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Link Posted: 2/22/2024 11:18:21 PM EDT
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KSC about 5 years ago

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Somewhere at the house I have some pictures of the AN225 delivering DoS S61 helicopters at Baghdad back in 2011 I think it was. Those poor fuckers with dyncorp had to install the rotor heads and blades out in the sun because they didn't fit in the hanger that was built for em.
Link Posted: 2/22/2024 11:19:38 PM EDT
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I used to regularly see one around the El Paso airport. Have been gone 5 years now, so don't know anymore.
Link Posted: 2/22/2024 11:23:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/22/2024 11:28:00 PM EDT
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Today was the second time seeing this big old girl flying into my local airport. Anyone else seeing them?

I think it was one of these

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480138/An-124_jpg-3138148.JPG


Dont remember seeing the double rear verticals like this...

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Saw the wide tail on approach coming in to pick up some Ericsson Sky Cranes a few years ago. So damn big it didn’t look like it was moving fast enough to fly.
Link Posted: 2/22/2024 11:29:14 PM EDT
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Scene from the movie 2012 - It's russian (HD)
Link Posted: 2/22/2024 11:33:15 PM EDT
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I’ve seen it several times. Used to come here to pick up fuselages from Lear, IIRC, and take them to Short Bros in Ireland.
Big SOB. Parked at the end of runway next to the cargo terminal. Made 747’s seem small.

Watched it take off once. Seemed ponderous, like a C-5, scary actually. But made it up.

Saw the Boeing Dreamlifter when it landed at the wrong airport here in Wichita too.
It landed at Jabara private airport, a couple miles short from its location (to be fair, Wichita has like seven? airports due to all the manufacturing. They’re all pretty close.)
It had to back up all the way to the south end, the KHP shut down K96 which runs behind it, and it lumbered up into the air on a runway used for small private jets.

Cool, but I’m guessing someone got an ass chewing.
Link Posted: 2/22/2024 11:37:37 PM EDT
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Likely already said, but they only had one of the wide-tail An-225s, and it got burned up in this latest war.

The smaller An-124s fly around a bit, and one has visited Houston IAH a few times. As ManiacRat already said (I have some bad pictures from the airport fence.)

Big plane.
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Today was the second time seeing this big old girl flying into my local airport. Anyone else seeing them?

I think it was one of these

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480138/An-124_jpg-3138148.JPG


Dont remember seeing the double rear verticals like this...

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480138/Antonov-An-225-e1587064975905_jpeg-3138149.JPG


Likely already said, but they only had one of the wide-tail An-225s, and it got burned up in this latest war.

The smaller An-124s fly around a bit, and one has visited Houston IAH a few times. As ManiacRat already said (I have some bad pictures from the airport fence.)

Big plane.

There was 2. One was parts donor for the one that was destroyed.
Link Posted: 2/23/2024 12:00:38 AM EDT
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There was 2. One was parts donor for the one that was destroyed.
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Today was the second time seeing this big old girl flying into my local airport. Anyone else seeing them?

I think it was one of these

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480138/An-124_jpg-3138148.JPG


Dont remember seeing the double rear verticals like this...

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480138/Antonov-An-225-e1587064975905_jpeg-3138149.JPG


Likely already said, but they only had one of the wide-tail An-225s, and it got burned up in this latest war.

The smaller An-124s fly around a bit, and one has visited Houston IAH a few times. As ManiacRat already said (I have some bad pictures from the airport fence.)

Big plane.

There was 2. One was parts donor for the one that was destroyed.


The one destroyed was the only one that was completed. The second one was never completed.
Link Posted: 2/23/2024 11:28:29 AM EDT
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Dammm. FPFNI.
Link Posted: 2/23/2024 11:31:48 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/23/2024 11:49:52 AM EDT
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This lil' guy was flying parts into DTW. Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 2/23/2024 11:51:45 AM EDT
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There was 2. One was parts donor for the one that was destroyed.
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Today was the second time seeing this big old girl flying into my local airport. Anyone else seeing them?

I think it was one of these

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480138/An-124_jpg-3138148.JPG


Dont remember seeing the double rear verticals like this...

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480138/Antonov-An-225-e1587064975905_jpeg-3138149.JPG


Likely already said, but they only had one of the wide-tail An-225s, and it got burned up in this latest war.

The smaller An-124s fly around a bit, and one has visited Houston IAH a few times. As ManiacRat already said (I have some bad pictures from the airport fence.)

Big plane.

There was 2. One was parts donor for the one that was destroyed.


