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Quoted: Ok. So guys who run lover traps that lure women in and manipulate women into working as camgirls aren't pimps. pimp noun 1. a man who controls prostitutes and arranges clients for them, taking a percentage of their earnings in return View Quote https://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=2722423&tl=-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Do-you-consider-being-a-pimp-to-be-a-respectable-job- |
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Quoted: Still waiting to hear who this nobody is, vs GUILTY Ghislane View Quote He’s not a nobody. He’s got hundreds of millions of dollars and millions of followers. If he was a nobody, they wouldn’t be continually arresting him with no grounds. As for who he is. Broke kid from UK, former pro kickboxer(whatever the hell that means), ran a cam girl site which is not illegal, got into making manosphere redpill videos on YouTube where he gained his following. There are many dudes who do this, but he speaks more strongly and aggressively. Got simultaneously banned on all social media so he only is on rumble now. Been arrested multiple times for trafficking with no victims coming forward or evidence other than a couple girls who admitted to making it up. Why you should care: he is pro masculinity and holds various conservative viewpoints. For this he has been silenced and legally targeted. If it was actually because of trafficking; they’d have arrested a couple epstein clients, as you allude to. |
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The guy is a free thinker who speaks his mind, and riles up the sheep.
You guys see what is happening in the UK right? They are just following orders from the EU. Lawfare is plain and simple. If Tate would keep his mouth shut and support the Labour party he would be good to go. |
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Quoted: Where did I say he is guilty for this reason? I didn't. I didn't even comment on his guilt or innocence of this trial at all. I think my point is if this guy was a "lefty" and spouted a bunch of crazy, antisocial leftist garbage would you even be interested in his innocence or guilt? Would you invest time into learning about his trial or past history? I doubt it. But when someone is "anti-woke" or puts up a facade of being conservative, somehow people feel the need to defend the person. I don't know how anyone can watch interviews of him and think this is a man worth spending time worrying about. View Quote I don't play the "my side is right!!" game. When all the "XYZ is on the Epstein flight logs!!" nonsense was going on, I didn't call anyone a pedo based just on that. When some leftist cunt is accused of XYZ because of "rock solid info" by "anonymous sources", I don't repeat it. When ABC God fearing, upstanding citizen is smeared by the MSM, I don't even acknowledge it. Based on the things I've personally seen (his videos), I think he's a complete fucking douche and generally crappy human. Does that change the fact that it's complete bullshit that he's been arrested a couple of times for this without a trial and is already guilty in the court of GD because "he's mean" despite that complete and absolute lack of any evidence being presented? Nope.. It still makes the GD jury a bunch of hypocritical clowns. You are among the clown pool because you cared enough to comment on his character and that he "isn't worth worrying about". Essentially saying "I don't like him, so it's cool if we assume he's guilty based on anonymous sources". I bet you complain that the OJ Simpon and Casey Anthony verdicts were a "gross miscarriage of justice!!1111!!!!1" because they didn't go the way you thought they should. |
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He may be and probably is a scumbag but as long as he isn’t victimizing children (like the left literally does) I’m ok with him fucking with the left and those who are trying to feminize boys and young men. Every socialist left tard nation calls him a threat to their societies because of their males getting all uppity after listening to him and not being submissive to their female dominated societal norms so maybe he isn’t 100% wrong.
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Quoted: It's not surprising that there are a lot of Andrew Tate fans here. View Quote Why would it? He advocates for working hard, getting on the grind, and you deserve what you earn. People really need to get out of the mindset that just because someone does or says something you don’t like or is controversial, that that invalidates their entire body of work. |
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Quoted: Would you want your daughter dating him? View Quote I keep seeing this come up like its some brilliant point that if you wouldn't let a guy bang your daughter then he is a complete shitbag who deserves any fucked up thing someone does to him. Like thats the yardstick you measure all men by. Would I be cool if he plowed my little girl? Its just weird as fuck. Tate has always been a grifter which makes him exactly the same as every politician and influencer out there. Even the ones you like. He's just the newest Milo or Stefan Molyneux who will inevitably be thrown down the memory hole. After him will be another one. |
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Quoted: Why would it? He advocates for working hard, getting on the grind, and you deserve what you earn. People really need to get out of the mindset that just because someone does or says something you don't like or is controversial, that that invalidates their entire body of work. View Quote |
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Quoted: He's actually quite a charitable man https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/96007/IMG_5743_jpeg-3303006.JPG View Quote |
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Quoted: What does it tell you about a person who has to constantly remind you what kind of car they drive and how expensive it is? He talks about being this self-actualized man, but really all he cares about is money and perceived power. View Quote Yeah, the charitable part was sarcasm. I don’t follow much about him but remember seeing that and it kind of set my opinion of the guy. |
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This the guy who got tracked down from a pizza delivery?
