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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:05:47 AM EDT
[#1]
No, they are not paid too much.
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:05:57 AM EDT
[#2]
If we can afford it yes.
Not paid too much. |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:06:09 AM EDT
[#3]
lol
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:07:02 AM EDT
[#4]
No.
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:08:11 AM EDT
[#5]
No. Its the absurd spending on MIC pork that robs them. Raytheon can get $20K for 5 screws you can get a Home Depot but our troops get worn out weapons and garbage to work with.
Then the Right screams for more Defense Spending like any of it will go to the troops. 
We could double the budget and troops would probably get an extra worn out magazine. 
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:08:12 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:09:19 AM EDT
[#7]
Some sure as fuck are.
Most however, are not. |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:09:37 AM EDT
[#8]
Fuck no pay us more.
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:10:18 AM EDT
[#9]
RAND salaries are too high.
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:10:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:13:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:15:00 AM EDT
[#12]
O or E?
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:18:56 AM EDT
[#13]
Enlisted men are paid garbage salaries.
I'm sure it's one of the factors in why my brother didn't stay in. |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:19:17 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote History |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:22:55 AM EDT
[#15]
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Well? https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/military-member-pay-rand-arroyo-center While armed service members and federal employees are set to get an equal pay raise in fiscal 2020 a new study calls into question whether a slew of raises throughout recent decades has pushed military pay too high. A recent report from the RAND Arroyo Center, which looked at three decades' worth of data, found that the current compensation structure might not be the most efficient for the armed services. RAND is a Department of Defense contractor. The study found, for example, that military pay has exceeded the 70th percentile for both enlisted and officers, which the author said raises the question of whether military pay is set too high when compared with civilian pay. The 70th percentile benchmark was put into place by the Defense Department in 1999, but researchers encourage the government to decide whether it is time to adjust that threshold in either direction. "Over the course of the 2000s, military pay relative to civilian pay increased substantially," the researcher wrote. "Compensation should be set high enough to attract and retain the quantity and quality of personnel the services require, and the level of compensation necessary to do this may or may not be at the 70th percentile." The study showed that enlisted member pay has been closer to the 90th percentile, while officers are near the 83rd. Cavuto must not to have had a 'sucking dick' handy when he had that written. |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:24:57 AM EDT
[#16]
They are paid enough when the military is meeting recruiting goals,
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:25:39 AM EDT
[#17]
Lol.
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:26:47 AM EDT
[#18]
Paid too much, No.
Too many members, Yes. Stop policing the world. |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:27:21 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
No, they are not paid too much. |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:31:47 AM EDT
[#20]
Those who defend our country aren't paid enough. Football players that spit on our country by kneeling are the ones that get paid too much....
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:32:51 AM EDT
[#21]
No, they are not.
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:33:29 AM EDT
[#22]
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Paid too much, No. Too many members, Yes. Stop policing the world. |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:33:36 AM EDT
[#23]
I don't think so. I am just a son of a Navy Chief, never served myself.
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:34:30 AM EDT
[#24]
Not even close.
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:35:17 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Enlisted men are paid garbage salaries. I'm sure it's one of the factors in why my brother didn't stay in. |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:36:12 AM EDT
[#26]
When you factor in time in the field, recall formations, CQ duty, late days, etc they’re probably underpaid.
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:38:22 AM EDT
[#27]
Nah. Just abolish the BATFE to pay for it.
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:40:37 AM EDT
[#28]
They deserve to be paid more I can guarantee that!
I don't know how much average pay is, but if the free shit brigade can live as comfortably as they do, military members should be living high on the hog! |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:46:57 AM EDT
[#29]
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Some sure as fuck are. Most however, are not. |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:48:55 AM EDT
[#30]
They'll be paid too much as soon as Rand employees takes a voluntary pay cut.
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:52:21 AM EDT
[#31]
As an E4 with 10 years in, I made $13 an hour on a deployment. That includes haz pay, BAH, getting hit with rockets and mortars.
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Posted: 12/21/2019 1:59:24 AM EDT
[#32]
High relative to civilian pay. Well, guess most civilians are getting paid like shit, doesn't mean the military has to be paid like shit too. Using the same logic the article could make a case for increasing minimum wage.
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Posted: 12/21/2019 2:04:34 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wouldn't say garbage, but I did pretty well this last year. You might not be doing that but under E-4 with less than 4 years in is making burger flipper money unless they get extra pay for various things. |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 2:06:42 AM EDT
[#34]
Pay is so good there are lines a mile long outside the recruitment office.
