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Link Posted: 7/15/2020 3:50:42 PM EDT
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Why does everyone ignore Liberia?


BTW, if you don't know the history of Liberia, you're missing a very strong case to argue against these commies.
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Why does everyone ignore Liberia?


BTW, if you don't know the history of Liberia, you're missing a very strong case to argue against these commies.

Not really; white people couldn't make Africa work very well for long, either.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 3:52:28 PM EDT
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It’s unclear, but I think they are saying they “Shouldn’t”.  

I like how the chart is bookended with descriptions of “White Supremacy”, while it carefully lists the superior cultural values which brought the whole World into the modern age.  

Other than the “bland is best” comment, it’s a pretty fair assessment.   They should teach it to young children and make it a requirement for graduation.   “If you want to succeed, these are the values you need to adopt”.    

Unintentional irony is the best kind.  
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So they are saying blacks don't believe in hard work, have dysfunctional families, and don't believe in basic science?  Kinda racist


It’s unclear, but I think they are saying they “Shouldn’t”.  

I like how the chart is bookended with descriptions of “White Supremacy”, while it carefully lists the superior cultural values which brought the whole World into the modern age.  

Other than the “bland is best” comment, it’s a pretty fair assessment.   They should teach it to young children and make it a requirement for graduation.   “If you want to succeed, these are the values you need to adopt”.    

Unintentional irony is the best kind.  

Oddly, I didn't see many traits that had anything to do with racial superiority or discrimination.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 3:52:43 PM EDT
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Somebody is trolling the minority museum patrons.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 3:54:41 PM EDT
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Collectivism consistently works in small, homogenous, high trust societies with high average IQ.

It fails in diverse shit holes full of morons.

Census data does not suggest it would work out in America.
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Collectivism only works in primitive resource environments, where value perceptions are based in survival..progress to a society where leisure or luxury items take on perceived values and all that shit goes out the window.


Collectivism consistently works in small, homogenous, high trust societies with high average IQ.

It fails in diverse shit holes full of morons.

Census data does not suggest it would work out in America.

It failed pretty damn hard for the first American Pilgrims, too, despite even ideological homogeneity.

He who does not work, does not deserve to eat.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 3:55:01 PM EDT
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Apparently so... not living like a fucking animal is wrong...

I was told, by a white female boss,  that certain things just weren't important in certain cultures... and was told to never again write up a black female employee for being late to work...
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“ African-American Time”.  No joke. It was on the nursing state board. You must work around it.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 3:59:34 PM EDT
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Made up bullshit.  "win at all costs" in "individual" sports--may as well make the Olympics "whites only" if that silly list is true.  And it obviously isn't since all races and cultures participate.
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Not really; white people couldn't make Africa work very well for long, either.
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Why does everyone ignore Liberia?


BTW, if you don't know the history of Liberia, you're missing a very strong case to argue against these commies.

Not really; white people couldn't make Africa work very well for long, either.


Explore that thought.  Why is that so?  South Africa was pretty successful.  But it too succumbed for the same reasons.

Link Posted: 7/15/2020 4:00:42 PM EDT
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Wow, that is extremely racist against Black People to say a lot of those things are "White" or "Whiteness"

The communist Marxist who wrote that should be ashamed.
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“ African-American Time”.  No joke. It was on the nursing state board. You must work around it.
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Apparently so... not living like a fucking animal is wrong...

I was told, by a white female boss,  that certain things just weren't important in certain cultures... and was told to never again write up a black female employee for being late to work...

“ African-American Time”.  No joke. It was on the nursing state board. You must work around it.


Called BPT. Black people time. Always 1-1.5 hours late so if you want to start meeting at 4:00 EDT, that would be 3:00 BPT.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 4:01:09 PM EDT
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What?

The straight White male is the most hated and discriminated against segment of American society, our social environment does not insulate from that, it just seems that way because straight White men don't whine, bitch, or cry about it nor do they use it as an excuse or a crutch, just the opposite most just don't give a shit.

