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Posted: 1/1/2023 4:13:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Duh, Steven, if a women is desiring sexual pleasure she must by suffering from Hysteria and we must begin electroshock therapy at once! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: LOL You would be surprised how many women are into that. Not surprised at all. Its quite obvious there´s a lot of sick, broken people with serious mental problems from gender and body disphoria, self hate, mutilations, etc. Doesnt mean you should participate or encourage their disorder and self destructive tendencies. Submissive women have mental problems? Duh, Steven, if a women is desiring sexual pleasure she must by suffering from Hysteria and we must begin electroshock therapy at once!  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/1/2023 4:17:19 PM EDT
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I don’t really know who the guy is and he seems like a douche.
But, human trafficking has reached the level of paying for a Tinder hook up’s Uber ride to your place and she regrets what she did the next day. |
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Posted: 1/1/2023 4:18:35 PM EDT
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Believe All Women: Andrew Tate on why they got picked up.
TL:DR A dude called the embassy because his GF was on Instagram at Tate's house, she lied and said that she was kidnapped, so her boyfriend believed her and made the call....  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 1/1/2023 4:51:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My wife had 2 of her sisters and several of her friends stay over for New Years last night. They're finishing up brunch so I headed into the kitchen to ask what they liked about the movies or books since I figured most of them had either read or seen them. It was the sex and the tension created by the story. The "redemptive love storyline" question got me odd looks. Small group I guess, but 6 women aged 18-30 disagree with you. They also all agreed that the books/movies were garbage. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It’s not a good representation of a BDSM relationship because it wasn’t about a BDSM relationship. It was about a guy who used BDSM as a way to handle having physical relationships after going through severe physical and sexual abuse as a child, and about him finding a relationship that allowed him to overcome that trauma enough that he no longer needed to abuse women who looked like the mother who had allowed him to be abused and could trust a woman enough to be vulnerable with her. Women liked it for the redemptive love storyline, not because they fantasized about being beaten or identified with a character who enjoyed being beaten. The female character did not enjoy the pain at all and expressed that multiple times. The “hurrdurr but 50 SoG was so popular!!!” line almost 100% of the time comes from men who haven’t read the books and do not understand what they are speaking about. My wife had 2 of her sisters and several of her friends stay over for New Years last night. They're finishing up brunch so I headed into the kitchen to ask what they liked about the movies or books since I figured most of them had either read or seen them. It was the sex and the tension created by the story. The "redemptive love storyline" question got me odd looks. Small group I guess, but 6 women aged 18-30 disagree with you. They also all agreed that the books/movies were garbage. The tension is created by the redemption arc. Him fighting against what will save him. Her fighting against wanting that level of intensity. The sex is what it is: sex. It sells. There was a lot of it in those books, but the story set them aside from the rest of the erotica out there. Well, that and the fact that it was a super easy read, which meant that even those who weren’t avid readers could easily get through them and talk about them with their friends. Lord, I can’t believe I’m doing a literary analysis on erotica written on a 6th grade reading level. 
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Posted: 1/1/2023 5:06:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you not also ask them if they liked to be choked during sex? It’s for science, man. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It’s not a good representation of a BDSM relationship because it wasn’t about a BDSM relationship. It was about a guy who used BDSM as a way to handle having physical relationships after going through severe physical and sexual abuse as a child, and about him finding a relationship that allowed him to overcome that trauma enough that he no longer needed to abuse women who looked like the mother who had allowed him to be abused and could trust a woman enough to be vulnerable with her. Women liked it for the redemptive love storyline, not because they fantasized about being beaten or identified with a character who enjoyed being beaten. The female character did not enjoy the pain at all and expressed that multiple times. The “hurrdurr but 50 SoG was so popular!!!” line almost 100% of the time comes from men who haven’t read the books and do not understand what they are speaking about. My wife had 2 of her sisters and several of her friends stay over for New Years last night. They're finishing up brunch so I headed into the kitchen to ask what they liked about the movies or books since I figured most of them had either read or seen them. It was the sex and the tension created by the story. The "redemptive love storyline" question got me odd looks. Small group I guess, but 6 women aged 18-30 disagree with you. They also all agreed that the books/movies were garbage. Did you not also ask them if they liked to be choked during sex? It’s for science, man. Oh I didn't have to ask. They had a whole detailed conversation about it after that. I didn't listen to all of it but the general consensus is that light choking is ok as long as they can still breathe. Hitting is also good as long as it isn't to the point of leaving bruises. |
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Posted: 1/1/2023 5:11:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The tension is created by the redemption arc. Him fighting against what will save him. Her fighting against wanting that level of intensity. The sex is what it is: sex. It sells. There was a lot of it in those books, but the story set them aside from the rest of the erotica out there. Well, that and the fact that it was a super easy read, which meant that even those who weren't avid readers could easily get through them and talk about them with their friends. Lord, I can't believe I'm doing a literary analysis on erotica written on a 6th grade reading level. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's not a good representation of a BDSM relationship because it wasn't about a BDSM relationship. It was about a guy who used BDSM as a way to handle having physical relationships after going through severe physical and sexual abuse as a child, and about him finding a relationship that allowed him to overcome that trauma enough that he no longer needed to abuse women who looked like the mother who had allowed him to be abused and could trust a woman enough to be vulnerable with her. Women liked it for the redemptive love storyline, not because they fantasized about being beaten or identified with a character who enjoyed being beaten. The female character did not enjoy the pain at all and expressed that multiple times. The "hurrdurr but 50 SoG was so popular!!!" line almost 100% of the time comes from men who haven't read the books and do not understand what they are speaking about. My wife had 2 of her sisters and several of her friends stay over for New Years last night. They're finishing up brunch so I headed into the kitchen to ask what they liked about the movies or books since I figured most of them had either read or seen them. It was the sex and the tension created by the story. The "redemptive love storyline" question got me odd looks. Small group I guess, but 6 women aged 18-30 disagree with you. They also all agreed that the books/movies were garbage. The tension is created by the redemption arc. Him fighting against what will save him. Her fighting against wanting that level of intensity. The sex is what it is: sex. It sells. There was a lot of it in those books, but the story set them aside from the rest of the erotica out there. Well, that and the fact that it was a super easy read, which meant that even those who weren't avid readers could easily get through them and talk about them with their friends. Lord, I can't believe I'm doing a literary analysis on erotica written on a 6th grade reading level. I disagree. Tension Smension. What set it apart is that it hit on the 2 hottest buttons women are slavishly compelled by at the same time. 1, Being sexually dominated 2, Fixing him. |