And I gotta say, unless the FBI is involved, when child porn or trafficking is involved, usually where there's smoke there's fire. |
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He still has old charges from the UK that Romania won't allow extradition on until the Romanian charges are completed
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Quoted: Same. I don't like him either. I'm not saying he deserves to get railroaded if he's innocent, but I am so far removed from him that I don't ever give him a single thought until somebody brings him up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'm sorry I can't get behind this dude. He is the epitome of narcissism. |
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Quoted: What exactly is conservative about continually lying and intentionally scamming people? Are people really this easy to sucker? View Quote What does lying and scamming have to do with being conservative? We aren’t paragons of virtue just because we vote republican lol. There are shit people on both sides. What have I been suckered into? I watched a funny internet dude say men should be men and women should be women. I agreed. That’s the extent of my relationship to him. |
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Another tidbit for those who don’t know.
90% of the “strippers” and prostitutes in all of Europe are Romanian. Romania has a real trafficking problem, but it isn’t tate. Yet he is the one getting hemmed up. |
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I think overall Tate has a positive message and that’s the crime.
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Quoted: He’s not a nobody. He’s got hundreds of millions of dollars and millions of followers. If he was a nobody, they wouldn’t be continually arresting him with no grounds. As for who he is. Broke kid from UK, former pro kickboxer(whatever the hell that means), ran a cam girl site which is not illegal, got into making manosphere redpill videos on YouTube where he gained his following. There are many dudes who do this, but he speaks more strongly and aggressively. Got simultaneously banned on all social media so he only is on rumble now. Been arrested multiple times for trafficking with no victims coming forward or evidence other than a couple girls who admitted to making it up. Why you should care: he is pro masculinity and holds various conservative viewpoints. For this he has been silenced and legally targeted. If it was actually because of trafficking; they’d have arrested a couple epstein clients, as you allude to. View Quote Ah-hah, Youtube famous. Thanks for the explanation |
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Since we've apparently now decided that all law enforcement attention is political persecution, why are we not similarly assuming Ghislaine Maxwell was set up by Globohomo?
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Quoted: Since we've apparently now decided that all law enforcement attention is political persecution, why are we not similarly assuming Ghislaine Maxwell was set up by Globohomo? View Quote Well... She's certainly the designated scapegoat to make sure that anyone in any kind of a position of power doesn't have their reputation sullied with any kinds of outrageous accusations. |
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I finally watched the video in the OP, even after my first reply. Based on history (of his prior cases), he is on point with this one. Some of you should listen to it.
