 10:23:07 AM EDT
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In this kind of move, the very worst employees are the ones who will take the relocation. They don't have any other options, and they can sleep in their cubicles as easily in KC as in DC.
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Oh well, plenty of folks will be willing to take their place.  Also, this will separate the wheat from the chaff as the older, more traditional, bureaucrats are replaced by younger, more dedicated, people who want to work and serve. Unfortunately, we will lose much richness and vibrancy...
In this kind of move, the very worst employees are the ones who will take the relocation. They don't have any other options, and they can sleep in their cubicles as easily in KC as in DC.
Yup... the shovel leaners aren't the one jumping ship, its the good ones with prospects.  Moreover, what is the "people who want to work and serve" bullshit... working a government job is not "serving" - 9.9 times out of ten its simply milking the system and stealing from your neighbor - the only good government is a small government - screw virtually anyone who make a long-term living from their neighbors taxes
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 10:23:07 AM EDT
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I wouldn't want to live in Kansas either
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 10:29:38 AM EDT
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No, They can't find another super specific GG-14 grade position that allows them to primarly fuck off all day.  There are allways positions availible, but they may have to work as a contractor, GASP... or take a position that actually requires some level of participation
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They live in D.C. and can't find another job? Really?
No, They can't find another super specific GG-14 grade position that allows them to primarly fuck off all day.  There are allways positions availible, but they may have to work as a contractor, GASP... or take a position that actually requires some level of participation
Bingo.  I was a Fed employee for a few years at the start of my career.  I quickly jumped ship to the private sector.  But one thing I learned was that as you progress up the ladder in the Fed system, many times the job descriptions for certain positions are essentially tailored to a specific person.  So really it's about "promoting" the person they want.  As you advance, you become more and more tied into your organization.  Whatever skills you have that allowed you tor rise to a certain Fed level may really have minimal carryover to other jobs.

As was mentioned in the article, one good choice available to these folks is to go to work writing the proposals they would have been reviewing back at their old job.  But I know people who work in that field in DC, and you don't get to fuck around.  You get swamped with work and you've got to put out quality product and put it out right the fuck now.  If that means working super long days and weekends and holidays that's what you do.  This sort of position will be a horrific culture shock to someone insulated in what is essentially an academia type job with additional protections form being a Fed employee.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 10:30:00 AM EDT
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KC?  Should have moved them to Nebraska.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 10:30:27 AM EDT
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Yup... the shovel leaners aren't the one jumping ship, its the good ones with prospects.  Moreover, what is the "people who want to work and serve" bullshit... working a government job is not "serving" - 9.9 times out of ten its simply milking the system and stealing from your neighbor - the only good government is a small government - screw virtually anyone who make a long-term living from their neighbors taxes
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Oh well, plenty of folks will be willing to take their place.  Also, this will separate the wheat from the chaff as the older, more traditional, bureaucrats are replaced by younger, more dedicated, people who want to work and serve. Unfortunately, we will lose much richness and vibrancy...
In this kind of move, the very worst employees are the ones who will take the relocation. They don't have any other options, and they can sleep in their cubicles as easily in KC as in DC.
Yup... the shovel leaners aren't the one jumping ship, its the good ones with prospects.  Moreover, what is the "people who want to work and serve" bullshit... working a government job is not "serving" - 9.9 times out of ten its simply milking the system and stealing from your neighbor - the only good government is a small government - screw virtually anyone who make a long-term living from their neighbors taxes
Not what I am seeing in the articles. All the shitheads are punching out. If you got a PhD in economics and are too stupid to realize that you will have a better standard of living in KC over DC then you are too stupid to be a PhD working for anyone.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 10:31:17 AM EDT
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Lol.  God forbid the USDA actually be where the food is grown.
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They're in the "government" business much more than the "food" business anyway.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 10:34:23 AM EDT
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So I’m not supposed to have prejudices of transgender people, but it has prejudices of Midwesterners.

Got it.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 10:37:40 AM EDT
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They got off easy. Should have moved them to garden city ks.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 10:50:27 AM EDT
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well, yeah that does suck.

Kinda like being in the private sector and dealing with outsourcing, mergers, buyouts and all the crap everyone else has to deal with. Been there, done that many times.  I guess it deserves an article because it's a government agency?
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Shrug.
I can see some arguement for keeping brass in dc but in all reality they fly around so much it doesn't matter where their "office" is, except for how it changes the cola calculation.  But it won't really matter much because they will just stay in travel status and keep their pay pretty similar.
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Where's the Bender, "Let me laugh harder" pic?
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