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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:30:39 PM EDT
[#1]
Your vehicle is a Faraday cage, an imperfect one but good enough.
The danger with an EMP is, power transmission lines that stretch hundreds of miles will act as a huge transformer, transmitting the surge in energy, the wires in your vehicle are not long enough or exposed enough to cause problems. In the event of an EMP event big enough to affect your vehicle, your vehicle will be the least of your problems. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:33:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That would immediately burn those wires if not the main fuse. Negative and chassis are already connected. Connect that to positive and you will have a direct short. Correct. Those wires are probably done in half a second or so. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:36:15 PM EDT
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Everyone seems to say. EMP won't do anything to your car. That's probably true, but if they don't really do anything. Why do they bother making EMP weapons? Maybe there is something different in how they work. IDK, just a thought
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:36:52 PM EDT
[#4]
Looks like snake oil to me. Did you order the kit to run your truck off water too?
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:37:34 PM EDT
[#5]
Meh, spare points and condenser for the win.
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:39:48 PM EDT
[#6]
Snake oil.
Tell me how does that company tests against an EMP…lol. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:42:14 PM EDT
[#7]
IN for the replies.
 Dis gonna be gud |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:45:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:46:30 PM EDT
[#9]
I see they say it works across all phases of an EMP, but does it work across multiple EMPs?
I didn't see that covered in their FAQ. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:47:29 PM EDT
[#10]
 Dude is making some bank of some paranoid people. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:48:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:48:24 PM EDT
[#12]
Anyone EMP protected their vehicle? Well, yes. There are people who have EMP protected their vehicle. You however, are not one of them. 
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:48:50 PM EDT
[#13]
Sigh.
That's a weird-looking Faraday cage. Probably only protects small (Matchbox) cars. EMPs are most effective on long conductors. Like hundreds of miles. You already have several Faraday cages in your car - the body, and the several others protecting the computers. A lightning strike won't disable a car. I'm not sure, but I think a lightning strike might impart a little more energy into the car than an EMP. And then, of course, there's the whole "field strength diminishes proportionally with the cube of distance" thing. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:50:08 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone seems to say. EMP won't do anything to your car. That's probably true, but if they don't really do anything. Why do they bother making EMP weapons? Maybe there is something different in how they work. IDK, just a thought |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:50:08 PM EDT
[#15]
I put a carbed 350 in my Tesla
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:51:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude is making some bank of some paranoid people. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:52:23 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's got a +12, -12 and GND wire that looks like maybe 18 ga. Box is completely sealed with no non-destructive way to open. If you did open it I bet all you find is a simple circuit board that provides 12 volts to the little green power LED. Scam meter is in red. What, you don't think 18ga can handle the voltage surge of a lightening strike? |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:57:00 PM EDT
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I do think it's very possible for a vehicle to be disabled by an EMP. It takes very little to damage sensors and computers that we use in new cars. Combine that with thousands of feet of copper wire in the vehicle. I also expect it to be very random with some vehicles damaged and some just fine.
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:57:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What, you don't think 18ga can handle the voltage surge of a lightening strike? Extremely high voltage only needs little wires. Low voltage needs big wires or high amperage turns them into heating elements. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:00:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's got a +12, -12 and GND wire that looks like maybe 18 ga. Box is completely sealed with no non-destructive way to open. If you did open it I bet all you find is a simple circuit board that provides 12 volts to the little green power LED. Scam meter is in red. That's the part that is very suspect. 12v and -12v would go to battery. There is no ground in a car. Where would that land? Chassis is -12v. You gonna drag a ground rod? I don't see it being possible for a device like this to work. The electrical system has no ground reference. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:01:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Please explain how a box with 2 wires could protect a vehicle from EMP. Next thing you're gonna tell me is my gas saver plugged into my cigarette lighter doesn't actually do anything 
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:02:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the part that is very suspect. 12v and -12v would go to battery. There is no ground in a car. Where would that land? Chassis is -12v. You gonna drag a ground rod? I don't see it being possible for a device like this to work. The electrical system has no ground reference. Yeah I don't get it either. Vehicle electrical system is full of fuses and diodes already. Introduce too many volts/amps on the wrong side of those and you're fucked anyway. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:07:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I don't get it either. Vehicle electrical system is full of fuses and diodes already. Introduce too many volts/amps on the wrong side of those and you're fucked anyway. Probably needs a TVS Diode to ground at every major component for high quality EMP protection. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:08:35 PM EDT
[#24]
I seriously doubt the EMP induced voltage in a metal body vehicle will be significant enough to cause damage.
Keep in mind, an EMP attack is suicidal. There are only two states that have the technical means and an EMP isn't going to effect our ability to retaliate in the slightest. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:08:42 PM EDT
[#25]
A good friend sent me to me for my opinion.
