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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:06:32 PM EDT
[#1]
How much dirt would need to move for a walk out to be possible with the landscaping?
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:08:12 PM EDT
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If the wife sleeps with you (the contractor) they'll get a discount.
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:09:33 PM EDT
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Username is appropriate.
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:10:26 PM EDT
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no, not acceptable, price point doesn't matter
those are really only ok for crawl spaces and root cellar's IMO why exactly does the basement need an exterior entrance? Either it's a walk out or nada most everything i've ever seen. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:10:47 PM EDT
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Custom house next door has one.
They belong on the back side. Maybe hidden with a low wall in sensitive high fashion neighborhoods. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:12:38 PM EDT
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If the access is to a utility room or area you only access occasionally I think it's OK, but if you are making a second living space with its own entryway that would be kind of underwhelming
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:13:12 PM EDT
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Higher end homes in my area will often feature a Bilco door inside the back of the garage.
You can only see it if you look inside the garage. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:15:37 PM EDT
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How much dirt would need to move for a walk out to be possible with the landscaping? Kharn |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:26:09 PM EDT
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To a point, I'm in the area, $1-3mil homes all day long. Code requirement for egress, so when grade is not an option for walk out, you can either use bilco's or the "unusable" window well exit doors. But again, you can actually use the bilco's.
100% acceptable. Up the ante to a full stairwell walk out at the increased price point as well as footprint is what you really want in a custom higher end home (again, where graded walk out is not an option). |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:37:01 PM EDT
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You can do something like this.
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:39:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThis is way more typical.
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:42:09 PM EDT
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I can't imagine anyone wanting that if they're actually going to access on a regular basis... particularly the female persuasion..
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:42:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:43:49 PM EDT
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Execution is critical:
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:44:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is way more typical. http://stoneandpatiopros.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/c03a4735e6a8b577c5085471a86b3836.jpg |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:45:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is way more typical. http://stoneandpatiopros.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/c03a4735e6a8b577c5085471a86b3836.jpg |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:47:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is way more typical. http://stoneandpatiopros.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/c03a4735e6a8b577c5085471a86b3836.jpg |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:47:16 PM EDT
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I can't imagine anyone wanting that if they're actually going to access on a regular basis... particularly the female persuasion.. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:53:48 PM EDT
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A big plus to the bilco door is the extra layer of security, someone has to first break the bilco door to access the basement entryway. Especially if you keep shop or yard tools down there which a thief may want to steal.
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:54:02 PM EDT
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Can't recall the last time (if ever) I saw Bilcos on new construction.
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:55:30 PM EDT
[#21]
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:56:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
This is way more typical. http://stoneandpatiopros.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/c03a4735e6a8b577c5085471a86b3836.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
This is way more typical.
http://stoneandpatiopros.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/c03a4735e6a8b577c5085471a86b3836.jpg $6-800k |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:57:18 PM EDT
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Those full-blown open designs look good on any home, but a lot of people don’t realize that they fill up with snow and all kinds of bullshit and require frequent cleaning. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: This is way more typical. http://stoneandpatiopros.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/c03a4735e6a8b577c5085471a86b3836.jpg |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:58:00 PM EDT
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Saw these a lot at my BIL’s in Ashburn VA $6-800k Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is way more typical.
http://stoneandpatiopros.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/c03a4735e6a8b577c5085471a86b3836.jpg $6-800k |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 2:58:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those full-blown open designs look good on any home, but a lot of people don’t realize that they fill up with snow and all kinds of bullshit and require frequent cleaning. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 3:00:08 PM EDT
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no, not acceptable, price point doesn't matter those are really only ok for crawl spaces and root cellar's IMO why exactly does the basement need an exterior entrance? Either it's a walk out or nada most everything i've ever seen. Basements usually contain washer, dryer , furnace, hot water heater, HVAC items. chest freezers and things of that nature. A full basement needs an exterior entrance period. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 3:09:11 PM EDT
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I didn't know what a Bilco style door was.