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Posted: 1/1/2023 5:26:54 PM EDT
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Quoted: The tension is created by the redemption arc. Him fighting against what will save him. Her fighting against wanting that level of intensity. The sex is what it is: sex. It sells. There was a lot of it in those books, but the story set them aside from the rest of the erotica out there. Well, that and the fact that it was a super easy read, which meant that even those who weren’t avid readers could easily get through them and talk about them with their friends. Lord, I can’t believe I’m doing a literary analysis on erotica written on a 6th grade reading level. The story isn't what sets them apart. Literally all literotica directed at women is pretty similar archetypically.  “Women want their romance heroes to be like coconuts: hard and tough on the outside, but soft and sweet on the inside. But the hero’s sweet interior can’t be available to just anyone. Only the heroine gets to crack him open. The hero is granted free reign to be a badass with everyone else, as long as he’s tender and attentive with the heroine” (99). The authors continue by writing that once a woman finds a guy she likes, “the female brain then sets out on a mission to tame, heal, or soften the alpha hero’s wild heart.” You should check the book out.  Quoted: Oh I didn't have to ask. They had a whole detailed conversation about it after that. I didn't listen to all of it but the general consensus is that light choking is ok as long as they can still breathe. Hitting is also good as long as it isn't to the point of leaving bruises. Crazy, who'd have thought. |
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Posted: 1/1/2023 5:34:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The tension is created by the redemption arc. Him fighting against what will save him. Her fighting against wanting that level of intensity. The sex is what it is: sex. It sells. There was a lot of it in those books, but the story set them aside from the rest of the erotica out there. Well, that and the fact that it was a super easy read, which meant that even those who weren’t avid readers could easily get through them and talk about them with their friends. Lord, I can’t believe I’m doing a literary analysis on erotica written on a 6th grade reading level. Would you still have read it if he live in a single wide trailer, was flat broke, and drove a 20 year old pick up truck? |
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Posted: 1/1/2023 6:17:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So because something falls outside of (your) perceived comfort zone, anyone participating in it must have issues? Can’t people just have different dispositions and personalities? Think about your post if it was something like shooting firearms or jumping out of a plane. It would sound inane. You must be older, because choking is so common as to be mundane with anyone under 30. I’ll say it again, everyone has underlying issues they should probably address. That’s not unique to people who enjoy a good ol’ hand around the neck during sex. Is pulling hair okay in your book? Because that’s right up the block from Choking. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: LOL You would be surprised how many women are into that. Not surprised at all. Its quite obvious there´s a lot of sick, broken people with serious mental problems from gender and body disphoria, self hate, mutilations, etc. Doesnt mean you should participate or encourage their disorder and self destructive tendencies. Submissive women have mental problems? Ones who enjoy physical abuse almost always do. Same as the ones who enjoy being physically abusive. That goes for men too. But what’s physical abuse? Spanking? Choking? Hair pulling? Restraints? There’s a lot of wiggle room between gentle missionary for procreation & punching her in the mouth while her leg is in a bear trap. This crosses into that territory of “if you have to ask, you may want to speak to a therapist.” My definition? Choking, hitting hard enough to leave marks, hitting pretty much anywhere other than the backside, hair pulling hard enough to pull hair out or cause actual pain, and a lot of other stuff. If a person is into that and they find someone who is also into that, it’s whatever and they’re consenting adults. But that doesn’t mean there aren’t snakes in their heads. Most people should probably speak to a therapist, regardless. If choking is the line though, we have some big problems. “We” don’t. My husband has never expressed a desire to choke me or be choked, and I have never expressed a desire to choke him or be choked. If someone wants to choke people or be choked as part of some sexual kink they have, they have some underlying issues they probably need to address. If someone came to me and said “my spouse just choked the shit out me last night,” I’d probably ask them if they wanted me to call the cops or get them to a domestic violence shelter. If they said they liked it, I’d be of the opinion they needed to seek professional counseling. So because something falls outside of (your) perceived comfort zone, anyone participating in it must have issues? Can’t people just have different dispositions and personalities? Think about your post if it was something like shooting firearms or jumping out of a plane. It would sound inane. You must be older, because choking is so common as to be mundane with anyone under 30. I’ll say it again, everyone has underlying issues they should probably address. That’s not unique to people who enjoy a good ol’ hand around the neck during sex. Is pulling hair okay in your book? Because that’s right up the block from Choking. Man, I jumped in this thread hoping to get an update on the Tate thing, but ran into this... Anywho, not all people have severe psychological issues... For the longest I've said that 'Although women have the ability to enjoy sex, IMO, a lot of them do it more to: 1. Get a guy to want and/or love them; and/or, 2. To get "something" from a guy (money, pregnancy)'. Don't believe me? Then ask yourself why most marriages sex becomes an afterthought after a woman's got kids and her name on stuff with some guy? Why do women, after having sex in their teens, 20's, 30's and not settling down burn out and lose interest in sex? I mean, look at the 50 Shades movie - the girl in question really wasn't that pretty, so she tolerated his abusive sex cuz she was just happy some hot and rich guy wanted her. Dr. Laura handles these types of calls by asking people (mostly women): 'What did/do you think you are? Fat, Ugly and/or Unlovable?' Other instances of "proclivities" - not being of psychological issues? Some people are stronger outside of the bedroom, so in the bedroom they want someone else to be the lead... |
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Posted: 1/1/2023 6:39:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would you still have read it if he live in a single wide trailer, was flat broke, and drove a 20 year old pick up truck? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The tension is created by the redemption arc. Him fighting against what will save him. Her fighting against wanting that level of intensity. The sex is what it is: sex. It sells. There was a lot of it in those books, but the story set them aside from the rest of the erotica out there. Well, that and the fact that it was a super easy read, which meant that even those who weren’t avid readers could easily get through them and talk about them with their friends. Lord, I can’t believe I’m doing a literary analysis on erotica written on a 6th grade reading level. Would you still have read it if he live in a single wide trailer, was flat broke, and drove a 20 year old pick up truck? Sure. Why not? It definitely wasn’t top tier writing, but it was good for a couple hours entertainment. |
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Posted: 1/1/2023 7:11:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The tension is created by the redemption arc. Him fighting against what will save him. Her fighting against wanting that level of intensity. The sex is what it is: sex. It sells. There was a lot of it in those books, but the story set them aside from the rest of the erotica out there. Well, that and the fact that it was a super easy read, which meant that even those who weren’t avid readers could easily get through them and talk about them with their friends. Lord, I can’t believe I’m doing a literary analysis on erotica written on a 6th grade reading level. 