If straight White men moving through life undeterred by the hate and discrimination put upon them makes them appear better than everyone else, well then maybe they are.

 

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Facing your whiteness is hard and can result in feelings of guilt, sadness, confusion, defensiveness, or fear. Dr. Robin DiAngelo coined the term white fragility to describe these feelings as "a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves." Since white people "live in a social environment that insulates them from race-based stress," whites are rarely challenged and have less of a tolerance to race-based stress.


What?

The straight White male is the most hated and discriminated against segment of American society, our social environment does not insulate from that, it just seems that way because straight White men don't whine, bitch, or cry about it nor do they use it as an excuse or a crutch, just the opposite most just don't give a shit.

If straight White men moving through life undeterred by the hate and discrimination put upon them makes them appear better than everyone else, well then maybe they are.

 


That woman would be psychologically destroyed by just about any man whose paycheck didn't depend on kissing her ass at one of those corporate brainwashing seminars.

"Ignore your logic, it is racist.  Ignore your emotion, it is racist.  Internalize my teachings..."

Literal brainwashing, and not even very clever at it.

"Doctor, you are clearly white, yet you are speaking for all black people."
"REEEEEEEEEEEEEE--" *aneurysm* *defecation whilst spinning on the floor*

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Explore that thought.  Why is that so?  South Africa was pretty successful.  But it too succumbed for the same reasons.

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Why does everyone ignore Liberia?


BTW, if you don't know the history of Liberia, you're missing a very strong case to argue against these commies.

Not really; white people couldn't make Africa work very well for long, either.


Explore that thought.  Why is that so?  South Africa was pretty successful.  But it too succumbed for the same reasons.


Nigeria wins again?

That was more of an immigration issue than a skin color issue.  A lot of Africa's problems ultimately stem from it being too easy to bail on a failing situation for whatever is the greenest pasture at the time, at which point it is overwhelmed & collapses.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 4:10:50 PM EDT
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Somebody compile the opposite of that.
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The problem is they are trying to argue that the list above isn't valid, in that people shouldn't be living in that way. It is the "White culture" that has pushed these falsehoods on others and that we need to accept their bull shit culture of slacking off, harming others, raping individuals, etc etc.

If an individual is polite, it is a "negative" thing as it is a "white" thing and not something that should be happening with all people of all walks of life.
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Other than the "Majority Rule" line I don't see anything wrong with and is a good summary for humans regardless of race or ethnicity should strive to live their lives.


The problem is they are trying to argue that the list above isn't valid, in that people shouldn't be living in that way. It is the "White culture" that has pushed these falsehoods on others and that we need to accept their bull shit culture of slacking off, harming others, raping individuals, etc etc.

If an individual is polite, it is a "negative" thing as it is a "white" thing and not something that should be happening with all people of all walks of life.


Well fuck them.

No one ever looted their way to prosperity.

Food stamps and free cell phones will not help you get ahead in life, handout make you depended sheep.

Democrats have been running urban areas into the ground for over half a century, to continue to vote for them is beyond reason.

They impose their shitacular cultural standards on others because if they cant be successful no one else should be either.

I'm sick of being told to check my privilege and to feel guilty for being white.

Honestly the constant bitching of the left makes we want to double down and be even more "white" in my ways.
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That’s easy. Turd world shithole. That list is what makes the USA the greatest society and country ever.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 4:25:17 PM EDT
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How do they think modern civilization and advanced technology came about? There are certain formulas that did that...
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Yep. Basically everything on that list. Strive to be a better man, not a shittier one.  That describes USA culture perfectly, hence why they want to destroy it.

They didn’t describe white culture, they described American values.
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Yep. Basically everything on that list. Strive to be a better man, not a shittier one.  That describes USA culture perfectly, hence why they want to destroy it.

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A large part of America is missing it
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Yep. Basically everything on that list. Strive to be a better man, not a shittier one.  That describes USA culture perfectly, hence why they want to destroy it.

