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Posted: 8/21/2021 11:59:51 PM EDT
Got a new sap from Todd Foster.
9 inches 15 ounces. Shot filled. It would knock someone into next week. Saps and Jacks are the most under rated defense things you can carry IMO.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:00:15 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:01:32 AM EDT
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Beat it flatfoot
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:02:38 AM EDT
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You should see what I can do with 9 inches.
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:04:24 AM EDT
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Taki it all in can you?
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:05:30 AM EDT
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Quoted: Got a new sap from Todd Foster. 9 inches 15 ounces. Shot filled. It would knock someone into next week. Saps and Jacks are the most under rated defense things you can carry IMO. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/81840/354E0673-E708-4A01-B4B5-F0C8AD163399_jpe-2061529.JPG Find this interesting. For those scenarios where you don’t want to use a firearm, but still have a legal justification and need to adjust an attitude. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:06:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:06:56 AM EDT
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Quoted: Got a new sap from Todd Foster. 9 inches 15 ounces. Shot filled. It would knock someone into next week. Saps and Jacks are the most under rated defense things you can carry IMO. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/81840/354E0673-E708-4A01-B4B5-F0C8AD163399_jpe-2061529.JPG Nice, got a like for where you ordered it from? |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:07:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Find this interesting. For those scenarios where you don’t want to use a firearm, but still have a legal justification and need to adjust an attitude. The smaller ones fit great in a pocket and could be very handy.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:09:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice, got a like for where you ordered it from? Although it’s not ARFCOM approved the only way to get ahold of them is via their Facebook page. Foster Impact Devices They might have an old website still but it’s not used. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:11:57 AM EDT
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Filled mine with American dimes because it's a change purse.
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:17:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:18:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Filled mine with American dimes because it's a change purse. Love coin saps. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:27:27 AM EDT
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Nice, glad to see you scored on a drop!
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:29:16 AM EDT
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This isn't the 9 inch thing I expected.
 
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:30:35 AM EDT
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These seem interesting but it seems like every state has some archaic law from the 50's which will ruin your life if you're caught with one.
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:34:49 AM EDT
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I found one digging around in old crevaces of the PD years ago.
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:35:26 AM EDT
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Those locks they give away with guns work pretty well as saps, plus not illegal.
Nice little item to keep in the truck for just in case. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:37:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This isn't the 9 inch thing I expected. So, are you saying you were disappointed?
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:41:32 AM EDT
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Awesome. Only seen one used once. On an aggressive vagrant in downtown salt lake. Pioneer park early 1990’s.
Lights out. Wish I had it on video. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:41:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: These seem interesting but it seems like every state has some archaic law from the 50's which will ruin your life if you're caught with one. Yes…a few are legal though. Utah is good to go. I think texas is? ETA Utah you are good if you have a CCW. It covers “dangerous weapons”. I go to a barber shop where the AG of Utah goes ..I asked him he said it’s kinda a gray area and they are allowed. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:43:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Awesome. Only seen one used once. On an aggressive vagrant in downtown salt lake. Pioneer park early 1990’s. Lights out. Wish I had it on video. I can’t think of anything more effective that you can carry in a pocket..except a gun. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:44:37 AM EDT
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Some states laws are weird about shit like saps and blackjacks. Hence the "change purse" design popular among some of the EDC nerds. When I lived in Vegas they made a big deal in CCW classes about how saps/blackjacks/stun guns are all no go. Never made sense to me considering you could open carry about any gun you wanted and CCW with a permission slip.
My grandfather had a few that I wish I had today. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:45:09 AM EDT
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Dammit you cost me money.
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:45:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should see what I can do with 9 inches. Go on... Does it involve your mouth?
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:45:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: These seem interesting but it seems like every state has some archaic law from the 50's which will ruin your life if you're caught with one. Most places consider it a deadly weapon if you crack someone with it. Also many places (liberal shitholes) consider mere possession of it to be a misdemeanor. I was issued a large and a small sap in the academy back in 1998... Mine was one of the last classes to get them. Within 2 or 3 years they were taken out of policy in favor of expandable batons... |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:47:32 AM EDT
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Pa-THONK!
