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Posted: 2/12/2019 7:51:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/12/2019 7:55:30 PM EDT
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NKAWTG |
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Posted: 2/12/2019 7:58:52 PM EDT
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I was offered a Sim instructor position on the C-17 several years ago.
Would have been a fun job but the pay was way lower than my current salary at the time. |
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Posted: 2/12/2019 8:01:33 PM EDT
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What a horrible, horrible place to be stationed.
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Posted: 2/12/2019 8:04:07 PM EDT
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What a horrible, horrible place to be stationed. The rest of the year it's OK, |
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Posted: 2/12/2019 8:06:59 PM EDT
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Wasn't the Air Force all set to buy an airbus tanker? IIRC McCain stepped in and threw a fit and wanted a American made tanker?
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Posted: 2/12/2019 8:16:00 PM EDT
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I work there and it's been an interesting week so far. Still a lot of unknowns and a few oh-shits at this point, but it'll all get worked out eventually.
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Posted: 2/12/2019 8:25:39 PM EDT
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I went to C-141 Loadmaster school at Altus forty years ago. Hated the place, but friends that wound up getting stationed there really liked it.
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Posted: 2/12/2019 8:41:56 PM EDT
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What a horrible, horrible place to be stationed. My aspiring career was bored to death there. I wanted nothing else to do with USAF after 1.5 years (of which I was probably there 8 months, not even consecutively) at that shithole. I turned down 2 years in belgium because it would have extended my enlistment. I believe altus was my unofficial punishment for daring to refuse to extend 6 months. |
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Posted: 2/12/2019 8:44:19 PM EDT
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It's a horrible place when you have to go to Lawton to find something to do.
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Posted: 2/12/2019 8:47:30 PM EDT
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I hope they buy enough of them (or at least fund enough now) before a Dem gets in the WH.
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Posted: 2/12/2019 8:48:31 PM EDT
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Wasn't the Air Force all set to buy an airbus tanker? IIRC McCain stepped in and threw a fit and wanted a American made tanker? |
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Posted: 2/12/2019 8:50:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope they buy enough of them (or at least fund enough now) before a Dem gets in the WH. |
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Posted: 2/12/2019 9:30:46 PM EDT
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We are getting them here in NH
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Posted: 2/19/2019 9:15:47 PM EDT
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What a horrible, horrible place to be stationed.
You should've grown up there. |
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Posted: 2/19/2019 9:25:00 PM EDT
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The most prominent feature on the map for Altus, OK is the golf course at the AFB.
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Posted: 2/19/2019 9:28:46 PM EDT
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What happens once the KC-46 is delivered?
https://www.airforcetimes.com/digital-show-dailies/airlift-tanker-annual/2018/10/26/what-happens-once-the-kc-46-is-delivered/ |
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Posted: 2/19/2019 9:41:37 PM EDT
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Would prefer 777 based.
But, eh. I could have made some money on this deal. But a certain asshole sold a bunch of stock without my permission. |
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Posted: 2/19/2019 9:54:25 PM EDT
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Sorry for OT question but was anybody on Arfcom stationed there in the 70's?
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Posted: 2/19/2019 10:03:12 PM EDT
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Would prefer 777 based. But, eh. I could have made some money on this deal. But a certain asshole sold a bunch of stock without my permission. |
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Posted: 2/19/2019 10:27:21 PM EDT
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This new tanker is a "game changer" and is an entirely different from any other tanker design.
I am proud to be part of the Team that is assembling and building them in Everett Washington. The unique capabilities of this amazing aircraft have only just begun. Everyone will want one. |
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Posted: 2/19/2019 10:30:51 PM EDT
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It's a horrible place when you have to go to Lawton to find something to do. I spent years flying passengers into Lawton and doing overnights there. I don't remember enjoying a single stay. |
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Posted: 2/19/2019 10:43:22 PM EDT
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Yeah it’s really weird they did the 767 platform. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would prefer 777 based. But, eh. I could have made some money on this deal. But a certain asshole sold a bunch of stock without my permission. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 3:17:13 AM EDT
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Tankers need to be operated in numbers. When a strike aircraft is low on fuel they need a tanker NOW. A fleet of smaller tankers does that job a lot better than a fewer larger tankers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would prefer 777 based. But, eh. I could have made some money on this deal. But a certain asshole sold a bunch of stock without my permission. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 5:23:39 AM EDT
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With the KC-46....does Boeing build them to the KC-46 specs and then the AF finishes them or does Boeing build everything as you see when it comes in? Because they can build 5 777's a month vs. 2.5 767's a month at Boeing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would prefer 777 based. But, eh. I could have made some money on this deal. But a certain asshole sold a bunch of stock without my permission. And they can crank out as many 767s as necessary. At one point they were building 5 747s a month as market conditions required, too. They rate of 2.5 per month is because that is what delivery schedules justify. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 5:28:06 AM EDT
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Yeah it’s really weird they did the 767 platform. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would prefer 777 based. But, eh. I could have made some money on this deal. But a certain asshole sold a bunch of stock without my permission. They would have happily offered a 777 derivative if that best met what the RFP had specified. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 5:44:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2019 5:49:10 AM EDT
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I was born on Altus, AFB. 21 years later I was on base doing my in-processing for C-17 BLM school on my birthday.
I love that place. 