They didn’t describe white culture, they described American values.
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Yep. Basically everything on that list. Strive to be a better man, not a shittier one.  That describes USA culture perfectly, hence why they want to destroy it.

They didn’t describe white culture, they described American values.


It pretty much describes white European culture across the globe.  Agreed there is a better label for it though.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 4:43:42 PM EDT
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Hahaha! Holy shit these idiots have actually figured out the secret to winning in life. And they're too fucking stupid to apply it.

Just unbelievable. Enjoy your racism and poverty
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Yep. Basically everything on that list. Strive to be a better man, not a shittier one.  That describes USA culture perfectly, hence why they want to destroy it.

They didn’t describe white culture, they described American values.
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How do they think modern civilization and advanced technology came about? There are certain formulas that did that...


Yep. Basically everything on that list. Strive to be a better man, not a shittier one.  That describes USA culture perfectly, hence why they want to destroy it.

They didn’t describe white culture, they described American values.


Just the premise that it's 'white'. It's a formula available to everyone. For free.  it's been an idea that's been at work for a while. Middle-man minorities.Middleman minorties.

Providing services and products. Competition. Innovation. Work ethic. building wealth and investment. etc.
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If you published the obvious antithesis to this, you would get scrapped from every window in the street.
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Just the premise that it's 'white'. It's a formula available to everyone. For free.  it's been an idea that's been at work for a while. Middle-man minorities.Middleman minorties.

Providing services and products. Competition. Innovation. Work ethic. building wealth and investment. etc.
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How do they think modern civilization and advanced technology came about? There are certain formulas that did that...


Yep. Basically everything on that list. Strive to be a better man, not a shittier one.  That describes USA culture perfectly, hence why they want to destroy it.

They didn’t describe white culture, they described American values.


Just the premise that it's 'white'. It's a formula available to everyone. For free.  it's been an idea that's been at work for a while. Middle-man minorities.Middleman minorties.

Providing services and products. Competition. Innovation. Work ethic. building wealth and investment. etc.


That’s their point.
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That’s their point.
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Yep. Basically everything on that list. Strive to be a better man, not a shittier one.  That describes USA culture perfectly, hence why they want to destroy it.

They didn’t describe white culture, they described American values.


Just the premise that it's 'white'. It's a formula available to everyone. For free.  it's been an idea that's been at work for a while. Middle-man minorities.Middleman minorties.

Providing services and products. Competition. Innovation. Work ethic. building wealth and investment. etc.


That’s their point.



I'm pretty sure it's more of a complaint.

They might not like the way progress and advancement is really made, but they aren't quite to the point of explaining what they are going to replace it with- explicitly. Implicitly, communism/ socialism has never really panned out, ever. The assumption, I presume, is that they'll need to force people to conform to their governing funkiness until it gets done right. Not striving to get there makes you a reactionary and deserving of everything you get.
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What a lovely way to spread communism through racism.
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Not the first time.  Several socialist revolutions were disguised as fighting for racial equality among other things (ie Cuba)
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I'm pretty sure it's more of a complaint.

They might not like the way progress and advancement is really made, but they aren't quite to the point of explaining what they are going to replace it with- explicitly. Implicitly, communism/ socialism has never really panned out, ever. The assumption, I presume, is that they'll need to force people to conform to their governing funkiness until it gets done right. Not striving to get there makes you a reactionary and deserving of everything you get.
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How do they think modern civilization and advanced technology came about? There are certain formulas that did that...


Yep. Basically everything on that list. Strive to be a better man, not a shittier one.  That describes USA culture perfectly, hence why they want to destroy it.

They didn’t describe white culture, they described American values.


Just the premise that it's 'white'. It's a formula available to everyone. For free.  it's been an idea that's been at work for a while. Middle-man minorities.Middleman minorties.

Providing services and products. Competition. Innovation. Work ethic. building wealth and investment. etc.


That’s their point.



I'm pretty sure it's more of a complaint.

