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Posted: 9/16/2021 1:56:00 PM EDT
American Airlines Flight Turns Around and Kicks Off Mother and Her Asthmatic 2-Year-Old Baby Over Mask Policy — Police Meet Them at the Gate



On Monday, American Airlines flight 1284 turned around and kicked off a two-year-old asthmatic boy, his mother, and his grandmother because the child was suffering from an asthma attack during mid-flight and could not wear the mask properly.

Amanda Pendarvis, the mother, posted on her Instagram story a video of her son who was having an asthma attack and was refusing to put on his mask due to his inability to breathe properly.


   A mother has alleged that an American Airlines flight attendant kicked her and her son off of a flight because the two-year-old could not wear a mask properly during an asthma attack.

   Story upcoming at @NationalFile pic.twitter.com/4OajeHrMAz

   — Jack Hadfield ?????? (@JackHadders) September 14, 2021



Pendarvis described it on her IG story as the “most humiliating/traumatizing experience. Here is an excerpt from her post:

   I do not have the energy to type all the details right now… but I will in the next couple of days. We are finally in peaceful Colorado with my in-laws and I am very grateful for that. But my mom, Way & me just had the most humiliating/traumatizing experience because of a truly evil, power-tripping flight attendant named Carl @americanair.


   I’ll spoil the ending: He had the plane turned around and has us escorted off to be met by police officers: WHY? Wait for it….. because my 2 year old was not properly wearing a mask…. Mind you, Way is asthmatic. We showed him a negative COVID test Way had yesterday. Told him he has asthma & has never worn a mask before. He did not care that this asthmatic child was literally hyperventilating.

   I was not refusing a mask. Nor did I even say I wouldn’t try to keep a mask on my son. We were escorted off the plane as I was holding a mask over his little face. I genuinely don’t have words.

   He got on the intercom to say to the entire plane, “I’m sorry for the delay but we are dealing with a non-compliant traveler.”

A now-viral post is making rounds online. Pendarvis’ friend tweeted out screenshots of the video that was posted from her Instagram account.

   To be fair, Carl was told by his masters that this behavior is acceptable. American Airlines is solely responsible.

   — Tiger Lily (@yogarespecter) September 14, 2021



Her friend continued, “I’d like to say that not ONE person stood up for this mom on the plane. I can’t even comprehend seeing an injustice and just sitting quietly. This doesn’t end unless we all start standing up against TYRANTS. STAND UP. SPEAK UP. FIGHT BACK.”

   I’d like to say that not ONE person stood up for this mom on the plane.
   I can’t even comprehend seeing an injustice and just sitting quietly.

   This doesn’t end unless we all start standing up against TYRANTS.

   STAND UP. SPEAK UP. FIGHT BACK.

   — Tiger Lily (@yogarespecter) September 14, 2021



American Airlines responded to Tiger Lily’s tweet saying that they reached out to the family asking for information. But Tiger Lily replied, “That’s not enough for me. I’m sure the Biden administration is pleased with your abuse of power but this family will see justice.”

   That’s not enough for me. I’m sure the Biden administration is pleased with your abuse of power but this family will see justice.

   — Tiger Lily (@yogarespecter) September 14, 2021

American Airline confirmed to National File that the incident was true and the action of the flight attendant was purely based on their policy.


   National File reached out to American Airlines for a statement on the incident, and whether the actions of the flight attendant were acceptable and in line with their company policies, despite the result being the punishment of a family because of uncontrollable health issues of a minor. After publication, American Airlines issued a response to National File that seemed to confirm the series of events.

   This comes just as the Biden administration has doubled the fines for travellers who do not wear a mask on public transport, with first time offenders now liable for fines of up to $500. Exemptions apply for children under 2 and travelers with certain disabilities. While asthma “likely” does not fall under these exemptions, CDC guidelines state that such exemptions only exist because those in question could not remove their mask if breathing became obstructed. It is therefore a possibility that due to the obstruction of breathing from the asthma attack, this incident may have been incorrectly adjudicated by the American Airlines staff.

