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Posted: 5/12/2019 10:59:26 PM EST
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Posted: 5/12/2019 11:02:45 PM EST
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Falcon got the Shield. War Machine is Colonel Rhodes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What the hell is war machine going to do with a shield. The Bucky should have got it it. At least he could have used it. |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 1:32:10 PM EST
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Watched it yesterday so I haven't read the whole thread.
How was bringing everyone back 5 years after teh snap not the worst possible outcome? One might argue it's a fate worse than death. Worldwide Famine, No Jobs, no industry, Some Countries don't exist anymore, borders have changed. New people have been born, new families, new governments and the only new car you can buy is an Audi. The house you lived in is either owned by someone else or lay waste from 5 years of neglect. No doubt there where tens of thousands people taking their own lives after the snap from depression or survivors gilt and whatnot. |
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Posted: 5/15/2019 8:58:23 PM EST
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Posted: 5/16/2019 6:57:41 AM EST
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Watched it yesterday so I haven't read the whole thread. How was bringing everyone back 5 years after teh snap not the worst possible outcome? One might argue it's a fate worse than death. Worldwide Famine, No Jobs, no industry, Some Countries don't exist anymore, borders have changed. New people have been born, new families, new governments and the only new car you can buy is an Audi. The house you lived in is either owned by someone else or lay waste from 5 years of neglect. No doubt there where tens of thousands people taking their own lives after the snap from depression or survivors gilt and whatnot. Better to have a fighting chance than be dead. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 4:29:45 PM EST
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OK. I finally got to see it. I have two observations:
1. In "Infinity War", Captain America made it a point to say that they don't trade lives. He said this when Vision said that they should destroy the mind stone to keep Thanos from wiping out half the universe. In "Endgame", they send Clint and Natasha to collect the soul stone knowing that they would have to do exactly that....trade a life for the stone. Even if most of the Avengers didn't know it, Nebula knew and Natasha referenced Thanos coming back with the soul stone but without his daughter. Why were they willing to "trade lives" in "Endgame" but not "Infinity War"? 2. In "Infinity War", Hulk was no-show. He returns in "Endgame" as Professor Hulk but they don't show him fighting at all. Even in the last epic fight, they don't show him kicking ass. I was surprised by this. Plenty of action with Cap, Ironman and Thor and even many of the broads....but after being MIA from the "Infinity War", i thought they would have shown him in more action I'm not sure if these were already addressed earlier in this thread. Great movie though |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 4:32:51 PM EST
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Watched it the other day.
So... if the stones all had to go back to their original places... why was Loki stealing the power stone and disappearing with it not a problem? By the logic expressed by the Mysterious bald cheenglishwoman, shouldn't that have fucked that reality all to hell? |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 4:33:33 PM EST
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OK. I finally got to see it. I have two observations: 1. In "Infinity War", Captain America made it a point to say that they don't trade lives. He said this when Vision said that they should destroy the mind stone to keep Thanos from wiping out half the universe. In "Endgame", they send Clint and Natasha to collect the soul stone knowing that they would have to do exactly that....trade a life for the stone. Even if most of the Avengers didn't know it, Nebula knew and Natasha referenced Thanos coming back with the soul stone but without his daughter. Why were they willing to "trade lives" in "Endgame" but not "Infinity War"? 2. In "Infinity War", Hulk was no-show. He returns in "Endgame" as Professor Hulk but they don't show him fighting at all. Even in the last epic fight, they don't show him kicking ass. I was surprised by this. Plenty of action with Cap, Ironman and Thor and even many of the broads....but after being MIA from the "Infinity War", i thought they would have shown him in more action I'm not sure if these were already addressed earlier in this thread. Great movie though |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 4:44:53 PM EST
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Why were they willing to "trade lives" in "Endgame" but not "Infinity War"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Why were they willing to "trade lives" in "Endgame" but not "Infinity War"? 
Even if most of the Avengers didn't know it, Nebula knew and Natasha referenced Thanos coming back with the soul stone but without his daughter. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 5:02:04 PM EST
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Watched it the other day. So... if the stones all had to go back to their original places... why was Loki stealing the power stone and disappearing with it not a problem? By the logic expressed by the Mysterious bald cheenglishwoman, shouldn't that have fucked that reality all to hell? Her logic really only applied to the time stone. So, I don’t understand the rest. There was no sorcerer requiring them to protect any reality. And, there’s still the question of how putting the power stone back in the hands of SHIELD/Hydra is good for any timeline.. and then there’s the practical question of how. It was hard enough to steal it. You’d have it introduce a third Cap to those scenes and do some serious sleight of hand, Would altering the “Loki takes it” timeline even be possible by the rules of the movie? Or is that reality now set? Seemed more like a plot excuse to take the stones [somewhat] out of the picture for future movies. There are now at least two branch realities that the movie doesn’t really address / wishes away - Loki with the power stone and Thor without Mjolnir. I guess you could also add the one (now their reality?) with Cap alive and living to an advanced age, even through the snapture. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:40:11 PM EST
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Didnt Cap take Mjolnir back along with the stones?