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Posted: 1/1/2023 7:12:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Man, I jumped in this thread hoping to get an update on the Tate thing, but ran into this... Anywho, not all people have severe psychological issues... For the longest I've said that 'Although women have the ability to enjoy sex, IMO, a lot of them do it more to: 1. Get a guy to want and/or love them; and/or, 2. To get "something" from a guy (money, pregnancy)'. Don't believe me? Then ask yourself why most marriages sex becomes an afterthought after a woman's got kids and her name on stuff with some guy? Why do women, after having sex in their teens, 20's, 30's and not settling down burn out and lose interest in sex? Alpha fucks, beta bucks. Genuine desire vs covert contract. A woman that stops having sex with her husband is a woman who lost or never had genuine desire for her husband. |
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Posted: 1/1/2023 7:19:33 PM EDT
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Romanian Lawyer Explains What Will Happen To Andrew Tate
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Posted: 1/1/2023 7:22:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The tension is created by the redemption arc. Him fighting against what will save him. Her fighting against wanting that level of intensity. The sex is what it is: sex. It sells. There was a lot of it in those books, but the story set them aside from the rest of the erotica out there. Well, that and the fact that it was a super easy read, which meant that even those who weren’t avid readers could easily get through them and talk about them with their friends. Lord, I can’t believe I’m doing a literary analysis on erotica written on a 6th grade reading level. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/giphyggt-462.gif Not written for 6th graders. Just at a reading level no more complex than books written for 6th graders. |
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Posted: 1/1/2023 7:27:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Romanian Lawyer Explains What Will Happen To Andrew Tate  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2O0ULodhZAoh, interesting. So Tate will go from being an internet pimp to being someone´s bitch in prison. 
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Posted: 1/1/2023 7:28:59 PM EDT
[#16]
 Andrew Tate's Final Words During Arrest |
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Posted: 1/1/2023 7:38:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sure. Why not? It definitely wasn’t top tier writing, but it was good for a couple hours entertainment. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The tension is created by the redemption arc. Him fighting against what will save him. Her fighting against wanting that level of intensity. The sex is what it is: sex. It sells. There was a lot of it in those books, but the story set them aside from the rest of the erotica out there. Well, that and the fact that it was a super easy read, which meant that even those who weren’t avid readers could easily get through them and talk about them with their friends. Lord, I can’t believe I’m doing a literary analysis on erotica written on a 6th grade reading level. Would you still have read it if he live in a single wide trailer, was flat broke, and drove a 20 year old pick up truck? Sure. Why not? It definitely wasn’t top tier writing, but it was good for a couple hours entertainment. Well, it's a story about love, deception, greed, lust, and unbridled enthusiasm. That's what led to Christian Grey’s downfall. You see, Christian was a simple country boy, you might say a cockeyed optimist, who got himself mixed up in the high-stakes game of world diplomacy and international intrigue. |
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Posted: 1/1/2023 7:50:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, it's a story about love, deception, greed, lust, and unbridled enthusiasm. That's what led to Christian Grey’s downfall. You see, Christian was a simple country boy, you might say a cockeyed optimist, who got himself mixed up in the high-stakes game of world diplomacy and international intrigue. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The tension is created by the redemption arc. Him fighting against what will save him. Her fighting against wanting that level of intensity. The sex is what it is: sex. It sells. There was a lot of it in those books, but the story set them aside from the rest of the erotica out there. Well, that and the fact that it was a super easy read, which meant that even those who weren’t avid readers could easily get through them and talk about them with their friends. Lord, I can’t believe I’m doing a literary analysis on erotica written on a 6th grade reading level. Would you still have read it if he live in a single wide trailer, was flat broke, and drove a 20 year old pick up truck? Sure. Why not? It definitely wasn’t top tier writing, but it was good for a couple hours entertainment. Well, it's a story about love, deception, greed, lust, and unbridled enthusiasm. That's what led to Christian Grey’s downfall. You see, Christian was a simple country boy, you might say a cockeyed optimist, who got himself mixed up in the high-stakes game of world diplomacy and international intrigue.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/1/2023 7:52:58 PM EDT
[#19]
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Posted: 1/1/2023 9:37:15 PM EDT
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I'm starting to get Marion Barry vibes
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Posted: 1/1/2023 10:07:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: oh, interesting. So Tate will go from being an internet pimp to being someone´s bitch in prison. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Romanian Lawyer Explains What Will Happen To Andrew Tate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2O0ULodhZAoh, interesting. So Tate will go from being an internet pimp to being someone´s bitch in prison. Yeah I doubt thats what's going to happen. |
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Posted: 1/1/2023 10:31:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The story isn't what sets them apart. Literally all literotica directed at women is pretty similar archetypically. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/275845/ten-most-common-hero-professions-2656890.jpg You should check the book out. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/275845/9781101514986_p0_v2_s1200x630-2656887.jpg Crazy, who'd have thought. Shortly before we divorced, I noticed my wife was reading a bit more than usual on her Kindle. One day I decided to see what she was reading. It was a dirty romance series about a woman who 'tames' a bad-boy billionaire cowboy/rancher or some such bullshit. I can't remember what it was called, but I read a few pages of it, and it was...terrible. Like, the worst-written, most vain, most superficial crap I've ever read.