They might not like the way progress and advancement is really made, but they aren't quite to the point of explaining what they are going to replace it with- explicitly. Implicitly, communism/ socialism has never really panned out, ever. The assumption, I presume, is that they'll need to force people to conform to their governing funkiness until it gets done right. Not striving to get there makes you a reactionary and deserving of everything you get.


I read it as a point that one must conform to this cultural stereotype in order to succeed.  So if it is not your preferred or learned culture, you are forced to adopt it anyway or fail, which is “not fair” in their minds.
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I love that dog.
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Now make all those statements opposite, see what that list looks like.
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I'm ready for the divorce. Can only put up with your bipolar "significant other" for so long. It'll be messy and bloody, but necessary because cohabitation is impossible at this point. Irreconcilable differences.
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I read it as a point that one must conform to this cultural stereotype in order to succeed.  So if it is not your preferred or learned culture, you are forced to adopt it anyway or fail, which is “not fair” in their minds.
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Yep. Basically everything on that list. Strive to be a better man, not a shittier one.  That describes USA culture perfectly, hence why they want to destroy it.

They didn’t describe white culture, they described American values.


Just the premise that it's 'white'. It's a formula available to everyone. For free.  it's been an idea that's been at work for a while. Middle-man minorities.Middleman minorties.

Providing services and products. Competition. Innovation. Work ethic. building wealth and investment. etc.


That’s their point.



I'm pretty sure it's more of a complaint.

They might not like the way progress and advancement is really made, but they aren't quite to the point of explaining what they are going to replace it with- explicitly. Implicitly, communism/ socialism has never really panned out, ever. The assumption, I presume, is that they'll need to force people to conform to their governing funkiness until it gets done right. Not striving to get there makes you a reactionary and deserving of everything you get.


I read it as a point that one must conform to this cultural stereotype in order to succeed.  So if it is not your preferred or learned culture, you are forced to adopt it anyway or fail, which is “not fair” in their minds.



But it's not 'white'. It's universal. if you are going to ignore it simply because of 'racist' implications and a desire for hope-y utopianism, you should not claim a grand conspiracy of racism (or sexism) when it fails on its own-  as it always does. But the claim of racism allows for grand scapegoating and bad actors acting out in the same manner as a sexism claim allows, in the sense that it is an unproven claim that requires you to disprove the accusation. Guilt until proven innocence (and that may not even be allowed for the greater good). As seen in Portland and Seattle where the claim allows for abuses for property owners and businesses. And accompanying excessive abuses because the claims are a given.

It was called Nazism in another time..
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I would like to see one for Asians....


-If you haven't got your 5 year old home schooled though advanced calculus you are a failure as a parent.

-if your child sleeps more than 5 hours every night then they need more school work to keep them from becoming lazy

-Your purpose as a parent is to get you children through Ivy League schools and into a six figure salary before they are 20

-Fuck the poors, they just lazy


Jonny Kim probably has a mom that is still disappointed...

https://nextshark.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/19055840_993730460817529_6007898840056391142_o-e1582331051360.jpg



That guy has a well rounded resume.
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But it's not 'white'. It's universal. if you are going to ignore it simply because of 'racist' implications and a desire for hope-y utopianism, you should not claim a grand conspiracy of racism (or sexism) when it fails on its own-  as it always does. But the claim of racism allows for grand scapegoating and bad actors acting out in the same manner as sexism claim allows (as seen in Portland and Seattle). And excessive abuses. It was called Nazism in another time..
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Yep. Basically everything on that list. Strive to be a better man, not a shittier one.  That describes USA culture perfectly, hence why they want to destroy it.

They didn’t describe white culture, they described American values.


Just the premise that it's 'white'. It's a formula available to everyone. For free.  it's been an idea that's been at work for a while. Middle-man minorities.Middleman minorties.

Providing services and products. Competition. Innovation. Work ethic. building wealth and investment. etc.


That’s their point.



I'm pretty sure it's more of a complaint.