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Posted: 12/21/2019 2:07:07 AM EDT
[#35]
Not enough to go over and get killed, blown up or shot. There is no amount that is enough, I however think that welfare should stop and be given to vets past and present and they get the benefits of the free medical care plus the VA. Show me one welfare rat that deserves a free ride and I can show you 10s of thousands of service members who are getting shit on by our .gov
My brothers came back different after they got done with their tours in the sandbox. My 2nd to the oldest brother spent 9 fucking years in the middle east. He has never been the same man I knew back in the late 1990s. War changes people, no amount of money will cover it. They are getting peanuts compared to welfare funds and almost all service members contribute to society after leaving. |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 2:08:24 AM EDT
[#36]
For the fucked up knees, back and shoulder? Being exposed to burning vehicle, rotting dead bodies and sand for years on end? To be away from my wife and daughter? To watch my friends shot and blown apart? For cancer, for PTSD, for lead poisoning?
No, no we're not paid too much. Congress is paid too much. |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 2:10:02 AM EDT
[#37]
After just short of 5 years in the Army, I was an E5 making and super awesome $27k gross salary. Given the hours we actually worked (11 hours a day on a normal day, 20+ hours a day in the field or deployed), I don't think I was even getting paid minimum wage.
In the real world that would be called getting paid "jack shit." |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 2:11:16 AM EDT
[#38]
Officers are paid way too much, enlisted way too little
Given the shit enlisted deal with, its fucking criminal that some dipshit makes double what they do just cuz they went to college first Fuck all officers who weren't enlisted first |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 2:13:09 AM EDT
[#39]
Reports I’ve read have shown that enlistment numbers are going down and standards for acceptance are going down as well (things like asthma in childhood formerly being disqualifying, and now there is a workaround/waiver, and others).
The supply and demand economic principle may explain these, as the number of enlistments declines, the cost to hire new one increases until equilibrium is found. If military salaries have risen over the course of 2001-Present, I may propose that one factor may have been the lack of excitement to travel to Iraq and Afghanistan to be killed or maimed by a roadside bomb, among others. |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 2:13:10 AM EDT
[#40]
Are they fucking serious?
If the pay is too low, then nobody worth a fuck stays in. The DoD is the only thing I have no fucking problem being taxed to fund, and I believe taxation is theft. |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 2:14:19 AM EDT
[#41]
Paid too much ? No
Paid enough ? Yes If you joined just for the $ and free college $ you joined for wrong reasons. Shit when I joined it wasn't for the $. $542 base minus $100 a month GI bill, minus another $150 DP to savings account back home . Still had plenty of $ for beer and screwing around. Free food, free room, free healthcare.... Amazed at the number of people who pissed away every dime they made in service and got out dead broke. |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 2:16:33 AM EDT
[#42]
I think pay needs to be MUCH higher.
However, I believe standards need to be more strictly enforced. No one on PT waivers, med holds, etc. Can’t maintain HIGH standards, go elsewhere. Harsh, but the only way to pay a high enough wage that you only keep the best. Also, quit wasting money on family programs. Sorry, money should be spent on service members, all the extra perks to keep folks around could be negated by better pay. |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 2:16:39 AM EDT
[#43]
As an E-5 with a wife and child we qualified for WIC assistance based on my income. No, service members do not get paid too much.
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Posted: 12/21/2019 2:18:06 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
No, they are not paid too much. |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 2:20:09 AM EDT
[#45]
Some are paid too much.
Some are paid too little. Just like every employer (public or private). I've worked with some former military who were complete retards and some who were very capable of adapting to anything. |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 2:21:10 AM EDT
[#46]
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As an E4 with 10 years in, |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 2:21:33 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
As an E-5 with a wife and child we qualified for WIC assistance based on my income. No, service members do not get paid too much. |
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Posted: 12/21/2019 2:26:27 AM EDT
[#48]
Of all the government employees, I’d place the mil no where near the top 100 of over paid. Of all, Congress are the ones overpaid.
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Posted: 12/21/2019 2:26:28 AM EDT
[#49]
Some people are.
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Posted: 12/21/2019 2:29:14 AM EDT
[#50]
I'm not reading that garbage, but you can start to compare the military to civilians when the military only works a 40hr week, these people should STFU until that happens.
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