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Posted: 1/1/2023 11:05:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you're going to quote the DSM-5, know how the DSM-5 works. please expound? Algolagnic disorder (sexual sadism) is a class of paraphilic disorders. A person can have multiple paraphilic disorders. Diagnosis is dependent on the provider, and the criteria used for that diagnosis depends on the providers judgement and the type. |
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Posted: 1/1/2023 11:30:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: please expound? Algolagnic disorder (sexual sadism) is a class of paraphilic disorders. A person can have multiple paraphilic disorders. Diagnosis is dependent on the provider, and the criteria used for that diagnosis depends on the providers judgement and the type. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you're going to quote the DSM-5, know how the DSM-5 works. please expound? Algolagnic disorder (sexual sadism) is a class of paraphilic disorders. A person can have multiple paraphilic disorders. Diagnosis is dependent on the provider, and the criteria used for that diagnosis depends on the providers judgement and the type. Because there is a specific diagnostic threshold which must be met in order to diagnose it as a disorder. The behaviors alone are not enough to meet that threshold. |
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Posted: 1/1/2023 11:32:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because there is a specific diagnostic threshold which must be met in order to diagnose it as a disorder. The behaviors alone are not enough to meet that threshold. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you're going to quote the DSM-5, know how the DSM-5 works. please expound? Algolagnic disorder (sexual sadism) is a class of paraphilic disorders. A person can have multiple paraphilic disorders. Diagnosis is dependent on the provider, and the criteria used for that diagnosis depends on the providers judgement and the type. Because there is a specific diagnostic threshold which must be met in order to diagnose it as a disorder. The behaviors alone are not enough to meet that threshold. And yet, still a giant frickin red flag that there’s a whole est of snakes in someone’s head. |
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Posted: 1/1/2023 11:34:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And yet, still a giant frickin red flag that there’s a whole est of snakes in someone’s head. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you're going to quote the DSM-5, know how the DSM-5 works. please expound? Algolagnic disorder (sexual sadism) is a class of paraphilic disorders. A person can have multiple paraphilic disorders. Diagnosis is dependent on the provider, and the criteria used for that diagnosis depends on the providers judgement and the type. Because there is a specific diagnostic threshold which must be met in order to diagnose it as a disorder. The behaviors alone are not enough to meet that threshold. And yet, still a giant frickin red flag that there’s a whole est of snakes in someone’s head. Everyone has snakes in their head. |
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Posted: 1/2/2023 12:09:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because there is a specific diagnostic threshold which must be met in order to diagnose it as a disorder. The behaviors alone are not enough to meet that threshold. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you're going to quote the DSM-5, know how the DSM-5 works. please expound? Algolagnic disorder (sexual sadism) is a class of paraphilic disorders. A person can have multiple paraphilic disorders. Diagnosis is dependent on the provider, and the criteria used for that diagnosis depends on the providers judgement and the type. Because there is a specific diagnostic threshold which must be met in order to diagnose it as a disorder. The behaviors alone are not enough to meet that threshold. Fair But, Lets not forget that tape cost him a job, he's had a previous investigation for sex crimes, and he's sitting in a Romanian Prison on charges related to consent. Diagnosis by social media? No, but, suspicious Im standing with my previous statement that if beating a woman with a belt gets you an erection, you should talk to a professional. The DSM-5 is just a guide technically, diagnosis is done by the provider. |
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Posted: 1/2/2023 12:15:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone has snakes in their head. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you're going to quote the DSM-5, know how the DSM-5 works. please expound? Algolagnic disorder (sexual sadism) is a class of paraphilic disorders. A person can have multiple paraphilic disorders. Diagnosis is dependent on the provider, and the criteria used for that diagnosis depends on the providers judgement and the type. Because there is a specific diagnostic threshold which must be met in order to diagnose it as a disorder. The behaviors alone are not enough to meet that threshold. And yet, still a giant frickin red flag that there’s a whole est of snakes in someone’s head. Everyone has snakes in their head. And some of them are just waiting for a diagnosis. The ones that involve violence often fall into that category. |
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Posted: 1/2/2023 12:16:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fair But, Lets not forget that tape cost him a job, he's had a previous investigation for sex crimes, and he's sitting in a Romanian Prison on charges related to consent. Diagnosis by social media? No, but, suspicious Im standing with my previous statement that if beating a woman with a belt gets you an erection, you should talk to a professional. The DSM-5 is just a guide technically, diagnosis is done by the provider. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you're going to quote the DSM-5, know how the DSM-5 works. please expound? Algolagnic disorder (sexual sadism) is a class of paraphilic disorders. A person can have multiple paraphilic disorders. Diagnosis is dependent on the provider, and the criteria used for that diagnosis depends on the providers judgement and the type. Because there is a specific diagnostic threshold which must be met in order to diagnose it as a disorder. The behaviors alone are not enough to meet that threshold. Fair But, Lets not forget that tape cost him a job, he's had a previous investigation for sex crimes, and he's sitting in a Romanian Prison on charges related to consent. Diagnosis by social media? No, but, suspicious Im standing with my previous statement that if beating a woman with a belt gets you an erection, you should talk to a professional. The DSM-5 is just a guide technically, diagnosis is done by the provider. A better statement would be if beating a woman with a belt is the only way you get an erection, you should talk to a professional. |
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Posted: 1/2/2023 12:17:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And some of them are just waiting for a diagnosis. The ones that involve violence often fall into that category. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you're going to quote the DSM-5, know how the DSM-5 works. please expound? Algolagnic disorder (sexual sadism) is a class of paraphilic disorders. A person can have multiple paraphilic disorders. Diagnosis is dependent on the provider, and the criteria used for that diagnosis depends on the providers judgement and the type. Because there is a specific diagnostic threshold which must be met in order to diagnose it as a disorder. The behaviors alone are not enough to meet that threshold. And yet, still a giant frickin red flag that there’s a whole est of snakes in someone’s head. Everyone has snakes in their head. And some of them are just waiting for a diagnosis. The ones that involve violence often fall into that category. You could very easily make the case that every single human interaction either outwardly or indirectly involves the presence of violence. |
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Posted: 1/2/2023 12:27:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A better statement would be if beating a woman with a belt is the only way you get an erection, you should talk to a professional. maybe I'd wager most doctors would very happily hand you a psych referral if you said you got an erection from beating someone with a belt. you're talking diagnosis, I'm talking evaluation. |
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Posted: 1/2/2023 12:36:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: maybe I'd wager most doctors would very happily hand you a psych referral if you said you got an erection from beating someone with a belt. you're talking diagnosis, I'm talking evaluation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A better statement would be if beating a woman with a belt is the only way you get an erection, you should talk to a professional. maybe I'd wager most doctors would very happily hand you a psych referral if you said you got an erection from beating someone with a belt. you're talking diagnosis, I'm talking evaluation. Primarily because the bringing it up to the doctor would display a level of concern from the patient to even bring it up to the first place. As I’ve stated multiple times, just about everyone would probably benefit by talking to a psych, not just those who engage in mutual acts of things like spanking, which you also keep framing incorrectly. Hitting someone with an object just isn’t about (you) getting off, but actually causing arousal and pleasure via pain for your partner as well. This would technically be considered hyperdominance, which is clearly differentiated from sexual sadism or paraphilic disorders. Simulated is the key point here. It’s as close to sadism disorder as rape fantasies are to actual rape. |