They might not like the way progress and advancement is really made, but they aren't quite to the point of explaining what they are going to replace it with- explicitly. Implicitly, communism/ socialism has never really panned out, ever. The assumption, I presume, is that they'll need to force people to conform to their governing funkiness until it gets done right. Not striving to get there makes you a reactionary and deserving of everything you get.


I read it as a point that one must conform to this cultural stereotype in order to succeed.  So if it is not your preferred or learned culture, you are forced to adopt it anyway or fail, which is “not fair” in their minds.



But it's not 'white'. It's universal. if you are going to ignore it simply because of 'racist' implications and a desire for hope-y utopianism, you should not claim a grand conspiracy of racism (or sexism) when it fails on its own-  as it always does. But the claim of racism allows for grand scapegoating and bad actors acting out in the same manner as sexism claim allows (as seen in Portland and Seattle). And excessive abuses. It was called Nazism in another time..


I agree that it’s not “white”, but it’s also not universal.  There are many cultures that value things other than those on this list.

This is the culture brought to America by white Europeans.  It is quite different than the culture of the so called native Americans, for example.   This culture has since been elevated over their culture in our modern society.
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I agree that it’s not “white”, but it’s also not universal.  There are many cultures that value things other than those on this list.
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Yep. Basically everything on that list. Strive to be a better man, not a shittier one.  That describes USA culture perfectly, hence why they want to destroy it.

They didn’t describe white culture, they described American values.


Just the premise that it's 'white'. It's a formula available to everyone. For free.  it's been an idea that's been at work for a while. Middle-man minorities.Middleman minorties.

Providing services and products. Competition. Innovation. Work ethic. building wealth and investment. etc.


That’s their point.



I'm pretty sure it's more of a complaint.

They might not like the way progress and advancement is really made, but they aren't quite to the point of explaining what they are going to replace it with- explicitly. Implicitly, communism/ socialism has never really panned out, ever. The assumption, I presume, is that they'll need to force people to conform to their governing funkiness until it gets done right. Not striving to get there makes you a reactionary and deserving of everything you get.


I read it as a point that one must conform to this cultural stereotype in order to succeed.  So if it is not your preferred or learned culture, you are forced to adopt it anyway or fail, which is “not fair” in their minds.



But it's not 'white'. It's universal. if you are going to ignore it simply because of 'racist' implications and a desire for hope-y utopianism, you should not claim a grand conspiracy of racism (or sexism) when it fails on its own-  as it always does. But the claim of racism allows for grand scapegoating and bad actors acting out in the same manner as sexism claim allows (as seen in Portland and Seattle). And excessive abuses. It was called Nazism in another time..


I agree that it’s not “white”, but it’s also not universal.  There are many cultures that value things other than those on this list.



Well and good.

But the zero sum game claim is just an excuse for not working for it and still expecting the same rewards.

the 'universal' is in the outcomes of those following the formula, not in the 'universal' adoption of the formula. If you follow a course of action- schooling, skills, hard work, etc.- then your chances for success improve dramatically.

Unfortunately, this position has now been compromised in this society as we've adopted the more socialist values of the New Left thinking of equality of outcomes and making things right through quotas instead of competency... since the 70s
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Assumptions of black culture (the opposite of everything on that list) would be racist.

Fuck that bullshit.
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Called BPT. Black people time. Always 1-1.5 hours late so if you want to start meeting at 4:00 EDT, that would be 3:00 BPT.
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Apparently so... not living like a fucking animal is wrong...

I was told, by a white female boss,  that certain things just weren't important in certain cultures... and was told to never again write up a black female employee for being late to work...

“ African-American Time”.  No joke. It was on the nursing state board. You must work around it.


Called BPT. Black people time. Always 1-1.5 hours late so if you want to start meeting at 4:00 EDT, that would be 3:00 BPT.

