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Posted: 10/30/2023 3:03:18 PM EDT
It’s pretty slim pickins out there, unless you want a Chinese SFP piece of crap.

I’m looking for a 1-6x with the following specs:

FFP
mil/mil
capped turrets
illuminated reticle
30mm tube

I would normally order a 1-6x HD from SWFA but it looks like they discontinued that model.

I found this one on EuroOptic but I’ve never heard of this company:

https://www.eurooptic.com/SAI-Optics-SAI-6-1-6x24mm-1-MRAD-FFP-MIL-Rapid-Aiming-Feature-Riflescope-RNG16-B.aspx

This will be going on a 16” Recce, I’m not opposed to a 1-8x but would prefer a 1-6x with the above features since the eyebox is more forgiving.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:06:34 PM EDT
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I'm still rocking a Burris 1-4x. I can't afford to keep up.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:08:10 PM EDT
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My rifle with the 1-6 Delta Stryker is quickly becoming my general purpose rifle. I wish I would have bought another one when they were $650.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:21:00 PM EDT
[#3]
Seem pretty popular to me. Just not with the checklist you have.
Trijicon is the first thing that comes to mind
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:23:05 PM EDT
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I've been pretty disappointed with the 1-8 and 1-10 offerings to be honest. The eyebox is tight and there's usually a lot of other compromises made to get that magnification range. I find 1-6x is the sweet spot for me in terms of magnification to distance (for a 5.56 rifle anyways) and for eye box and picture clarity.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:24:35 PM EDT
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Damn, 1-6 Razors suck now? Damn you guys are fickle....
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:25:43 PM EDT
[#6]
1-6x goes better with SFP IMO.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:29:02 PM EDT
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Yes. Send me all your Zeiss 1-6.

It does seem 1-8 has gained ground
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:30:32 PM EDT
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OP wants FFP.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:30:38 PM EDT
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Eotech VUDU meets all your requirements, I think
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:30:53 PM EDT
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Agreed
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:33:38 PM EDT
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Vortex Razor 1-6 still show up on EE occasionally.

EDIT: I didn’t read the whole post before opening my trap.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:33:53 PM EDT
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Seriously considering the 1-6x Sig Tango-MSR LPVO for $279

I dont really need anything more for an AR in my area. Price difference goes up after that quite a bit, but i think it is a pretty decent optic for $300.

Any experience with this particular LPVO?
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:34:55 PM EDT
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Always did

NX8 or Atacr
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:38:07 PM EDT
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LPVO are great.  I personally still prefer my old 4x acog and RMR or red dot with a fixed magnification.  YMMV
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:40:50 PM EDT
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Internet is so full of opinions on this matter. So many solid choices nowadays. Don't get wrapped up into thinking this or that is "The best". If that was the case there'd only be Vortex razors, ATACR's and Khales out there. People get so hung up on the tiny nuances, when the reality is there's plenty on the market to choose from, and the high end shit comes with diminishing returns.

Budget - Credo 1-6 or Vudu

Mid grade - VCOG 1-6 or ATACR

High end - S&B short dot or March shorty

Just my opinion, nothing more. I suggest you buy, try, sell, buy, try, keep.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:41:05 PM EDT
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You guys are tripping balls not scooping up all the nx8s going for 1100 everywhere on the used market
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:42:16 PM EDT
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No kidding,  my Vortex ViperHS 1-4 is still going strong.  Sure, 1-6x would have been nice but the Razor was out of my price range!
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:43:27 PM EDT
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Such a solid scope for that used price range. Love em. Personally, prefer the VCOG over it though.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:47:26 PM EDT
[#19]
I really like my Burris RT-6.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:47:28 PM EDT
[#20]
Vortex1-6 still rocks
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:49:06 PM EDT
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Not FFP, and not tactical, but this is one of the most durable, best eyebox and lightest weight scopes I have ever owned.

At 14.7 ounces to me it’s a great scope for any gun your going to carry for a long period of time.

https://www.leupold.com/vx-5hd-1-5x24-cds-zl2-illum-firedot-duplex-riflescope-2
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:50:13 PM EDT
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Came to say this as well for 1-6
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:50:59 PM EDT
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Links?
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:53:47 PM EDT
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Seriously considering the 1-6x Sig LPVO for $279

I dont really need anything more for an AR in my area. Price difference goes up after that quite a bit, but i think it is a pretty decent optic for $300.

Any experience with this particular LPVO?
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Like someone else here has said, I'm still running a Burris 1-4 and just shot a 1.5" group at 100 yards with it this weekend. HOWEVER, I have been really intrigued by the Sig Sauer  Tango-MSR 1-8x24. Cal-Ranch has them for sale for $399 right now including the mount.. It's all I can to to stay away.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:54:49 PM EDT
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Leupold Patrol 6 HD 1-6 CDS



poors stay away
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:56:15 PM EDT
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In the EE constantly these days
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:56:51 PM EDT
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Rt6 is the best bang for buck 1-6 out there
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:58:24 PM EDT
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It’s pretty rare for me to use a variable.

Fixed and a red dot are generally what I run.

I DO like the 1-8 razor. Eye box not as bad as everyone makes them out to be.

Good glass.