Link Posted: 9/16/2021 1:56:47 PM EDT
[#1]
If delta can ban the guy that shot bin laden (supposedly) then baby’s are fair game for any airline.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 1:58:56 PM EDT
[#2]
Clown world!!!
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:00:16 PM EDT
[#3]
People need to stop flying. Starve the beast.

Most of the world has gone to shit anyway there isn't much to see and do anymore.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:00:42 PM EDT
[#4]
 This comes just as the Biden administration has doubled the fines for travellers who do not wear a mask on public transport, with first time offenders now liable for fines of up to $500. Exemptions apply for children under 2 and travelers with certain disabilities. While asthma “likely” does not fall under these exemptions, CDC guidelines state that such exemptions only exist because those in question could not remove their mask if breathing became obstructed. It is therefore a possibility that due to the obstruction of breathing from the asthma attack, this incident may have been incorrectly adjudicated by the American Airlines staff.

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The world is broken. The CDC is telling people how to breathe and the airline must adjudicate if they are doing it properly.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:01:02 PM EDT
[#5]
There are ways to handle these types of things, unfortunately not many have the stomach for it.

...the beat goes on.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:01:41 PM EDT
[#6]
I predict that this will cost AA many millions of dollars and yet they will learn nothing and probably even double down on their stupidity.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:02:13 PM EDT
[#7]
You can thank the TSA and CDC. It is their mask mandate that the airlines must follow.

Unfortunately, the government does not allow common sense.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:04:41 PM EDT
[#8]
That’s f’d up.  I wish AA would crash and burn.  In business no more.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:05:17 PM EDT
[#9]
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:05:32 PM EDT
[#10]
They need to change their damn name already.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:05:38 PM EDT
[#11]
Might be more to the story:
Marketwatch

A spokesman from American Airlines confirmed to MarketWatch that AA Flight 1284 was returned to the gate, and that Pendarvis' party had to deplane for "refusing to comply with crew member instructions to remain seated while on an active taxiway and to wear face coverings securely over their nose and mouth." They were rebooked for another flight, and there were no fees associated with the rebooking, the airline said.

"After observing a minor in the party laying in the aisle and moving between seats on taxi out, our flight crew made multiple attempts to reinforce safety requirements," he continued. "While addressing the party, our crew also reminded the individuals in the party that federal directives require customers to wear a face covering at all times while on board unless actively eating or drinking."


"At no time was it made known to our crew members that a member of the party was experiencing an asthma attack or trouble breathing," he added. "Individuals were not addressed for failure to comply with face covering requirements at any point while administering treatment."

Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:07:09 PM EDT
[#12]
It seems crazy to us. But them doing that is the overwhelmingly popular consensus. People want this. And much worse.  Imagine a world where the airline is actually taking the "conservative" approach to this. Because they only kicked them off. And not put them on a no fly list or banned from the airline forever. The airlines are fighting off rabid lunatics that want much worse for these people.

I just took a yougov survey with many covid restriction type questions.  The results were fucking insane. I am talking 62% wanting jail time and huge fines for not conforming to covid restrictions type stuff. And that is with 24 thousand people responding so far to the survey....

Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:07:37 PM EDT
[#13]
One more reason why I no longer fly.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:07:42 PM EDT
[#14]
Bomb bA BOMB BOMB BOMB BABOMB BOMB BOMB
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:09:43 PM EDT
[#15]
Lets see the video.... There is more to this story....
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:09:43 PM EDT
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A spokesman from American Airlines confirmed to MarketWatch that AA Flight 1284 was returned to the gate, and that Pendarvis' party had to deplane for "refusing to comply with crew member instructions to remain seated while on an active taxiway and to wear face coverings securely over their nose and mouth." They were rebooked for another flight, and there were no fees associated with the rebooking, the airline said.

"After observing a minor in the party laying in the aisle and moving between seats on taxi out, our flight crew made multiple attempts to reinforce safety requirements," he continued. "While addressing the party, our crew also reminded the individuals in the party that federal directives require customers to wear a face covering at all times while on board unless actively eating or drinking."


