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Posted: 2/1/2016 12:51:23 AM EDT
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Racist. Wasis if you are in east Asia. 
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Posted: 2/1/2016 12:51:35 AM EDT
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 ... <--------- This is my "shocked" face.
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Posted: 2/1/2016 1:04:18 AM EDT
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Poll is bullshit. Us avg has to now be about 60 max.
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Posted: 2/1/2016 1:11:07 AM EDT
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IIRC German Shepherds usually score mid 70s. Any chance they could be taught Arabic? Zorgie frown upon your thought of him learning Arabic to "talk" with refuges. 
He has a better idea: 
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Posted: 2/1/2016 1:14:23 AM EDT
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Higher than I would have guessed.
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Posted: 2/1/2016 1:24:11 AM EDT
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I remember a book "IQ 84" or " IQ 86" or something. The 86'ers liked to screw alot....
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Posted: 2/1/2016 1:29:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wish to know more. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:Meh, cousin x cousin interbreeding is actually pretty standard. Charles Darwin married his cousin, as did Albert Einstein. Also, it's important to understand the genetic diversity in a population. A group of relatively isolated people are often genetically very closely related regardless of if they avoid marrying 2nd cousins or closer. And really, for the vast majority of human history, that's how we all lived...in small tribal clan-groups who avoided marrying siblings and offspring, but generally married moderately close relatives with the occasional infusion of outside blood from a raid were womenfolk from a neighboring enemy group got carried off. There are some genetic risks for having a small gene pool, but for the most part they are greatly overstated. Plants have genes and DNA same as us (you really have to get to very primitive one-celled organisms before you find something without genes and DNA) and many of them self-fertilize. If close relative breedings were across the board terrible, then evolutionary pressure would have pushed them all to cross-fertilize. Cheetah population almost went extinct 12,000 years ago. Genetically, the survivors appeared to have been a parent and a handful of offspring. So a cheetah now crossing with a cheetah who is a hundred generations removed is more similar genetically than cousin to cousin breedings. This hasn't stopped the Cheetah population from rebounding until the industrial age. Yes, there are some things like low sperm count that are linked to the extreme inbreeding. The real risk is if there is a new disease that can infect 1 cheetah, it can infect ALL cheetah. You are unlikely to find a lucky few who are immune. Still, they aren't drooling retards due to 12,000 years of basically mother-son, brother-sister inbreeding. I wish to know more.  |
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Posted: 2/1/2016 1:54:44 AM EDT
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Hot cousin? 
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Posted: 2/1/2016 2:10:38 AM EDT
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Like a pint a pound the world around. Average IQ should be the same everywhere. The test is biased No it's not, as in everything some are better than others in many measures on average. Tell me where the fastest marathon runners come from, here's a hint not the US or Europe. Sprinters, jumpers, weightlifting etc. Just like physical traits can be different so can mental traits. True science and nature don't give a fart about your feels. Genetics does what it does. |
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Posted: 2/1/2016 5:09:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wish to know more. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:Meh, cousin x cousin interbreeding is actually pretty standard. Charles Darwin married his cousin, as did Albert Einstein. Also, it's important to understand the genetic diversity in a population. A group of relatively isolated people are often genetically very closely related regardless of if they avoid marrying 2nd cousins or closer. And really, for the vast majority of human history, that's how we all lived...in small tribal clan-groups who avoided marrying siblings and offspring, but generally married moderately close relatives with the occasional infusion of outside blood from a raid were womenfolk from a neighboring enemy group got carried off. There are some genetic risks for having a small gene pool, but for the most part they are greatly overstated. Plants have genes and DNA same as us (you really have to get to very primitive one-celled organisms before you find something without genes and DNA) and many of them self-fertilize. If close relative breedings were across the board terrible, then evolutionary pressure would have pushed them all to cross-fertilize. Cheetah population almost went extinct 12,000 years ago. Genetically, the survivors appeared to have been a parent and a handful of offspring. So a cheetah now crossing with a cheetah who is a hundred generations removed is more similar genetically than cousin to cousin breedings. This hasn't stopped the Cheetah population from rebounding until the industrial age. Yes, there are some things like low sperm count that are linked to the extreme inbreeding. The real risk is if there is a new disease that can infect 1 cheetah, it can infect ALL cheetah. You are unlikely to find a lucky few who are immune. Still, they aren't drooling retards due to 12,000 years of basically mother-son, brother-sister inbreeding. I wish to know more. |
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Posted: 2/1/2016 6:27:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks! I've aways been curious about that. I only had my IQ tested once (6th grade) and wasn't sure if the results were still applicable. Eta: my mom recently gave me some old papers from school and one of them was the test results. I had completely forgotten the whole thing until I saw it. I've taken a few of those online ones and they were mostly pretty close to the results of the actual testing done in 6th grade. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just out of curiosity would an IQ test taken in 6th grade be an accurate representation of someone's IQ when the are 40? Unless you've had a head injury, yeah it's going to be within a few points. Despite what the PC crowd will have to say on the subject IQ is mostly genetic and isn't very responsive to environment unless you're talking about serious childhood deprivation. Thanks! I've aways been curious about that. I only had my IQ tested once (6th grade) and wasn't sure if the results were still applicable. Eta: my mom recently gave me some old papers from school and one of them was the test results. I had completely forgotten the whole thing until I saw it. I've taken a few of those online ones and they were mostly pretty close to the results of the actual testing done in 6th grade. Have you used pot needles since then? If so, your IQ has dropped by at least 50%. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 12:31:24 AM EDT
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I always thought average IQs were much higher. I thought an IQ under 100 was basically retarded.
