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Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:02:17 PM EST
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Pick a job that doesn’t relocate people.

Working for a city that can relocate your office across the city beats a gov that can move your job across
The state or the country
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:02:20 PM EST
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good we need to to diversify these stupid isolated bureaucrats &  decentralize the govermet power
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:22:19 PM EST
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A lot cheaper to live in KC, than DC, cut the pay also.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:31:21 PM EST
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Good way to get rid of some swamp creatures and employ regular Americans.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 10:01:27 PM EST
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Yep. Flat as a pancake, too . . . you can see for miles without a hill in sight . . . especially in southern Missouri.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 10:14:48 PM EST
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Yep. Flat as a pancake, too . . . you can see for miles without a hill in sight . . . especially in southern Missouri.
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It's called big sky country for a reason.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 10:25:55 PM EST
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Pick a job that doesn’t relocate people.

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They do not have to move.  You can almost guarantee they will get hired at a different DC agency if they want.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 11:24:54 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/9/2019 11:56:59 PM EST
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It's called big sky country for a reason.
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Agreed MT WY and CO have more big sky.

Kansas is the sunflower state, the wheat state. KS has big skies but once every 87 hours they turn deep velvet purple and a tornado or cantaloup hailstone drops down and tries to kill you. Those climate change scientists should in theory love KS because the climate changes continually there.

MO is the “show me” state. MO is the GD of states in some ways.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 5:39:57 AM EST
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MO is the “show me” state. MO is the GD of states in some ways.
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You're not entirely wrong.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 8:05:23 AM EST
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That’s because you’re one of the unwashed masses in flyover country. You’re not one of the enlightened that lives on the east or west coast and are “above” those lowly plebes in between
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I would 100% rather live in Kansas City than DC.  I would take a pay cut to move from DC to KC.
That’s because you’re one of the unwashed masses in flyover country. You’re not one of the enlightened that lives on the east or west coast and are “above” those lowly plebes in between
I live in DC, am a full time federal employee, and I'd fucking LEAP at the chance to move back to flyover country.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 8:06:17 AM EST
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I live in DC, am a full time federal employee, and I'd fucking LEAP at the chance to move back to flyover country.
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I would 100% rather live in Kansas City than DC.  I would take a pay cut to move from DC to KC.
That’s because you’re one of the unwashed masses in flyover country. You’re not one of the enlightened that lives on the east or west coast and are “above” those lowly plebes in between
I live in DC, am a full time federal employee, and I'd fucking LEAP at the chance to move back to flyover country.
What's stopping you?  USAjobs is full of openings.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 8:15:07 AM EST
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Equal Opportunity Specialist
US Department of Agriculture
Kansas City, MO
$105,664 - $137,366 a year

Wow.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 8:17:55 AM EST
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And they have two advertisements so there's a pair of them.  
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 8:18:24 AM EST
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That's why they need tree breeders.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 8:23:50 AM EST
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I would 100% rather live in Kansas City than DC.  I would take a pay cut to move from DC to KC.
That’s because you’re one of the unwashed masses in flyover country. You’re not one of the enlightened that lives on the east or west coast and are “above” those lowly plebes in between
I live in DC, am a full time federal employee, and I'd fucking LEAP at the chance to move back to flyover country.
What's stopping you?  USAjobs is full of openings.
So the dirty secret of the hiring process is that once a listing is posted, they probably already have an internal candidate.  They're required by law to list it publically unless they can justify an internal only hire (or other, non-public process).

Generally if it's only open for a week, the hiring managers already know who they want. If it's open for more than 3 weeks, it's them just collecting resumes.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 8:26:56 AM EST
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If all they do is climate change, fire them all.  It's all pushing a globalist agenda.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 8:27:31 AM EST
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I'd hate moving to KC, but I would love to take my GS level to some place away from a major metropolitan area.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 8:30:04 AM EST
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Whats so bad about KC?

