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Link Posted: 9/17/2021 7:09:45 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/17/2021 7:11:40 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/17/2021 7:15:34 AM EDT
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I witnessed a passenger being escorted off an AA flight by Ft. Meyers Port Police upon landing because the Crew didn’t think he was complying with their direction properly. He was wearing the mask but constantly moving it below his nose until told to raise again by the Flight Attendants.

While I understand the importance of following Flight Crew directions without argument (I totally get that) in this case BOTH the passenger and a particular Attendant were acting like asses.
Link Posted: 9/17/2021 7:27:22 AM EDT
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I flew AA last night.  I found it humorous how they strictly enforce the mask thing, then they serve a drink and little bag of pretzels and you're allowed to take off your mask while you eat your pretzels and sip your coke for like an hour, then after the third garbage collection they sternly announce that everyone must put their mask back on.
Link Posted: 9/17/2021 7:50:41 AM EDT
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People need to stop flying. Starve the beast.

Most of the world has gone to shit anyway there isn't much to see and do anymore.
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While I agree with you, I have no doubt that the government will force you and me to subsidize the airlines.
Link Posted: 9/17/2021 7:54:19 AM EDT
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I'm not buyin' the passenger's story as told. I'm bettin' the crew handled this one correctly.
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It is never correct to force a small child to wear a useless face covering.  WTH is wrong with some of you?
Link Posted: 9/17/2021 7:55:45 AM EDT
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I predict that this will cost AA many millions of dollars and yet they will learn nothing and probably even double down on their stupidity.
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Unfortunately that's not going to happen
Link Posted: 9/17/2021 7:59:17 AM EDT
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I just don’t believe anyone at this point.
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QFT
Link Posted: 9/17/2021 7:59:53 AM EDT
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Don't even need to read the thread.  Let's see... Gateway Pundit, child named "Way", immediately share on Instagram.

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Link Posted: 9/17/2021 8:03:16 AM EDT
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Carl sounds like a fag in the gay mafia cucking out Biden and AA orders.
Link Posted: 9/17/2021 8:14:00 AM EDT
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On one hand, if true as mom describes, it's bullshit.  On the other, if true as mom describes, and the kid is experiencing an asthma attack/hyperventilating/potential medical emergency if it continues to worsen, WTF is mom thinking taking him on a plane.  On the third hand, now there's conflicting stories about what really happened.

I'll chalk this one up as a collision of entitled assholes.
Link Posted: 9/17/2021 8:33:17 AM EDT
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Possibly.  However why do you believe the Airline immediately while questioning the Passenger?  Both have incentive to skew the narrative in their favor.
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Might be more to the story:
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A spokesman from American Airlines confirmed to MarketWatch that AA Flight 1284 was returned to the gate, and that Pendarvis' party had to deplane for "refusing to comply with crew member instructions to remain seated while on an active taxiway and to wear face coverings securely over their nose and mouth." They were rebooked for another flight, and there were no fees associated with the rebooking, the airline said.

"After observing a minor in the party laying in the aisle and moving between seats on taxi out, our flight crew made multiple attempts to reinforce safety requirements," he continued. "While addressing the party, our crew also reminded the individuals in the party that federal directives require customers to wear a face covering at all times while on board unless actively eating or drinking."


"At no time was it made known to our crew members that a member of the party was experiencing an asthma attack or trouble breathing," he added. "Individuals were not addressed for failure to comply with face covering requirements at any point while administering treatment."



And there it is.

Possibly.  However why do you believe the Airline immediately while questioning the Passenger?  Both have incentive to skew the narrative in their favor.


Generally speaking, airline employees get up and do their job every single working day of the week.  

Passengers more often than not rarely fly and it's a big change of routine for them when they do.

The odds of one group being unreasonable and disruptive as a result of stress is substantially higher than the other.

I've been on scores of flights and I've seen plenty of disruptive passengers but I've yet to meet an unreasonable air crew.  I'm sure it's possible but I'm just playing the odds on this story.

Link Posted: 9/17/2021 8:35:04 AM EDT
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This is why children shouldn't fly.
WTF names their kid Way?
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You know what kind of person...
Link Posted: 9/17/2021 8:37:13 AM EDT
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I flew AA last night.  I found it humorous how they strictly enforce the mask thing, then they serve a drink and little bag of pretzels and you're allowed to take off your mask while you eat your pretzels and sip your coke for like an hour, then after the third garbage collection they sternly announce that everyone must put their mask back on.
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Blame the FAA and DOT. All the airlines are forced to do this.
Link Posted: 9/17/2021 8:37:38 AM EDT
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I flew AA last night.  I found it humorous how they strictly enforce the mask thing, then they serve a drink and little bag of pretzels and you're allowed to take off your mask while you eat your pretzels and sip your coke for like an hour, then after the third garbage collection they sternly announce that everyone must put their mask back on.
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The vast majority of mask wearing is performative nonsense.
Link Posted: 9/17/2021 8:49:46 AM EDT
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The vast majority of mask wearing is performative nonsense.
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I mean, it's obvious.  Same with the airport bars/restaurants.  Stand there waiting to be seated, must wear a mask, get seated literally 3 feet from where you were standing, now you can take off your mask.  Even worse at the bar where people are standing shoulder to shoulder and whether you have a drink in your hand determines whether you need a mask on.  So glad the virus can keep track of who to spread to and who not to.  I actually heard all the Vegas casinos now have mask mandates, but you're allowed to take them off to smoke a cig.
Link Posted: 9/17/2021 9:05:27 AM EDT
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People need to stop flying. Starve the beast.