"At no time was it made known to our crew members that a member of the party was experiencing an asthma attack or trouble breathing," he added. "Individuals were not addressed for failure to comply with face covering requirements at any point while administering treatment."

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There is almost always more to the story than the "victim" is willing to share publicly.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:10:43 PM EDT
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A spokesman from American Airlines confirmed to MarketWatch that AA Flight 1284 was returned to the gate, and that Pendarvis' party had to deplane for "refusing to comply with crew member instructions to remain seated while on an active taxiway and to wear face coverings securely over their nose and mouth." They were rebooked for another flight, and there were no fees associated with the rebooking, the airline said.

"After observing a minor in the party laying in the aisle and moving between seats on taxi out, our flight crew made multiple attempts to reinforce safety requirements," he continued. "While addressing the party, our crew also reminded the individuals in the party that federal directives require customers to wear a face covering at all times while on board unless actively eating or drinking."


"At no time was it made known to our crew members that a member of the party was experiencing an asthma attack or trouble breathing," he added. "Individuals were not addressed for failure to comply with face covering requirements at any point while administering treatment."

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And there it is.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:11:58 PM EDT
[#18]
I would spend as much as it took on lawyers to make sure Carl had to spend the rest of his life living under a bridge.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:12:22 PM EDT
[#19]
Believe Women
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:13:23 PM EDT
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And there it is.
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A spokesman from American Airlines confirmed to MarketWatch that AA Flight 1284 was returned to the gate, and that Pendarvis' party had to deplane for "refusing to comply with crew member instructions to remain seated while on an active taxiway and to wear face coverings securely over their nose and mouth." They were rebooked for another flight, and there were no fees associated with the rebooking, the airline said.

"After observing a minor in the party laying in the aisle and moving between seats on taxi out, our flight crew made multiple attempts to reinforce safety requirements," he continued. "While addressing the party, our crew also reminded the individuals in the party that federal directives require customers to wear a face covering at all times while on board unless actively eating or drinking."


"At no time was it made known to our crew members that a member of the party was experiencing an asthma attack or trouble breathing," he added. "Individuals were not addressed for failure to comply with face covering requirements at any point while administering treatment."



And there it is.

Possibly.  However why do you believe the Airline immediately while questioning the Passenger?  Both have incentive to skew the narrative in their favor.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:14:09 PM EDT
[#21]
Power trip.  That's all any of this is.  And there are none worse than the flight attendants that have been virtually deputized
thanks to the failed war on terror.

I am a frequent business flyer.  As well, all these airlines are now extra-woke, so you can guess how that affects their power trip.

Let's say the family is outright lying, that does not change a single thing I wrote.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:14:24 PM EDT
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A spokesman from American Airlines confirmed to MarketWatch that AA Flight 1284 was returned to the gate, and that Pendarvis' party had to deplane for "refusing to comply with crew member instructions to remain seated while on an active taxiway and to wear face coverings securely over their nose and mouth." They were rebooked for another flight, and there were no fees associated with the rebooking, the airline said.

"After observing a minor in the party laying in the aisle and moving between seats on taxi out, our flight crew made multiple attempts to reinforce safety requirements," he continued. "While addressing the party, our crew also reminded the individuals in the party that federal directives require customers to wear a face covering at all times while on board unless actively eating or drinking."


"At no time was it made known to our crew members that a member of the party was experiencing an asthma attack or trouble breathing," he added. "Individuals were not addressed for failure to comply with face covering requirements at any point while administering treatment."

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Well, there's a fukkin' surprise..
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:15:13 PM EDT
[#23]
I have asthma.  I would have stood up.  I would have gotten off  (probably been thrown off) as well.

Fucking discriminating cock suckers.  

When I have to wear a mask, I'm sucking more air than a worn out 78 Oldsmobile.  I've even had to use my rescue inhaler while fucking getting a small amount of groceries.  


It's not right.   Treated like 3rd class citizens.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:15:52 PM EDT
[#24]
Her story sounds like BS
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:16:51 PM EDT
[#25]
I just don’t believe anyone at this point.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:17:05 PM EDT
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I have asthma.  I would have stood up.  I would have gotten off  (probably been thrown off) as well.
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You probably would have, they don't take too kindly to that in public.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:17:14 PM EDT
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You're going to sue Carl for following company policy?  LOL

Do you realize how many people get kicked off airplanes everyday?