Actually, I've always heard of it referred to as CPT -Colored People Time. (And that was from blacks, who are very open about the fact that it's a real thing.)
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I was a guest at a south Texas deer lease shooting does.  One night 5 or 6 of them got around a campfire and started telling hunting stories.  One had just killed a cape Buffalo with a 110 pound bow.  Another had been hunting in Mongolia. Another had a trip planned for Alaska.  Another had been shooting doves in Argentina.  Another one had been on safari in South Africa.  They all were hunting with high dollar rifles.  All lawyers and Bankers.

I said y'all better check your white privilege.  They all got real quiet and gave me a WTF look.  I said just joking i'm , damn glad i got a chance to shoot does down here with all of you.  I keep getting invited back.

There are many levels of White culture.  These guys all worked their asses off to get where they were.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 5:56:57 PM EDT
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What's universal, the cultural traits being described? They're not universal at all.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 6:03:30 PM EDT
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What's universal, the cultural traits being described? They're not universal at all.
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What's universal, the cultural traits being described? They're not universal at all.


The formula for success. Providing a service, skill, or product that people are willing to pay for. It's the KSAs. The work ethic. Showing up to work on time and working out your shift or finishing your projects. of adapting your business to the market. In free societies, these are the things that determined success or failure in the past for the most part. But the New Left socialist project in academia and government has been successfully changing those cultural norms and mores.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 6:07:26 PM EDT
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The formula for success. Providing a service, skill, or product that people are willing to pay for. It's the KSAs. The work ethic. Showing up to work on time and working out your shift or finishing your projects. of adapting your business to the market. In free societies, these are the things that determined success or failure in the past for the most part. But the New Left socialist project in academia and government has been successfully changing those cultural norms and mores.
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But it's not 'white'. It's universal.

What's universal, the cultural traits being described? They're not universal at all.


The formula for success. Providing a service, skill, or product that people are willing to pay for. It's the KSAs. The work ethic. Showing up to work on time and working out your shift or finishing your projects. of adapting your business to the market. In free societies, these are the things that determined success or failure in the past for the most part. But the New Left socialist project in academia and government has been successfully changing those cultural norms and mores.


The “formula for success” is whatever we decide it is.

For example, this list has thin blonde “barbie doll” looks as a measure of success.  Many other cultures define success as being fatter/larger.

Have you read this parable:

A successful businessman on vacation was at the pier of a small coastal village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The businessman complimented the fisherman on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them.

The fisherman proudly replied, “Every morning, I go out in my boat for 30 minutes to fish. I’m the best fisherman in the village”.

The businessman, perplexed, then asks the fisherman “If you’re the best, why don’t you stay out longer and catch more fish? What do you do the rest of the day?”

The fisherman replied “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, spend quality time with my wife, and every evening we stroll into the village to drink wine and play guitar with our friends. I have a full and happy life.”

The businessman scoffed, “I am successful CEO and have a talent for spotting business opportunities. I can help you be more successful. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds, buy a bigger boat. With the proceeds from the bigger boat, you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats with many fishermen. Instead of selling your catch to just your friends, you can scale to sell fish to thousands. You could leave this small coastal fishing village and move to the big city, where you can oversee your growing empire.”

The fisherman asked, “But, how long will this all take?”

To which the businessman replied, “15 – 20 years.”

“But what then?” Asked the fisherman.

The businessman laughed and said, “That’s the best part.  When the time is right you would announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions!”

“Millions – then what?”

The businessman said, “Then you would retire.  Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, spend time with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your friends.”


Link Posted: 7/15/2020 6:23:30 PM EDT
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So they are saying blacks don't believe in hard work, have dysfunctional families, and don't believe in basic science?  Kinda racist
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They have set up a ready made excuse for failure.

That list is "Systemic Racism", since it's built on "White Culture" whites can easily succeed in it and blacks fail because the "system is rigged against them".


But if the antithesis is "Black Culture", then these people are saying black culture is laziness, "non traditional families", illogic and irrationality, lack of ambition, lack of respect for time and being an asshole...which produces lack of results, but that they are ok with failure because they don't value winning or success...