It has a money back guarantee he says. If we have a for real EMP good luck collecting. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:09:58 PM EDT
[#26]
It’s probably a massively overpriced MOV based surge protector.
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:12:07 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Please explain how a box with 2 wires could protect a vehicle from EMP. That's what I was thinking......looks like some gimmick, and a great way to throw away almost $400. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:12:50 PM EDT
[#28]
I park on my garage so I’m GTG.
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:15:08 PM EDT
[#29]
Pretty sure I’m squared away.
Just in case, there’s a couple NIB ignition modules vacuum packed and tucked away in a Altoids tin..... somewhere riding around in the back.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:16:22 PM EDT
[#30]
Dude, return it. I design this stuff for a living.
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:17:43 PM EDT
[#31]
Did you have to pay for it with iTunes gift cards?
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:19:18 PM EDT
[#32]
Ok, so lets just pretend that an EMP takes out every car on the road except yours.
You really want to be the only guy with a running truck? At the very least, EVERY friend you ever had is going to ask you to help them move. At worst, you've put a target on your back and you'll be killed for it. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:21:07 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Please explain how a box with 2 wires could protect a vehicle from EMP. Doesn’t matter if it works. If it gets that bad, warranty ain’t gonna matter. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:24:21 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Kinda thought a vehicles body functioned as sort of a faraday cage. Also the effects of an airburst EMP mostly affects the grid due to all power lines acting like receivers (and electronics attached to it). Just basing this on general reading. Wouldn't be the first time if I'm wrong. This. High-altitude EMP ("One Second After" type) melts the power grid because it's basically a giant antenna. AIUI, it's unlikely to knock out most motor vehicles (something like a Tesla, or a vehicle with a lot of networking.....maybe) and stuff like your generator. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:24:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Extremely high voltage only needs little wires. Low voltage needs big wires or high amperage turns them into heating elements. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What, you don't think 18ga can handle the voltage surge of a lightening strike? Extremely high voltage only needs little wires. Low voltage needs big wires or high amperage turns them into heating elements. I'm quite familiar with Ohms law. I'm also quite familiar with lightening strike grounding (hint, it's really high voltage... and really high current!) Anyways, my experience has been it's voltage that frys circuits... not current |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:33:00 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude, return it. I design this stuff for a living. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:34:17 PM EDT
[#37]
Airburst EMP is so 1990s
the new hotness is a drone cruising your hood while blasting EMP and other noises if they miss you on the first pass, the overwatch drone will schedule you for a touch up |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:42:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:Dude, return it. I design this stuff for a living. I'd love to hear your opinion on what it would take to properly protect a home and vehicles from large EMP devices. Would basic shunting at the breaker box protect most home electronics? |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:43:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its like the 3 sea shells Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Please explain how a box with 2 wires could protect a vehicle from EMP. Ummm, there are three wires. It works because of three wires. Its like the 3 sea shells 
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:44:10 PM EDT
[#40]
I’m clearly the dumbest person in the room, but could someone please post a link to a good explanation of exactly how an EMP weapon works, how it is going to damage my electronics, and a documented case of this happening? Not something theoretical - I want something factual.
I mean, according to this thread we already have “EMP Weapons.” Someone here “designs this stuff for a living” and apparently we’ve modified B52s to be “EMP Resistant.” What do these weapons look like? What is their range? What mechanism is used to damage electronics? What kind of electronics? Which components, specifically, are damaged? How do the various “protective” devices stop the process that would otherwise damage stuff? How and where were they tested? I’ve only ever seen these referenced in post-apocalyptic fiction and sci-fi movies like The Matrix, and in masturbatory fantasy threads here. I’m not actually convinced they are an actual threat. I’m open to being convinced, but I’m going to need some documentation, which seems to be conspicuously absent from these threads. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:46:22 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. High-altitude EMP ("One Second After" type) melts the power grid because it's basically a giant antenna. AIUI, it's unlikely to knock out most motor vehicles (something like a Tesla, or a vehicle with a lot of networking.....maybe) and stuff like your generator. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Kinda thought a vehicles body functioned as sort of a faraday cage. Also the effects of an airburst EMP mostly affects the grid due to all power lines acting like receivers (and electronics attached to it). Just basing this on general reading. Wouldn't be the first time if I'm wrong. This. High-altitude EMP ("One Second After" type) melts the power grid because it's basically a giant antenna. AIUI, it's unlikely to knock out most motor vehicles (something like a Tesla, or a vehicle with a lot of networking.....maybe) and stuff like your generator. The shell won't act like a faraday cage. A faraday cage has openings that are smaller than the wavelength of the radiation. Windows would not stop radiation from entering the vehicle. Whether strong enough to damage ECU/BCU, etc is up for debate. