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Posted: 6/22/2016 4:45:04 AM EDT
Or would you sit behind the wheel like a hyper-alert guard dog just waiting to stomp the breaks, hit the button, whatever option is left to you?

I'm not down with that shit, I don't care how they package it.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 4:49:11 AM EDT
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I can barely stand riding in a car with someone else driving.  Sitting there while the car drives itself is gonna take some conditioning.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 4:52:12 AM EDT
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Exactly.  I can barely tolerate someone else driving. Much less a fucking wifi connected computer that some fucker in wherever can hack and drive me into a lake.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 4:57:22 AM EDT
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Exactly.  I can barely tolerate someone else driving. Much less a fucking wifi connected computer that some fucker in wherever can hack and drive me into a lake.




 
I'd trust a computer to operate properly on the road way more than most people.

Computers don't get high, drunk, distracted, tired, or angry.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 4:57:23 AM EDT
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I'll be on my tablet posting here.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 5:02:46 AM EDT
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I can barely stand riding in a car with someone else driving.  Sitting there while the car drives itself is gonna take some conditioning.


Exactly.  I can barely tolerate someone else driving. Much less a fucking wifi connected computer that some fucker in wherever can hack and drive me into a lake.

  I'd trust a computer to operate properly on the road way more than most people.
Computers don't get high, drunk, distracted, tired, or angry.


You don't think people will hack those vehicles and play them like Koreans on Starcraft? Who can rack up the best crashes / kills?

Got a family of six in their Google mini-van!  Beat that bitch!

Because that is what will happen.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 5:07:07 AM EDT
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I can barely stand riding in a car with someone else driving.  Sitting there while the car drives itself is gonna take some conditioning.


Exactly.  I can barely tolerate someone else driving. Much less a fucking wifi connected computer that some fucker in wherever can hack and drive me into a lake.

  I'd trust a computer to operate properly on the road way more than most people.
Computers don't get high, drunk, distracted, tired, or angry.

Link Posted: 6/22/2016 5:09:29 AM EDT
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How much less will my insurance cost if I let it drive?
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 5:10:19 AM EDT
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No, never.

How can they program a car to make a split second decision to react to a situation that is unwinnable? Total hypothetical, crash is imminent, car doesn't veer and likelihood of great injury or death to passengers 95%, if car veers, 75% chance bystander injury or death with car occupants injury rate falling to 25% w/ no deaths.

Artificial intelligence and proper fuzzy logic are years if not decades away from being that good. Even then still, some pencil pusher/bean counter will be setting the threshold of who gets fucked, no thanks.

I'll rely on my brain and much better than average reaction/reflexes.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 5:10:26 AM EDT
[#9]
Nope.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 5:10:46 AM EDT
[#10]
Of course. I'll make my choice on data, not feels.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 5:15:39 AM EDT
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I'll be asleep before it reaches the end of the driveway.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 5:18:25 AM EDT
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It can be done to cars now, yet it has not happened.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 5:19:19 AM EDT
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No, never.

How can they program a car to make a split second decision to react to a situation that is unwinnable? Total hypothetical, crash is imminent, car doesn't veer and likelihood of great injury or death to passengers 95%, if car veers, 75% chance bystander injury or death with car occupants injury rate falling to 25% w/ no deaths.

Artificial intelligence and proper fuzzy logic are years if not decades away from being that good. Even then still, some pencil pusher/bean counter will be setting the threshold of who gets fucked, no thanks.

I'll rely on my brain and much better than average reaction/reflexes.
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None of that will be a problem when every car on the road is driven by computers.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 5:20:13 AM EDT
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No, never.



How can they program a car to make a split second decision to react to a situation that is unwinnable? Total hypothetical, crash is imminent, car doesn't veer and likelihood of great injury or death to passengers 95%, if car veers, 75% chance bystander injury or death with car occupants injury rate falling to 25% w/ no deaths.



Artificial intelligence and proper fuzzy logic are years if not decades away from being that good. Even then still, some pencil pusher/bean counter will be setting the threshold of who gets fucked, no thanks.