Which really seems like an odd stance to take.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 6:25:49 PM EDT
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Actually, I've always heard of it referred to as CPT -Colored People Time. (And that was from blacks, who are very open about the fact that it's a real thing.)
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Apparently so... not living like a fucking animal is wrong...

I was told, by a white female boss,  that certain things just weren't important in certain cultures... and was told to never again write up a black female employee for being late to work...

“ African-American Time”.  No joke. It was on the nursing state board. You must work around it.


Called BPT. Black people time. Always 1-1.5 hours late so if you want to start meeting at 4:00 EDT, that would be 3:00 BPT.

Actually, I've always heard of it referred to as CPT -Colored People Time. (And that was from blacks, who are very open about the fact that it's a real thing.)


It is absolutely a thing. At the root of that culture problems is “give me respect because of my skin color, not because I earned it”
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 6:26:35 PM EDT
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Looks like a checklist of how to be successful and not ever arrested or killed
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 6:28:39 PM EDT
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The “formula for success” is whatever we decide it is.

For example, this list has thin blonde “barbie doll” looks as a measure of success.  Many other cultures define success as being fatter/larger.
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But it's not 'white'. It's universal.

What's universal, the cultural traits being described? They're not universal at all.


The formula for success. Providing a service, skill, or product that people are willing to pay for. It's the KSAs. The work ethic. Showing up to work on time and working out your shift or finishing your projects. of adapting your business to the market. In free societies, these are the things that determined success or failure in the past for the most part. But the New Left socialist project in academia and government has been successfully changing those cultural norms and mores.


The “formula for success” is whatever we decide it is.

For example, this list has thin blonde “barbie doll” looks as a measure of success.  Many other cultures define success as being fatter/larger.


You are speaking of cultural preferences for mating or attractiveness. Sure, in a time of hunger, like the lower middle ages, fatter people were attractive because their obesity in itself was an indicator of success/ wealth/ status.

As we advance and learn more, as more information is made more readily available, our values change. Materialism is the device that allows for more leisure time and access to knowledge and/ or gaining of technology. And because that is what controls and dominates the environment, especially with lesser cultures (in the material sense), because there are more tools and influence to contribute to the continued success and prolonging of that more advanced culture.

And why your culture should align as closely as possible to the truths of nature. And general 'universal' ideas like human rights, the wrong of slavery, etc. to promote a more peaceful, less conflicted existence. Western culture's progress, and sharing of that knowledge, to the vast improvement of humanity, was the result of many things, but mainly objectivity, skepticism and curiosity. and technology derived from that. Made available thru the adoption of ideas and concepts that proved out to advance it.

the adoption of cultural mores and norms to promote that.

Among them- to accept reality as it is. And work within it.

Socialism is a cult/ religion.


It always comes back to materialism. Karl Marx was right about that.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 6:28:48 PM EDT
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“ African-American Time”.  No joke. It was on the nursing state board. You must work around it.
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In what context?
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Explore that thought.  Why is that so?  South Africa was pretty successful.  But it too succumbed for the same reasons.

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ANC - Communist infiltration.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 6:29:50 PM EDT
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If white culture is so bad, why has there been the largest invasion in the history of man from third world non-white countries into white countries?

How many white people want to live in non-white countries?
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 6:30:31 PM EDT
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They have set up a ready made excuse for failure.

That list is "Systemic Racism", since it's built on "White Culture" whites can easily succeed in it and blacks fail because the "system is rigged against them".


But if the antithesis is "Black Culture", then these people are saying black culture is laziness, "non traditional families", illogic and irrationality, lack of ambition, lack of respect for time and being an asshole...which produces lack of results, but that they are ok with failure because they don't value winning or success...

Which really seems like an odd stance to take.
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"Systemic racism" only makes sense if you buy into the Marxist dialectic.  Under the Marxist dialectic, there is no such thing as personal responsibility or even personal morality.  Everything is based on being an oppressor or oppressed.  If you are an evil white male "oppressor" then everything you do is bad, even having a normal family.  If you are "oppressed" then everything bad that happens to you is due to something the "oppressors" did.