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Posted: 1/2/2023 12:44:52 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Primarily because the bringing it up to the doctor would display a level of concern from the patient to even bring it up to the first place. As I've stated multiple times, just about everyone would probably benefit by talking to a psych, not just those who engage in mutual acts of things like spanking, which you also keep framing incorrectly. Hitting someone with an object just isn't about (you) getting off, but actually causing arousal and pleasure via pain for your partner as well. This would technically be considered hyperdominance, which is clearly differentiated from sexual sadism or paraphilic disorders. Simulated is the key point here. It's as close to sadism disorder as rape fantasies are to actual rape. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: A better statement would be if beating a woman with a belt is the only way you get an erection, you should talk to a professional. maybe I'd wager most doctors would very happily hand you a psych referral if you said you got an erection from beating someone with a belt. you're talking diagnosis, I'm talking evaluation. Primarily because the bringing it up to the doctor would display a level of concern from the patient to even bring it up to the first place. As I've stated multiple times, just about everyone would probably benefit by talking to a psych, not just those who engage in mutual acts of things like spanking, which you also keep framing incorrectly. Hitting someone with an object just isn't about (you) getting off, but actually causing arousal and pleasure via pain for your partner as well. This would technically be considered hyperdominance, which is clearly differentiated from sexual sadism or paraphilic disorders. Simulated is the key point here. It's as close to sadism disorder as rape fantasies are to actual rape. We're arguing past each other. I said, and have said "beat" not hit. I said talk to, not diagnose. I don't think I've brought up spanking or framed it in any context. Sarcastically, after a straw man argument if that's what you're referring to? Even had a gif I think beating with a belt rises to the level of risking doing physical damage. I think most rational people would agree. I'd even wager it would be considered a "Good Shoot" to defend against someone with a belt or leather strap. As best I can tell, you're saying everyone should talk to a psychiatrist, but you also shouldn't talk to a doctor about talking to a psychiatrist. |
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Posted: 1/2/2023 12:49:07 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We're arguing past each other. I said, and have said "beat" not hit. I said talk to, not diagnose. I don't think I've brought up spanking or framed it in any context. Sarcastically, after a straw man if that's what you're referring to? Even had a gif Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A better statement would be if beating a woman with a belt is the only way you get an erection, you should talk to a professional. maybe I'd wager most doctors would very happily hand you a psych referral if you said you got an erection from beating someone with a belt. you're talking diagnosis, I'm talking evaluation. Primarily because the bringing it up to the doctor would display a level of concern from the patient to even bring it up to the first place. As I've stated multiple times, just about everyone would probably benefit by talking to a psych, not just those who engage in mutual acts of things like spanking, which you also keep framing incorrectly. Hitting someone with an object just isn't about (you) getting off, but actually causing arousal and pleasure via pain for your partner as well. This would technically be considered hyperdominance, which is clearly differentiated from sexual sadism or paraphilic disorders. Simulated is the key point here. It's as close to sadism disorder as rape fantasies are to actual rape. We're arguing past each other. I said, and have said "beat" not hit. I said talk to, not diagnose. I don't think I've brought up spanking or framed it in any context. Sarcastically, after a straw man if that's what you're referring to? Even had a gif Beat could mean any number of things. Realistically it’s just repeatedly hitting. Me pointing out that you’re not even in the ballpark of diagnosis is to display how meaningless you stating “talk to” someone is. That statement literally means nothing, unless it’s a path to a diagnoses. Your repeated failure to make a coherent point while continuing to just spam meaningless platitudes doesn’t mean that I’m strawmanning you, it just means that your argument is terrible. |
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Posted: 1/2/2023 1:02:26 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Beat could mean any number of things. Realistically it's just repeatedly hitting. Me pointing out that you're not even in the ballpark of diagnosis is to display how meaningless you stating "talk to" someone is. That statement literally means nothing, unless it's a path to a diagnoses. Your repeated failure to make a coherent point while continuing to just spam meaningless platitudes doesn't mean that I'm strawmanning you, it just means that your argument is terrible. -"beat" and "hit" mean different things, correct -Talking to a professional is about much more than diagnosis. If all you get from a doctor or psychiatrist is a diagnosis you need a new one. A diagnosis is one step along a path. The DSM-5 guides diagnosis, it does not and cannot diagnose. -Spam what? What platitude? You have absolutely Strawmanned, but that's the nature of GD. I don't mind. It's all but impossible not to in this format. Also, I wasn't referring to you in this conversation, it was StevenH I believe about slapping my wife's ass. Edit: here, only time I've brought up slapping.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/2/2023 1:08:59 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s not a good representation of a BDSM relationship because it wasn’t about a BDSM relationship. It was about a guy who used BDSM as a way to handle having physical relationships after going through severe physical and sexual abuse as a child, and about him finding a relationship that allowed him to overcome that trauma enough that he no longer needed to abuse women who looked like the mother who had allowed him to be abused and could trust a woman enough to be vulnerable with her. Women liked it for the redemptive love storyline, not because they fantasized about being beaten or identified with a character who enjoyed being beaten. The female character did not enjoy the pain at all and expressed that multiple times. The “hurrdurr but 50 SoG was so popular!!!” line almost 100% of the time comes from men who haven’t read the books and do not understand what they are speaking about. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You realize 50 shades of grey was one of the best selling books of all time, right? If I recall correctly, she even calls him a pussy for not hitting her harder, in the video. BDSM is just about control, comfort, and exploring power dynamics in a safe environment. Not everyone who does it is a mental case. Over 62% of women have experienced rape fantasies. If you find that belt video concerning, you should look up consent non consent. HAHHAHAA!!!!! Dude  You do realize that 50 shades of Gay was written by a desperate 50 year old wine at 5 PM hag. 50 shades is the fantasy of a LOSER. A rich sexy young guy gives you a Macbook so you cream your panties?  https://globalnews.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/eljames.jpg?quality=85&strip=all Twilight also sold millions of books, still shit. It’s not about who wrote it, it’s about who read it. Soooo…did you? I can tell you what it’s not about. It’s not about a woman enjoying, liking, wanting, or fantasizing about getting beaten. No, I did not in full, and from what I’ve seen from the actual book it isn’t exactly the best representation of (actual) BDSM and was largely lacking in some areas (particularly aftercare). But a lot of women I’ve been around, especially when it was at its peak, were huge fans., It’s not a good representation of a BDSM relationship because it wasn’t about a BDSM relationship. It was about a guy who used BDSM as a way to handle having physical relationships after going through severe physical and sexual abuse as a child, and about him finding a relationship that allowed him to overcome that trauma enough that he no longer needed to abuse women who looked like the mother who had allowed him to be abused and could trust a woman enough to be vulnerable with her. Women liked it for the redemptive love storyline, not because they fantasized about being beaten or identified with a character who enjoyed being beaten. The female character did not enjoy the pain at all and expressed that multiple times. The “hurrdurr but 50 SoG was so popular!!!” line almost 100% of the time comes from men who haven’t read the books and do not understand what they are speaking about. A friend of mine called it something like, "I think this is porn for moms. Idk it was just weird to me." 