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:52:19 PM EST
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Didnt Cap take Mjolnir back along with the stones? |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 11:01:10 PM EST
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Nope. I enjoyed the movie and thought it was very well done. You were the one complaining because it had "less action than the first Avengers movie." Among other things. Enjoy your Transformers though. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 11:10:58 PM EST
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(snip) 1. In "Infinity War", Captain America made it a point to say that they don't trade lives. He said this when Vision said that they should destroy the mind stone to keep Thanos from wiping out half the universe. In "Endgame", they send Clint and Natasha to collect the soul stone knowing that they would have to do exactly that....trade a life for the stone. Even if most of the Avengers didn't know it, Nebula knew and Natasha referenced Thanos coming back with the soul stone but without his daughter. Why were they willing to "trade lives" in "Endgame" but not "Infinity War"? (snip) |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 11:15:29 PM EST
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Quite a bit of similarities between our GWOT veterans and how they cope with loss and war.
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Posted: 5/16/2019 11:17:07 PM EST
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Watched it the other day. So... if the stones all had to go back to their original places... why was Loki stealing the power stone and disappearing with it not a problem? By the logic expressed by the Mysterious bald cheenglishwoman, shouldn't that have fucked that reality all to hell? |
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Posted: 5/17/2019 6:31:42 AM EST
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Watched it the other day. So... if the stones all had to go back to their original places... why was Loki stealing the power stone and disappearing with it not a problem? By the logic expressed by the Mysterious bald cheenglishwoman, shouldn't that have fucked that reality all to hell? Personally I think the multiverse coming together via gaps or tears in the timestream (caused by the multiple Infinity Stone Snaps) is how they get the X-Men, Fantastic Four, and hopefully (if done well) other universes incorporated into the Avengers universe. |
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Posted: 5/17/2019 11:05:52 PM EST
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Finally saw this tonight with my 20 year old daughter. We've seen most of these films together so I'd promised her I'd take her to this one.
Meh. The film requires you to be emotionally invested in these characters before you even walk in. They stopped holding my interest around 4 years ago, so it was really, really painful how much this seemed like an overly long Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America film with dozens and dozens of brief cameos awkwardly shoehorned in wherever they do or do not fit. Chris Evans is REALLY starting to age. Even my daughter, who's had a crush on him for a decade, noticed. He's getting a bit saggy and jowly in the face. He's nearly 40 and LOOKS it in places. Probably best that he's done, they couldn't keep this up for much longer. Meanwhile Robert Downey Jr. doesn't seem to age at all, he's nearly 55 and other than some greying it doesn't show. Brie Larson is just TERRIBLE in this film. Just draw droppingly bad. She's only in around 4 scenes and all of them come to a shuddering crashing halt when she appears and sucks the energy right out of the room. In the end, way too much Chris Evans, not nearly enough Chris Pratt. But my daughter was openly weeping at the end, and I could hear other people sobbing in the 1/3 full theater, so I guess it connected with some people, just not me. 6/10? |
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Posted: 5/19/2019 5:01:56 PM EST
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Posted: 5/21/2019 11:52:55 AM EST
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Another thing i noticed was that Cap, Thor and Ironman all fought Thanos together but got their asses kicked. Wanda looked like she had Thanos beat and was about to tear him apart. Thanos seemed to only get out of that one by having his ship rain fire. I didnt realize she was that powerful
So much for Stormbreaker being the "Thanos killing kind" of weapon |
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Posted: 5/21/2019 12:24:22 PM EST
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Another thing i noticed was that Cap, Thor and Ironman all fought Thanos together but got their asses kicked. Wanda looked like she had Thanos beat and was about to tear him apart. Thanos seemed to only get out of that one by having his ship rain fire. I didnt realize she was that powerful So much for Stormbreaker being the "Thanos killing kind" of weapon She was in better shape than the others because she just came back from the Beyond. They’d just had hell rained down on them and fought Thanos before she came back. |
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Posted: 5/21/2019 4:49:09 PM EST
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Posted: 5/21/2019 5:27:54 PM EST
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Cool, maybe Sharon will introduce everyone to her Uncle Steve.
