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Link Posted: 8/2/2019 5:48:47 PM EST
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Cop should face murder charges, right?
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Manslaughter, negligence, etc...
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 5:54:36 PM EST
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Just watched the video. Damn. Poor training and skills is a defense. He may lose his job, but  NYPD is always an option.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 5:56:14 PM EST
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^Wow.  That video really highlights the dangers of being an idiot and a pussy simultaneously.

Well, at least the dangers for innocent bystanders.

Graduated from the academy in February 2019, released from field training to regular patrol on July 1st.  Yeah, he had a long and successful career.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 5:56:30 PM EST
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Just watched the video. Damn. Poor training and skills is a defense. He may lose is job, but  NYPD is always an option.
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Rookie. Just 1 month into the job after being cut loose on his own according to the article.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 6:17:44 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/2/2019 6:21:56 PM EST
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Carry snausages and the dogs will be loving you
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 6:23:41 PM EST
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Oh, he is so fired.
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I can't imagine him wanting to continue as an officer even if he could..
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 6:29:24 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/2/2019 6:31:36 PM EST
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Oh, he is so fired.
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Dallas is desperate and would probably hire.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 6:33:35 PM EST
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I heard a few weekends ago a leo in DFW shot a Chihuahua.  I've not looked for an article, mainly because I'd be ashamed
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Closets I've come to being bitten was by a Chihuaha.  Didn't know the little bastard was any where near me until it got hold of my pants and started pulling on my leg.  Had to kick the little fucker twice to get it to go away.  Still don't think I would shoot one.  Stomp yes but probably wouldn't shoot one.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 6:34:20 PM EST
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Dallas is desperate and would probably hire.
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Greenville SC might be a backup to.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 6:34:30 PM EST
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Dat QI tho
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responsibility for the projectiles that exit your firearm exists for LEOs, no?
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Ignorance is bliss.  QI has zero to do with criminal culpability.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 6:40:41 PM EST
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The officer is going to get let go if he is on probation.  Looks like he didn't consider his background.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 6:42:38 PM EST
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So I saw the video. Cop wasnt being aggressive. Dog charged him.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 6:42:45 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/2/2019 6:45:13 PM EST
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So I saw the video. Cop wasnt being aggressive. Dog charged him.
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Target fixation. Forgot all about what might be in the background.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 6:58:35 PM EST
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Really the body cam footage was poor quality, couldn't see the woman at all, she might have been passed out behind a trash can or in a bush.  Dog rapidly approached officer, he backed up and shot to defend himself.  To me it just looks like a accident and not any gross negligence.  Sometimes life is just a shit sandwich.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 7:01:28 PM EST
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Damn, that video looks bad...
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 7:03:24 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/2/2019 7:07:44 PM EST
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So sad.

Watched the video, what was he thinking?
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 7:11:04 PM EST
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13-15 years ago someone near here called 911 for a harmless snake in the birdhouse...cop shot at it...missed the birdhouse and hit a 5yo fishing with his grandpa on a nearby pond.

Hit that kid square in the forehead

It happens
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@VoodooChile

I remember that.  I think it occurred in Noble.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 7:38:39 PM EST
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Just watched the video. Damn. Poor training and skills is a defense. He may lose his job, but  NYPD is always an option.
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DPD is probably hiring.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 7:39:04 PM EST
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@MSGTUSAF

You were right. Looks exactly like that's what happened.
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What your untrained eye can't relay to your brain is that could have been a specially trained Al Qaeda aligned dog sent to take down sheepdogs in the arena
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 7:41:12 PM EST
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Greenville SC might be a backup to.
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Or Mesa.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 7:41:34 PM EST
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Oh and the court settlement the City is going to be  paying out will be amazing.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 7:42:21 PM EST
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Target fixation. Forgot all about what might be in the background.
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He was talking to the woman he shot, right up until the instant he shot directly at her.
I did hear the dog snarl before the first shot, so dog not totally innocent in this.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 7:44:56 PM EST
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Dude. Seriously?
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 7:55:30 PM EST
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Video sucks.  I don't even see the woman.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 7:56:24 PM EST
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He better hope he never needs the fire department for something
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 7:57:05 PM EST
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The story in the OP seems to imply the victim lives in the area with her SO. I guess it's possible she was homeless and lived with her boyfriend in that area, but seems a bit odd.

Stotts said a lot of people in her neighborhood seem to be upset about what happened. She said she doesn't believe the woman was a threat and thinks there was no excuse for the officer to kill her like that, she said.

"It's kind of touching people's hearts. A lot of people are very upset about what happened. The young lady and her fella was really nice people. They never really bothered anybody. Whatever the case had been today, whatever happened today that gave that officer a reason to kill her just doesn't make no sense. And it's just sad. It's really sad," she said.
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I refuse to believe good looking girls can ever become homeless. You could peddle your ass, make rent in a decent place and support a drug habit.

