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Posted: 9/4/2020 9:50:03 PM EDT
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Production of the first new armored vehicle that will replace the Army Vietnam Era M113 armored personnel carrier is now complete, manufacturer BAE Systems announced today. The first Armored Multi-Purpose Vehicle, or AMPV, rolled off BAE's production line as part of a 2018 low-rate initial contract to deliver up to 450 of the vehicles to the Army, according to a BAE news release. https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/09/02/army-set-receive-first-armored-vehicles-replace-vietnam-era-m113.html?ESRC=eb_200903.nl |
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Quoted: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/108155/mil-armored-multi-purpose-vehicle-1800_j-1577371.JPGProduction of the first new armored vehicle that will replace the Army Vietnam Era M113.... View Quote What about the Bradley? |
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Looks like an M113 with a bunch of bolt-on armor. A heavy M113.
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I wonder if the “spray everything inside with oil” mod comes standard on this one like it’s predecessor?
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This is basically the M113 variant (MLTV) that the Army didn't choose back when they went with the Stryker
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Pentagon Wars - Bradley Fighting Vehicle Evolution |
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Too bad those soon to be surplus M113's will never reach the US market. I'd love to have a shoebox on tracks!!
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I thought the Stryker and Shinseki proved that track is obsolete. Wheels are the way to the future. s/
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... armor looks novel and interesting, I'd like to know more about it
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I used to drive a 113. Oh, the memories...
Broke down every other day. |
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Yep just a cosmetic change M113. I saw the Cmd Post carrier version and it's a M577a2 with armor plates no trim vane. Just so you can carry a couple OE254, 4 radios, and maybe a mount to put a laptop and printer,. Then you load all the dog and pony crap for the TOC.
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We still have 113s? Holy smokes.
I was so happy to trade that bucket in for a Bradley. That was three decades ago. I didn’t know we still had a use for them. My first track was actually a M901 ITV.....a 113 with a turret. |
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Quoted: Isnt that what the bradley was supposed to be from the get go? A light, fast way to get troops to the front, no turret or missiles or anything View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Basically a Bradley without a turret Literally. Doctrine changed. And, understandably so. Mobility is everything. You need to be able to dismount infantry for them to fight, but you don't want to have to dismount infantry for them to fight. Too late for the goofball 80s TV movie references. *sigh* If Desert Storm and the subsequent OIF conquering and occupying of the entirety of Iraq didn't prove the validity of the IFV concept to the "Pentagon Wars" goofballs, I doubt any attempt to reason with the written word will. |
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Quoted: Its a bradley hull. This is something that should would have happened in the early 90s if the wall hadnt fell. The 113 needed replacing then but money dried up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: So replace a 113 series vehicle with an upgraded 113? lol Its a bradley hull. This is something that should would have happened in the early 90s if the wall hadnt fell. The 113 needed replacing then but money dried up. Or, what he said. |
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Quoted: Its a bradley hull. This is something that should would have happened in the early 90s if the wall hadnt fell. The 113 needed replacing then but money dried up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: So replace a 113 series vehicle with an upgraded 113? lol Its a bradley hull. This is something that should would have happened in the early 90s if the wall hadnt fell. The 113 needed replacing then but money dried up. The M113A3 were still being rolled out in '89. From what I was told by friends down the street in 2AD, they were pretty good. The 1st Cav didn't get them until at least after fall of 89. |
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Quoted: The M113A3 were still being rolled out in '89. From what I was told by friends down the street in 2AD, they were pretty good. The 1st Cav didn't get them until at least after fall of 89. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So replace a 113 series vehicle with an upgraded 113? lol Its a bradley hull. This is something that should would have happened in the early 90s if the wall hadnt fell. The 113 needed replacing then but money dried up. The M113A3 were still being rolled out in '89. From what I was told by friends down the street in 2AD, they were pretty good. The 1st Cav didn't get them until at least after fall of 89. They were pretty good. They were also designed to get more years out of the 113 chassis. That was also 30 years ago! Heavy forces should have standardized around Bradley hulls decades ago. But, it was out on the back burner for many reasons. |
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Quoted: Why isn't it painted whatever color China is? View Quote War with China imo will likely involve 2 of their allies Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Quoted: The M113A3 were still being rolled out in '89. From what I was told by friends down the street in 2AD, they were pretty good. The 1st Cav didn't get them until at least after fall of 89. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So replace a 113 series vehicle with an upgraded 113? lol Its a bradley hull. This is something that should would have happened in the early 90s if the wall hadnt fell. The 113 needed replacing then but money dried up. The M113A3 were still being rolled out in '89. From what I was told by friends down the street in 2AD, they were pretty good. The 1st Cav didn't get them until at least after fall of 89. I think there were still Guard units with A2s when Sept 11th happened. It was a long drawn out fielding. |
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