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Posted: 6/2/2019 7:29:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Edward Norton and him created a support group that meets twice a month. |
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Posted: 6/2/2019 7:46:08 AM EST
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Some thoughts, after reading this thread and watching numerous YouTube videos.
I think people are completely missing the point about Captain America. Steve Rogers going back in time didn’t have to create a branch universe, because it had always happened in this universe. Steve was the mysterious never-photographed, never named soldier Peggy Carter later married. He figured that out sometime during Endgame, and thus new it was his destiny and not a risk to the timeline. There are plenty of hints to this building up to it. He took an assumed identity and stayed out of the limelight, lest he be recognized. |
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Posted: 6/2/2019 7:53:36 AM EST
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Some thoughts, after reading this thread and watching numerous YouTube videos. I think people are completely missing the point about Captain America. Steve Rogers going back in time didn’t have to create a branch universe, because it had always happened in this universe. Steve was the mysterious never-photographed, never named soldier Peggy Carter later married. He figured that out sometime during Endgame, and thus new it was his destiny and not a risk to the timeline. There are plenty of hints to this building up to it. He took an assumed identity and stayed out of the limelight, lest he be recognized. |
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Posted: 6/2/2019 7:55:48 AM EST
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He burned the Avengers to the ground to do 'The right thing' and keep Bucky out of jail, but played house husband and did nothing while Hydra took over Shield? He traded a shitload of lives for his happy ending dance. Agent Carter better have been worth it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Some thoughts, after reading this thread and watching numerous YouTube videos. I think people are completely missing the point about Captain America. Steve Rogers going back in time didn’t have to create a branch universe, because it had always happened in this universe. Steve was the mysterious never-photographed, never named soldier Peggy Carter later married. He figured that out sometime during Endgame, and thus new it was his destiny and not a risk to the timeline. There are plenty of hints to this building up to it. He took an assumed identity and stayed out of the limelight, lest he be recognized. |
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Posted: 6/2/2019 8:06:39 AM EST
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[youtube]https://youtu.be/ZqDD2kEKHhY[/youtube]
All of these scenes take on a new meaning if Rogers shows up in 1950 or so and assumes a new identity. It explains why there are no photos of Peggy’s husband, only children. It also offers a new twist to Peggy’s “best thing we can do is start over” and “you came back” lines. |
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Posted: 6/2/2019 10:33:55 AM EST
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I'm sure that all this has already been mentioned but,
If if current Thor brings mjolnir back with him, how did past Thor have mjolnir to lose to his sister? Captain Marvel first kicks Thanos ass and then gets her ass kicked rather soundly? If Thanos from the past comes to the future and gets dissolved what happened to Thanos in the middle? (I was really hoping they would address the timeline inconsistencies better) |
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Posted: 6/2/2019 10:35:21 AM EST
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I'm sure that all this has already been mentioned but, If if current Thor brings mjolnir back with him, how did past Thor have mjolnir to lose to his sister? Captain Marvel first kicks Thanos ass and then gets her ass kicked rather soundly? If Thanos from the past comes to the future and gets dissolved what happened to Thanos in the middle? (I was really hoping they would address the timeline inconsistencies better) |
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Posted: 6/2/2019 10:46:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They addressed all of that. Different branched timelines, would not affect their own. |
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Posted: 6/2/2019 10:50:47 AM EST
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Guess I missed that part for a potty break. That's what I get for bringing kids. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: They addressed all of that. Different branched timelines, would not affect their own. That’s why some said that what Rogers did was inconsistent, in that he shouldn’t have been able to go back and change that timeline with Peggy, and still be in the one the rest were in. But, I’m saying that was the timelines they’ve been in the whole time. |
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Posted: 6/2/2019 12:29:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So much for Stormbreaker being the "Thanos killing kind" of weapon |
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Posted: 6/2/2019 12:43:39 PM EST
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If if current Thor brings mjolnir back with him, how did past Thor have mjolnir to lose to his sister? |
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Posted: 6/2/2019 1:15:11 PM EST
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I'm sure that all this has already been mentioned but, Captain Marvel first kicks Thanos ass and then gets her ass kicked rather soundly? If Thanos from the past comes to the future and gets dissolved what happened to Thanos in the middle? A new timeline is created branching off at the point where Thanos and his army depart their own time for the future (or at the point that they discover the time travelling Nebula, leading to that departure). They never return from their trip, and that timeline never has to deal with Thanos ever again. |
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Posted: 6/2/2019 2:19:59 PM EST
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Posted: 6/2/2019 3:32:27 PM EST
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Yep. He was a huge risk. Especially when you consider what actors almost got the role. (Tom Cruise, Hugh Jackman, Nicolas Cage, among others) |
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Posted: 6/5/2019 7:33:02 AM EST
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