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Posted: 7/31/2018 2:19:07 PM EDT
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Its more fun to ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 2:20:08 PM EDT
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In response to post title. But why?
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Posted: 7/31/2018 2:20:43 PM EDT
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I can get 90 miles to the gallon on this hog...
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Posted: 7/31/2018 2:21:45 PM EDT
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No. 300s are slow. What's fun on the street is a 600-1300 twin or triple with upright riding position. What's really fun is a 450+ supermoto. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/478758/93718-625063.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/478758/93721-625064.JPG |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 2:22:51 PM EDT
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This guy gets it. 
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Posted: 7/31/2018 2:30:49 PM EDT
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First bike was a 1986 VF500F Honda. 4 banger.
I learned to manage it in the peak power curve in the twisties and the city. Tons of fun, but it took me a while to become comfortable with what it gave. Rode with guys that would hit the twisties on a EX250 and could leave me and the big bore guys in the dust. I would want bigger displacement for longer trips, but for commuting or a Saturday lunch sprint, they’re great. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 2:58:37 PM EDT
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I previously owned an EX250 and a GSXR750. My current only bike is a 996.
I'd love to have a Grom or RC390, too. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 5:38:02 PM EDT
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Can't see what's directly behind without a little flex, I always shoulder check if I'm turning or changing lanes. They let me see what's coming up on each side and they keep me legal, I didn't really care to keep replacing or removing standard or bar-end mirrors when I wanted to play in the woods. Even where they are, I've managed to somehow bust one, never found what hit it https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/173511/2012-10-06_17-43-48_202-625172.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cool looking bike ! The position of your mirrors, can you see behind you when they're like that ? They let me see what's coming up on each side and they keep me legal, I didn't really care to keep replacing or removing standard or bar-end mirrors when I wanted to play in the woods. Even where they are, I've managed to somehow bust one, never found what hit it https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/173511/2012-10-06_17-43-48_202-625172.JPG I just have folding mirrors on mine and that has worked out well enough so far. ( I'm riding an older TTR 225 that I converted to a dual sport with a Baja Designs kit, two sets of wheels, tires, chain, and a XT 225 sprocket. ) |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 5:45:38 PM EDT
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No. 300s are slow. What's fun on the street is a 600-1300 twin or triple with upright riding position. What's really fun is a 450+ supermoto. 
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Posted: 7/31/2018 5:50:46 PM EDT
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You keep hearing people say they ride circles around the bigger bikes in the twisties. The Yamaha YZF-R3 looks like a fun bike. His favorite bike? The GpZ 305.  
Abos-fucking-loutly gutless, but it would trun on a dime and stopped pretty good too. We rode in the SoCal canyons and in the tight stuff you could not catch him - going down hill. 
The guy rode like an animal too. If there was dirt on the road or a dirt shoulder he was in it or on it, sliding the rear end around. A lot of times it's not the bike, it's the rider. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 5:51:47 PM EDT
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Well considering you drive a Ninja 300: the car I guess I didn’t expect this thread from you of all people. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 5:54:09 PM EDT
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I want a KTM RC 390. I want one too. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 5:54:43 PM EDT
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No. 300s are slow. What's fun on the street is a 600-1300 twin or triple with upright riding position. What's really fun is a 450+ supermoto. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/478758/93718-625063.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/478758/93721-625064.JPG |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 6:53:41 PM EDT
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Sold my Harley in favor of a DRZSM - so much more fun around town
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Posted: 7/31/2018 6:56:15 PM EDT
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No. 300s are slow. What's fun on the street is a 600-1300 twin or triple with upright riding position. What's really fun is a 450+ supermoto. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/478758/93718-625063.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/478758/93721-625064.JPG |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 7:09:13 PM EDT
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My Ninja 250 was pretty fun. It was fun being able to keep the throttle pinned in curves- but you pretty much had to keep the throttle pinned all the time.
My 1000RR, though, was a BLAST. Just insanely fun.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 7:12:56 PM EDT
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I love this video.
 Ninja 250 vs. the big bikes at Laguna Seca |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 7:18:16 PM EDT
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I've ridden a CBR250. It's faster than a lawnmower I guess.
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Posted: 7/31/2018 7:20:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One does not "drive" a motorcycle, one RIDES a motorcycle. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 7:24:15 PM EDT
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In this thread the Harley haters get to have a circle jerk LOL
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Posted: 7/31/2018 7:24:31 PM EDT
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No!
There's no replacement for displacement. 
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Posted: 7/31/2018 7:29:08 PM EDT
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Werent those 2 strokes? |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 7:34:38 PM EDT
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I'm waiting on more electric powered bikes
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Posted: 7/31/2018 7:44:20 PM EDT
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Get a grom and find someone to turbo it 
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Posted: 7/31/2018 7:49:56 PM EDT
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I specifically sought out my Ninja 300. I wanted to add a smaller streetbike, and the 300-class is perfect.