/frownyface

(Other than me living here, hurr dee durr).
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 8:30:44 AM EST
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Should've relocated them to northern Minnesota
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 8:31:38 AM EST
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Do you have any idea how hard it is to learn to code as a 55 year old trans person? Or a 30-something PhD who isn’t too bright? These folks can barely work their radios to listen to WAMU public radio through the tears.

And OMG kansas city????

That’s like practically the moon, it only has several million people, pro sports teams, art museums, and a busy international airport.
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if they dont want to move they can learn to code.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to learn to code as a 55 year old trans person? Or a 30-something PhD who isn’t too bright? These folks can barely work their radios to listen to WAMU public radio through the tears.

And OMG kansas city????

That’s like practically the moon, it only has several million people, pro sports teams, art museums, and a busy international airport.
We don't fucking want them.  ANY of them.  There are enough liberal losers here already.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 8:37:14 AM EST
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So the dirty secret of the hiring process is that once a listing is posted, they probably already have an internal candidate.  They're required by law to list it publically unless they can justify an internal only hire (or other, non-public process).

Generally if it's only open for a week, the hiring managers already know who they want. If it's open for more than 3 weeks, it's them just collecting resumes.
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I would 100% rather live in Kansas City than DC.  I would take a pay cut to move from DC to KC.
That’s because you’re one of the unwashed masses in flyover country. You’re not one of the enlightened that lives on the east or west coast and are “above” those lowly plebes in between
I live in DC, am a full time federal employee, and I'd fucking LEAP at the chance to move back to flyover country.
What's stopping you?  USAjobs is full of openings.
So the dirty secret of the hiring process is that once a listing is posted, they probably already have an internal candidate.  They're required by law to list it publically unless they can justify an internal only hire (or other, non-public process).

Generally if it's only open for a week, the hiring managers already know who they want. If it's open for more than 3 weeks, it's them just collecting resumes.
There's no law requiring that it be listed to the public, in fact it may be harder than listing it for internal and other special case candidates.

And if it's open for a week, then the hiring manager wants the fill the vacancy and not mess around waiting for weeks on end.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 8:38:51 AM EST
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I would 100% rather live in Kansas City than DC.  I would take a pay cut to move from DC to KC.
That’s because you’re one of the unwashed masses in flyover country. You’re not one of the enlightened that lives on the east or west coast and are “above” those lowly plebes in between
I live in DC, am a full time federal employee, and I'd fucking LEAP at the chance to move back to flyover country.
What's stopping you?  USAjobs is full of openings.
What's stopping me is that not all federal jobs are the same and you don't know whom I work for.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 8:40:51 AM EST
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This happened when the FBI moved Criminal Justice Information Services Division to West Virginia. The largely black female staff in Washington DC refused to move.

Surprising thing happened. Service improved drastically.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 8:42:50 AM EST
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Yea tell that to my GF.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 8:49:35 AM EST
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What's stopping me is that not all federal jobs are the same and you don't know whom I work for.
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I would 100% rather live in Kansas City than DC.  I would take a pay cut to move from DC to KC.
That’s because you’re one of the unwashed masses in flyover country. You’re not one of the enlightened that lives on the east or west coast and are “above” those lowly plebes in between
I live in DC, am a full time federal employee, and I'd fucking LEAP at the chance to move back to flyover country.
What's stopping you?  USAjobs is full of openings.
What's stopping me is that not all federal jobs are the same and you don't know whom I work for.
I don't care who you work for.  And you can do a different job if you hate DC that much.  Life is full of choices.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 8:49:50 AM EST
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My thoughts exactly.  The ones that quit probably think "Oh god, I can't live with hillbillies that make moonshine, raise killer dogs and sleep with their sister/cousins in their trailer parks!!!  Will I have to wear overalls and have to get 9 hound dogs?  WILL I????"

Idiots.
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Two thirds quit.