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Posted: 1/2/2023 1:11:39 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: -"beat" and "hit" mean different things, correct -Talking to a professional is about much more than diagnosis. If all you get from a doctor or psychiatrist is a diagnosis you need a new one. A diagnosis is one step along a path. The DSM-5 guides diagnosis, it does not and cannot diagnose. -Spam what? What platitude? You have absolutely Strawmanned, but that's the nature of GD. I don't mind. It's all but impossible not to in this format. Also, I wasn't referring to you in this conversation, it was StevenH I believe about slapping my wife's ass. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Beat could mean any number of things. Realistically it's just repeatedly hitting. Me pointing out that you're not even in the ballpark of diagnosis is to display how meaningless you stating "talk to" someone is. That statement literally means nothing, unless it's a path to a diagnoses. Your repeated failure to make a coherent point while continuing to just spam meaningless platitudes doesn't mean that I'm strawmanning you, it just means that your argument is terrible. -"beat" and "hit" mean different things, correct -Talking to a professional is about much more than diagnosis. If all you get from a doctor or psychiatrist is a diagnosis you need a new one. A diagnosis is one step along a path. The DSM-5 guides diagnosis, it does not and cannot diagnose. -Spam what? What platitude? You have absolutely Strawmanned, but that's the nature of GD. I don't mind. It's all but impossible not to in this format. Also, I wasn't referring to you in this conversation, it was StevenH I believe about slapping my wife's ass. You don’t even know what a strawman is; a strawman is taking an argument and reducing it to a caricature of what it originally was, intentionally misrepresenting it to make it easier to content with. It would be impossible for me to make a more reductionist and ill defined argument that what you’ve been representing in this thread. If anything, I’m doing the complete opposite by steelmanning your argument and engaging with it at a higher level. You are clearly out of your depth on this entire conversation, so you keep resorting back to meaningless statements. You reference information which clearly contradicts the points you’re trying to make, then walk it back poorly not realizing that you’ve already defeated your own argument. How do you think the therapist conversation would even go: A: So my wife and I, when we’re in the bedroom, I really like to hit her with a belt. T: Without consent? A: No of course with consent. T: But she doesn’t like it? A: No, she actually loves it, she wants me to hit her harder. T: And this makes you uncomfortable? A: No I love it, our sex life has never been better T: Is this the only way you can get off? A: No, it’s just one of the many things we do to keep it fresh in the bedroom T: Is this having any affect in other parts of your life? A: Nope. T: …. 
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Posted: 1/2/2023 1:16:44 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You don't even know what a strawman is; a strawman is taking an argument and reducing it to a caricature of what it originally was, intentionally misrepresenting it to make it easier to content with. It would be impossible for me to make a more reductionist and ill defined argument that what you've been representing in this thread. If anything, I'm doing the complete opposite by steelmanning your argument and engaging with it at a higher level. You are clearly out of your depth on this entire conversation, so you keep resorting back to meaningless statements. You reference information which clearly contradicts the points you're trying to make, then walk it back poorly not realizing that you've already defeated your own argument. How do you think the therapist conversation would even go: A: So my wife and I, when we're in the bedroom, I really like to hit her with a belt. T: Without consent? A: No of course with consent. T: But she doesn't like it? A: No, she actually loves it, she wants me to hit her harder. T: And this makes you uncomfortable? A: No I love it, our sex life has never been better T: Is this the only way you can get off? A: No, it's just one of the many things we do to keep it fresh in the bedroom T: Is this having any affect in other parts of your life? A: Nope. T: . https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/275845/6B5925B8-1F8A-482A-956C-6FCD19C94AF3-2657479.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Beat could mean any number of things. Realistically it's just repeatedly hitting. Me pointing out that you're not even in the ballpark of diagnosis is to display how meaningless you stating "talk to" someone is. That statement literally means nothing, unless it's a path to a diagnoses. Your repeated failure to make a coherent point while continuing to just spam meaningless platitudes doesn't mean that I'm strawmanning you, it just means that your argument is terrible. -"beat" and "hit" mean different things, correct -Talking to a professional is about much more than diagnosis. If all you get from a doctor or psychiatrist is a diagnosis you need a new one. A diagnosis is one step along a path. The DSM-5 guides diagnosis, it does not and cannot diagnose. -Spam what? What platitude? You have absolutely Strawmanned, but that's the nature of GD. I don't mind. It's all but impossible not to in this format. Also, I wasn't referring to you in this conversation, it was StevenH I believe about slapping my wife's ass. You don't even know what a strawman is; a strawman is taking an argument and reducing it to a caricature of what it originally was, intentionally misrepresenting it to make it easier to content with. It would be impossible for me to make a more reductionist and ill defined argument that what you've been representing in this thread. If anything, I'm doing the complete opposite by steelmanning your argument and engaging with it at a higher level. You are clearly out of your depth on this entire conversation, so you keep resorting back to meaningless statements. You reference information which clearly contradicts the points you're trying to make, then walk it back poorly not realizing that you've already defeated your own argument. How do you think the therapist conversation would even go: A: So my wife and I, when we're in the bedroom, I really like to hit her with a belt. T: Without consent? A: No of course with consent. T: But she doesn't like it? A: No, she actually loves it, she wants me to hit her harder. T: And this makes you uncomfortable? A: No I love it, our sex life has never been better T: Is this the only way you can get off? A: No, it's just one of the many things we do to keep it fresh in the bedroom T: Is this having any affect in other parts of your life? A: Nope. T: . https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/275845/6B5925B8-1F8A-482A-956C-6FCD19C94AF3-2657479.jpg cool, got it lets go reductionist then. Help a dumb out I think if a person beats a woman with a belt to get an hard on they should talk to a professional. You think everyone should talk to a professional, except men who beat women with belts because that doesn't meat diagnostic criteria in a guide. Basic enough? |
