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Posted: 9/28/2021 9:47:18 PM EDT
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Quoted: This right here [/Thread] It grows fast, is brutally pokey, but good luck ever getting rid of it. https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rBBx8OPbRrk/TehT6sCGR7I/AAAAAAAAAko/N7IrnMRhjtQ/s1600/14_W_IMG_7577trim-800.jpg Quoted: honey locust Seriously, fuck these trees. https://cdn.britannica.com/61/10961-050-0859D3D6/Leaves-pods-trunk-honey-locust.jpg Fuck both of these. My property is invested with both of them.  Between them and Autumn Olive, it's a full-time job just keeping travelable timber. |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 9:47:32 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd say trifoliate orange or flying dragon citrus, but I think you just beat that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: honey locust Seriously, fuck these trees. https://cdn.britannica.com/61/10961-050-0859D3D6/Leaves-pods-trunk-honey-locust.jpg I'd say trifoliate orange or flying dragon citrus, but I think you just beat that. what would the spacing need to be to make those work? |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 9:48:27 PM EDT
[#3]
Blackberry should grow in your area. Also, not sure how you'd obtain them, but nettles are the worst in summer. They grow in VA, so I imagine they will grow in your AO.
Stuff like poison ivy won't work well, as it doesn't provide the immediate dissuasive effect. |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 9:49:45 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fucking holly. |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 9:49:51 PM EDT
[#5]
 Poison Garden Tour ? just go all out and hope for the best |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 9:49:51 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Multi floral rose Nasty stuff, will cut a person to shreds once it matures, spreads a lot. |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 9:51:12 PM EDT
[#7]
Holly is good, with the added bonus of being an evergreen.
Blackthorn would be an interesting option, and has the added benefit of being able to harvest sloes later, and eventually the wood for really tough walking sticks / clubs. |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 9:51:24 PM EDT
[#8]
Can you raise ground bees? Lord knows I’ve found those often enough playing paintball. They will certainly act as area denial.
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Posted: 9/28/2021 9:51:29 PM EDT
[#9]
You would be well served if these grew in OK. They are sharp, able to penetrate clothing and even have a little irritant to round out your day.
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Posted: 9/28/2021 9:52:08 PM EDT
[#10]
Monkey Tree?
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Posted: 9/28/2021 9:53:22 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Poison Ivy. |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 9:54:01 PM EDT
[#12]
I woulda filled that bitch with razor wire, after they fucked with my truck. ???????
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Posted: 9/28/2021 9:57:14 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Around here we use cactus. Even better if you can get Cholla to grow. Shit, worst lesson I learned as a little kid was Cholla. It was a long trek home to finally get my parents to 'fix' that mess. I have a very healthy respect to this day having been out of AZ for many years. |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 9:58:57 PM EDT
[#14]
Spanish Bayonet. Grows fast and NO one is getting through a dense planting.
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Posted: 9/28/2021 9:59:55 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: honey locust Seriously, fuck these trees. https://cdn.britannica.com/61/10961-050-0859D3D6/Leaves-pods-trunk-honey-locust.jpg This, it can be cut into a hedge. You have to have a run in with it to realize how much damage it can do. |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:00:16 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, that shit is nature's version of concertina wire. Not even an NVA sapper could wriggle through an area covered with mature multiflora rose. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Multiflora rose This shit will take over in a year. Impassable I suggest you really research this before planting as it is prolific Yep, that shit is nature's version of concertina wire. Not even an NVA sapper could wriggle through an area covered with mature multiflora rose. You cannot break through this shit even with thorn britches on. If I had to negotiate concertina wire or multiflora rose, I'd pick the wire. |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:00:35 PM EDT
[#17]
Rose, cactus, potted plum trees. I am partial to the wild plum, some varieties have thorns that can get a few inches long. They are known to puncture tires and impale things that aren't paying attention
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:01:22 PM EDT
[#18]
Holly, blackberry, giant hogweed, Pyracantha, cactus
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:02:09 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Shit, worst lesson I learned as a little kid was Cholla. It was a long trek home to finally get my parents to 'fix' that mess. I have a very healthy respect to this day having been out of AZ for many years. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Around here we use cactus. Even better if you can get Cholla to grow. Shit, worst lesson I learned as a little kid was Cholla. It was a long trek home to finally get my parents to 'fix' that mess. I have a very healthy respect to this day having been out of AZ for many years. Having grown up around OKC, cactus grows wild there but nothing like in AZ or TX. It’s that little tiny button looking cactus with thorns like fine hairs. It’s hell to pick out if you grab one. But not really an area denial type of thing. I think you’d have to work pretty hard to grow something like cholla or prickly pear there. |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:03:17 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rose, cactus, potted plum trees. I am partial to the wild plum, some varieties have thorns that can get a few inches long. They are known to puncture tires and impale things that aren't paying attention Sandplum will grow quite well in OKC, given the right soil and adequate water. |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:06:26 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Blackberry should grow in your area. Also, not sure how you'd obtain them, but nettles are the worst in summer. They grow in VA, so I imagine they will grow in your AO. Stuff like poison ivy won't work well, as it doesn't provide the immediate dissuasive effect. |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:08:53 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Whatever you do, talk about it with your attorney to make sure you're not setting yourself up for failure somehow. I bet plants with prickers would be a better bet than concertina wire. I guess claymores are off the table then |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:08:56 PM EDT
[#23]
Pyracantha is the answer to your problem. That stuff is nature's wrath incarnate.