New jobs for the folks of KC. Nice.
My thoughts exactly.  The ones that quit probably think "Oh god, I can't live with hillbillies that make moonshine, raise killer dogs and sleep with their sister/cousins in their trailer parks!!!  Will I have to wear overalls and have to get 9 hound dogs?  WILL I????"

Idiots.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 9:00:28 AM EST
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And OMG kansas city????

That's like practically the moon, it only has several million people, pro sports teams, art museums, and a busy international airport.
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Yeah. But it's a third rate symphony.

Link Posted: 9/10/2019 9:57:52 AM EST
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I live in DC, am a full time federal employee, and I'd fucking LEAP at the chance to move back to flyover country.
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I would 100% rather live in Kansas City than DC.  I would take a pay cut to move from DC to KC.
That’s because you’re one of the unwashed masses in flyover country. You’re not one of the enlightened that lives on the east or west coast and are “above” those lowly plebes in between
I live in DC, am a full time federal employee, and I'd fucking LEAP at the chance to move back to flyover country.
I'm happy to hold down the fort here.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 10:00:23 AM EST
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There's no law requiring that it be listed to the public, in fact it may be harder than listing it for internal and other special case candidates.

And if it's open for a week, then the hiring manager wants the fill the vacancy and not mess around waiting for weeks on end.
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I would 100% rather live in Kansas City than DC.  I would take a pay cut to move from DC to KC.
That’s because you’re one of the unwashed masses in flyover country. You’re not one of the enlightened that lives on the east or west coast and are “above” those lowly plebes in between
I live in DC, am a full time federal employee, and I'd fucking LEAP at the chance to move back to flyover country.
What's stopping you?  USAjobs is full of openings.
So the dirty secret of the hiring process is that once a listing is posted, they probably already have an internal candidate.  They're required by law to list it publically unless they can justify an internal only hire (or other, non-public process).

Generally if it's only open for a week, the hiring managers already know who they want. If it's open for more than 3 weeks, it's them just collecting resumes.
There's no law requiring that it be listed to the public, in fact it may be harder than listing it for internal and other special case candidates.

And if it's open for a week, then the hiring manager wants the fill the vacancy and not mess around waiting for weeks on end.
Except they're still going to wait weeks on end, regardless of how it was listed. The system is specifically designed to prevent the hiring manager from just picking their friend.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 10:06:09 AM EST
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Maybe I’ll apply now
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Except they're still going to wait weeks on end, regardless of how it was listed. The system is specifically designed to prevent the hiring manager from just picking their friend.
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Putting the listing out for a month isn't going to get you that much better of a candidate pool, it'll just take three weeks longer than putting it out for a month.

And at this point we seem to be agreeing that there is a process in place to help combat "their guy" just getting selected.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 10:25:36 AM EST
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Yup, and the Forest Service is under the department of Agriculture. When I think of agriculture and forest i think of D.C. Oh wait no I don't.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 10:42:33 AM EST
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Sounds like they are draining the swamp from the inside out. Everyone who doesn't transfer gets replaced with a more conservative face.

I bet if Trump could move FBI headquarters, he'd do it too.
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I don't care who you work for.  And you can do a different job if you hate DC that much.  Life is full of choices.
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I would 100% rather live in Kansas City than DC.  I would take a pay cut to move from DC to KC.
That’s because you’re one of the unwashed masses in flyover country. You’re not one of the enlightened that lives on the east or west coast and are “above” those lowly plebes in between
I live in DC, am a full time federal employee, and I'd fucking LEAP at the chance to move back to flyover country.
What's stopping you?  USAjobs is full of openings.
What's stopping me is that not all federal jobs are the same and you don't know whom I work for.
I don't care who you work for.  And you can do a different job if you hate DC that much.  Life is full of choices.
I work in a secure facility outside of DC and you still don't know what you're talking about. Federal transfers are not easy despite common lore.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 10:49:23 AM EST
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Do you have any idea how hard it is to learn to code as a 55 year old trans person? Or a 30-something PhD who isn't too bright? These folks can barely work their radios to listen to WAMU public radio through the tears.