After getting it, I sold my SV650S, as it always got passed over in favor of the little Ninja. The Ninja feels like it weighs nothing, wants to have the crap revved out of it, and is just plain more fun. As it is, I've consolidated down to two bikes now - the little 300, and a Super Tenere. The Ninja is for those occasions when I want to blast around on a sporty bike, the Tenere is for everything else. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The ninja 300 is great for screaming around town, really light and I can throw it around like it weighs nothing, fun to go WOT and shift through some gears without hitting triple digit speeds and it gets up to 120 mph quick enough, got most of the performance mods, full exhaust and tune flashed ECM, love it. 
What gearing are you running? |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 7:56:40 PM EDT
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250 Ninjas were 4 stroke twins There were actually two CBR250RRs for sale at VMD this year; one sold during the day Saturday. Were from a group that privately imports JDM bikes. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 8:01:49 PM EDT
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Goddamn I wish I didn’t read this. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Get a grom and find someone to turbo it |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 8:08:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One small bike that's a lot of fun is the new 400 Ninja. https://www.cycleworld.com/sites/cycleworld.com/files/styles/2000_1x_/public/images/2017/10/kawasaki_ninja_400_top.jpg I use to have a VF 500 Interceptor. It was dog slow compared to the 600s of the day. But then, that's probably why I'm still alive.
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:50:25 AM EDT
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There were also JDM I4 4-stroke 250s, but I don't know if they ever carried the 'Ninja' moniker. The other three of the Big Four also did the same. Screaming little 4-cylinders, with redlines up around 19k. Late eighties to mid nineties bikes. Those would be an absolute blast. If one of the Big Four were to resurrect the platform and offer it in the states, I would literally order one as soon as I could. There were actually two CBR250RRs for sale at VMD this year; one sold during the day Saturday. Were from a group that privately imports JDM bikes.  It's not as pretty as the NSR,TZR or RGV but Kawasaki's 250 was faster than all of them. One of these will beat the stuffing out of a new 400. 
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Posted: 8/1/2018 2:04:46 PM EDT
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My lotto winner bike purchase would be:
Aprilia RS250 and a pile of spares 2 more as backups CSS and Pridmore track classes More orthopedic surgery.
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Posted: 8/1/2018 2:14:08 PM EDT
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Different kinds of fun.
Having 160hp on tap in your right hand is a special kind of fun. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 2:25:47 PM EDT
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Started out on a 1985 Honda Interceptor, good bike to learn on. In 2003 I bought a brand new GSXR 750 and rode that for 4 years. I had a Z1000 a few years ago just because it was a good deal but I much prefer fairings. I sold it due to my shoulder but if I ever buy another bike it won’t be smaller than a 1000.
I’d be cool if someone made a street legal 500cc two stroke |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 2:59:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe smaller cc bikes like the 150cc class are popular in Asia where their tracks tend to be tighter and shorter, it's a lot of fun to go watch those guys absolutely flog those small bikes. You can buy replica race bikes for under $3000 so they're pretty popular though not nearly so popular as the much more practical underbone bikes. HONDA CBR150R Repsol
The guy in the yellow is rocking it old school. LOL  ????????1??(???????????in??2015)  BRIC Superbike Championship 2015 (Exciter 150) |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 3:07:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2018 3:09:37 PM EDT
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Not many twisties here in the Midwest but from your descriptions my 1983 Suzuki GR650 should be right at home. 650cc at 399 lbs. Still, only 50 advertised HP but isn't exactly slow.