She'll be lucky that she isn't given a fine.  It looks like she got in front of the situation with her PR campaign and probably won't. But they have been doing that.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:17:31 PM EDT
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Possibly.  However why do you believe the Airline immediately while questioning the Passenger?  Both have incentive to skew the narrative in their favor.
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A spokesman from American Airlines confirmed to MarketWatch that AA Flight 1284 was returned to the gate, and that Pendarvis' party had to deplane for "refusing to comply with crew member instructions to remain seated while on an active taxiway and to wear face coverings securely over their nose and mouth." They were rebooked for another flight, and there were no fees associated with the rebooking, the airline said.

"After observing a minor in the party laying in the aisle and moving between seats on taxi out, our flight crew made multiple attempts to reinforce safety requirements," he continued. "While addressing the party, our crew also reminded the individuals in the party that federal directives require customers to wear a face covering at all times while on board unless actively eating or drinking."


"At no time was it made known to our crew members that a member of the party was experiencing an asthma attack or trouble breathing," he added. "Individuals were not addressed for failure to comply with face covering requirements at any point while administering treatment."



And there it is.

Possibly.  However why do you believe the Airline immediately while questioning the Passenger?  Both have incentive to skew the narrative in their favor.

It's good to be skeptical of both sides claims. Especially so when they're packaged into rage-bait articles.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:19:08 PM EDT
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By the friends account stating no other passenger stood up for her and her refusal to discuss the matter with AA when contacted, I am siding with them in the court of public opinion.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:19:15 PM EDT
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A spokesman from American Airlines confirmed to MarketWatch that AA Flight 1284 was returned to the gate, and that Pendarvis' party had to deplane for "refusing to comply with crew member instructions to remain seated while on an active taxiway and to wear face coverings securely over their nose and mouth." They were rebooked for another flight, and there were no fees associated with the rebooking, the airline said.

"After observing a minor in the party laying in the aisle and moving between seats on taxi out, our flight crew made multiple attempts to reinforce safety requirements," he continued. "While addressing the party, our crew also reminded the individuals in the party that federal directives require customers to wear a face covering at all times while on board unless actively eating or drinking."


"At no time was it made known to our crew members that a member of the party was experiencing an asthma attack or trouble breathing," he added. "Individuals were not addressed for failure to comply with face covering requirements at any point while administering treatment."

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The more to the story is the double speak there. They said they didn't know the person was asthmatic, but are also sure they werent told to wear masks while treatment was taking place. And that apparently they were reminded of masks despite not being known or treatment.

Their story contradicts itself more than the ladies.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:21:55 PM EDT
[#31]
I would fire the FA for making such a shitty decision. The cost to turn the flight around is crazy.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:24:06 PM EDT
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There is video if you think it's BS.

She has a ~2 year old, who's acting like 2 year olds sometimes do.

Instead of a little understanding of what is needed to calm an upset 2 year old, we have covitards returning an airliner to the gate so the poor family can be removed to the custody of local law enforcement.

Just a week or so ago American kicked someone off a flight for her "mask" sliding below her nose while putting her carry on in the overhead bin. Lunatics.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:24:16 PM EDT
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Nearly 20 years as an airline Captain.  The shit people come up with is non stop.  The number of bad flight attendants to bad passengers is probably like 1/1000.

And my airline isn't kicking people off for not wearing a mask.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:24:19 PM EDT
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A spokesman from American Airlines confirmed to MarketWatch that AA Flight 1284 was returned to the gate, and that Pendarvis' party had to deplane for "refusing to comply with crew member instructions to remain seated while on an active taxiway and to wear face coverings securely over their nose and mouth." They were rebooked for another flight, and there were no fees associated with the rebooking, the airline said.