I'll rely on my brain and much better than average reaction/reflexes.
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Or the car detects dangerous conditions in about 5ms than performs emergency breaking. Stopping the car before crashing and without veering causing harm to anyone.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 5:22:16 AM EDT
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No, never.

How can they program a car to make a split second decision to react to a situation that is unwinnable? Total hypothetical, crash is imminent, car doesn't veer and likelihood of great injury or death to passengers 95%, if car veers, 75% chance bystander injury or death with car occupants injury rate falling to 25% w/ no deaths.

Artificial intelligence and proper fuzzy logic are years if not decades away from being that good. Even then still, some pencil pusher/bean counter will be setting the threshold of who gets fucked, no thanks.

I'll rely on my brain and much better than average reaction/reflexes.

None of that will be a problem when every car on the road is driven by computers.


If you believe that you must be totally unfamiliar with how machines, computers, and murphys law works.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 5:24:24 AM EDT
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If you believe that you must be totally unfamiliar with how machines, computers, and murphys law works.
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No, never.

How can they program a car to make a split second decision to react to a situation that is unwinnable? Total hypothetical, crash is imminent, car doesn't veer and likelihood of great injury or death to passengers 95%, if car veers, 75% chance bystander injury or death with car occupants injury rate falling to 25% w/ no deaths.

Artificial intelligence and proper fuzzy logic are years if not decades away from being that good. Even then still, some pencil pusher/bean counter will be setting the threshold of who gets fucked, no thanks.

I'll rely on my brain and much better than average reaction/reflexes.

None of that will be a problem when every car on the road is driven by computers.


If you believe that you must be totally unfamiliar with how machines, computers, and murphys law works.

I'm not saying when or where it will be first implemented, but it's only a matter of time.  The question is just when.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 5:26:24 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/22/2016 5:26:30 AM EDT
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Wake me up when we get there..
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 5:30:57 AM EDT
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I don't trust Google or Apple or Tesla with anything, much less my life.

But if all the features are ironed out, sure, why not?

Siri, drive this car at 80 mph and wake me up in 3 hours.

Yeah.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 5:31:19 AM EDT
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fuck that I'll stick to my self driving horse
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 5:36:05 AM EDT
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It's going to happen.  


https://www.cbinsights.com/blog/autonomous-driverless-vehicles-corporations-list/

That's from a few months ago.  You think some of the world's biggest companies would be spending billions of dollars on this stuff if it wasn't going to happen?  Be realistic.  

Link Posted: 6/22/2016 6:43:23 AM EDT
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You don't think people will hack those vehicles and play them like Koreans on Starcraft? Who can rack up the best crashes / kills?

Got a family of six in their Google mini-van!  Beat that bitch!

Because that is what will happen.

  It can be done to cars now, yet it has not happened.


That we know of.
Companies are investing billions and billions into this, don't you think they'd cover shit like that up?




I trust computers more than people at this point, and I hate computers.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 6:47:43 AM EDT
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I'll give it 10 years and look at the statistics.



No need to trust in a technology until it is proven to be reasonably safe.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 6:56:51 AM EDT
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More than I trust the idiots behind the wheel out there now.



A LOT more...
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:03:33 AM EDT
[#25]
For an extra half hour of sleep in the morning, heald hour reading Arf in the afternoon and easy trips to the grandparents' or vacation? That would be awesome.

Kharn

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Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:04:40 AM EDT
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Just think how awesome a self driving RV would be?
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:06:05 AM EDT
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Yup.



They'll be way better drivers than most people.




People get distracted or bored too easily behind the wheel.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:17:00 AM EDT
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Pffff.....already have for years everytime I step aboard a commercial airliner.

I'm old enough to remember when cruise control became common on cars.  People were freaked out about that thinking it wouldn't allow them to stop, etc, etc..  I remember the freaky feeling the first time I felt the pedal automatically go down under my foot and the vehicle accelerating.  Nowadays we don't give a single crap about it.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:18:34 AM EDT
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I'm 100% in favor of driverless cars for all the texting idiots out there whose social lives are more important than everyone elses life around them.

I see morons all the time dorking with their makeup or their phones while driving and I say to myself "YOU get an auto driving car.... and YOU get one..."

