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Posted: 9/25/2018 10:20:37 PM EDT
I want one.. Are the duke#15s or 16s the only new productions ones in town? I Don’t ever plan on using it to trap a bear (or anything for that matter) however I don’t want a “for decoration only” trap either... I’ve read mixed reviews on the dukes, some claim the springs loose their... springiness after a few uses... let’s face it, if you own a bear trap, you know your gonna wanna play with it, take it to show and tell, and what not...
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Posted: 9/26/2018 5:41:49 AM EDT
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Bump for morning crew...
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Posted: 9/26/2018 5:55:13 AM EDT
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I've seen them around the internet and they are expensive! High as giraffe pussy!
Good luck in your quest. |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 6:10:12 AM EDT
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I’ve seen them for sale at gun shows with like a $500 asking price. They look badass
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Posted: 9/26/2018 6:12:53 AM EDT
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I've seen them around the internet and they are expensive! High as giraffe pussy! Good luck in your quest. |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 6:16:46 AM EDT
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I want one.. Are the duke#15s or 16s the only new productions ones in town? I Don’t ever plan on using it to trap a bear (or anything for that matter) however I don’t want a “for decoration only” trap either... I’ve read mixed reviews on the dukes, some claim the springs loose their... springiness after a few uses... let’s face it, if you own a bear trap, you know your gonna wanna play with it, take it to show and tell, and what not... No, Duke isn’t the only game in town as far as new production bear traps. They’ll be the easiest to find though. I doubt you’ll ever wear the ‘spring’ out of a couple bear trap long springs. My dad has close to 10 doz Duke 1-1/2 coils for raccoon trapping that we’ve beat the hell out of over the years. Duke wouldn’t be top quality but they’re decent traps. If you’re looking for a tier 1 bear trap I’d be looking at Newhouse. From the early hand forged traps to the ATC Newhouses it’s all quality. If taken care of, most 100 yr old Newhouse traps are just as strong as the day they were made. Get your checkbook out though 
Last time I knew Oneida Victor was the current iteration of the Newhouse brand. I can’t speak for their current quality but it looks like they are making some new Newhouse bear traps. |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 6:18:37 AM EDT
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If you are handy with tools, you could make a replica. Leaf spring shaped, heated, bent and reheat treated at home would be the hardest part but not that hard. They used to make them in primitive blacksmith shops with less available tools than most slightly above average home shops have these days.
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Posted: 9/26/2018 6:35:39 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/26/2018 6:52:22 AM EDT
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OP, before you buy a trap..check your local F&G laws...most places it is illegal to trap bears at all, a few places it is illegal too have a functional bear trap..they must be disabled(normally by welding the jaws so they are immobile)....
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Posted: 9/26/2018 7:01:04 AM EDT
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This is a nasty looking piece of kit. Found in the woods many years ago
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Posted: 9/26/2018 7:03:51 AM EDT
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OP, before you buy a trap..check your local F&G laws...most places it is illegal to trap bears at all, a few places it is illegal too have a functional bear trap..they must be disabled(normally by welding the jaws so they are immobile).... |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 7:29:13 AM EDT
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This is a nasty looking piece of kit. Found in the woods many years ago https://i.imgur.com/fETtRqf.jpg https://i.imgur.com/iOQ5Qtq.jpg |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 7:43:39 AM EDT
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This is a nasty looking piece of kit. Found in the woods many years ago https://i.imgur.com/fETtRqf.jpg https://i.imgur.com/iOQ5Qtq.jpg |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 8:01:59 AM EDT
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I do not own now but now that you mention.... think I need one. I will put it our front of my house on Earth Day for display.
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Posted: 9/26/2018 8:13:32 AM EDT
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Sportsman guide has them. $153.00
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Posted: 9/26/2018 8:20:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You found that?!? Makes one wonder how many lay buried still waiting for some smuck taking a hike in the woods to step on it.. |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 8:33:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We set it once but it was too rusty to spring when the plate was tripped, so then the problem became how to release the springs without one getting maimed ( it is a 2 person job to set it) some rope and extreme caution got it done. |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 8:37:30 AM EDT
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I do not own now but now that you mention.... think I need one. I will put it our front of my house on Earth Day for display. |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 8:38:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thts pretty sick right there. Nice find. |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 9:24:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My buddy in Montana found one, leaning up or in a tree in the mountains. It's an old one, but can't remember the name on it. Water and vinegar let it rust up, dye it wax it make it look old.. |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 9:28:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You found that?!? Makes one wonder how many lay buried still waiting for some smuck taking a hike in the woods to step on it..