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Posted: 1/2/2023 1:17:20 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Man, I jumped in this thread hoping to get an update on the Tate thing, but ran into this... Anywho, not all people have severe psychological issues... For the longest I've said that 'Although women have the ability to enjoy sex, IMO, a lot of them do it more to: 1. Get a guy to want and/or love them; and/or, 2. To get "something" from a guy (money, pregnancy)'. Don't believe me? Then ask yourself why most marriages sex becomes an afterthought after a woman's got kids and her name on stuff with some guy? Why do women, after having sex in their teens, 20's, 30's and not settling down burn out and lose interest in sex? I mean, look at the 50 Shades movie - the girl in question really wasn't that pretty, so she tolerated his abusive sex cuz she was just happy some hot and rich guy wanted her. Dr. Laura handles these types of calls by asking people (mostly women): 'What did/do you think you are? Fat, Ugly and/or Unlovable?' Other instances of "proclivities" - not being of psychological issues? Some people are stronger outside of the bedroom, so in the bedroom they want someone else to be the lead... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: LOL You would be surprised how many women are into that. Not surprised at all. Its quite obvious there´s a lot of sick, broken people with serious mental problems from gender and body disphoria, self hate, mutilations, etc. Doesnt mean you should participate or encourage their disorder and self destructive tendencies. Submissive women have mental problems? Ones who enjoy physical abuse almost always do. Same as the ones who enjoy being physically abusive. That goes for men too. But what’s physical abuse? Spanking? Choking? Hair pulling? Restraints? There’s a lot of wiggle room between gentle missionary for procreation & punching her in the mouth while her leg is in a bear trap. This crosses into that territory of “if you have to ask, you may want to speak to a therapist.” My definition? Choking, hitting hard enough to leave marks, hitting pretty much anywhere other than the backside, hair pulling hard enough to pull hair out or cause actual pain, and a lot of other stuff. If a person is into that and they find someone who is also into that, it’s whatever and they’re consenting adults. But that doesn’t mean there aren’t snakes in their heads. Most people should probably speak to a therapist, regardless. If choking is the line though, we have some big problems. “We” don’t. My husband has never expressed a desire to choke me or be choked, and I have never expressed a desire to choke him or be choked. If someone wants to choke people or be choked as part of some sexual kink they have, they have some underlying issues they probably need to address. If someone came to me and said “my spouse just choked the shit out me last night,” I’d probably ask them if they wanted me to call the cops or get them to a domestic violence shelter. If they said they liked it, I’d be of the opinion they needed to seek professional counseling. So because something falls outside of (your) perceived comfort zone, anyone participating in it must have issues? Can’t people just have different dispositions and personalities? Think about your post if it was something like shooting firearms or jumping out of a plane. It would sound inane. You must be older, because choking is so common as to be mundane with anyone under 30. I’ll say it again, everyone has underlying issues they should probably address. That’s not unique to people who enjoy a good ol’ hand around the neck during sex. Is pulling hair okay in your book? Because that’s right up the block from Choking. Man, I jumped in this thread hoping to get an update on the Tate thing, but ran into this... Anywho, not all people have severe psychological issues... For the longest I've said that 'Although women have the ability to enjoy sex, IMO, a lot of them do it more to: 1. Get a guy to want and/or love them; and/or, 2. To get "something" from a guy (money, pregnancy)'. Don't believe me? Then ask yourself why most marriages sex becomes an afterthought after a woman's got kids and her name on stuff with some guy? Why do women, after having sex in their teens, 20's, 30's and not settling down burn out and lose interest in sex? I mean, look at the 50 Shades movie - the girl in question really wasn't that pretty, so she tolerated his abusive sex cuz she was just happy some hot and rich guy wanted her. Dr. Laura handles these types of calls by asking people (mostly women): 'What did/do you think you are? Fat, Ugly and/or Unlovable?' Other instances of "proclivities" - not being of psychological issues? Some people are stronger outside of the bedroom, so in the bedroom they want someone else to be the lead... An ex of mine was (and still is) a total flamethrower I think her agreeableness was in the 20s maybe? The "alpha female" type. When she's being feisty, she can be impossible.  In the bedroom, she wants to be consensually "put in her place" (her words) Nothing makes her happier. I'm not into the UFC-in-the-bedroom thing so I didn't do that, that's not for me, She likes to be held at 9,000 rpms until the engine can't take it. It worked for her I enjoyed it too lmao |
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Posted: 1/2/2023 1:25:04 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: cool, got it lets go reductionist then. Help a dumb out I think if a person beats a woman with a belt to get an hard on they should talk to a professional. You think everyone should talk to a professional, except men who beat women with belts because that doesn't meat diagnostic criteria in a guide. Basic enough? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Beat could mean any number of things. Realistically it's just repeatedly hitting. Me pointing out that you're not even in the ballpark of diagnosis is to display how meaningless you stating "talk to" someone is. That statement literally means nothing, unless it's a path to a diagnoses. Your repeated failure to make a coherent point while continuing to just spam meaningless platitudes doesn't mean that I'm strawmanning you, it just means that your argument is terrible. -"beat" and "hit" mean different things, correct -Talking to a professional is about much more than diagnosis. If all you get from a doctor or psychiatrist is a diagnosis you need a new one. A diagnosis is one step along a path. The DSM-5 guides diagnosis, it does not and cannot diagnose. -Spam what? What platitude? You have absolutely Strawmanned, but that's the nature of GD. I don't mind. It's all but impossible not to in this format. Also, I wasn't referring to you in this conversation, it was StevenH I believe about slapping my wife's ass. You don't even know what a strawman is; a strawman is taking an argument and reducing it to a caricature of what it originally was, intentionally misrepresenting it to make it easier to content with. It would be impossible for me to make a more reductionist and ill defined argument that what you've been representing in this thread. If anything, I'm doing the complete opposite by steelmanning your argument and engaging with it at a higher level. You are clearly out of your depth on this entire conversation, so you keep resorting back to meaningless statements. You reference information which clearly contradicts the points you're trying to make, then walk it back poorly not realizing that you've already defeated your own argument. How do you think the therapist conversation would even go: A: So my wife and I, when we're in the bedroom, I really like to hit her with a belt. T: Without consent? A: No of course with consent. T: But she doesn't like it? A: No, she actually loves it, she wants me to hit her harder. T: And this makes you uncomfortable? A: No I love it, our sex life has never been better T: Is this the only way you can get off? A: No, it's just one of the many things we do to keep it fresh in the bedroom T: Is this having any affect in other parts of your life? A: Nope. T: . https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/275845/6B5925B8-1F8A-482A-956C-6FCD19C94AF3-2657479.jpg cool, got it lets go reductionist then. Help a dumb out I think if a person beats a woman with a belt to get an hard on they should talk to a professional. You think everyone should talk to a professional, except men who beat women with belts because that doesn't meat diagnostic criteria in a guide. Basic enough? No because you’re normatively loading phrases. I think someone who need to beat a woman with a belt to get a hard on should probably talk to someone. I don’t think that someone who consensually engages in simulated acts with a partner to stimulate pleasure through pain be it their hands, belts, whips, chains, ropes, or other tools should go speak to a professional any more so than anyone should go speak to a professional. But they would probably benefit from so, just as anyone else would probably benefit. |