You don't have to believe he is some kind of saint, I don't think he has ever portrayed that, nor do I think he is and nor do I agree with a lot of what he does. But many of you need to get off your own high horse, watch the OP video, then do the research. It was all bullshit charges the last handful of times, what makes you think this time is different? |
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Quoted: https://i.giphy.com/5UB7rGI71YHBsuRQdi.webp It's still kinda shocking to see people out themselves this way. This isn't brain surgery. People who's way of life is to lie, con people, and manipulate them, esp those in that life who say you deserve it if they can get one over on you and who seem to exhibit enjoyment of suckering people ... aren't conservative, and aren't to be followed. WDC is full of people like that and that's one of the main reasons everything they touch gets screwed up so badly. But hey, if he hurts feelings in a way we like feelings to be hurt ... we can just ignore all that, right? he is pro masculinity and holds various conservative viewpoints. He's not pro masculinity and his being an admitted liar and conman means you no good evidence that he believes what he says he does - "holds various conservative viewpoints." Ponzi also told people he'd conserve and grow their money and he also was a conman. View Quote Clearly internet kickboxer man lives rent free in your mind. The right is full of dirtbags too. Tates grift is no worse than a car salesman or a lawyer lol. He’s selling something and people buy it. Why does this enrage you? |
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Quoted: Clearly internet kickboxer man lives rent free in your mind. The right is full of dirtbags too. Tates grift is no worse than a car salesman or a lawyer lol. He’s selling something and people buy it. Why does this enrage you? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: https://i.giphy.com/5UB7rGI71YHBsuRQdi.webp It's still kinda shocking to see people out themselves this way. This isn't brain surgery. People who's way of life is to lie, con people, and manipulate them, esp those in that life who say you deserve it if they can get one over on you and who seem to exhibit enjoyment of suckering people ... aren't conservative, and aren't to be followed. WDC is full of people like that and that's one of the main reasons everything they touch gets screwed up so badly. But hey, if he hurts feelings in a way we like feelings to be hurt ... we can just ignore all that, right? he is pro masculinity and holds various conservative viewpoints. He's not pro masculinity and his being an admitted liar and conman means you no good evidence that he believes what he says he does - "holds various conservative viewpoints." Ponzi also told people he'd conserve and grow their money and he also was a conman. Clearly internet kickboxer man lives rent free in your mind. The right is full of dirtbags too. Tates grift is no worse than a car salesman or a lawyer lol. He’s selling something and people buy it. Why does this enrage you? Ah yes. When you can't justify what you've said, pound the pulpit and call people names that don't even apply. "bu ... bu ... but he's not th eonly one, and he's nto even the worst! You pointing out these things means you're enraged and obsessed!!!" You could have: not replied when you couldn't find an answer or: admitted that yeah, it is kinda dumb to get sucked in by a conman. *shrug* Have fun. |
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His lifestyle was suspiciously affluent for his age, business, and skills. Even if you like everything he says.
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Quoted: I finally watched the video in the OP, even after my first reply. Based on history (of his prior cases), he is on point with this one. Some of you should listen to it. You don't have to believe he is some kind of saint, I don't think he has ever portrayed that, nor do I think he is and nor do I agree with a lot of what he does. But many of you need to get off your own high horse, watch the OP video, then do the research. It was all bullshit charges the last handful of times, what makes you think this time is different? View Quote |
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Quoted: Ah yes. When you can't justify what you've said, pound the pulpit and call people names that don't even apply. "bu ... bu ... but he's not th eonly one, and he's nto even the worst! You pointing out these things means you're enraged and obsessed!!!" You could have: not replied when you couldn't find an answer or: admitted that yeah, it is kinda dumb to get sucked in by a conman. *shrug* Have fun. View Quote Well you’re not making sense. I can’t argue with irrational fear-base personas. You can’t separate ‘conservative’ from ‘Christian’ or something. |
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Quoted: Clearly internet kickboxer man lives rent free in your mind. The right is full of dirtbags too. Tates grift is no worse than a car salesman or a lawyer lol. He’s selling something and people buy it. Why does this enrage you? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: https://i.giphy.com/5UB7rGI71YHBsuRQdi.webp It's still kinda shocking to see people out themselves this way. This isn't brain surgery. People who's way of life is to lie, con people, and manipulate them, esp those in that life who say you deserve it if they can get one over on you and who seem to exhibit enjoyment of suckering people ... aren't conservative, and aren't to be followed. WDC is full of people like that and that's one of the main reasons everything they touch gets screwed up so badly. But hey, if he hurts feelings in a way we like feelings to be hurt ... we can just ignore all that, right? he is pro masculinity and holds various conservative viewpoints. He's not pro masculinity and his being an admitted liar and conman means you no good evidence that he believes what he says he does - "holds various conservative viewpoints." Ponzi also told people he'd conserve and grow their money and he also was a conman. Clearly internet kickboxer man lives rent free in your mind. The right is full of dirtbags too. Tates grift is no worse than a car salesman or a lawyer lol. He’s selling something and people buy it. Why does this enrage you? "The right is full of dirtbags too" Yes, thanks for proving that. By simping for a guy who brags about being a scammer and pedo. Absolutely pathetic. |