Tragedy all around here. Obviously a gross accident. We'll see what the law makes of it.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 8:02:01 PM EST
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Slightly better video without the news station watermark blocking it...

Woman shot to death when Arlington cop fires at loose dog
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 8:06:22 PM EST
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@VoodooChile

I remember that.  I think it occurred in Noble.
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Yeah im just north of hwy 9 so it wasnt too far from ne....kids dad joined arfcom so he could explain what happened..i still think about it when i pass by the place
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 8:08:48 PM EST
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I take you know what happened.
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I guess you have a problem with reading comprehension, they do have adult reading classes that can help.

Hmm guess I was right. But I was hoping it was a freak accident.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 8:22:27 PM EST
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Looked pretty negligent to me.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 8:25:50 PM EST
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He better hope he never needs the fire department for something
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"OH no we started a controlled burn but we weren't paying attention to what was around us and your house was on fire. We also had to move your car with the firetruck to run the hoses but we were too late.... Oh noooo"
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 8:26:15 PM EST
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Video sucks.  I don't even see the woman.
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But clearly he did because he engaged her in conversation.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 8:29:17 PM EST
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Slightly better video without the news station watermark blocking it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DQ6rfCsT3Y
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If that's her laying next to the side walk, then the dog is between directly between the two of them.

He knows she's there, he's talking to her, then fires multiple rounds directly at her!

I missed it, did the story say if she was only hit once?
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 8:31:04 PM EST
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Should face murder charges.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 8:33:01 PM EST
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Should face murder charges.
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Negligent homicide.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 8:37:28 PM EST
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That guy has no business ever being a cop again.  He bitched out and an innocent person is now dead.

So now we have one dead and one wounded in the name of officer safety.  At least this one wasn't inside a house.  
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 8:38:42 PM EST
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I can see a involuntary manslaughter charge
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 8:40:10 PM EST
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13-15 years ago someone near here called 911 for a harmless snake in the birdhouse...cop shot at it...missed the birdhouse and hit a 5yo fishing with his grandpa on a nearby pond.

Hit that kid square in the forehead

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That's real retarded, sir.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 8:44:23 PM EST
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The taxpaying citizens of Arlington are going to experience a budgetary buttfucking because of this poorly trained halfwit cop.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 8:44:56 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/2/2019 8:45:08 PM EST
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Looked pretty negligent to me.
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Damn. Dude has no business being LE.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 8:48:12 PM EST
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Slightly better video without the news station watermark blocking it...

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Wow.

What an idiot.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 8:51:43 PM EST
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Dog was coming fast. Hard call.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 8:52:13 PM EST
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That fucking guy...I don't get it.  If I discharged my goddamn duty weapon every time a fucking dog ran up on me, I'd be buried in paperwork and internal investigations.  I've been attacked on three occasions; two times prior to my career in LE (not armed) and once while on duty (bit on my boot while running up stairs in a house).  I smacked that dog (guess breed here...yup, yo got it) on the nose and he ran downstairs.  I then had a fourth incident where I had gotten into a wrastling match with a wanted individual (he didn't want to go to jail, surprising, ain't it?) and he had a pretty big pitbull.  The pretty big pitbull didn't like seeing his owner get man-handled.

The dog was being loud but not aggressive so we threw him outside. After the match, I went to go search perp's vehicle, pit charges me with his teeth showing.  This time, he wanted a piece of my ass for certain.  He was bathed in OC.  It got him good. He planted his entire head in the dirt for about 20 minutes. I didn't even contemplate my 17.  I'd rather give him my arm whilst I bury my Zero Tolerance into it's jugular.  99% of my work is done in suburban areas, lots of homes and citizens to consider. I would rather deal with the pain of a dog bite to my arm or leg than deal with the headache that will arise from discharging my duty weapon, but that's just me. I know many LEO's who are scared shitless of dogs and wouldn't think twice about shooting. There's the potential that my prior attacks have hardened me against future attacks, I'm not certain.

I could barely even see the dog in that video.  Possibility that dog was running up to show interest/affection.  Poor lady's last words sounded like, "what the fuck?"

I'm normally not the guy to Monday-morning-quarterback officers decisions, but this dog shooting shit is just sometimes inane.  I will note, however, sometimes shooting a dog/dogs is absolutely warranted. That one cop that shot the fucking chihuahua, or whatever tiny dog it was, in front of his owner was just ludicrous.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 8:52:46 PM EST
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Yup. He done fucked up. She was directly in line behind what he was firing at.
Link Posted: 8/2/2019 8:53:18 PM EST
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Dog was coming fast. Hard call.
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Really?

Low probability shot on a small fast moving target with a human being in the line of fire.
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