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Posted: 9/26/2018 9:43:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know, I can imagine some old trapper goes out and sets bear traps, then goes back to the cabin and has a heart attack. Now we got bear trap landmines sitting all over. |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 10:05:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Scary thought if you think about it.. you ain’t gonna get your self out of one if you find your self stuck in one |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 10:15:32 AM EDT
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The trappers would carry some kind of tool to open the jaws by themselves if they got trapped. Forgot the details, but someone will be along shortly.... |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 10:47:00 AM EDT
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The trappers would carry some kind of tool to open the jaws by themselves if they got trapped. Forgot the details, but someone will be along shortly....
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Posted: 9/26/2018 10:51:26 AM EDT
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I have always considered them dangerous....................................to humans.
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Posted: 9/26/2018 12:25:32 PM EDT
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I have always considered them dangerous....................................to humans. |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 1:11:50 PM EDT
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I recently told my wife I had seen a nice bear trap at a gun show that I almost bought. She was worried at the thought of having a bear trap in house, and that little kids that might visit could get hurt.
I told her I wouldn't set it a leave it lying around, and the only way a child could get hurt with an un-set trap is if they tripped over it. She's a smart woman, but her emotions occasionally get the best of her. |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 2:19:17 PM EDT
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I recently told my wife I had seen a nice bear trap at a gun show that I almost bought. She was worried at the thought of having a bear trap in house, and that little kids that might visit could get hurt.
I told her I wouldn't set it a leave it lying around, and the only way a child could get hurt with an un-set trap is if they tripped over it. She's a smart woman, but her emotions occasionally get the best of her. |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 2:24:28 PM EDT
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I have a Duke modern reproduction, but have never set it. I've heard the biggest problem is brittle jaws that tend to break when they are fired.
I also have a Mackenzie #15 antique in like-new condition. I have the setting clamp but haven't yet set it. |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 4:20:17 PM EDT
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I have a Duke modern reproduction, but have never set it. I've heard the biggest problem is brittle jaws that tend to break when they are fired. I also have a Mackenzie #15 antique in like-new condition. I have the setting clamp but haven't yet set it. |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 4:30:57 PM EDT
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Could one heat treat the jaws? I have a buddy with a forge Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a Duke modern reproduction, but have never set it. I've heard the biggest problem is brittle jaws that tend to break when they are fired. I also have a Mackenzie #15 antique in like-new condition. I have the setting clamp but haven't yet set it. |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 4:37:17 PM EDT
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I know, I can imagine some old trapper goes out and sets bear traps, then goes back to the cabin and has a heart attack. Now we got bear trap landmines sitting all over. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 9/26/2018 4:39:07 PM EDT
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They can be annealed, yes. The Newhouse style is easy to disassemble as they are bolted together. Obvious caution when dealing with the springs as they are under a bit of tension even when fired.
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Posted: 9/26/2018 5:02:49 PM EDT
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Most trappers leave their traps hanging in trees on site when they are done for the season, its keeps the traps scent free and means you don't have to pack them all over the countryside...Only reason to pick them up is if you fear them being stolen...As for setting them, yes there are tools to make it happen...I once set off a new magnum 330 conibear on my arm years back...Got lucky, other then turning my arm black and blue from fingers to armpit it didn't break any bones....oops... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 9/26/2018 6:49:25 PM EDT
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Bump for owning dangerous toys.
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Posted: 9/26/2018 9:29:31 PM EDT
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Oh god, I could feel that all the way down here just reading that. Glad it didn’t do worse. Conibears scare the shit out of me. |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 9:38:45 PM EDT
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Most trappers leave their traps hanging in trees on site when they are done for the season, its keeps the traps scent free and means you don't have to pack them all over the countryside...Only reason to pick them up is if you fear them being stolen...As for setting them, yes there are tools to make it happen...I once set off a new magnum 330 conibear on my arm years back...Got lucky, other then turning my arm black and blue from fingers to armpit it didn't break any bones....oops... Buddy got his arm stuck in one and had to walk out to the road to get help. First guy that stopped laughed for 10 minutes. " So why'd you stick yer arm in it?" Talked to a guy in NC who was setting a 280 across himself while wearing neoprene chest waders. Slipped and got 1 nut caught!!!# I ALWAYS carry a rope with a loop in it. Just in case... |
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Posted: 9/26/2018 10:52:44 PM EDT
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No bear traps, just a Glory Hole trap
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Posted: 9/26/2018 11:07:35 PM EDT
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When my uncle was a young kid his family trapped coyotes, but he wasn't big enough to set the trap himself. So him and his brother or dad would set the trap at home and he would carry it over his shoulder by the chain with the trigger outwards. Worked well for a lot of trips until he slipped on a little downhill slope but was able to keep his footing. That caused the trap to flip around and go off, grabbing a jaw full of skin. At this point he was about a mile from the house, said he kept his cool for a second but by the time he ran home the pain was pretty bad. He stopped carrying set traps after that.