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Posted: 7/7/2019 3:11:07 PM EDT
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I didn't know what a Bilco style door was. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 3:19:55 PM EDT
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Welcome to earth. Lol j/k, thanks for jumping in on the thread. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I didn't know what a Bilco style door was. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 3:29:17 PM EDT
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Today I learned what a Bilco door was :)
never heard of them before and it's something we seldom see in our area, if so mostly in the city on older(pre 1960s) homes. For the most part we have daylight basements. I do like the idea of a true basement but if it were me id want a ramp or something for exterior access |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 3:36:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Welcome to earth. Lol j/k, thanks for jumping in on the thread. I agree about the open stairs filling with snow and leaves and debris and water intrusion. It really is about execution, I saw a few things posted in this thread that looked pretty good. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 3:37:05 PM EDT
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I didn't know what a Bilco style door was. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 3:47:15 PM EDT
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This is way more typical. http://stoneandpatiopros.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/c03a4735e6a8b577c5085471a86b3836.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
This is way more typical.
http://stoneandpatiopros.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/c03a4735e6a8b577c5085471a86b3836.jpg |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 3:50:06 PM EDT
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I didn't know what a Bilco style door was. 
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Posted: 7/7/2019 3:50:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's a basement? |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 3:52:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI start construction next year and I’m going with something similar, though wider and flush.
Under the stairs in the basement, there will be storage shelves, and in the main floor, the stairs up to the 2nd floor will be over it, giving full headroom for the basement entrance. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 3:57:50 PM EDT
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I didn't know that was the name of the thing |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 4:07:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/7/2019 4:08:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/7/2019 4:11:20 PM EDT
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What is this? Quote HistoryQuoted:
What is this? 
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Posted: 7/7/2019 4:17:16 PM EDT
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What is this? Quote HistoryQuoted:
What is this? I had to look up Bilco doors as well. That’s what growing up in slab built houses will do to you. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 4:21:22 PM EDT
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This is way more typical. in the fall, during a hurricane or nor'easter, it will fill with leaves which will block water egress. the accumulating standing water will be forced under the doors. in the winter, that floor drain accumulate snow and will freeze over. the next snow+rain combo will force water under the doors. pro-tip: right after you install such a setup you should get the concrete saw out, open up the basement entry door, and make a french drain right inside the door. ask me how i know all this. ps: i have a 5" dia drain in mine, versus that puny 3" dia shown in the picture. that setup is going to have problems. ar-jedi FML, that setup is even worse now that i look at the picture. -- downspout discharges directly onto grade? hello hydrostatic pressure on the left side wall. moreover, it's deep enough to always have some latent water intrusion pressure all the way around. -- unless that setup has been rubber-waterproofed in every direction, it will be a mold and mildew and algae fiasco in short order. such setups do not get a lot of direct sunlight, and sunlight is the best cure-all for mold and mildew and algae etc. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 4:25:14 PM EDT
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such a setup is just a trap for leaves and debris. you have to constantly keep the drain clear. in the fall, during a hurricane or nor'easter, it will fill with leaves which will block water egress. the accumulating standing water will be forced under the doors. in the winter, that floor drain accumulate snow and will freeze over. the next snow+rain combo will force water under the doors. pro-tip: right after you install such a setup you should get the concrete saw out, open up the basement entry door, and make a french drain right inside the door. ask me how i know all this. ps: i have a 5" dia drain in mine, versus that puny 3" dia shown in the picture. that setup is going to have problems. ar-jedi Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is way more typical. http://stoneandpatiopros.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/c03a4735e6a8b577c5085471a86b3836.jpg in the fall, during a hurricane or nor'easter, it will fill with leaves which will block water egress. the accumulating standing water will be forced under the doors. in the winter, that floor drain accumulate snow and will freeze over. the next snow+rain combo will force water under the doors. pro-tip: right after you install such a setup you should get the concrete saw out, open up the basement entry door, and make a french drain right inside the door. ask me how i know all this. ps: i have a 5" dia drain in mine, versus that puny 3" dia shown in the picture. that setup is going to have problems. ar-jedi OP asked a question, I answered as to what is the NORM for a house at a certain price point. You don't have to like it. Do you not have landscapers or a snow removal company? They should be clearing that. And a properly designed drainage system ain't going to have that problem. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 4:27:45 PM EDT