Me? I like driving. I don't need an auto driving car. But I'd sure love to see some of them on the road chauffering the social set once the tech is mature. That said, the bar is set low: every day I see morons whose driving ability sucks, and is made worse by being distracted. How can an auto driving car be much worse...?
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:21:11 AM EDT
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Nope
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:22:02 AM EDT
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You don't think people will hack those vehicles and play them like Koreans on Starcraft? Who can rack up the best crashes / kills?

Got a family of six in their Google mini-van!  Beat that bitch!

Because that is what will happen.
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I can barely stand riding in a car with someone else driving.  Sitting there while the car drives itself is gonna take some conditioning.


Exactly.  I can barely tolerate someone else driving. Much less a fucking wifi connected computer that some fucker in wherever can hack and drive me into a lake.

  I'd trust a computer to operate properly on the road way more than most people.
Computers don't get high, drunk, distracted, tired, or angry.


You don't think people will hack those vehicles and play them like Koreans on Starcraft? Who can rack up the best crashes / kills?

Got a family of six in their Google mini-van!  Beat that bitch!

Because that is what will happen.

Make that shit PPV and take bets.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:23:19 AM EDT
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Could you imagine making its voice yoda and hot boxing it with all your friends on the way to the beer store
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:29:29 AM EDT
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What happens when I want to go protest Obama's fifth inauguration and the computer won't allow me because of "safety" concerns?

I prefer to keep my freedom.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:33:32 AM EDT
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I'll pass, at least for a decade.

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They have a lot more space to work with, and don't have to navigate road stripes which are snowed over or worn out, construction zones, pedestrians, etc.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:34:12 AM EDT
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Won't be driverless.  I mean, there is Johnny...

Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:34:50 AM EDT
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I trust computers more than I do you.  And no matter how fast you are, a computer is faster.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:35:08 AM EDT
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IDK, they've been flying planes like that for a while
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:35:59 AM EDT
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You first, bro.

I'l hold yer beer.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:37:54 AM EDT
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Have you seen some of the drivers on the road, OP?

I can't imagine computers being any worse at that task.

That said, I actually enjoy driving.  Taking away my car and my ability to drive would be akin to 2A repeal/confiscation.  "Out of my cold, dead hands."  

But to sit in the back of a plush car generating billable hours while it drives me to my next destination?  Hmmmmm
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:38:45 AM EDT
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Fuck no.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:39:08 AM EDT
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Not likely but if it the technology could be proven safer than my driving I would consider it.

I don't see that happening in my lifetime.

Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:40:29 AM EDT
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if after a proven track record I'd probably trust it, more so than a bunch of stoned or texting drivers on the road
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:41:38 AM EDT
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they'll be the go to option for people with no or a revoked driver's license too
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:45:21 AM EDT
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I'm not down with that shit, I don't care how they package it.
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You trust your life and you family's life to random assholes every time you drive your car right now. The question is what do you trust more, a system that relies on the competence of everyone else on the road, or one that relies on the competence of the designers and coders who develop the system?

Personally, I think the fear of the autonomous vehicles is overblown but not totally unjustified, especially when you take an honest look at the current way.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:47:46 AM EDT
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The current generation of people will have a hard time with it, huge paradigm shift.

Once the tech is solid, and common place, the following generations will view it the same way we view the telephone, always been there, and handy to have.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:49:03 AM EDT
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Not likely but if it the technology could be proven safer than my driving I would consider it.

I don't see that happening in my lifetime.

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Unless you're 80, it will happen in your lifetime.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:51:49 AM EDT
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Cracks heads , dumbfucks who can't even make a hamburger right, drunks, stoned, 16 yo kids, makeup putting on whores, texting self absorbed dipshits, deminished capacity old folks, high speed chase, French fries eating fat fucks.

I'm looking forward to other people not driving around me.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:55:01 AM EDT
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Or would you sit behind the wheel like a hyper-alert guard dog just waiting to stomp the breaks, hit the button, whatever option is left to you?

I'm not down with that shit, I don't care how they package it.
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The technology seems very new, and not tested much in the "real world".  I can't imagine that the system would be able to react quick enough in every situation that might pop up.  Not sure I would trust it.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 7:55:43 AM EDT
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Hell no.
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