And OMG kansas city????

That's like practically the moon, it only has several million people, pro sports teams, art museums, and a busy international airport.
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if they dont want to move they can learn to code.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to learn to code as a 55 year old trans person? Or a 30-something PhD who isn't too bright? These folks can barely work their radios to listen to WAMU public radio through the tears.

And OMG kansas city????

That's like practically the moon, it only has several million people, pro sports teams, art museums, and a busy international airport.
And BBQ. Don't forget the BBQ.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 10:52:01 AM EST
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Climate change?  Who dafuq needs that globalist BS.  Move beotch and if you don't like it, flip burgers at McD and stock shelves at Wally World.
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Next month, Johnson, a 28-year-veteran of the U.S. Agriculture Department who most recently led its program on climate change, will quit her job and move away from the home she can no longer afford. She packs one box a night, more on weekends, in preparation for an upheaval she neither wanted nor expected.
Climate change?  Who dafuq needs that globalist BS.  Move beotch and if you don't like it, flip burgers at McD and stock shelves at Wally World.
This climate change bullshit is destroying the energy industry and forcing my wife and I to change career paths. Fuck these cunts I hope they end up in a trailer park.
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I work in a secure facility outside of DC and you still don't know what you're talking about. Federal transfers are not easy despite common lore.
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I would 100% rather live in Kansas City than DC.  I would take a pay cut to move from DC to KC.
That’s because you’re one of the unwashed masses in flyover country. You’re not one of the enlightened that lives on the east or west coast and are “above” those lowly plebes in between
I live in DC, am a full time federal employee, and I'd fucking LEAP at the chance to move back to flyover country.
What's stopping you?  USAjobs is full of openings.
What's stopping me is that not all federal jobs are the same and you don't know whom I work for.
I don't care who you work for.  And you can do a different job if you hate DC that much.  Life is full of choices.
I work in a secure facility outside of DC and you still don't know what you're talking about. Federal transfers are not easy despite common lore.
I only know what I have observed with personnel moving between agencies.  And I stand by my statement that you remain there and not where you would rather be by choice.
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Difference between us and them.... We'd actually prefer the wide-open spaces to a rat cage.
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Sounds like they are draining the swamp from the inside out. Everyone who doesn't transfer gets replaced with a more conservative face.

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Congres already told them no. They wanted to move to Quantico
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Government drone jobs should be located in one of the most cost-effective locations in the country, like the Midwest. Fuck paying drones to work in some of the most expensive real estate in the world.

There's no excuse anymore. The internet and connectivity has made geographic proximity completely irrelevant.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 11:00:21 AM EST
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...ripping apart the lives of its employees...


-A tornado will rip apart your life
-A hurricane will rip apart your life
-A grave injury or terminal illness will rip apart your life

Your employer downsizing, restructuring, or relocating?

Welcome to the real world, Princess. Life is hard, get a helmet.

There's always the dreaded private sector if you're too unhappy.
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Boo fucking hoo
Difference between us and them.... We'd actually prefer the wide-open spaces to a rat cage.
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I only know what I have observed with personnel moving between agencies.  And I stand by my statement that you remain there and not where you would rather be by choice.
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I would 100% rather live in Kansas City than DC.  I would take a pay cut to move from DC to KC.
That’s because you’re one of the unwashed masses in flyover country. You’re not one of the enlightened that lives on the east or west coast and are “above” those lowly plebes in between
I live in DC, am a full time federal employee, and I'd fucking LEAP at the chance to move back to flyover country.
What's stopping you?  USAjobs is full of openings.
What's stopping me is that not all federal jobs are the same and you don't know whom I work for.
I don't care who you work for.  And you can do a different job if you hate DC that much.  Life is full of choices.
I work in a secure facility outside of DC and you still don't know what you're talking about. Federal transfers are not easy despite common lore.
I only know what I have observed with personnel moving between agencies.  And I stand by my statement that you remain there and not where you would rather be by choice.
I'm glad you know so much about me, my job, and my family situation.  You don't have to run your mouth about what you're ignorant of, but you do.
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I don’t have a problem with the move really, but suggesting USDA employees are equivalent to “traitors” is just asinine
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I’m trying to think of something so horrific, that it would cause me to have sympathy for a traitor who serves the federal government, if it happened to them...
Still can’t come up with anything...
Nope, I got nothin.
I don’t have a problem with the move really, but suggesting USDA employees are equivalent to “traitors” is just asinine
Too damn many are commie shitbirds, political activists, or both.
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"Next month, Johnson, a 28-year-veteran of the U.S. Agriculture Department who most recently led its program on climate change, will quit her job..."

