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Posted: 12/31/2023 8:22:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree but using the cops logic. If you do the speed limit I'll stop you. If you speed faster than the posted speed limit I'll stop you.  Point is you can't win either way. Sure you can win. If you're being passed on the right, then change lanes. Don't worry about who cops are pulling over or not. Drive the speed limit, drive under the speed limit, drive over the speed limit. Just move to the right if you're getting passed on the right, cause you aren't in the correct lane. Don't worry about getting passed by people speeding. Then maybe we would have seen someone speeding get pulled over instead of someone too lazy to change lanes. I get your point, but just ponder it for a moment. It isn't a lose-lose situation by any means. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 8:22:54 PM EST
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I'd love to drive in the left lane going the speed limit with my left turn signal on and my BFL sticker on my back window.
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Posted: 12/31/2023 8:26:25 PM EST
[#3]
Drove across Arizona several times towing trailers and just stayed in either the middle lane of 3 or the right lane of two.
Easy Peasy. Don't be a dick blocking faster traffic. Let left faster traffic flow past and everybody can be happy! Bigger_Hammer 
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Posted: 12/31/2023 8:31:21 PM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, it has a restriction of to be used for passing only. Sort of like that strip through the middle of town is for turning, you don't just drive in it. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 8:58:01 PM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I rarely see any vehicles move out of the left lane once the right lane is clear up ahead. You can say it's a passing lane, but it's really just a cruising at high speed lane. Which is fine, but I think what you have are people like the guy in OPs video that just wants to do the speed limit without having to hop in and out of the right lane all the time coming up on slower traffic, and you have left lane drivers that just want to cruise at high speed in the left lane without moving back to the right when it's clear. So, two types of lazy drivers abusing it, that is, if the left is truly for passing only. Cruising it isn't an issue. Unless you're holding up faster traffic because you don't want to change lanes. It isn't complicated. It's very, very straight forward. If someone behind you, or to the right of you is faster then you need to move over to the right. If someone in front of you is slower, then you should be able to move to the left to go around them. If no one behind you faster then you, and no one is in front of you slower than you, do whatever you want. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 9:06:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess you’re not a fan of his internet persona? He’s got quite a huge following. How could anyone be a fan of a dude that gets paid by tax dollars, has been caught lying, and gets off on his power and false sense of authority? I don’t know if his mind has changed but when I knew him 3 years ago he supported an AWB and complete ban on suppressors. It’s also odd that his tickets are like never filed. The people that follow him could watch Frank kill someone for zero reason and they’d still like him. Just go look at the comments. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 9:06:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We need that in TN. No one is in a fuckin hurry here. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 9:07:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I spend the summer and fall going up north to prep for hunting and then actually hunting, about 200 miles each way. The left lane is always clogged by overweight, bald, white-goatteed boomers in their Ram/Silverado/F-150 doing 5 over while a mile of cars backs up behind them. I go fast, so I'm always coming up on people in the left lane. Cars seem to move, but a boomer truck will camp the whole time while everyone pours around them on the left side. Boomer trucks are bad enough but if you have a toy hauler you have no business being in the left lane on the highway. 
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Posted: 12/31/2023 9:12:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The video was showing him in the middle lane of a 3 lane highway, not the left lane. According to the video, the cop was wrong. No you're wrong. Unless the guy's vehicle magically transformed from a burgundy F-150 to a white Ridgeline. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 9:25:04 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How could anyone be a fan of a dude that gets paid by tax dollars, has been caught lying, and gets off on his power and false sense of authority? I don’t know if his mind has changed but when I knew him 3 years ago he supported an AWB and complete ban on suppressors. It’s also odd that his tickets are like never filed. The people that follow him could watch Frank kill someone for zero reason and they’d still like him. Just go look at the comments. I’ve actually only watched a portion of one of those videos, they’re a little too snarky for on-duty interactions in my opinion. Where did you get the impression that he’s pro AWB? I know he’s a big shooting and hunting guy, be surprised if he’s anti-gun. But maybe, I guess. @StillGonnaSendIt |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 9:30:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve actually only watched a portion of one of those videos, they’re a little too snarky for on-duty interactions in my opinion. Where did you get the impression that he’s pro AWB? I know he’s a big shooting and hunting guy, be surprised if he’s anti-gun. But maybe, I guess. @StillGonnaSendIt He’s from Long Island and I’ve had interactions with him when I was in AZ. Not on duty interactions where I was being detained or anything. But he’s a friend of a buddy out there. He very well could have changed but I have no idea. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 9:35:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cruising it isn't an issue. Unless you're holding up faster traffic because you don't want to change lanes. It isn't complicated. It's very, very straight forward. If someone behind you, or to the right of you is faster then you need to move over to the right. If someone in front of you is slower, then you should be able to move to the left to go around them. If no one behind you faster then you, and no one is in front of you slower than you, do whatever you want. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 9:41:46 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A simple solution that I'd love to see implemented is have a mildly annoying rumble strip in the left lane. The NPCs with double digit IQs will naturally herd themselves into the right lane due to the mild annoyance. It doesn't even have to be the entire length of the left lane. Maybe every 30 seconds make it rumble enough for a few seconds to trigger their lizard brain into moving out of the fucking way. That's actually a brilliant idea and would probably work. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 9:51:55 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's because we leave the house with plenty of time to get where we are going on time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We need that in TN. No one is in a fuckin hurry here. On interstates in rural areas traffic in TN would mysteriously slow down, like people were looking at an accident, but there was nothing there. Then they'd all speed up again |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 9:53:28 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sure wish there was a lot more of that nationwide. Fuck left lane campers! They should be sent to FEMA re-education camps. Nobody wants to hear your bullshit about how you're doing the speed limit. Fuck you.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 9:55:31 PM EST
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What kind of Texan does the speed? We should deport him.