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Quoted: Where are you going with this? this is another non sequitur. View Quote |
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Quoted: Would you still care about his legal issues if he advocated for trans children and higher taxes for successful, rich people? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I finally watched the video in the OP, even after my first reply. Based on history (of his prior cases), he is on point with this one. Some of you should listen to it. You don't have to believe he is some kind of saint, I don't think he has ever portrayed that, nor do I think he is and nor do I agree with a lot of what he does. But many of you need to get off your own high horse, watch the OP video, then do the research. It was all bullshit charges the last handful of times, what makes you think this time is different? The answer is no. All the losers defending Tate are doing it because of mUh pOlItIcS, nothing else. |
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Quoted: I don't play the "my side is right!!" game. When all the "XYZ is on the Epstein flight logs!!" nonsense was going on, I didn't call anyone a pedo based just on that. When some leftist cunt is accused of XYZ because of "rock solid info" by "anonymous sources", I don't repeat it. When ABC God fearing, upstanding citizen is smeared by the MSM, I don't even acknowledge it. Based on the things I've personally seen (his videos), I think he's a complete fucking douche and generally crappy human. Does that change the fact that it's complete bullshit that he's been arrested a couple of times for this without a trial and is already guilty in the court of GD because "he's mean" despite that complete and absolute lack of any evidence being presented? Nope.. It still makes the GD jury a bunch of hypocritical clowns. You are among the clown pool because you cared enough to comment on his character and that he "isn't worth worrying about". Essentially saying "I don't like him, so it's cool if we assume he's guilty based on anonymous sources". I bet you complain that the OJ Simpon and Casey Anthony verdicts were a "gross miscarriage of justice!!1111!!!!1" because they didn't go the way you thought they should. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Where did I say he is guilty for this reason? I didn't. I didn't even comment on his guilt or innocence of this trial at all. I think my point is if this guy was a "lefty" and spouted a bunch of crazy, antisocial leftist garbage would you even be interested in his innocence or guilt? Would you invest time into learning about his trial or past history? I doubt it. But when someone is "anti-woke" or puts up a facade of being conservative, somehow people feel the need to defend the person. I don't know how anyone can watch interviews of him and think this is a man worth spending time worrying about. I don't play the "my side is right!!" game. When all the "XYZ is on the Epstein flight logs!!" nonsense was going on, I didn't call anyone a pedo based just on that. When some leftist cunt is accused of XYZ because of "rock solid info" by "anonymous sources", I don't repeat it. When ABC God fearing, upstanding citizen is smeared by the MSM, I don't even acknowledge it. Based on the things I've personally seen (his videos), I think he's a complete fucking douche and generally crappy human. Does that change the fact that it's complete bullshit that he's been arrested a couple of times for this without a trial and is already guilty in the court of GD because "he's mean" despite that complete and absolute lack of any evidence being presented? Nope.. It still makes the GD jury a bunch of hypocritical clowns. You are among the clown pool because you cared enough to comment on his character and that he "isn't worth worrying about". Essentially saying "I don't like him, so it's cool if we assume he's guilty based on anonymous sources". I bet you complain that the OJ Simpon and Casey Anthony verdicts were a "gross miscarriage of justice!!1111!!!!1" because they didn't go the way you thought they should. Do you have brain damage? Instead of throwing a fit and insulting everyone, maybe read the thread. It's full of quotes and videos of Andrew Tate bragging about scamming people and abusing underage girls. That's the scumbag you're emotionally defending. |
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Quoted: I think some people care about Andrew Tate because he appears to challenge the woke agenda. I don't think they really care about justice, they just care about defending anyone who appears to be on their team. I also challenge that Andrew Tate isn't really a conservative or contributing member of society. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Where are you going with this? this is another non sequitur. He has a schtick and a love of controversy. He uses both to make money, which he loves above all else. He’s like Jim Bakker for degenerates. And because he says some things that tickle people’s ears, they’re willing overlook his messy side and pretend it doesn’t exist. |
