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Posted: 11/20/2017 4:19:09 PM EDT
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Yeah, OK... OS updates are not necessarily important. In fact, the y often times help the process of planned obsolescence. I've had great success with my Android based phones, and guess what - they don't need updates to continue funtioning perfectly. I guess your Apple phones need help along the way, and that's OK too. A.W.D. |
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Posted: 11/20/2017 4:29:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My 5C is four years old and I hear the next update is going to likely kill it because it won't be able to handle it... so you get that too. Just rumors I have heard, I am going to run it until it dies. I greatly dislike no external memory, I am thinking this will by last apple for that reason. Secondary would be if it acts like USB mass storage or not. Honestly, I don't know if they do or not anymore. Those would be annoying. Everything else is preference. |
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Posted: 11/20/2017 4:34:54 PM EDT
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Security patching, it's important. There is a reason us IT guys do it on the regular. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, OK... OS updates are not necessarily important. In fact, the y often times help the process of planned obsolescence. I've had great success with my Android based phones, and guess what - they don't need updates to continue funtioning perfectly. I guess your Apple phones need help along the way, and that's OK too. A.W.D. I think some of you guys are making smart phones (in general) out to be something more than they are, or need to be. A.W.D. |
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Posted: 11/20/2017 4:35:21 PM EDT
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Iphone is like a idiot proof smart phone. |
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Posted: 11/20/2017 4:44:51 PM EDT
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Yeah, it's just a phone. It's not like it's an actual PC or networked PC with actual/important data on it. I think some of you guys are making smart phones (in general) out to be something more than they are, or need to be. A.W.D. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, OK... OS updates are not necessarily important. In fact, the y often times help the process of planned obsolescence. I've had great success with my Android based phones, and guess what - they don't need updates to continue funtioning perfectly. I guess your Apple phones need help along the way, and that's OK too. A.W.D. I think some of you guys are making smart phones (in general) out to be something more than they are, or need to be. A.W.D. Phones in a corporate environment that could have access to internal systems... My organization deals with a LOT of PHI. We have to maintain security and integrity. A lot of my personal information is on my iPhone. I'm glad apple regularly releases security patches and has the phone heavily encrypted. |
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Posted: 11/20/2017 5:58:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/20/2017 6:02:19 PM EDT
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So, how does it feel paying $1k for a phone that doesn't work in the cold and is just now introducing features Android has had for years?
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Posted: 11/20/2017 6:08:49 PM EDT
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Lol Apple user |
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Posted: 11/20/2017 6:20:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/20/2017 6:23:08 PM EDT
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So banking information, email, saved files, notes, etc. are not important data? Phones in a corporate environment that could have access to internal systems... My organization deals with a LOT of PHI. We have to maintain security and integrity. A lot of my personal information is on my iPhone. I'm glad apple regularly releases security patches and has the phone heavily encrypted. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, OK... OS updates are not necessarily important. In fact, the y often times help the process of planned obsolescence. I've had great success with my Android based phones, and guess what - they don't need updates to continue funtioning perfectly. I guess your Apple phones need help along the way, and that's OK too. A.W.D. I think some of you guys are making smart phones (in general) out to be something more than they are, or need to be. A.W.D. Phones in a corporate environment that could have access to internal systems... My organization deals with a LOT of PHI. We have to maintain security and integrity. A lot of my personal information is on my iPhone. I'm glad apple regularly releases security patches and has the phone heavily encrypted. A.W.D. |
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Posted: 11/20/2017 6:57:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What A.W.D. is saying, {and I agree} is that banking information, personal information, saved files, notes, all that shit does not belong on such a easily lost, easily damaged, little faux computer. That smart phone is not an actual PC with actual/important data, and a secure backup strategy. I agree that some of you guys are making smart phones (in general) out to be something more than they are, or need to be. A.W.D. |
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Posted: 11/20/2017 7:18:38 PM EDT
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The iPhone is the AOL of smart phones: dumbed down enough so that even grandma can use it.