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Posted: 12/31/2023 10:15:37 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The video was showing him in the middle lane of a 3 lane highway, not the left lane. According to the video, the cop was wrong. No, the car was in the left lane. He's in front and to the left of the car you're talking about. Also weird is the guy is from Texas where it is against the law to drive in the LH lane if you're not passing. That should be his normal habit. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 10:26:30 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, the car was in the left lane. He's in front and to the left of the car you're talking about. Also weird is the guy is from Texas where it is against the law to drive in the LH lane if you're not passing. That should be his normal habit. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 10:28:59 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He basically said hey douche bag, this is Arizona where is your gun? Here take mine. The driver is damn lucky he didn’t get cited for operating a motor vehicle without a firearm.  |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 10:36:20 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You really expect the kinds of people that put their hazards on in the rain to not only understand that the left is for passing only, but also subtle nuances where it isn't just for passing? And then make those decisions at 80mph? LOL. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Cruising it isn't an issue. Unless you're holding up faster traffic because you don't want to change lanes. It isn't complicated. It's very, very straight forward. If someone behind you, or to the right of you is faster then you need to move over to the right. If someone in front of you is slower, then you should be able to move to the left to go around them. If no one behind you faster then you, and no one is in front of you slower than you, do whatever you want. Yes. It isn't that hard. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 10:45:23 PM EST
[#21]
Lots of smaller freeway in Az have signs posted that the left lane is for passing only. My guess is one of those signs was posted on the freeway. And Sheriff Lamb is awesome.
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Posted: 12/31/2023 10:58:51 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Florida is working to fix the problem. Camp in the woods, not the left lane. Florida has something similar already. F.S.S. 316.081 says if you are in the left lane and are approached from behind by someone going faster, you are to move over to the right lane. I’ve stopped a few people recently with it, especially when cars start stacking up behind them and they’ve had ample time to move over. It’s the same response each time, “I didnt know I couldn’t do that” or “I was going the speed limit”. Florida has it where you can’t be fined for going 5 over, so traffic is usually going at least 5 over, with 8-10 over the norm. I’ve noticed a lot higher in Central Florida. |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 12:37:46 AM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lots of smaller freeway in Az have signs posted that the left lane is for passing only. My guess is one of those signs was posted on the freeway. And Sheriff Lamb is awesome. I10 also says commercial vehicles in the right lane only but dumb ass semi trucks still park in the left lane. Driving to phoenix from Tucson is a pita some times. Traffic comes to a dead stop on The interstate |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 12:43:35 AM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I10 also says commercial vehicles in the right lane only but dumb ass semi trucks still park in the left lane. Driving to phoenix from Tucson is a pita some times. Traffic comes to a dead stop on The interstate |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 12:45:07 AM EST
[#25]
Misleading title. That is not what that piece of shit was pulled over for.
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Posted: 1/1/2024 12:45:47 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Common sense is gone, never to return. |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 12:53:19 AM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You think you are important, apparently Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:Left lane ragers get the bullet when I am king. You are not important. Relax.  |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 12:59:21 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why the fuck would you want to drive with a line of cars up your ass anyhow. Who gives a fuck if someone wants to go faster than you, it's not your job to regulate the speed on the road. Get out of the way I like having someone going 10-15 over ahead of me…so I can go 9 over (in the right or middle lane, of course) and not worry about getting stopped. |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 1:04:35 AM EST
[#29]
Speeding is illegal as is left lane camping. Only illegal to the extent of being enforced. Yes, highway patrol gives leeway on speeding when traffic starts to clog up.