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Posted: 2/20/2019 6:58:58 AM EDT
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It’s not weird that Boeing offered the AF what AF said it wanted. They would have happily offered a 777 derivative if that best met what the RFP had specified. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would prefer 777 based. But, eh. I could have made some money on this deal. But a certain asshole sold a bunch of stock without my permission. They would have happily offered a 777 derivative if that best met what the RFP had specified. 
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:11:11 AM EDT
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They did offer a 777 platform. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would prefer 777 based. But, eh. I could have made some money on this deal. But a certain asshole sold a bunch of stock without my permission. They would have happily offered a 777 derivative if that best met what the RFP had specified. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:17:09 AM EDT
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Yeah it’s really weird they did the 767 platform. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would prefer 777 based. But, eh. I could have made some money on this deal. But a certain asshole sold a bunch of stock without my permission. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:19:03 AM EDT
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It’s not weird that Boeing offered the AF what AF said it wanted. They would have happily offered a 777 derivative if that best met what the RFP had specified. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would prefer 777 based. But, eh. I could have made some money on this deal. But a certain asshole sold a bunch of stock without my permission. They would have happily offered a 777 derivative if that best met what the RFP had specified. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:35:28 AM EDT
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Would prefer 777 based. But, eh. I could have made some money on this deal. But a certain asshole sold a bunch of stock without my permission. They would have happily offered a 777 derivative if that best met what the RFP had specified. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:37:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not really when you consider the specifications. Part of the reason the A330 version lost |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:45:54 AM EDT
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Get fuct, Airbus!
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:45:55 AM EDT
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I remember reading that it was offered to the AF (though not necessarily a full proposal) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would prefer 777 based. But, eh. I could have made some money on this deal. But a certain asshole sold a bunch of stock without my permission. They would have happily offered a 777 derivative if that best met what the RFP had specified. AF said thanks but no thanks, it’s too big. We want a KC-135 replacement. Then turned around and tried to buy the MRTT. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:53:24 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:59:34 AM EDT
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Boeing told the AF that they could offer a 777 derivative tanker. AF said thanks but no thanks, it’s too big. We want a KC-135 replacement. Then turned around and tried to buy the MRTT. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would prefer 777 based. But, eh. I could have made some money on this deal. But a certain asshole sold a bunch of stock without my permission. They would have happily offered a 777 derivative if that best met what the RFP had specified. AF said thanks but no thanks, it’s too big. We want a KC-135 replacement. Then turned around and tried to buy the MRTT. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 12:17:59 PM EDT
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It's a horrible place when you have to go to Lawton to find something to do. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 12:58:53 PM EDT
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What a horrible, horrible place to be stationed.
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Posted: 2/20/2019 1:14:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With the KC-46....does Boeing build them to the KC-46 specs and then the AF finishes them or does Boeing build everything as you see when it comes in? Because they can build 5 777's a month vs. 2.5 767's a month at Boeing. By that logic, Boeing builds approx 40 737s per month, so we should have gone with a 737 tanker. Number of orders dictate production rate, the 767 would have died along with the 757 if not for this tanker deal. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 1:17:48 PM EDT
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My brother is doing the training implementation for Flight Safety International.
He's been crazy busy to say the least. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 1:18:45 PM EDT
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What a horrible, horrible place to be stationed. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 1:21:30 PM EDT
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Yeah it’s really weird they did the 767 platform. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would prefer 777 based. But, eh. I could have made some money on this deal. But a certain asshole sold a bunch of stock without my permission. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 1:26:46 PM EDT
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Corporate welfare. The lazy B knew the passenger 767 was dead as a door nail and wanted to milk a bunch of government money to keep the line open longer. They had more powerful politicians in their pocket than airbus so they got their way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would prefer 777 based. But, eh. I could have made some money on this deal. But a certain asshole sold a bunch of stock without my permission. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 1:28:25 PM EDT
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the shocker I heard on a recent podcast is the 46 no longer has an operator in the back with direct visual on the receiving aircraft.
The system involves cameras, etc. Guess what; there are problems with the camera system in certain lighting conditions. Well, no kidding. They're trying to replace the Mark I Eyeball, with it's grossly superior dynamic range with something that will just about always be inferior. I can understand if the camera system incorporates FLIR/nightvision, but if it doesn't .........
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Posted: 2/20/2019 1:31:32 PM EDT
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What a horrible, horrible place to be stationed. We drove all over just to have anything to do; lots of mischievous activities do to boredom. Drag racing the DCM off base and having him order me to turn myself in to Base security because he lost comes to mind. Road trips every chance we had, I did see a lot of stuff within 600 miles of Altus AFB, not that much is within 600 mi. of Altus. With all that said I loved the job and all that was involved with it, just nothing to offer outside of that for young adventurous adults. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 1:35:36 PM EDT
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McCain stopped the initial KC-767 lease which was corrupt enough people went to jail. The competition resulted in the MRTT being selected but the award was overturned by the GAO. Boeing then won the following competition. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wasn't the Air Force all set to buy an airbus tanker? IIRC McCain stepped in and threw a fit and wanted a American made tanker? |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 1:36:33 PM EDT
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Would prefer 777 based. But, eh. I could have made some money on this deal. But a certain asshole sold a bunch of stock without my permission. I always have one simple question. Would you buy a French car? |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 1:37:55 PM EDT
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Haha I spent years flying passengers into Lawton and doing overnights there. I don't remember enjoying a single stay. It was a fun night - women in skimpy outfits dancing on top of the PA speakers. |
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