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:51:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those locks they give away with guns work pretty well as saps, plus not illegal. Nice little item to keep in the truck for just in case. Those stupid locks are one of those things I just never have been able to throw away but have yet to use for anything ever. I have boxes of the damn things from over the years. Today GD taught me that I own 87 saps and didn't even know it. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:51:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My grandfather had a few that I wish I had today. My granddaddy brother was chief of police in a small town in North Carolina told me said never hit with full power. you can break a man's arm with ease with an edge strike. Simple way to disable them with out too much trouble. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:56:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dammit you cost me money. Nice did you order one from somewhere? |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:57:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My granddaddy brother was chief of police in a small town in North Carolina told me said never hit with full power. you can break a man's arm with ease with an edge strike. Simple way to disable them with out too much trouble. Edge strikes would be brutal. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:57:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Filled mine with American dimes because it's a change purse. cat: "I should buy a coin purse" |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:58:36 AM EDT
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Quoted: Got a new sap from Todd Foster. 9 inches 15 ounces. Shot filled. It would knock someone into next week. Saps and Jacks are the most under rated defense things you can carry IMO. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/81840/354E0673-E708-4A01-B4B5-F0C8AD163399_jpe-2061529.JPG The Olympic Boxer, Todd Foster? |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 1:03:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice did you order one from somewhere? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Dammit you cost me money. Nice did you order one from somewhere? Not quite but I’m shopping. Your post brought back the memory of that night. I’ll likely never use it but gotta add one to the stable. If nothing else it will look good next to great grandpa’s well used 1920’s brass knuckles. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 1:06:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My granddaddy brother was chief of police in a small town in North Carolina told me said never hit with full power. you can break a man's arm with ease with an edge strike. Simple way to disable them with out too much trouble. I know nothing about saps, though they were only effective/used in smacking the noodle, Interesting. What is an edge strike? |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 1:10:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know nothing about saps, though they were only effective/used in smacking the noodle, Interesting. What is an edge strike? Instead of striking with the flat side …you’d turn it and strike with the edge. It is very rigid and more narrow and still has the punch of the lead in it. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 1:12:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/22/2021 1:18:24 AM EDT
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Laughs in
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Posted: 8/22/2021 1:21:14 AM EDT
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are these a fair price, you know for collecting?
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Posted: 8/22/2021 1:24:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My granddaddy brother was chief of police in a small town in North Carolina told me said never hit with full power. you can break a man's arm with ease with an edge strike. Simple way to disable them with out too much trouble. I’d believe it. An edge strike is brutal. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 1:28:02 AM EDT
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I have two that belonged to my father.
He was a Columbus cop. They both have scars from use, and one is split open on the seams and wrapped tightly in electrical tape. He told me he split the one on some drunk assholes hands. He put the guy up against his car, and the guy grabbed ahold of the “Mickey mouse” light on the top of the car. He repeatedly hit the guys hands to make him let go. He broke the guy’s hands, and the Mickey Mouse light. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 1:34:25 AM EDT
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My mom carried a 2 inch ball from a trailer hitch in her purse. She used it on a guy that tried to rob her. She knocked out 3 of his teeth with one swing.
Some Houston firemen saw what happened and came over to help my mom and held the guy until the cops came. This happened in 1977 or 1978 she was a pioneer of women's self-defense. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 1:35:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: are these a fair price, you know for collecting? Yes those are pretty decent for the money. A lot better than the Amazon cheapies. The Foster saps and jacks like I have are usually 150. But nobody makes them better. For reels. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 1:36:18 AM EDT
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I'd love to find out if things like these or brass knuckles are legal in AZ, especially with a CCW permit
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Posted: 8/22/2021 1:42:38 AM EDT
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This guy makes good “jacks”. They are the skinny ones…not the flat ones. A Jack would do more damage to someone IMO.
I wish he’d update his website. It’s horrible. https://ddwhips.wordpress.com/standard-blackjack-design-gallery/ |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 2:02:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: These seem interesting but it seems like every state has some archaic law from the 50's which will ruin your life if you're caught with one. That’s why you smack someone with a zippered one filled with change and not shot. Or get a disposable one. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 2:06:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should see what I can do with 9 inches. You're already incredible with 4! |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 2:16:56 AM EDT
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Here is one more iteration in a sense.
I have flown with this several times and TSA has never looked twice at it. I just clip it to my backpack and it looks like a key chain? Either way it’s never been a problem. The leather part is a loop that fits your hand and the snap hook part weighs 10 ounces. It would do a ton of damage also.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 2:29:09 AM EDT
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Quoted: Got a new sap from Todd Foster. 9 inches 15 ounces. Shot filled. It would knock someone into next week. Saps and Jacks are the most under rated defense things you can carry IMO. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/81840/354E0673-E708-4A01-B4B5-F0C8AD163399_jpe-2061529.JPG I've always wanted a sap and an asp, as well as an ASP. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 2:34:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Laughs in The only one that could use shillelagh for a walking stick is Yoda! |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 2:36:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The smaller ones fit great in a pocket and could be very handy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/81840/4C98361B-215C-4AFF-85D7-3562B0630493_jpe-2061537.JPG Gay bar sex toys? Da Fuq ? |
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