So someone with an IQ of 99 is actually a fairly smart person? |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 12:39:03 AM EDT
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I always thought average IQs were much higher. I thought an IQ under 100 was basically retarded. So someone with an IQ of 99 is actually a fairly smart person? Anything above 95 is considered pretty good now I think. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 12:40:47 AM EDT
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Average IQ in the Middle East is about 84? How much did it go up after most of the Marine camps closed down?
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Posted: 2/4/2016 12:41:22 AM EDT
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I always thought average IQs were much higher. I thought an IQ under 100 was basically retarded. So someone with an IQ of 99 is actually a fairly smart person? 
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Posted: 2/4/2016 12:43:53 AM EDT
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Are you sure this wasn't meant to say average iq of trump supporters is 84?
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Posted: 2/4/2016 2:39:48 AM EDT
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No it's not, as in everything some are better than others in many measures on average. Tell me where the fastest marathon runners come from, here's a hint not the US or Europe. Sprinters, jumpers, weightlifting etc. Just like physical traits can be different so can mental traits. True science and nature don't give a fart about your feels. Genetics does what it does. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Like a pint a pound the world around. Average IQ should be the same everywhere. The test is biased No it's not, as in everything some are better than others in many measures on average. Tell me where the fastest marathon runners come from, here's a hint not the US or Europe. Sprinters, jumpers, weightlifting etc. Just like physical traits can be different so can mental traits. True science and nature don't give a fart about your feels. Genetics does what it does. 
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Posted: 2/4/2016 2:53:30 AM EDT
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Is the use of kohl as an eyeliner still widespread? Lead poisoning as an adolescent can make you stupid as fuck.
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Posted: 2/4/2016 3:24:19 AM EDT
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On a positive note .... due to inter-species relations goat IQs in the Middle East are higher than they've ever been.
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Posted: 2/4/2016 11:01:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dangit, I missed out on some fine cousin breeding. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I wish to know more. I always heard the minimum breeding population for humans was something like 300. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 11:09:57 AM EDT
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Quote History"Fuck these retards, I'd rather live where it's cold. Pack it up honey we're getting tfo." |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 7:26:17 PM EDT
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Inbreeding never works out well. The Ashkenazy Jews laugh at your assertion, and pity your feeble mind. 
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Posted: 2/5/2016 12:14:32 AM EDT
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I have met a few Mensa members. One way or another they make sure you know they are members..........otherwise you wouldn’t know. So, like fighter pilots.. 
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Posted: 2/5/2016 12:31:37 AM EDT
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lol they are not anymore retarded than anyone else. they dont have the education. to a guy who digs up roots to eat a triangle may as well be a spaceship. take a 140 iq guy and drop him in the retards area and they will all be laughing at the retarded white guy who died around the campfire that night. I love all the comments from the 'Tard apologists. 
It's ok that some groups can run faster, or jump higher. Why is it not ok that some groups can think better? This isn't even controversial, folks. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 12:38:18 AM EDT
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We have more Mensa cards in GD than the entire Middle East 87% have 850 credit scores. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 12:38:35 AM EDT
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I'm moving to Equatorial Guinea to begin my new life as a professor. 