"After observing a minor in the party laying in the aisle and moving between seats on taxi out, our flight crew made multiple attempts to reinforce safety requirements," he continued. "While addressing the party, our crew also reminded the individuals in the party that federal directives require customers to wear a face covering at all times while on board unless actively eating or drinking."


"At no time was it made known to our crew members that a member of the party was experiencing an asthma attack or trouble breathing," he added. "Individuals were not addressed for failure to comply with face covering requirements at any point while administering treatment."

Come on man you know FACTS have NO PLACE in GD-CoC violation warning!

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Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:26:38 PM EDT
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Funny how ever loony tune tries to wrap their delusions in the flag and claim anyone that does not agree with them is a communist, tyrant, etc.
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 is still true.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:27:39 PM EDT
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There is video if you think it's BS.

She has a ~2 year old, who's acting like 2 year olds sometimes do.

Instead of a little understanding of what is needed to calm an upset 2 year old, we have covitards returning an airliner to the gate so the poor family can be removed to the custody of local law enforcement.
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Airlines have very specific procedures regarding handling in flight medical emergencies. I highly doubt she informed them that her son was experiencing a medical emergency and their response was as she described.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:27:45 PM EDT
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A spokesman from American Airlines confirmed to MarketWatch that AA Flight 1284 was returned to the gate, and that Pendarvis' party had to deplane for "refusing to comply with crew member instructions to remain seated while on an active taxiway and to wear face coverings securely over their nose and mouth." They were rebooked for another flight, and there were no fees associated with the rebooking, the airline said.

"After observing a minor in the party laying in the aisle and moving between seats on taxi out, our flight crew made multiple attempts to reinforce safety requirements," he continued. "While addressing the party, our crew also reminded the individuals in the party that federal directives require customers to wear a face covering at all times while on board unless actively eating or drinking."


"At no time was it made known to our crew members that a member of the party was experiencing an asthma attack or trouble breathing," he added. "Individuals were not addressed for failure to comply with face covering requirements at any point while administering treatment."



And there it is.


NO ONE STOOD UP FOR US!!!!    Now we know why.   I also don’t see an airline wanting to continue a flight with a child having a medical issue.  What happens if the “asthma attack” got worse during the flight?      Again people making up shit to shame big companies into compensating them.  
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:28:25 PM EDT
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The FA doesn't make the decision to turn the flight around.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:28:51 PM EDT
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More click bait AF-dog pile on-no need for facts in GD...
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:29:36 PM EDT
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That lady needs to teach that baby boy that we're all in this together
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:30:46 PM EDT
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That kids name is Way?  Atleast he’ll get along with lots of hispanics.  Yaaaaaaa gueyyyyy!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:31:05 PM EDT
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That’s f’d up.  I wish AA would crash and burn.  In business no more.
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That bitches story is a flat out lie, and you fell for it hook line and sinker.     You should be ashamed of your stupid comment.  
Learn to think critically.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:31:18 PM EDT
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Nearly 20 years as an airline Captain.  The shit people come up with is non stop.  The number of bad flight attendants to bad passengers is probably like 1/1000.

And my airline isn't kicking people off for not wearing a mask.
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Possibly.  However why do you believe the Airline immediately while questioning the Passenger?  Both have incentive to skew the narrative in their favor.


Nearly 20 years as an airline Captain.  The shit people come up with is non stop.  The number of bad flight attendants to bad passengers is probably like 1/1000.

And my airline isn't kicking people off for not wearing a mask.


Yep.

As soon as I read the headline I knew there was more to the story. Everyone wants to be a victim on social media. There is not a more coveted position in society than that of a victim.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:31:54 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:32:34 PM EDT
[#45]
Tiny minded tyrants love this shit
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:32:34 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:34:42 PM EDT
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People need to stop flying. Starve the beast.

Most of the world has gone to shit anyway there isn't much to see and do anymore.
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Useless.

.Gov will just bail them out.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:36:17 PM EDT
[#48]
This fascist shit is out of control.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:36:23 PM EDT
[#49]
Trust the science.
Link Posted: 9/16/2021 2:37:20 PM EDT
[#50]
This is why children shouldn't fly.
WTF names their kid Way?
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