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The federal government will just bail them out with your money. I can't fly less than I do (hard to get less than zero), but it won't make a difference.
Link Posted: 9/17/2021 9:14:39 AM EDT
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Nearly 20 years as an airline Captain.  The shit people come up with is non stop.  The number of bad flight attendants to bad passengers is probably like 1/1000.

And my airline isn't kicking people off for not wearing a mask.
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Possibly.  However why do you believe the Airline immediately while questioning the Passenger?  Both have incentive to skew the narrative in their favor.


Nearly 20 years as an airline Captain.  The shit people come up with is non stop.  The number of bad flight attendants to bad passengers is probably like 1/1000.

And my airline isn't kicking people off for not wearing a mask.

I used to fly a lot.  Nowhere near as much as you probably do, but two to eight flights a week, every week, for years, so a lot more than most people.  I'd see crappy FAs every week, and it was not rare to see poorly-behaved argumentative incident-escalating FAs that needed to be kicked off flights.  But I have yet to see a passenger that needed to be kicked off a plane.  On the other hand, I never flew on Spirit.
Link Posted: 9/17/2021 9:18:12 AM EDT
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People need to stop flying. Starve the beast.

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This. I have zero inclination to fly these days.
Link Posted: 9/17/2021 1:01:57 PM EDT
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It is never correct to force a small child to wear a useless face covering.  WTH is wrong with some of you?
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Then don't agree to do it by buying a ticket on a mode of transportation that you know requires it.   I know for a fact that you have to click that you agree to the policy BEFORE it let's you purchase a seat on, at least, AA and Southwest.

WTH is wrong with you that you don't want to abide by very specific contracts you have entered into?


Also surprised so many would take their 2yr old with breathing issues up to 8000.' Sounds like child endangerment to me...if the infant was having an attack as the mother attests.
Link Posted: 9/17/2021 1:25:32 PM EDT
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Nearly 20 years as an airline Captain.  The shit people come up with is non stop.  The number of bad flight attendants to bad passengers is probably like 1/1000.

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So who is YOUR airline?  
Link Posted: 9/17/2021 1:56:11 PM EDT
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My first thought is to be outraged… than I realized that if she stated her child is having an asthma attack and can’t breathe the PIC (Captain) legally has the responsibility to declare a medical emergency and land at the nearest appropriate airport… I’m curious what the Captain’s explanation is.
Link Posted: 9/17/2021 2:20:06 PM EDT
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The tremendous ignorance of you GD basement dwelling neck beards is shining in full display in this thread...


Amanda Pendarvis, the mother, posted on her Instagram story a video of her son who was having an asthma attack and was refusing to put on his mask due to his inability to breathe properly.

A mother has alleged that an American Airlines flight attendant kicked her and her son off of a flight because the two-year-old could not wear a mask properly during an asthma attack.

I’ll spoil the ending: He had the plane turned around and has us escorted off to be met by police officers: WHY? Wait for it….. because my 2 year old was not properly wearing a mask…. Mind you, Way is asthmatic. We showed him a negative COVID test Way had yesterday. Told him he has asthma & has never worn a mask before. He did not care that this asthmatic child was literally hyperventilating.“
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You morons seriously think it would be prudent to continue this flight?  Do you guys think the cabin is pressurized to sea level or something?  If the kid is suffering from respiratory distress on the ground, do you really think taking off and increasing altitude is smart in any way?  You snowflakes are incredible.




“A spokesman from American Airlines confirmed to MarketWatch that AA Flight 1284 was returned to the gate, and that Pendarvis' party had to deplane for "refusing to comply with crew member instructions to remain seated while on an active taxiway and to wear face coverings securely over their nose and mouth." They were rebooked for another flight, and there were no fees associated with the rebooking, the airline said.

"After observing a minor in the party laying in the aisle and moving between seats on taxi out, our flight crew made multiple attempts to reinforce safety requirements," he continued. "While addressing the party, our crew also reminded the individuals in the party that federal directives require customers to wear a face covering at all times while on board unless actively eating or drinking."
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Again, y’all self proclaimed patriotic rambo tards that won’t ever do shit about a real problem, which this is not, are nuts if you seriously think any flight crew on any airline would continue this flight with this kind of activity, even before COVID.

By the accounts of both the airline and the mom, the right call was made to return to the gate.

You worthless internet keyboard warriors screaming for the end of a corporation employing 10’s of thousands of good hard working people, over a bullshit post by some snowflake ass mom, are no better than the fucking leftists like antifa or any other commie dipshit group with their cancel culture mouthy ass shit.
Link Posted: 9/17/2021 6:34:50 PM EDT
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My first thought is to be outraged… than I realized that if she stated her child is having an asthma attack and can’t breathe the PIC (Captain) legally has the responsibility to declare a medical emergency and land at the nearest appropriate airport… I’m curious what the Captain’s explanation is.
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That jet had not taken off yet and the airline says they were removed from the flight because neither would stay in their seats while the jet was taxing to the runway.
Link Posted: 9/17/2021 7:33:08 PM EDT
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It is never correct to force a small child to wear a useless face covering.  WTH is wrong with some of you?
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I'm not buyin' the passenger's story as told. I'm bettin' the crew handled this one correctly.

It is never correct to force a small child to wear a useless face covering.  WTH is wrong with some of you?

I've got no problem with that statement. Problem is that that wasn't the real problem. Why would any airline wilfully take a medical emergency occurring on the ground into flight? That's fucking stupid. If the kid was actually having an asthma attack and couldn't breathe then he needs to be taken to the hospital, not on an airplane ride. And what about the part of the story that claims the mother wasn't controlling her child and it was up walking around during taxi.

All these clues combined lead me to suspect we've got ourselves a good boot here.
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