Tell me when you can do the simplest thing like receive an attachment to an email and connect the phone to a (non-networked) computer via USB to access that attachment. Just did that with an Autocad DWG file. Good luck doing that through your iTunes, Apple Mail, iCloud clusterfuck. |
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Posted: 11/20/2017 7:31:51 PM EDT
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What A.W.D. is saying, {and I agree} is that banking information, personal information, saved files, notes, all that shit does not belong on such a easily lost, easily damaged, little faux computer. That smart phone is not an actual PC with actual/important data, and a secure backup strategy. I agree that some of you guys are making smart phones (in general) out to be something more than they are, or need to be. A.W.D. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, OK... OS updates are not necessarily important. In fact, the y often times help the process of planned obsolescence. I've had great success with my Android based phones, and guess what - they don't need updates to continue funtioning perfectly. I guess your Apple phones need help along the way, and that's OK too. A.W.D. I think some of you guys are making smart phones (in general) out to be something more than they are, or need to be. A.W.D. Phones in a corporate environment that could have access to internal systems... My organization deals with a LOT of PHI. We have to maintain security and integrity. A lot of my personal information is on my iPhone. I'm glad apple regularly releases security patches and has the phone heavily encrypted. A.W.D. ETA - Encrypting your device mitigates the 'losing your device' risk which is also a consideration with those easily lost or stolen laptop thingies. |
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Posted: 11/20/2017 7:40:24 PM EDT
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Lol weaksauce troll thread. Enjoy your phone.
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Posted: 11/21/2017 10:44:32 AM EDT
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This couldn' be further from the truth if you tried. I'm a senior infosec manager for one of the largest companies on earth fwiw. People with your attitude are one of the biggest risks facing enterprises today. ETA - Encrypting your device mitigates the 'losing your device' risk which is also a consideration with those easily lost or stolen laptop thingies. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, OK... OS updates are not necessarily important. In fact, the y often times help the process of planned obsolescence. I've had great success with my Android based phones, and guess what - they don't need updates to continue funtioning perfectly. I guess your Apple phones need help along the way, and that's OK too. A.W.D. I think some of you guys are making smart phones (in general) out to be something more than they are, or need to be. A.W.D. Phones in a corporate environment that could have access to internal systems... My organization deals with a LOT of PHI. We have to maintain security and integrity. A lot of my personal information is on my iPhone. I'm glad apple regularly releases security patches and has the phone heavily encrypted. A.W.D. ETA - Encrypting your device mitigates the 'losing your device' risk which is also a consideration with those easily lost or stolen laptop thingies. |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 11:02:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Senior' infosec manager" who never made it out of first-year college composition course presumes to lecture us?? LOL! What credentials are you going to make up tomorrow to 'win' the next argument point?? |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 11:40:01 AM EDT
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This couldn' be further from the truth if you tried. I'm a senior infosec manager for one of the largest companies on earth fwiw. People with your attitude are one of the biggest risks facing enterprises today. ETA - Encrypting your device mitigates the 'losing your device' risk which is also a consideration with those easily lost or stolen laptop thingies. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, OK... OS updates are not necessarily important. In fact, the y often times help the process of planned obsolescence. I've had great success with my Android based phones, and guess what - they don't need updates to continue funtioning perfectly. I guess your Apple phones need help along the way, and that's OK too. A.W.D. I think some of you guys are making smart phones (in general) out to be something more than they are, or need to be. A.W.D. Phones in a corporate environment that could have access to internal systems... My organization deals with a LOT of PHI. We have to maintain security and integrity. A lot of my personal information is on my iPhone. I'm glad apple regularly releases security patches and has the phone heavily encrypted. A.W.D. ETA - Encrypting your device mitigates the 'losing your device' risk which is also a consideration with those easily lost or stolen laptop thingies. It's amusing to hear non IT people talk about IT issues from their small world perspectives. |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 11:47:45 AM EDT
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I hate my company issued iPad and like the feature rich Samsung S7 Edge that I use everyday.