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Posted: 8/1/2018 3:17:10 PM EDT
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hell ya small bikes rock! |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 4:02:04 PM EDT
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No. 300s are slow. What's fun on the street is a 600-1300 twin or triple with upright riding position. What's really fun is a 450+ supermoto. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/478758/93718-625063.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/478758/93721-625064.JPG I've had a couple sportbikes and now a Ducati. I'll only be buying more Ducatis. The tq is amazing. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 6:02:20 PM EDT
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The guy in the yellow is rocking it old school. LOL  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDJZjdKai24 |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 6:08:33 PM EDT
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Gsxr 750s are fun https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/398238/B9478548-1A39-45EE-99B1-AD4CD6EC1ACD-626279.JPG
I don’t know if you watch 44teeth or not, but they’re 2 British guys that do super sport bike stuff. They just had a budget bike battle with an old SRAD 750 vs an old ZX-7R. Was an awesome series @Pesty |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 6:10:51 PM EDT
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My Concours 14s are my "little" bikes. Both are more fun than a hand in a barrel full of tits; your road matters not. The others are a couple of big, high-powered baggers. I've got to squeeze that 1290 SA-S into the garage somehow. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 6:28:51 PM EDT
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SRAD? Very nice
I don’t know if you watch 44teeth or not, but they’re 2 British guys that do super sport bike stuff. They just had a budget bike battle with an old SRAD 750 vs an old ZX-7R. Was an awesome series @Pesty No not seen it. Don’t ride any more there was something about that bike it was crazy fast. Replaced it with a GSXr1000 but missed thrashing the 750 to keep up with the litre bikes. The thou was too easy to ride fast with the extra torque not as fun but I never liked 600s 750 is the sweet spot for me. Sold that bike to a mate for next to nothing because it didn’t want to see it go. He kept it for years when he sold it he warned the guy it was fast,,. He wrote it off on the way home :( The girls liked it too  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 6:35:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @MILSPEC556 No not seen it. Don’t ride any more there was something about that bike it was crazy fast. Replaced it with a GSXr1000 but missed thrashing the 750 to keep up with the litre bikes. The thou was too easy to ride fast with the extra torque not as fun but I never liked 600s 750 is the sweet spot for me. Sold that bike to a mate for next to nothing because it didn’t want to see it go. He kept it for years when he sold it he warned the guy it was fast,,. He wrote it off on the way home :( The girls liked it too https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/398238/40CA7A1D-F75D-4FA6-B52A-A91A90F025EE-626479.JPG I have an Integra GSR over here with the Type R lip and wing... no badges of course cause that's gay. It's Milano Red as well. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 6:42:30 PM EDT
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Not seeing any tires on any of these posted bikes showing any signs of real use in the twisties...
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Posted: 8/1/2018 6:44:41 PM EDT
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You can easily reel in scrubs on a 250 Single but it requires you to be at absolute boil doing stupid shit on inconsistent road surfaces + opposing traffic.
Every supermoto/smallbore guy wants to fantasize about chasing down 600-1000's in the twisty but in reality your just putting along behind them ZzzZzz and if were talking 80% of the other roads aka flatistan strightsville any mouth breather can roll-on 100+ HP and blast the fairings off ya. If you ride for your ego nothing will ever satisfy like a 1000cc |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:07:50 PM EDT
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no.
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:19:13 PM EDT
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Ask the guys on the Groms.
Yes, much more fun. Can't remember who said it but it was something like "It is a lot more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow." Some examples; Ninja 250 Ural Patrol Grom |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:40:53 PM EDT
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Every supermoto/smallbore guy wants to fantasize about chasing down 600-1000's in the twisty but in reality your just putting along behind them ZzzZzz |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 8:04:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh, corner speed is where its at. Any jackass can twist the throttle and think they are fast in a straight line Shitty riders park it in the corners no matter what they are on. I've crushed guys on liter bikes on the tracks on a supermoto and have had my ass handed to me on my R6 by a chic on a clapped out 500. I love singles and small bores and agree that they can be a hoot to ride, but some folks seem to think they are “just as good as” bigger bikes in the same scenarios. A competent rider on a well set up 300,450 whatever will not hang with a rider of equal skill on a well sorted sport bike in the 600cc and up category. Twisties, straights, whereever. If you are hanging with a dude on a 1000cc sportbike, who knows how to ride, while you’re on your ninja 300 or 450 supermoto, it’s because he is letting you. But many will continue to indulge in the fantasy |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 8:20:40 PM EDT
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I agree with the anybody can go fast on a high output bike part, but in the second part of your post you’re comparing riders, not bikes. I love singles and small bores and agree that they can be a hoot to ride, but some folks seem to think they are “just as good as” bigger bikes in the same scenarios. A competent rider on a well set up 300,450 whatever will not hang with a rider of equal skill on a well sorted sport bike in the 600cc and up category. Twisties, straights, whereever. If you are hanging with a dude on a 1000cc sportbike, who knows how to ride, while you’re on your ninja 300 or 450 supermoto, it’s because he is letting you. But many will continue to indulge in the fantasy |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 8:59:25 PM EDT
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SRAD? Very nice
I don’t know if you watch 44teeth or not, but they’re 2 British guys that do super sport bike stuff. They just had a budget bike battle with an old SRAD 750 vs an old ZX-7R. Was an awesome series @Pesty Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Gsxr 750s are fun https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/398238/B9478548-1A39-45EE-99B1-AD4CD6EC1ACD-626279.JPG
I don’t know if you watch 44teeth or not, but they’re 2 British guys that do super sport bike stuff. They just had a budget bike battle with an old SRAD 750 vs an old ZX-7R. Was an awesome series @Pesty
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