This is why Marxism always results in a mountain of skulls.  Everyone in gulag deserves to be there because they are from the "bad" group.  The people killing them are blameless because they are part of the "good" group.
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John Derbyshire did exactly that.  And was promptly fired from National Review.

But everything he wrote is still true.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 6:34:50 PM EDT
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The “formula for success” is whatever we decide it is.

For example, this list has thin blonde “barbie doll” looks as a measure of success.  Many other cultures define success as being fatter/larger.

Have you read this parable:

A successful businessman on vacation was at the pier of a small coastal village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The businessman complimented the fisherman on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them.

The fisherman proudly replied, “Every morning, I go out in my boat for 30 minutes to fish. I’m the best fisherman in the village”.

The businessman, perplexed, then asks the fisherman “If you’re the best, why don’t you stay out longer and catch more fish? What do you do the rest of the day?”

The fisherman replied “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, spend quality time with my wife, and every evening we stroll into the village to drink wine and play guitar with our friends. I have a full and happy life.”

The businessman scoffed, “I am successful CEO and have a talent for spotting business opportunities. I can help you be more successful. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds, buy a bigger boat. With the proceeds from the bigger boat, you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats with many fishermen. Instead of selling your catch to just your friends, you can scale to sell fish to thousands. You could leave this small coastal fishing village and move to the big city, where you can oversee your growing empire.”

The fisherman asked, “But, how long will this all take?”

To which the businessman replied, “15 – 20 years.”

“But what then?” Asked the fisherman.

The businessman laughed and said, “That’s the best part.  When the time is right you would announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions!”

“Millions – then what?”

The businessman said, “Then you would retire.  Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, spend time with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your friends.”


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But it's not 'white'. It's universal.

What's universal, the cultural traits being described? They're not universal at all.


The formula for success. Providing a service, skill, or product that people are willing to pay for. It's the KSAs. The work ethic. Showing up to work on time and working out your shift or finishing your projects. of adapting your business to the market. In free societies, these are the things that determined success or failure in the past for the most part. But the New Left socialist project in academia and government has been successfully changing those cultural norms and mores.


The “formula for success” is whatever we decide it is.

For example, this list has thin blonde “barbie doll” looks as a measure of success.  Many other cultures define success as being fatter/larger.

Have you read this parable:

A successful businessman on vacation was at the pier of a small coastal village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The businessman complimented the fisherman on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them.

The fisherman proudly replied, “Every morning, I go out in my boat for 30 minutes to fish. I’m the best fisherman in the village”.

The businessman, perplexed, then asks the fisherman “If you’re the best, why don’t you stay out longer and catch more fish? What do you do the rest of the day?”

The fisherman replied “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, spend quality time with my wife, and every evening we stroll into the village to drink wine and play guitar with our friends. I have a full and happy life.”

The businessman scoffed, “I am successful CEO and have a talent for spotting business opportunities. I can help you be more successful. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds, buy a bigger boat. With the proceeds from the bigger boat, you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats with many fishermen. Instead of selling your catch to just your friends, you can scale to sell fish to thousands. You could leave this small coastal fishing village and move to the big city, where you can oversee your growing empire.”

The fisherman asked, “But, how long will this all take?”

To which the businessman replied, “15 – 20 years.”

“But what then?” Asked the fisherman.

The businessman laughed and said, “That’s the best part.  When the time is right you would announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions!”

“Millions – then what?”

The businessman said, “Then you would retire.  Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, spend time with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your friends.”




That sounds great and all but what happens when the fisherman's kid has a medical condition that can't be treated because the person who was going to become a surgeon decided it was better to "sleep late, fish a little, play with his kids, spend time with his wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where he could sip wine and play his guitar with his friends” then pursue a career to become a surgeon?
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