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:10:28 PM EDT
[#24]
I’ve planted a bunch of rotunda Hollie’s in section 8 housing. They always specified to be in front of windows, and we would put them around the fencing to discourage people from cutting the fence. They would still hang on the gates and break them often though
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:11:39 PM EDT
[#25]
Blackberry for several reasons. You're welcome.
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:12:55 PM EDT
[#26]
Poison ivy mixed with crown of thorns?
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:15:30 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: wouldnt overwinter in okc. hell pyracantha wouldnt after this passed spring I'm 200 miles north of OKC and pyracantha overwinters just fine, so long as you pick the right variety. There are varieties that are wintersafe to 5a and 5b. |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:15:43 PM EDT
[#28]
Came to suggest Pyracantha or Locust. Left with some really good additional options.
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:17:00 PM EDT
[#29]
Russian olive is one that hasn't been mentioned
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:18:45 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: what would the spacing need to be to make those work? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: honey locust Seriously, fuck these trees. https://cdn.britannica.com/61/10961-050-0859D3D6/Leaves-pods-trunk-honey-locust.jpg I'd say trifoliate orange or flying dragon citrus, but I think you just beat that. what would the spacing need to be to make those work? On trifoliate orange I would put in double or triple rows of plants spaced 8-10” apart. |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:19:47 PM EDT
[#31]
Wow. Lot more options than I realized.
Where does one acquire these? |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:24:11 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess claymores are off the table then Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Whatever you do, talk about it with your attorney to make sure you're not setting yourself up for failure somehow. I bet plants with prickers would be a better bet than concertina wire. I guess claymores are off the table then 
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:25:28 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You cannot break through this shit even with thorn britches on. If I had to negotiate concertina wire or multiflora rose, I'd pick the wire. |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:26:01 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Russian olive is one that hasn't been mentioned DO NOT EVER PLANT THIS STUFF This shit will take over and out grow everything . It is horribly invasive |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:26:17 PM EDT
[#35]
hawthorns are a killer... dunno if you could fashion them into a bush or not... they also look great when in bloom.
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:26:57 PM EDT
[#36]
My vote is giant hogweed
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:28:08 PM EDT
[#37]
If you like blackberries, then plant the vines They have a really mean thorn
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:28:57 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm 200 miles north of OKC and pyracantha overwinters just fine, so long as you pick the right variety. There are varieties that are wintersafe to 5a and 5b. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: wouldnt overwinter in okc. hell pyracantha wouldnt after this passed spring I'm 200 miles north of OKC and pyracantha overwinters just fine, so long as you pick the right variety. There are varieties that are wintersafe to 5a and 5b. i meant the bougainvillea wouldnt overwinter. it is native to central america |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:28:57 PM EDT
[#39]
Barberrys
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:33:13 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pyracantha is the answer to your problem. That stuff is nature's wrath incarnate. It used to be pretty popular here under windows and the house I grew up in had it. The tips of the thorns like to break off under your skin and get infected. Luckily for us my dad was quick with the mercurochrome from everything. 
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:36:16 PM EDT
[#41]
Cherokee rose...
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:38:26 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: hawthorns are a killer... dunno if you could fashion them into a bush or not... they also look great when in bloom.  Used to have an indian hawthorne in front of my dining room window. You can definitely make a nice hedge out of them and they are pretty if they get a lot of direct sun (and that’s in a place three hours south of OKC). They weren’t worse than any other thick growing bush otherwise though. |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:42:55 PM EDT
[#43]
Try playing classical music until the thorns grow out.
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:50:44 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Try playing classical music until the thorns grow out. Why though? |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:51:50 PM EDT
[#45]
Giant Hogweed
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Posted: 9/28/2021 10:55:33 PM EDT
[#46]
OST
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Posted: 9/28/2021 11:00:29 PM EDT
[#47]
cocklebur, goatheads and sand burs would be persuasive, too
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Posted: 9/28/2021 11:01:41 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: cocklebur, goatheads and sand burs would be persuasive, too |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 11:04:41 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They're wearing shoes, so probably not. so you want a plant to scare them away? most of these plants are barriers due to interacting with them, not just looking at them. an intruder might be apt to remember where they got loaded up with a bunch of sticky stabby seed pods and be more apt to avoid that area next time |
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Posted: 9/28/2021 11:10:39 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Poison ivy mixed with crown of thorns? Came to post this. I used to have it in my yard. I no longer have it in my yard. It’s great for blood letting. The sap is not great on the skin either… 
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