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Posted: 1/1/2024 1:52:35 AM EST
[#30]
AZ still have speed cameras?
Someone driving the speed limit and causing others to drive the speed limit can seriously affect revenue. 
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Posted: 1/1/2024 2:08:18 AM EST
[#31]
I would think someone from Texas would know the left lane is for passing/speeding. Based on the driver's voice.. transplant from CA.
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Posted: 1/1/2024 2:17:44 AM EST
[#32]
Damn right.
I was pulled over in TX for driving in the left lane once. There was nobody else around that I was impeding or even for me to, it was late at night out in a rural area on the HWY and I was pulled over because I was driving in the passing lane. |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 2:53:52 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In WV a few years back we had a delegate introduce a bill to make left lane camping a misdemeanor. Unfortunately it didn't go anywhere. It's well known that troopers will pull people for it because the campers are typically from out of state. TX is a “left-lane” state meaning that once you complete your pass, you are required to move out of the left lane. OH and OK are also left-lane states. ETA: OH may not be a left-lane state according to another poster, but I do remember a campaign that they run in the mid-1980s about ticketing LLCs. Also, to clarify the TX part, even if there is no one else on the road (regardless of the passing part), you are still not supposed to drive in the left lane. WV is a “move-over” state which means that you can drive in the left lane all the time until someone pulls up behind you, and then you have to move over (i.e. yield the right of way). This was explained to me by the instructor [name removed] who taught traffic law at the academy to every WV State Trooper. You can be cited for impeding the flow of traffic, so you don’t really need a left-lane statute. I used to have a map of every state showing which ones were left-lane versus move-over. If I remember correctly, the move-over states are in the minority, and move-over has nothing to do with the emergency vehicle laws that have been passed in the last few years. I don’t remember a state being both. |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 3:46:47 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the legal speed limit for passing? Is it 5 over? 10 over? Are we advocating breaking the law on this site now? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So does the left lane have a higher speed limit than the right lane? What is the legal speed limit for passing? Is it 5 over? 10 over? Are we advocating breaking the law on this site now? Not all states have absolute speed limits. Some, like TX, have prima facie speed limits which, as has already been posted, are considered reasonable and prudent for the conditions. |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 3:59:46 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Texan road hog . No matter which road (I-10, I-20, 285) I leave/enter TX, I can tell whether I’m in TX or not by the number of vehicles in the left lane. |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 5:03:46 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Point stands. Cop is full if shit, as most are. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Or, you know, get the fuck out of the left lane. Point stands. Cop is full if shit, as most are. The cop is doing God’s work. |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 7:57:24 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Florida has something similar already. F.S.S. 316.081 says if you are in the left lane and are approached from behind by someone going faster, you are to move over to the right lane. I’ve stopped a few people recently with it, especially when cars start stacking up behind them and they’ve had ample time to move over. It’s the same response each time, “I didnt know I couldn’t do that” or “I was going the speed limit”. Florida has it where you can’t be fined for going 5 over, so traffic is usually going at least 5 over, with 8-10 over the norm. I’ve noticed a lot higher in Central Florida. I wasn't aware it was enforceable just yet but I know the "rule" has been in print forever. And yes, the Veterans Expressway seems to be a 90mph highway to just about everyone. I've found myself in a line of vehicles all doing 100mph in the left lane on the way to Tampa. Don't ever use the express lane though, you'll always end up stuck in it behind someone doing exactly the speed limit while traffic outside of the dividers passes you by. |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 8:37:51 AM EST
[#38]
We call that the middle lane around here when there are three of them and with the heavy traffic and the two to three back to two on roads around here you are going to wind up having to exit if you hang in the right lane when you don't want/need to.