Boo fucking hoo! Also, article went on to state that almost 2/3rds of the employees are quitting vs relocating. Ok.

The current administration moving branches out of DC and to the areas they're responsible for overseeing is EPIC.  Guess they're doing this with the BLM too, booting them from DC and spreading the office types out around the shitty parts of the west, forcing them to interact with the people vs be disconnected in DC.

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I most strongly disagree with your characterization of the West, specifically KC, as "shitty". Every time I have been there the people have been better than DC, with manners, smiles, and edible (as in excellent) bbq.

If my employer were to offer to me a chance to relocate out of the cluster of human misery, rudeness, and entitlement that is Fairfax I would be forever grateful.
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It's the swamp, nobody wants someone from the other swamp in their swamp......
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Trump added 34,000 government jobs last month.

As for the workers, life is hard...deal with it.
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LOL, suck it.  We have far too many .gov employees as it is.
Trump added 34,000 government jobs last month.

As for the workers, life is hard...deal with it.
Not at any of the agencies I deal with.  The hiring freeze is SOLID there.  They've got a stack of open positions due to retirements and they refuse to fill them.
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I'm glad you know so much about me, my job, and my family situation.  You don't have to run your mouth about what you're ignorant of, but you do.
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I would 100% rather live in Kansas City than DC.  I would take a pay cut to move from DC to KC.
That’s because you’re one of the unwashed masses in flyover country. You’re not one of the enlightened that lives on the east or west coast and are “above” those lowly plebes in between
I live in DC, am a full time federal employee, and I'd fucking LEAP at the chance to move back to flyover country.
What's stopping you?  USAjobs is full of openings.
What's stopping me is that not all federal jobs are the same and you don't know whom I work for.
I don't care who you work for.  And you can do a different job if you hate DC that much.  Life is full of choices.
I work in a secure facility outside of DC and you still don't know what you're talking about. Federal transfers are not easy despite common lore.
I only know what I have observed with personnel moving between agencies.  And I stand by my statement that you remain there and not where you would rather be by choice.
I'm glad you know so much about me, my job, and my family situation.  You don't have to run your mouth about what you're ignorant of, but you do.
You are bound and determined to be offended.
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I would 100% rather live in Kansas City than DC.  I would take a pay cut to move from DC to KC.
That’s because you’re one of the unwashed masses in flyover country. You’re not one of the enlightened that lives on the east or west coast and are “above” those lowly plebes in between
I live in DC, am a full time federal employee, and I'd fucking LEAP at the chance to move back to flyover country.
What's stopping you?  USAjobs is full of openings.
What's stopping me is that not all federal jobs are the same and you don't know whom I work for.
I don't care who you work for.  And you can do a different job if you hate DC that much.  Life is full of choices.
I work in a secure facility outside of DC and you still don't know what you're talking about. Federal transfers are not easy despite common lore.
I only know what I have observed with personnel moving between agencies.  And I stand by my statement that you remain there and not where you would rather be by choice.
I'm glad you know so much about me, my job, and my family situation.  You don't have to run your mouth about what you're ignorant of, but you do.
You are bound and determined to be offended.
No, you just don't know what the fuck you're talking about.  You really don't, so don't try and lecture on my job.  It's OK not to be a knowitall online.
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