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Posted: 9/27/2018 5:08:28 AM EDT
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No bear traps, just a Glory Hole trap http://www.humainaucoeurdulacst-pierre.com/images/images_contenu-content_images/images_lac_saint_pierre-images_lake_saint_pierre/chasse-hunting/20121109_9670.jpg Used a box trap instead and caught a giant ass skunk.  I needed a bear trap for me after shooting that stinking bastard. I know you’re supposed to cover and drown them, but I never listened well to sage advice like that and stunk for days just from the cloud on my trap.
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Posted: 9/27/2018 5:22:16 AM EDT
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Most trappers leave their traps hanging in trees on site when they are done for the season, its keeps the traps scent free and means you don't have to pack them all over the countryside...Only reason to pick them up is if you fear them being stolen...As for setting them, yes there are tools to make it happen...I once set off a new magnum 330 conibear on my arm years back...Got lucky, other then turning my arm black and blue from fingers to armpit it didn't break any bones....oops... |
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Posted: 9/27/2018 5:24:43 AM EDT
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Oh god, I could feel that all the way down here just reading that. Glad it didn't do worse. Conibears scare the shit out of me.  Magnum / Conibear Trap vs Full Coke Can # 1 |
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Posted: 9/27/2018 7:05:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/27/2018 7:09:19 AM EDT
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You found that?!? Makes one wonder how many lay buried still waiting for some smuck taking a hike in the woods to step on it.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is a nasty looking piece of kit. Found in the woods many years ago https://i.imgur.com/fETtRqf.jpg https://i.imgur.com/iOQ5Qtq.jpg
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Posted: 9/27/2018 7:48:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stay inside with your Xbox like God intended you to & you can live worry free like me. Blah I barely have time to even sit down and watch tv.. honestly this here website is about my number one source of entertainment these days.. |
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Posted: 9/27/2018 9:04:03 AM EDT
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Local snare shop in Lidderdale Iowa has #16 for $347 a piece. I have size 13 feet and they fit in the jaws .
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Posted: 9/27/2018 11:19:11 AM EDT
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Local snare shop in Lidderdale Iowa has #16 for $347 a piece. I have size 13 feet and they fit in the jaws . |
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Posted: 9/27/2018 11:38:23 AM EDT
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Duke#16? I wish I could see one, or set one up and test it out before I buy.. I don’t wanna cheap replica.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Local snare shop in Lidderdale Iowa has #16 for $347 a piece. I have size 13 feet and they fit in the jaws . The traditional Newhouse #6 is at least double the weight of the #15. The #15 is for blacks and the #6 is for grizzlies. Trapping has a great deal more science than most would know. The trap must be sized so as to not break the bone, which is a fairly delicate balance--fast to make the catch, but without breaking the bone, then strong enough to hold. |
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Posted: 9/27/2018 11:50:32 AM EDT
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Start with a conibear 330 if you want to screw with something that has some ass to it, they are cheap enough and you can probably find one locally.
Don't mess with big traps, even on your own land, without knowing all the regs however. Many large traps are illegal for land sets in NY, they either need to be contained, so many feet off the ground, or fully submerged in water. You don't want to do this to someone's hunting dog. 
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Posted: 9/27/2018 12:33:55 PM EDT
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Start with a conibear 330 if you want to screw with something that has some ass to it, they are cheap enough and you can probably find one locally. Don't mess with big traps, even on your own land, without knowing all the regs however. Many large traps are illegal for land sets in NY, they either need to be contained, so many feet off the ground, or fully submerged in water. You don't want to do this to someone's hunting dog. http://www.wolfmatters.org/uploads/2/4/0/2/24020064/12807_orig.jpg
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