I know you are from out of town so fuck you for not knowing our particular roads and trying to get somewhere without fucking getting pushed off in a direction you didn't want to go. Watch out folks there are roads that exit to the left in the US too so get stuck in that lane going as fast as you can. We are getting a diverging diamond at one interstate exit before the end of the month. It is based on lanes entering from two directions at the same time and then merging into one lane in a very short distance to enter a busy interstate. It is going to be a comedy and a boom time for the wrecker businesses around here. |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 8:53:25 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope, but if you're not actively passing someone you stay the fuck out of it. It should be common sense Who are you passing if you’re going the speed limit, and so is everyone else? Yeah this one bothers the 75+ drivers. I laugh because there are two or three other lanes you can break the law in. |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 8:59:54 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who are you passing if you’re going the speed limit, and so is everyone else? Yeah this one bothers the 75+ drivers. I laugh because there are two or three other lanes you can break the law in. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Nope, but if you're not actively passing someone you stay the fuck out of it. It should be common sense Who are you passing if you’re going the speed limit, and so is everyone else? Yeah this one bothers the 75+ drivers. I laugh because there are two or three other lanes you can break the law in. I see we have another hall monitor here. The discussion has nothing to do with speed limits. It is about how to safely improve the flow of traffic for all. |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 9:06:47 AM EST
[#41]
I drive I5 in WA regularly border to border. Normally at 10-15 over, although I've slown down with age. I've also driven in other states. Stay out of the hammer lane. Unless you're passing. It's pretty simple. When you pass, pass everyone and get back over. It's a great rule of thumb everywhere.
Frankly, left lane campers don't bother me as much as jackwagons with trailers in the hammer lane, and people who ride your bumper at 30+ over as you're passing traffic. Both are unsafe. I've been stopped 3 times in 40+ years of interstate driving. All for speed. All warnings, no tickets. Amazing what a clean record and a capable car can do for you. |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 9:12:25 AM EST
[#42]
Center lane. Ya'll are tards.
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Posted: 1/1/2024 9:12:41 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My wife lived in TN for a few years. This was a long time ago. On interstates in rural areas traffic in TN would mysteriously slow down, like people were looking at an accident, but there was nothing there. Then they'd all speed up again I've noticed over the years, that a lot of people who drive 5-10 over in the left lane suddenly go into a panic when they come upon a tractor trailer in the next lane right, then slow down and pace the TT, driving right next to the trailer wheels, until finally after a few minutes, their brain unlocks, and they move past. I tell my wife, it would be karma if a tractor or trailer tire blew while they were being paced, but it never happens. Jay |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 9:14:55 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who are you passing if you’re going the speed limit, and so is everyone else? Yeah this one bothers the 75+ drivers. I laugh because there are two or three other lanes you can break the law in. It’s not about speed limits Some highways don’t have speed limits or even have minimum speed limits You pass in the left lane, then you get back in the middle or right lane. These are rules of the road that make driving safer for everyone and take into account not every vehicle is going the same speed |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 9:18:58 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, it has a restriction of to be used for passing only. Sort of like that strip through the middle of town is for turning, you don't just drive in it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So does the left lane have a higher speed limit than the right lane? Yep its for PASSING cars in the right lane, except some people seem to think its their lane exclusively because they are doing 25 over the speed limit and once you do enter that lane to legitimately pass someone its then their duty to ride your bumper until you get the fuck out of their lane. And if you don't move over after passing someone as soon as you get 6" past the car you are passing then its ok to start flashing their high beams to tell you to get out of their lane. Assholes.. |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 9:24:55 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've noticed over the years, that as lot of people who drive 5-10 over in the left lane suddenly go into a panic when they come upon a tractor trailer in the next lane right, then slow down and pace the TT, driving right next to the trailer wheels, until finally after a few minutes, their brain unlocks, and they move past. I tell my wife, it would be karma if a tractor or trailer tire blew while they were being paced, but it never happens. Jay I saw that happen in WA on I5. Fortunately, I was far enough back, light traffic and it was not in metro Seattle. No accident resulted, but I guarantee that the driver and passengers needed a change of underwear. |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 9:28:24 AM EST
[#47]
I met Sheriff Lamb a few years back.
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Posted: 1/1/2024 9:33:24 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When Mark sees these Arfcom GD posts about him or PCSO it takes all his self discipline not to respond in the thread. He got a challenge coin from me when he did his book signing at Hoover Tactical a few years back. My bosses wife wanted to meet him. She has a crush on him. So I escorted her to the event. |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 9:39:44 AM EST
[#49]
Lots of commenters here have the notion that they are somehow special enough to be the traffic karen when in the left lane.
Sad really. Just stick to riding the short bus instead. |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 10:29:59 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Concur. I like having someone going 10-15 over ahead of me so I can go 9 over (in the right or middle lane, of course) and not worry about getting stopped. I agree. I've always thought that if I'm passing damn near everything on the road but I'm still getting passed every now and then, then I'm doing it right.  Attached File |
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