I did not know that.  I wonder if there's enough left of Plane #2 to economically rebuild it and put it back in service, maybe with CFMs?  Assuming that capability over the -124 is actually required.
Link Posted: 2/23/2024 11:53:18 AM EDT
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A couple of years ago, I got to do a walkthrough on the 6 engine one at BWI
Link Posted: 2/23/2024 12:16:55 PM EDT
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I did not know that.  I wonder if there's enough left of Plane #2 to economically rebuild it and put it back in service, maybe with CFMs?  Assuming that capability over the -124 is actually required.
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Today was the second time seeing this big old girl flying into my local airport. Anyone else seeing them?

I think it was one of these

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480138/An-124_jpg-3138148.JPG


Dont remember seeing the double rear verticals like this...

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480138/Antonov-An-225-e1587064975905_jpeg-3138149.JPG


Likely already said, but they only had one of the wide-tail An-225s, and it got burned up in this latest war.

The smaller An-124s fly around a bit, and one has visited Houston IAH a few times. As ManiacRat already said (I have some bad pictures from the airport fence.)

Big plane.

There was 2. One was parts donor for the one that was destroyed.


I did not know that.  I wonder if there's enough left of Plane #2 to economically rebuild it and put it back in service, maybe with CFMs?  Assuming that capability over the -124 is actually required.


I seem to remember that who ever owns them plans to rebuild using the other airframe. I guess we will see.
Link Posted: 2/23/2024 12:21:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/23/2024 12:26:22 PM EDT
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Antonov AN-124 Landing in Pensacola!


Landing in Pensacola FL
Link Posted: 2/23/2024 12:29:01 PM EDT
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This has sat at Gwinn International (formerly Gwinn Air Force Base) in the U.P. of Michigan for many years because they couldn't pay the $60,000 fuel bill.
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Link Posted: 2/23/2024 12:30:48 PM EDT
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The second AN-225 was never finished.

No, it wasn't cannibalized for parts to keep the first AN-225 flying; the 225 and AN-124 share a lot in terms of systems and parts, so that logistics stream is where it obtained parts.

Although the second airframe looks easy to complete, as we've discussed many times before once an aircraft manufacturing process is shut down it is cost prohibitive to start back up. The 225 was an interesting airplane, but the market for moving that type of outsized cargo wasn't ever enough to support completing the second airframe, so I doubt anyone is interested in spending the money to complete the second one.

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Link Posted: 2/23/2024 12:31:00 PM EDT
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My company hired one before I worked there. Cool plane.
Link Posted: 2/23/2024 1:00:21 PM EDT
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Antonov Airlines hereby applies for an emergency exemption to permit Antonov to operate a single one-way all-cargo charter flight transporting at least one outsized Boeing 767 wing center section, plus ancillary equipment, aerostructures and parts, from Melbourne, Florida or West Palm Beach, Florida to Everett, Washington or Seattle, Washington (BFI or SEA), during the period February 20-26, 2024, using an AN-124-100 aircraft.1 Antonov respectfully requests expedited consideration and approval of this application to authorize the timely transportation of structural assemblies that are urgently needed by The Boeing Company to maintain its 767 Tanker/Freighter production line.

The one-way MLB-PAE charter flight is anticipated to occur on February 21, 2024. Antonov requests approval dates of February 20-26, 2024 to account for the positioning flight, the aircraft loading schedule, and potential accelerations or delays due to cargo readiness or operational factors.
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Link Posted: 2/23/2024 1:04:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/23/2024 1:12:00 PM EDT
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Happened to drive by MSP when this one was there in 2014. Didn't know what it was other than huge and later saw a thread on it here.

Pic from the news story on it.



Link Posted: 2/23/2024 1:37:39 PM EDT
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There has been a 124 flying in and out of DTW here for the past few weeks.  

I've seen it several times.  Appears to be coming and going to Germany

Antonov AN-124 at DTW!!! ?? Feburary 22, 2024 #planespotting #dtw #an124 #antonov124
Link Posted: 2/23/2024 1:41:56 PM EDT
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When you said Antonov this is what I thought of

I have flown in this one.



Link Posted: 2/23/2024 1:45:32 PM EDT
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The second AN-225 was never finished.

No, it wasn't cannibalized for parts to keep the first AN-225 flying; the 225 and AN-124 share a lot in terms of systems and parts, so that logistics stream is where it obtained parts.

Although the second airframe looks easy to complete, as we've discussed many times before once an aircraft manufacturing process is shut down it is cost prohibitive to start back up. The 225 was an interesting airplane, but the market for moving that type of outsized cargo wasn't ever enough to support completing the second airframe, so I doubt anyone is interested in spending the money to complete the second one.