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For those of us who can remember the Macbooks catching fire. |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 1:11:57 PM EDT
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Lots of my friends who were massive iphone fan folks are starting to ask about my google Pixel.
The interface with my DSLR and ability to be creative on the pixel has been fantastic. People are starting to take notice I think. Who knows. |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 1:30:00 PM EDT
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Apple is the velcro shoe of cellphones. 
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Posted: 11/21/2017 2:44:39 PM EDT
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Could not agree more. I am a Sr. Systems Engineer and see a lot of the BS. It's amusing to hear non IT people talk about IT issues from their small world perspectives. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, OK... OS updates are not necessarily important. In fact, the y often times help the process of planned obsolescence. I've had great success with my Android based phones, and guess what - they don't need updates to continue funtioning perfectly. I guess your Apple phones need help along the way, and that's OK too. A.W.D. I think some of you guys are making smart phones (in general) out to be something more than they are, or need to be. A.W.D. Phones in a corporate environment that could have access to internal systems... My organization deals with a LOT of PHI. We have to maintain security and integrity. A lot of my personal information is on my iPhone. I'm glad apple regularly releases security patches and has the phone heavily encrypted. A.W.D. ETA - Encrypting your device mitigates the 'losing your device' risk which is also a consideration with those easily lost or stolen laptop thingies. It's amusing to hear non IT people talk about IT issues from their small world perspectives. |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 2:59:00 PM EDT
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Apple Takes Aim at Trump in Australian Interview "A top Apple executive and former Obama official attacked the Trump administration in an interview with an Australian news outlet." See how that works? They ALL hate Trump, not just an exec from Apple. |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 7:58:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/21/2017 8:00:34 PM EDT
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I haven't had any major problems with Android. I have a couple apps. I use it to text, call, take some pictures. Nothing intensive.
Apps include Candy Crush, web browsing, calculator. |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 8:01:42 PM EDT
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Yeah, it's just a phone. It's not like it's an actual PC or networked PC with actual/important data on it. I think some of you guys are making smart phones (in general) out to be something more than they are, or need to be. A.W.D. You serious, Clark? Shirley, you can’t be serious. |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 8:06:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This couldn' be further from the truth if you tried. I'm a senior infosec manager for one of the largest companies on earth fwiw. People with your attitude are one of the biggest risks facing enterprises today. ETA - Encrypting your device mitigates the 'losing your device' risk which is also a consideration with those easily lost or stolen laptop thingies. Let me guess, your phone’s unlock code is 1 2 3 4? Here, let me send you an email real quick, just click on the link. |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 8:07:22 PM EDT
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Lol. Phone wars. I love these threads.
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Posted: 11/21/2017 8:07:47 PM EDT
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So, OP thinks phone quality or awesomeness is a zero-sum game?
Congrats on becoming a liberal, OP! |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 8:09:30 PM EDT
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Meh...
30 percent more expensive than a galaxy 8 and noticably slower when cycling through apps. Non expandable memory. A smaller screen. Not really seeing the draw, I can surf afcom, do mobile banking, use as a balistics calqulator. It even streams music and plays youtube. I've used both, and honestly don't see the big deal. |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 8:10:23 PM EDT
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More like upgayed, op.
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Posted: 11/21/2017 8:13:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could not agree more. I am a Sr. Systems Engineer and see a lot of the BS. It's amusing to hear non IT people talk about IT issues from their small world perspectives. While I agree that one shouldn't log into very sensitive things (like banks and such) from a phone, sometimes you just HAVE TO. Some people have to use a smartphone for their jobs, which will access their employer's sensitive stuff. Hell, even for private use, what you DO access from your phone, if compromised, would likely help attackers compromise other things you never logged into from your phone. Security updates are critical, and should be applied to EVERY. FUCKING. COMPUTER. DEVICE. YOU. OWN. You know that big compromise at Experian? Yeah, it was a vulnerability in Apache (the web server software) that was patched MONTHS before the breach... but they didn't update. I guess they just wanted to avoid obsolescence, huh? |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 8:15:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/21/2017 8:18:21 PM EDT
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Yeah, OK... OS updates are not necessarily important. In fact, the y often times help the process of planned obsolescence. I've had great success with my Android based phones, and guess what - they don't need updates to continue funtioning perfectly. I guess your Apple phones need help along the way, and that's OK too. A.W.D. I think some of you guys are making smart phones (in general) out to be something more than they are, or need to be. A.W.D. |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 8:21:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My 5C is four years old and I hear the next update is going to likely kill it because it won't be able to handle it... so you get that too. Just rumors I have heard, I am going to run it until it dies. I greatly dislike no external memory, I am thinking this will by last apple for that reason. |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 8:23:40 PM EDT
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Does your iPhone know how to add, subtract, multiply, and divide?