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Quoted: So you’re saying Tate lied when he said those things. . So it’s “Red-Pilled” to fuck troons, just not to be one. Lol View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If Trump shot a video saying it’s OK to fuck troons so long as they are passable, or talked about fucking chicks so he could manipulate them into being cam-whores for him…..you’d be right. A social media influencer says outrageous things?? Say it isn't so! So you’re saying Tate lied when he said those things. . So it’s “Red-Pilled” to fuck troons, just not to be one. Lol I'm saying that virtually everyone says things, especially on social media (including here) to drive engagement and even trigger people and troll them. You've never said anything about any subject because it was funny, or to get a reaction, even though you might not be on board with it? I've said a lot of things in jest and to poke at people that really shouldn't be read in monotone from a transcript in a courtroom to illustrate my true beliefs. |
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Quoted: Since we've apparently now decided that all law enforcement attention is political persecution, why are we not similarly assuming Ghislaine Maxwell was set up by Globohomo? View Quote Since there appears to be no list of people that actually partook of the underage sex she was selling, perhaps you are correct. |
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Quoted: Do you have brain damage? Instead of throwing a fit and insulting everyone, maybe read the thread. It's full of quotes and videos of Andrew Tate bragging about scamming people and abusing underage girls. That's the scumbag you're emotionally defending. View Quote And this relates how to the left leaning gov arresting him repeatedly while presenting no evidence? Oh, you read it on the internet so it must be true? Got it.. |
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Quoted: Would you still care about his legal issues if he advocated for trans children and higher taxes for successful, rich people? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I finally watched the video in the OP, even after my first reply. Based on history (of his prior cases), he is on point with this one. Some of you should listen to it. You don't have to believe he is some kind of saint, I don't think he has ever portrayed that, nor do I think he is and nor do I agree with a lot of what he does. But many of you need to get off your own high horse, watch the OP video, then do the research. It was all bullshit charges the last handful of times, what makes you think this time is different? I seriously have no idea of what you are even implying in your post. It makes no sense at all and is completely unrelated to Tates statements in the OP. You obviously didn't listen/watch the OP's video. He has 100% been railroaded in the past, that's an undeniable fact. |
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Quoted: The answer is no. All the losers defending Tate are doing it because of mUh pOlItIcS, nothing else. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I finally watched the video in the OP, even after my first reply. Based on history (of his prior cases), he is on point with this one. Some of you should listen to it. You don't have to believe he is some kind of saint, I don't think he has ever portrayed that, nor do I think he is and nor do I agree with a lot of what he does. But many of you need to get off your own high horse, watch the OP video, then do the research. It was all bullshit charges the last handful of times, what makes you think this time is different? The answer is no. All the losers defending Tate are doing it because of mUh pOlItIcS, nothing else. What a bunch of BS. This is about the government going on fishing expeditions and railroading it's citizens. |
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Quoted: Do you have brain damage? Instead of throwing a fit and insulting everyone, maybe read the thread. It's full of quotes and videos of Andrew Tate bragging about scamming people and abusing underage girls. That's the scumbag you're emotionally defending. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Where did I say he is guilty for this reason? I didn't. I didn't even comment on his guilt or innocence of this trial at all. I think my point is if this guy was a "lefty" and spouted a bunch of crazy, antisocial leftist garbage would you even be interested in his innocence or guilt? Would you invest time into learning about his trial or past history? I doubt it. But when someone is "anti-woke" or puts up a facade of being conservative, somehow people feel the need to defend the person. I don't know how anyone can watch interviews of him and think this is a man worth spending time worrying about. I don't play the "my side is right!!" game. When all the "XYZ is on the Epstein flight logs!!" nonsense was going on, I didn't call anyone a pedo based just on that. When some leftist cunt is accused of XYZ because of "rock solid info" by "anonymous sources", I don't repeat it. When ABC God fearing, upstanding citizen is smeared by the MSM, I don't even acknowledge it. Based on the things I've personally seen (his videos), I think he's a complete fucking douche and generally crappy human. Does that change the fact that it's complete bullshit that he's been arrested a couple of times for this without a trial and is already guilty in the court of GD because "he's mean" despite that complete and absolute lack of any evidence being presented? Nope.. It still makes the GD jury a bunch of hypocritical clowns. You are among the clown pool because you cared enough to comment on his character and that he "isn't worth worrying about". Essentially saying "I don't like him, so it's cool if we assume he's guilty based on anonymous sources". I bet you complain that the OJ Simpon and Casey Anthony verdicts were a "gross miscarriage of justice!!1111!!!!1" because they didn't go the way you thought they should. Do you have brain damage? Instead of throwing a fit and insulting everyone, maybe read the thread. It's full of quotes and videos of Andrew Tate bragging about scamming people and abusing underage girls. That's the scumbag you're emotionally defending. LOL Another one that is way up there on that horse that can't see through his own BS and hypocrisy. |