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Fair, although a pity.  Thank you for the additional insight.

What could a -225 lift that a -124 (or one of the various Guppy/Beluga a/c) couldn't?
Link Posted: 2/23/2024 1:46:26 PM EDT
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What are the other big transport planes? Is there anything close to the big Anotonov that got burned up?
Link Posted: 2/23/2024 1:47:28 PM EDT
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There’s a couple that regular visitors at KPSM.
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As far as I know for our biggest aircraft is the C17 Globemaster and then the C5 Galaxy. It'd be neat to see them all side by side for reference.


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Stumbled onto this looking for the above and that REALLY puts into perspective how big the 225 was.

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Link Posted: 2/23/2024 7:08:55 PM EDT
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The second AN-225 was never finished.

No, it wasn't cannibalized for parts to keep the first AN-225 flying; the 225 and AN-124 share a lot in terms of systems and parts, so that logistics stream is where it obtained parts.

Although the second airframe looks easy to complete, as we've discussed many times before once an aircraft manufacturing process is shut down it is cost prohibitive to start back up. The 225 was an interesting airplane, but the market for moving that type of outsized cargo wasn't ever enough to support completing the second airframe, so I doubt anyone is interested in spending the money to complete the second one.

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From what I understand, they are quietly putting another 225 together right now.
Link Posted: 2/23/2024 8:43:15 PM EDT
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As far as I know for our biggest aircraft is the C17 Globemaster and then the C5 Galaxy. It'd be neat to see them all side by side for reference.


https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/480138/d9yrqso-e14cd41c-20ed-406e-8cc2-44067230-3139019.JPG

Stumbled onto this looking for the above and that REALLY puts into perspective how big the 225 was.

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The C-5 is substantially larger than the C-17.

The graphics are swapped between the two types, although the stats are correct.
Link Posted: 2/23/2024 8:47:19 PM EDT
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It has been said numerous times by Antonov that it was nowhere near financially viable to complete the second airframe, as the first airframe lost money throughout its operational life.

I guess I'd believe that they'd say just about anything about it these days, true or not.
Link Posted: 2/23/2024 9:04:12 PM EDT
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It has been said numerous times by Antonov that it was nowhere near financially viable to complete the second airframe, as the first airframe lost money throughout its operational life.

I guess I'd believe that they'd say just about anything about it these days, true or not.
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From what I understand, they are quietly putting another 225 together right now.

It has been said numerous times by Antonov that it was nowhere near financially viable to complete the second airframe, as the first airframe lost money throughout its operational life.

I guess I'd believe that they'd say just about anything about it these days, true or not.

Honestly it would not surprise me if they are rebuilding it, how many billions have we sent to the Ukraine? Bigger question where did it all go?
Link Posted: 2/23/2024 10:07:48 PM EDT
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There's a clapped out one sitting at Kenosha county airport.
It's been there for years, if not decades.
Link Posted: 2/23/2024 10:10:05 PM EDT
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No new aid has been approved for nearly 3 months.

Ask the Russians where it went, they had it land on their foreheads and take out their planes and men
Link Posted: 2/23/2024 10:11:52 PM EDT
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I used to work at a international airport and spoke to the pilot of one back in "99 or "00. I asked him what was bigger that or a 747. He replied with a very heavy accent "This fucking plane swallow seven four seven" and looked at me with a stone face...??
Link Posted: 2/24/2024 12:31:52 AM EDT
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I saw the same plane fly into Moffet Field twice.
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Well, he wasn't too far from the truth...lol!  The 225 was a big bitch!  Here is a few pictures I took when it was making laps through Anchorage a few years ago.  The last picture I posted on the previous page shows a 747, then the AN124 in the center, and the 225 in the back on one of our ramps.



Link Posted: 2/24/2024 12:40:41 AM EDT
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This has sat at Gwinn International (formerly Gwinn Air Force Base) in the U.P. of Michigan for many years because they couldn't pay the $60,000 fuel bill.
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I think that one actually is Russian (an Ilyushin)
Link Posted: 2/24/2024 1:15:05 AM EDT
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When the big one got hit
Link Posted: 2/24/2024 1:35:52 AM EDT
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No new aid has been approved for nearly 3 months.

Ask the Russians where it went, they had it land on their foreheads and take out their planes and men
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Honestly it would not surprise me if they are rebuilding it, how many billions have we sent to the Ukraine? Bigger question where did it all go?


No new aid has been approved for nearly 3 months.