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Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:58:58 PM EDT
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FFP doesn't make sense at 6x to me, but buy whatever you want I guess
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:59:29 PM EDT
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Whoa, like in the EE??
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 3:59:56 PM EDT
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In the EE constantly these days


I just looked and found one for $1175 that sold quick.

The rest averaged around $1400 like usual.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 4:01:34 PM EDT
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I still have a pair of Vortex 1-6 Strike-Eagle BDC optics on a couple of rifles and I love 'em.  The BDC reticle is really accurate with my loads and 6x is plenty of magnification for a .223.  I have the Strike-Eagle 1-8x on my AR10 and the BDC on that is dead on out to 600.  If you catch the 1-8 on sale with the free cantilever, IMO it's one of the better deals on the market.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 4:04:02 PM EDT
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OP, why do you think you want a FFP 1-6? Because I bet you'll regret that decision if go that route.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 4:05:17 PM EDT
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I just looked and found one for $1175 that sold quick.

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In the EE constantly these days


I just looked and found one for $1175 that sold quick.

The rest averaged around $1400 like usual.


One just sold with a nf uni mount for 1100.  It sat at that price for a week
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 4:06:41 PM EDT
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One just sold with a nf uni mount for 1100.  It sat at that price for a week
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In the EE constantly these days


I just looked and found one for $1175 that sold quick.

The rest averaged around $1400 like usual.


One just sold with a nf uni mount for 1100.  It sat at that price for a week


Dang.

I should watch ee more, I guess.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 4:08:14 PM EDT
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Dang.

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You guys are tripping balls not scooping up all the nx8s going for 1100 everywhere on the used market


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In the EE constantly these days


I just looked and found one for $1175 that sold quick.

The rest averaged around $1400 like usual.


One just sold with a nf uni mount for 1100.  It sat at that price for a week


Dang.

I should watch ee more, I guess.


Yup.  Stuff is only moving if it is absolutely dirt cheap.

Link Posted: 10/30/2023 4:13:26 PM EDT
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FFP is dumb in a LPVO. Just my opinion. You give up low mag performance too much.

That said. SAI 1-6 seems to be doing good.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 4:15:13 PM EDT
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Price tag $1,800
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 4:15:42 PM EDT
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Trijicon credo. It's a good scope, but the FFP is not daylight bright. I got mine for ~ $900 from euro optic right after they came out.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 4:16:37 PM EDT
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Nightforce NXS 1-4x.  I can't afford to keep up too.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 4:19:38 PM EDT
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There aren't many daylight bright FFP scopes. It's a small list.

Plus, as others mentioned, 1-6 works better in SFP since when you need magnification and your holds, 6X isn't too much magnification.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 4:22:28 PM EDT
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The mentality is at low end, you're using it more like a red dot.  The finer details of the reticle being readable isn't a concern.

The flipside is that any holdovers remain the same no matter the magnification level.  Of course, most just use them at minimum or max power, rarely anything in between.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 4:24:28 PM EDT
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Believe that’s for a 1-10x.

Link Posted: 10/30/2023 4:32:34 PM EDT
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Yep

I use it 1x or 6x. SFP is fine.

The 1-6 is perfect for a 5.56 gun.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 4:37:48 PM EDT
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Imo I much prefer either real scopes(2.5-10, etc or PA 3x micro prism)
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 4:39:11 PM EDT
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Like someone else here has said, I'm still running a Burris 1-4 and just shot a 1.5" group at 100 yards with it this weekend. HOWEVER, I have been really intrigued by the Sig Sauer  Tango-MSR 1-8x24. Cal-Ranch has them for sale for $399 right now including the mount.. It's all I can to to stay away.
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Seriously considering the 1-6x Sig LPVO for $279

I dont really need anything more for an AR in my area. Price difference goes up after that quite a bit, but i think it is a pretty decent optic for $300.

Any experience with this particular LPVO?



Like someone else here has said, I'm still running a Burris 1-4 and just shot a 1.5" group at 100 yards with it this weekend. HOWEVER, I have been really intrigued by the Sig Sauer  Tango-MSR 1-8x24. Cal-Ranch has them for sale for $399 right now including the mount.. It's all I can to to stay away.
I have a Sig MSR 1-6 on one of my ARs and I'm impressed with it.  Glass is clear.  Haven't seen any distortion between 25-100.  But I haven't really tested the illumination yet.  We have a covered range.  It does seem pretty bright at max while under cover.  Might be great outdoors in full sun.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 5:04:35 PM EDT
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Daylight bright 1-6 SFP for $339.

AutoLive battery cap $50.

ADM Recon QD mount (std, med, or high) for $240.

For $650 you can get a really good setup.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 5:11:20 PM EDT
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Just wait for Vortex to drop that British FDE 1-10 shorty.  Plenty of options out there and FFP is dumb under 8-10x
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 5:17:58 PM EDT
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I agree with SFP being best for a 1-6.

With that in mind, Vortex razor gen II-E was king for a long time. It’s still a great choice but is on the heavier side.

I’m looking at a Khales K16i currently.
Link Posted: 10/30/2023 5:18:20 PM EDT
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I’m down to one LPVO. They’re just not as fast or fun to shoot for me compared to a prism with an offset. I don’t shoot 5.56 past 400 yards so they’re mostly dead weight. That is for me though and I certainly don’t judge anyone who prefers a LPVO.
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