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Posted: 11/21/2017 8:26:52 PM EDT
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The iPhone is the AOL of smart phones: dumbed down enough so that even grandma can use it. Tell me when you can do the simplest thing like receive an attachment to an email and connect the phone to a (non-networked) computer via USB to access that attachment. Just did that with an Autocad DWG file. Good luck doing that through your iTunes, Apple Mail, iCloud clusterfuck. |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 8:31:33 PM EDT
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Some of you need to go be poor somewhere else.
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Posted: 11/21/2017 8:38:42 PM EDT
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I love when mactards get excited about something "new", that android has had for years. |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 8:41:03 PM EDT
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Wait, Apples still use cables? I'm sorry.
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Posted: 11/21/2017 9:35:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/21/2017 9:40:42 PM EDT
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I love when mactards get excited about something "new", that android has had for years. please try again, with a relevant cell phone platform. |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 9:49:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryLulz. Because OPO has never lied (cheated) on tests before....
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Posted: 11/21/2017 10:06:31 PM EDT
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Phones are just tools. They serve me, not the reverse. As long as any phone does what I want it to, I'm good with it. I am not a techno nut that has to have the newest model phone, computer, watch, or other electronic gadget. Talk to me about guns or knives, and you will get my attention though.
OTOH, it someone came out with a phone that was preloaded with a 2500 yard laser ranger finder, good ballistics program, and had an internal Kestrel type unit linked to the ballistics and rangefinder, I would be all over that. Until then...meh. |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 11:09:05 PM EDT
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I have used an I PHONE and it rang and I talked to someone.
I have used a Samsung Galaxy PHONE and it rang and I talked to someone. Looks like a draw to me.... 
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Posted: 11/21/2017 11:23:04 PM EDT
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I have used an I PHONE and it rang and I talked to someone. I have used a Samsung Galaxy PHONE and it rang and I talked to someone. Looks like a draw to me.... Nobody actually uses a smart phone for voice chat! Get with the times! |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 11:33:16 PM EDT
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Lol Apple user |
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Posted: 11/22/2017 1:25:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Benchmarks don't equal real world usage. That fraction of a second most people aren't going to notice. I think my main gripe with Apple is being stingy with memory. IPhoneX has 3GB why not 4GB or 6GB? I think it's because if they did it would future proof their phones a little longer. |
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Posted: 11/22/2017 1:27:48 AM EDT
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They don't want to future proof their phones, lol, it's already been proven that they intentionally slow down the older phones when the new versions aree coming out. Apple fanbois like getting raped and keep going back for more. |
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Posted: 11/22/2017 1:35:03 AM EDT
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If I'm going to be completely honest, this is the biggest thing that keeps me off the iPhone and certain Android phones. Secondary would be if it acts like USB mass storage or not. Honestly, I don't know if they do or not anymore. Those would be annoying. Everything else is preference. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: My 5C is four years old and I hear the next update is going to likely kill it because it won't be able to handle it... so you get that too. Just rumors I have heard, I am going to run it until it dies. I greatly dislike no external memory, I am thinking this will by last apple for that reason. Secondary would be if it acts like USB mass storage or not. Honestly, I don't know if they do or not anymore. Those would be annoying. Everything else is preference. |
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Posted: 11/22/2017 1:37:32 AM EDT
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What a buncha dorks.
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