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OP asked a question, I answered as to what is the NORM for a house at a certain price point. You don't have to like it. Do you not have landscapers or a snow removal company? They should be clearing that. And a properly designed drainage system ain't going to have that problem. ps landscapers come during a nor'easter or a hurricane? |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 4:30:29 PM EDT
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you don't have such a setup, i can already tell. ps landscapers come during a nor'easter or a hurricane? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP asked a question, I answered as to what is the NORM for a house at a certain price point. You don't have to like it. Do you not have landscapers or a snow removal company? They should be clearing that. And a properly designed drainage system ain't going to have that problem. ps landscapers come during a nor'easter or a hurricane? Your setup wasn't done right and I can tell you for a fact that I have a LOT of customers who have zero problems with water intrusion in similar setups even without clearing out. As for landscapers coming during noreasters, well, immediately after and during for the snow removal crew is pretty normal. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 4:37:48 PM EDT
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I don't have a setup, but as a contractor, I have worked on a home or two. Your setup wasn't done right and I can tell you for a fact that I have a LOT of customers who have zero problems with water intrusion in similar setups even without clearing out. As for landscapers coming during noreasters, well, immediately after and during for the snow removal crew is pretty normal. the next jobs you do like that, leave your business card taped to the inside of the door, with a note that says, "if water comes under this door, call this number". you need at least 5 times the drain area. i'm telling you, you need at least 5 times the drain area. i live in the same northeast region as you do -- and you need at least 5 times the drain area. in the fall, that setup is a leaf magnet -- and if the homeowner doesn't clear it prior to every rainfall, the drain will be blocked. this is borne from 10 years of experience. ar-jedi |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 4:41:17 PM EDT
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Da fuk is a bilco style door?
Okay, I googled it and found out it's a coffin-type door to something called a basement. Which we don't have in Texas. 
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Posted: 7/7/2019 4:42:20 PM EDT
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you need at least 5 times the drain area. i'm telling you, you need at least 5 times the drain area. i live in the same northeast region as you do -- and you need at least 5 times the drain area. |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 4:45:51 PM EDT
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In this thread, we learn that there are vast differences between "common practices" in residential construction across these United States...
You'd be amazed at how much difference a "minor climate difference" can make, in terms of what works and what doesn't... People try to apply things when they move to an area with which they're unfamiliar, like building a Cape Cod saltbox in a mountain area with heavy snow. Then, they wonder why the hell they've got moisture problems in their walls, because they don't have any eaves or gables... |
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Posted: 7/7/2019 4:48:37 PM EDT
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ok, so you haven't lived with it. the next jobs you do like that, leave your business card taped to the inside of the door, with a note that says, "if water comes under this door, call this number". you need at least 5 times the drain area. i'm telling you, you need at least 5 times the drain area. i live in the same northeast region as you do -- and you need at least 5 times the drain area. in the fall, that setup is a leaf magnet -- and if the homeowner doesn't clear it prior to every rainfall, the drain will be blocked. this is borne from 10 years of experience. ar-jedi Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't have a setup, but as a contractor, I have worked on a home or two. Your setup wasn't done right and I can tell you for a fact that I have a LOT of customers who have zero problems with water intrusion in similar setups even without clearing out. As for landscapers coming during noreasters, well, immediately after and during for the snow removal crew is pretty normal. the next jobs you do like that, leave your business card taped to the inside of the door, with a note that says, "if water comes under this door, call this number". you need at least 5 times the drain area. i'm telling you, you need at least 5 times the drain area. i live in the same northeast region as you do -- and you need at least 5 times the drain area. in the fall, that setup is a leaf magnet -- and if the homeowner doesn't clear it prior to every rainfall, the drain will be blocked. this is borne from 10 years of experience. ar-jedi |
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