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Quoted: He has a schtick and a love of controversy. He uses both to make money, which he loves above all else. He’s like Jim Bakker for degenerates. And because he says some things that tickle people’s ears, they’re willing overlook his messy side and pretend it doesn’t exist. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Where are you going with this? this is another non sequitur. He has a schtick and a love of controversy. He uses both to make money, which he loves above all else. He’s like Jim Bakker for degenerates. And because he says some things that tickle people’s ears, they’re willing overlook his messy side and pretend it doesn’t exist. And despite all that, we have clear past evidence that he has been railroaded by the government multiple times on frivolous charges. Again, you don't have to like a person to know that a government is wrong. Hell, it can be BOTH. But you didn't watch the OP video either, I suggest you watch it. He's not wrong and has every right to be pissed, unless you personally believe that the government should be able to do these types of things just because. |
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Quoted: And despite all that, we have clear past evidence that he has been railroaded by the government multiple times on frivolous charges. Again, you don't have to like a person to know that a government is wrong. Hell, it can be BOTH. But you didn't watch the OP video either, I suggest you watch it. He's not wrong and has every right to be pissed, unless you personally believe that the government should be able to do these types of things just because. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Where are you going with this? this is another non sequitur. He has a schtick and a love of controversy. He uses both to make money, which he loves above all else. He’s like Jim Bakker for degenerates. And because he says some things that tickle people’s ears, they’re willing overlook his messy side and pretend it doesn’t exist. And despite all that, we have clear past evidence that he has been railroaded by the government multiple times on frivolous charges. Again, you don't have to like a person to know that a government is wrong. Hell, it can be BOTH. But you didn't watch the OP video either, I suggest you watch it. He's not wrong and has every right to be pissed, unless you personally believe that the government should be able to do these types of things just because. I can understand why he’s grumpy. Very few people like to be held accountable for their misdeeds, or to be harassed about them. They much prefer to get away with them. And the fact remains that he has admitted to those misdeeds. And not under coercion or duress. He bragged about them. And there are plenty of people who wouldn’t believe a legitimate prosecution of him even with a mountain of evidence. They’d still say he was railroaded and victimized, because they say that even when he’s admitted to some pretty heinous stuff. I get that the Romanian government is dicking with him. It would be better if they’d just extradite him and let the Brits handle business. Conviction or no conviction, it’s pretty easy to see he’s a trash human being, and so it’s hard to feel bad for him when his chickens come home to roost. |
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LOL.. just add the #metoo and #believeallwomen and be done with it.
Again "he said mean things so he must be guilty.. I don't like him so this is fine". I don't like the guy and he very well may be guilty of everything but I can be objective. You should try it sometime. Quoted: I can understand why he’s grumpy. Very few people like to be held accountable for their misdeeds, or to be harassed about them. They much prefer to get away with them. And the fact remains that he has admitted to those misdeeds. And not under coercion or duress. He bragged about them. And there are plenty of people who wouldn’t believe a legitimate prosecution of him even with a mountain of evidence. They’d still say he was railroaded and victimized, because they say that even when he’s admitted to some pretty heinous stuff. I get that the Romanian government is dicking with him. It would be better if they’d just extradite him and let the Brits handle business. Conviction or no conviction, it’s pretty easy to see he’s a trash human being, and so it’s hard to feel bad for him when his chickens come home to roost. View Quote |
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Quoted: And despite all that, we have clear past evidence that he has been railroaded by the government multiple times on frivolous charges. Again, you don't have to like a person to know that a government is wrong. Hell, it can be BOTH. But you didn't watch the OP video either, I suggest you watch it. He's not wrong and has every right to be pissed, unless you personally believe that the government should be able to do these types of things just because. View Quote Do we though? Sure he says a lot of things I agree with regarding masculinity. He's also a con-man and a fraud based on the videos of him openly bragging about it. If what he admits and brags about is actually true - he should probably be in prison for 25 to life. |
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