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Posted: 2/5/2016 2:14:02 AM EDT
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If you give an IQ test to a bunch of illiterate people, you'll get a bunch of crap scores. It doesn't mean they're retarded--it means they can't read. Nobody can read a really good IQ test because there literally no words on them. Whether you can read or not doesn't affect the score at all. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 2:23:24 AM EDT
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Nobody can read a really good IQ test because there literally no words on them. Whether you can read or not doesn't affect the score at all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you give an IQ test to a bunch of illiterate people, you'll get a bunch of crap scores. It doesn't mean they're retarded--it means they can't read. Nobody can read a really good IQ test because there literally no words on them. Whether you can read or not doesn't affect the score at all. Yes, though the skills necessitated by a language/culture blind IQ test still rely on learned traits that are not stressed in societies characterized by an "illiterate" populace, which I think was rkh's point, not the language barrier specifically. Abstraction and geometric manipulation, Perceptual Reasoning is likely not found within the set of human skills relied upon heavily by such societies. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 2:49:49 AM EDT
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Yes, though the skills necessitated by a language/culture blind IQ test still rely on learned traits that are not stressed in societies characterized by an "illiterate" populace, which I think was rkh's point, not the language barrier specifically. Abstraction and geometric manipulation, Perceptual Reasoning is likely not found within the set of human skills relied upon heavily by such societies. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you give an IQ test to a bunch of illiterate people, you'll get a bunch of crap scores. It doesn't mean they're retarded--it means they can't read. Nobody can read a really good IQ test because there literally no words on them. Whether you can read or not doesn't affect the score at all. Yes, though the skills necessitated by a language/culture blind IQ test still rely on learned traits that are not stressed in societies characterized by an "illiterate" populace, which I think was rkh's point, not the language barrier specifically. Abstraction and geometric manipulation, Perceptual Reasoning is likely not found within the set of human skills relied upon heavily by such societies. And yet really smart statistical outliers exist in all these societies using those very same tests. How did they gain this "knowledge" when it isn't available to them? The exact opposite of what you are saying is actually true. Abstract and geometric manipulation and perceptual reasoning are lacking in these cultures because they don't have the inherent intelligence. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 8:04:30 AM EDT
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And yet really smart statistical outliers exist in all these societies using those very same tests. How did they gain this "knowledge" when it isn't available to them? The exact opposite of what you are saying is actually true. Abstract and geometric manipulation and perceptual reasoning are lacking in these cultures because they don't have the inherent intelligence. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you give an IQ test to a bunch of illiterate people, you'll get a bunch of crap scores. It doesn't mean they're retarded--it means they can't read. Nobody can read a really good IQ test because there literally no words on them. Whether you can read or not doesn't affect the score at all. Yes, though the skills necessitated by a language/culture blind IQ test still rely on learned traits that are not stressed in societies characterized by an "illiterate" populace, which I think was rkh's point, not the language barrier specifically. Abstraction and geometric manipulation, Perceptual Reasoning is likely not found within the set of human skills relied upon heavily by such societies. And yet really smart statistical outliers exist in all these societies using those very same tests. How did they gain this "knowledge" when it isn't available to them? The exact opposite of what you are saying is actually true. Abstract and geometric manipulation and perceptual reasoning are lacking in these cultures because they don't have the inherent intelligence. Well if these really smart statistical outliers don't fall within the more general pattern of a score distribution that is approximately normal, then I'm not sure what your point is, or why it involves a norm referenced test in the first place. Um.. Whether or not that this true is the entire point of this discussion... 