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:46:31 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m clearly the dumbest person in the room, but could someone please post a link to a good explanation of exactly how an EMP weapon works, how it is going to damage my electronics, and a documented case of this happening? Not something theoretical - I want something factual. I mean, according to this thread we already have “EMP Weapons.” Someone here “designs this stuff for a living” and apparently we’ve modified B52s to be “EMP Resistant.” What do these weapons look like? What is their range? What mechanism is used to damage electronics? What kind of electronics? Which components, specifically, are damaged? How do the various “protective” devices stop the process that would otherwise damage stuff? How and where were they tested? I’ve only ever seen these referenced in post-apocalyptic fiction and sci-fi movies like The Matrix, and in masturbatory fantasy threads here. I’m not actually convinced they are an actual threat. I’m open to being convinced, but I’m going to need some documentation, which seems to be conspicuously absent from these threads. Two words for you: Carrington Event No weapons required for EM to be an issue. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:46:34 PM EDT
[#43]
It was awarded "The Coolest Thing Made In Kansas 2022"
Must be good. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:51:43 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m clearly the dumbest person in the room, but could someone please post a link to a good explanation of exactly how an EMP weapon works, how it is going to damage my electronics, and a documented case of this happening? Not something theoretical - I want something factual. I mean, according to this thread we already have “EMP Weapons.” Someone here “designs this stuff for a living” and apparently we’ve modified B52s to be “EMP Resistant.” What do these weapons look like? What is their range? What mechanism is used to damage electronics? What kind of electronics? Which components, specifically, are damaged? How do the various “protective” devices stop the process that would otherwise damage stuff? How and where were they tested? I’ve only ever seen these referenced in post-apocalyptic fiction and sci-fi movies like The Matrix, and in masturbatory fantasy threads here. I’m not actually convinced they are an actual threat. I’m open to being convinced, but I’m going to need some documentation, which seems to be conspicuously absent from these threads. Mostly we're talking about nuclear events. Starship Prime was the big test we did in the 60's that generated a large EMP and damaged electronics almost 1000 miles away. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse Thankfully we've abstained from nuclear war for almost 80 years. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:56:12 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m clearly the dumbest person in the room, but could someone please post a link to a good explanation of exactly how an EMP weapon works, how it is going to damage my electronics, and a documented case of this happening? Not something theoretical - I want something factual. I mean, according to this thread we already have “EMP Weapons.” Someone here “designs this stuff for a living” and apparently we’ve modified B52s to be “EMP Resistant.” What do these weapons look like? What is their range? What mechanism is used to damage electronics? What kind of electronics? Which components, specifically, are damaged? How do the various “protective” devices stop the process that would otherwise damage stuff? How and where were they tested? I’ve only ever seen these referenced in post-apocalyptic fiction and sci-fi movies like The Matrix, and in masturbatory fantasy threads here. I’m not actually convinced they are an actual threat. I’m open to being convinced, but I’m going to need some documentation, which seems to be conspicuously absent from these threads. A nuke detonated above ground is the old reliable way. Range from that is significant. Induced current from a changing magnetic field is the problem. Routing this current away from things you want to keep is the solution. Look at the Carrington event for a natural version from the sun, or nuclear test measurements. They are absolutely a threat to life and the gov agrees. Grid damage could take decades to repair. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:56:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You do know your whole car is basically a faraday cage? Also EMP kind of needs long wires to build up a charge, most thing that are not plugged in to any long wires will probably be fine. Take our cell phone in your pocket it should be fine, but if plugged in and charging it probably a goner. go look up when they did the tests, most cars will be fine. If a car is such a good faraday cage, explain how your cell phone signal isn’t hampered? But otherwise, I agree with you. The EMP fear mongering is overhyped. It’s like the Y2K nuts, only the EMP folks won’t be proven wrong (hopefully). |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:57:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was awarded "The Coolest Thing Made In Kansas 2022" Must be good. Fucking damnit. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 2:59:38 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You do know your whole car is basically a faraday cage? Also EMP kind of needs long wires to build up a charge, most thing that are not plugged in to any long wires will probably be fine. Take our cell phone in your pocket it should be fine, but if plugged in and charging it probably a goner. go look up when they did the tests, most cars will be fine. Not only that. They are not grounded. Those big rubber things. Voltage tends to arc to ground off the body or frame. I’m not worried in the least. There will a lot more to think about. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 3:04:21 PM EDT
[#49]
I've just got one a them chains hangin' down like a propane truck. Figure I'm good.
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Posted: 2/15/2023 3:06:07 PM EDT
[#50]
LOL.
Scam. |
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