Ask the Russians where it went, they had it land on their foreheads and take out their planes and men

So there has not been more than enough to finish it gone missing we have to wait for the next round?
Link Posted: 2/24/2024 1:37:34 AM EDT
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Nobody's posted the vodka burner video yet?
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I think that one actually is Russian (an Ilyushin)
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This has sat at Gwinn International (formerly Gwinn Air Force Base) in the U.P. of Michigan for many years because they couldn't pay the $60,000 fuel bill.
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I think that one actually is Russian (an Ilyushin)

From what the guy at the Air Force museum told us yes it is.  You'd think Vlad would pay the $60k to get his airplane back!
Link Posted: 2/24/2024 7:56:08 AM EDT
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I have seen one at TUL before.
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Yes. The AN cargo planes do spend a lot of time in the us.
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From what the guy at the Air Force museum told us yes it is.  You'd think Vlad would pay the $60k to get his airplane back!
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This has sat at Gwinn International (formerly Gwinn Air Force Base) in the U.P. of Michigan for many years because they couldn't pay the $60,000 fuel bill.
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I think that one actually is Russian (an Ilyushin)

From what the guy at the Air Force museum told us yes it is.  You'd think Vlad would pay the $60k to get his airplane back!

"Vlad" doesn't own it -- an American does. It isn't a fuel bill lein that is keeping it there, either.

To wit:
Company owner Gary Fears purchased the IL-78 (N78GF) in 2006 for the purpose of being used in an outsourced US DoD aerial refueling program. The plane was never used for this purpose, and in 2009 the IL-78 took off from North Texas Regional Airport with a Ukrainian crew for Pakistan. Due to a lien against the plane for unpaid maintenance costs, it was diverted to Sawyer International Airport in Michigan and prevented from leaving US airspace. The Ukrainian crew was deported after the plane landed for visa violations. Fears company (Air Support Systems) filed for bankruptcy which revealed creditors including a mercenary group, a front company, and a gambling executive with ties to the Chicago mob. The plane is still sitting at Sawyer International Airport today.


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Link Posted: 2/24/2024 1:37:50 PM EDT
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I saw the 225 at Dulles in the 90's.   Pictures do not do it justice... crazy, looked like it was going to fall out of the sky, we were all thinking a decent car definetly has higher ground speed during its climb)

The 124s were seen pretty often, still BIG and impressive/scary (Def not built with carbon emissions in mind)

Interesting story: ~90's: I had a brief interaction with one on a charter; it had stopped in Richmond for a load of cigarettes (Probably on the way home?).   RIC runway was too short for a full load take off, so something like it took off from RIC with a half fuel load, hopped over to IAD (Dulles having a +11,500 ft runway) to top off and head home.   We saw inside it had I think 6 main decks of smokes and then every single nook and cranny wall to wall, floor to celling PACKED with loose cases of Marlboro Reds!

FWIW: Many, if not all major airlines are heavily dependent on them for large AOG parts support; stupid airbus does not have a plane large enough to move the A380 engines so they need Heavy Lift or similar to move them on a 124 for them (LOL).  

(Anyone ever see an older 747 doing a 5th engine ferry?   That was a real head turner)
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I saw the 225 at Dulles in the 90's.   Pictures do not do it justice... crazy, looked like it was going to fall out of the sky, we were all thinking a decent car definetly has higher ground speed during its climb)

The 124s were seen pretty often, still BIG and impressive/scary (Def not built with carbon emissions in mind)

Interesting story: ~90's: I had a brief interaction with one on a charter; it had stopped in Richmond for a load of cigarettes (Probably on the way home?).   RIC runway was too short for a full load take off, so something like it took off from RIC with a half fuel load, hopped over to IAD (Dulles having a +11,500 ft runway) to top off and head home.   We saw inside it had I think 6 main decks of smokes and then every single nook and cranny wall to wall, floor to celling PACKED with loose cases of Marlboro Reds!

FWIW: Many, if not all major airlines are heavily dependent on them for large AOG parts support; stupid airbus does not have a plane large enough to move the A380 engines so they need Heavy Lift or similar to move them on a 124 for them (LOL).  

(Anyone ever see an older 747 doing a 5th engine ferry?   That was a real head turner)
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Huh.  Wouldn't have guessed that about the 380s.  Their Beluga's cargo compartment is 24' diameter and the -7000 engines on the newer 380s are 'only' like 12' or so, per the wiki for them.  Shrug.
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Metro airport?
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Yeah. Detroit metro.
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"Vlad" doesn't own it -- an American does. It isn't a fuel bill lein that is keeping it there, either.

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That's the start of a good action movie.
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