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Posted: 2/5/2016 8:30:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The criticisms i've read about IQ test is that it's standardized on white middle class culture and therefore isn't accurate with cultures that wouldn't get references. Something to that effect. You'd have to make sure the test matches the language and culture of the nation for it to give an accurate reflection. I think a lack of education, foolish socialist indoctrination, and violent/morally corrupt culture are bigger factors in a countries economic success than supposed IQ. Modern tests do not suffer from the problem. There are samples online, go find one and look for yourself. Also, there's a great video on Youtube by a researcher who goes to verify the claims that Africans have lower average IQ and he goes into detail about the methods they used... his conclusion was still ... Africans have low IQ. Don't believe everything (or anything) liberals say. Just like muslems, they'll lie to you to get their way and get you to think a certain way. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 8:51:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh, cousin x cousin interbreeding is actually pretty standard. Charles Darwin married his cousin, as did Albert Einstein. Also, it's important to understand the genetic diversity in a population. A group of relatively isolated people are often genetically very closely related regardless of if they avoid marrying 2nd cousins or closer. And really, for the vast majority of human history, that's how we all lived...in small tribal clan-groups who avoided marrying siblings and offspring, but generally married moderately close relatives with the occasional infusion of outside blood from a raid were womenfolk from a neighboring enemy group got carried off. There are some genetic risks for having a small gene pool, but for the most part they are greatly overstated. Plants have genes and DNA same as us (you really have to get to very primitive one-celled organisms before you find something without genes and DNA) and many of them self-fertilize. If close relative breedings were across the board terrible, then evolutionary pressure would have pushed them all to cross-fertilize. Cheetah population almost went extinct 12,000 years ago. Genetically, the survivors appeared to have been a parent and a handful of offspring. So a cheetah now crossing with a cheetah who is a hundred generations removed is more similar genetically than cousin to cousin breedings. This hasn't stopped the Cheetah population from rebounding until the industrial age. Yes, there are some things like low sperm count that are linked to the extreme inbreeding. The real risk is if there is a new disease that can infect 1 cheetah, it can infect ALL cheetah. You are unlikely to find a lucky few who are immune. Still, they aren't drooling retards due to 12,000 years of basically mother-son, brother-sister inbreeding. Pyramids were built buy them, thus the cat worship going on there. Human slaves to cats! Something modern cats are trying to re-achieve today! The genetic diversity of small groups and tribes was greatly increased once agriculture, trade, and larger towns were created. That may have started a cascade of rapid (relatively speaking) increase in average intelligence of humans. Plants don't have the subtlety of intelligence making a big difference in individuals. The assumption that "plants aren't diverse therefore it can't hurt humans" much is just plain false. Humans are much more fragile in that respect. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 9:10:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: eh, I'm gunna call bullshit on the study, unless they have very liberal definitions of the word succeed. Personal Motivation and work ethic has much more to do with success than raw intellectual capacity. I score in the 98th percentile, my brother on the other hand is at somewhere like the 45th percentile but has a much more motivated and aggressive personality, where as I'm pretty easy going. He does quite a bit better financially than I. Intelligence will get you a better job out of the gate, and will open up better jobs once in the door at whatever level. Which, do you think would give you any chance at all of becoming "a success" and a statistical outlier that achieves far beyond others: 1. Outboard motor refurbishment guy. 2. Tax preparer guy. #1 is going to make money on the shop floor if he busts his ass, maybe supervisor. He MIGHT own a small business after a lifetime of busting ass. He can retire nicely. #2 will make enough to buy his own franchise, or run a big accounting firm if he busts his ass... or do a lot more. He can retire nicely on his own island. The second one, also has about 1,000 times the earning potential, and about 10,000 times the power associated with it. Don't believe Forest Gump, he's a fictional character. The world doesn't work like it does in books and movies. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 9:12:34 AM EDT
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It was 83 but then 2minkey left.
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Posted: 2/5/2016 9:12:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IIRC German Shepherds usually score mid 70s. Any chance they could be taught Arabic? Im not sure, but they can be taught to fuck a goat. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 9:22:46 AM EDT
[#37]
I'm shocked.
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Posted: 2/5/2016 9:29:53 AM EDT
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It was 83 but then 2minkey left. LoL where is that ROPer nut licking fuck? |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 9:56:49 AM EDT
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higher than Arfcoms average Actually our average is 3 points higher 
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Posted: 2/5/2016 9:59:18 AM EDT
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Jesus Christ even I have a higher IQ than that!!
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Posted: 2/5/2016 10:52:12 AM EDT
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I just want to say that I'd like to burn down the site in the link because I wasted a crap ton of time on their IQ test only to end up having to log in via facebook (which I don't have) to get my answer. I suppose that in itself knocks my IQ down a notch or two.
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Posted: 2/5/2016 12:15:46 PM EDT
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I just want to say that I'd like to burn down the site in the link because I wasted a crap ton of time on their IQ test only to end up having to log in via facebook (which I don't have) to get my answer. I suppose that in itself knocks my IQ down a notch or two. It gets worse. After logging in via facebook, you still have to pay to get your results. More than just a waste of time, it's a scam. 
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Posted: 2/5/2016 12:32:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, like fighter pilots.. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have met a few Mensa members. One way or another they make sure you know they are members..........otherwise you wouldn’t know. So, like fighter pilots.. Hi, my name is Skillshot and I'm not smart enough to make it into mensa. There's one part of the test that my brain isn't designed to do, re-arrange the jumbled letters into a real word. I took their entry test online and they started spamming my email so I found the email of the local chapter person and said Stop sending me emails I'm to dumb for your smart person club! |
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