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Posted: 1/2/2023 1:49:06 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No because you're normatively loading phrases. I think someone who need to beat a woman with a belt to get a hard on should probably talk to someone. I don't think that someone who consensually engages in simulated acts with a partner to stimulate pleasure through pain be it their hands, belts, whips, chains, ropes, or other tools should go speak to a professional any more so than anyone should go speak to a professional. But they would probably benefit from so, just as anyone else would probably benefit. cool so, we're agreed that a person who beats a person with a belt for sexual gratification would probably benefit from psychiatric help. Either because they have a diagnosable disorder, or getting help is a good in general. edit: removed the rest. There's no need |
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Posted: 1/2/2023 5:20:42 AM EDT
[#42]
Bunch of Ned's in this thread.
How we go from Tate to everyone whos into BASIC kinks needs therapy  |
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Posted: 1/2/2023 6:17:15 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So because something falls outside of (your) perceived comfort zone, anyone participating in it must have issues? Can’t people just have different dispositions and personalities? Think about your post if it was something like shooting firearms or jumping out of a plane. It would sound inane. You must be older, because choking is so common as to be mundane with anyone under 30. I’ll say it again, everyone has underlying issues they should probably address. That’s not unique to people who enjoy a good ol’ hand around the neck during sex. Is pulling hair okay in your book? Because that’s right up the block from Choking. She is a GDer after all. “Stop liking what I don’t like” |
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Posted: 1/2/2023 8:15:59 AM EDT
[#44]
What I’ve learned in this thread: there are quite a few members who almost certainly like causing their lovers/sexual partners pain (or having those people inflict pain on them), and they don’t want others to point out that it’s weird, likely indicative of potential psych issues, and definitely a red flag. There is a not insignificant overlap between those people and the ones who seem to post about difficulties in finding/securing long term relationships.
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Posted: 1/2/2023 8:24:05 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What I’ve learned in this thread: there are quite a few members who almost certainly like causing their lovers/sexual partners pain (or having those people inflict pain on them), and they don’t want others to point out that it’s weird, likely indicative of potential psych issues, and definitely a red flag. There is a not insignificant overlap between those people and the ones who seem to post about difficulties in finding/securing long term relationships. Lots of chicks like to be choked, spanked, have their hair pulled, wrists pinned down etc. They are all crazy but are no crazier than girls that aren’t into that stuff. |
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Posted: 1/2/2023 8:28:38 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What I’ve learned in this thread: there are quite a few members who almost certainly like causing their lovers/sexual partners pain (or having those people inflict pain on them), and they don’t want others to point out that it’s weird, likely indicative of potential psych issues, and definitely a red flag. There is a not insignificant overlap between those people and the ones who seem to post about difficulties in finding/securing long term relationships. Not something I'm into, but it's something that's common enough that it's absurd to assume that people who are into it are sex/human traffickers. Back to the thread, it appears we are now waiting for the trial in order to see evidence of the allegations... |
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Posted: 1/2/2023 11:13:21 AM EDT
[#47]
Allegedly the money laundering charges are due to the police allegedly finding 10 million Euros in cash at one of the raided properties...
The guy who's claimed he runs casinos for Romanian organized crime is allegedly money laundering - who could've guessed???  Quote HistoryQuoted: Seen a bunch of his stuff. Tate told his subscribers what globohomo was up to. Which is matching what a lot of people are seeing. Especially young men. And that really pissed off feminists, the woke left, simps, bankers, corporations, the deep state and a bunch of other people. Who then cancelled him, just like Stephan Molyneux, J.K Rowling, etc. He just didn’t have the good graces to shut up and stay cancelled. So globohomo is amping it up with legal harassment and false charges. Just like they did with Trump and Kavanaugh. And attaching all the dog whistle words that shut down the thinking side of peoples brains, and turn on the emotional reacting side. Which if you read the last 7 pages of this thread you can spot the hysterical purse swingers. Bet you those same people were calling for “lock me down harder baby” during COVID. And people still will think he’s the problem.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/2/2023 11:18:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/2/2023 11:24:03 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a great term. Not nearly as bad as someone who gargles the msm misinformation force fed to the. Are you a globohomo sympathizer? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Do you understand what using the term "globohomo" makes you look like? It's a great term. Not nearly as bad as someone who gargles the msm misinformation force fed to the. Are you a globohomo sympathizer?  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/2/2023 11:26:20 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yea these gals will surprise ya. I swear some of our posters have only fucked thru a whole in a sheet with the lights off if they're ever had sex with a woman at all... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LOL You would be surprised how many women are into that. Yea these gals will surprise ya. I swear some of our posters have only fucked thru a whole in a sheet with the lights off if they're ever had sex with a woman at all... Women aren't angels.    Attached File |
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