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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:44:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, we have had a few larger bombers here over the years, B-24/B29 and 5 minutes after they're on the ramp shut down, there's oil on the concrete. Pretty normal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yep, if a big radial ain't leaking oil it probably has none in it. Yep, we have had a few larger bombers here over the years, B-24/B29 and 5 minutes after they're on the ramp shut down, there's oil on the concrete. Pretty normal. Oil trays are your friend. 
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:46:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I see a lot of comments about the P-63 pilot being at fault but could the B-17 have been off course? Yes, that's still a possibility. Not enough information to know yet. That being said, it is still everyone's responsibility to clear their flight path, even if another aircraft isn't where they're supposed to be. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:46:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:47:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:47:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is a mis-set altimeter a possibility? Glad you're here and talking. Yes, that's possible. I'm not certain how the airspace was divided down there today, so I don't know if it was just geographic deconfliction, altitude deconfliction, or a combination of both. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:47:12 PM EDT
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Perhaps it's just perspective, but in the one video the P-63 seems about at the same altitude as the fighter banking left in front of it. Just went too wide?
The crew of the biplane on the runway looks to have been too close for comfort. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:48:15 PM EDT
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Goddammit.
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:48:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Auto mechanic? 21+years of Military aircraft maintenance plus 14 years as an Aircrewman. 45+ years in aviation related fields. Now it's PAINFULLY OBVIOUS you know jack shit about aircraft, aircraft mechanics or have a sense of humor. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:49:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:50:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:50:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some good news then, in an event with very little. Thank you for letting all of us know you weren't involved. Thanks. I've been out work flying all day, so I'm just now getting the opportunity to look at social media and do my nightly ARFCOM crawl. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:51:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oil trays are your friend. When i was a kid i remember a PT-17 out at falcon with what seemed like half a gallon constantly sitting in the tray under it.
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:51:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Learn to read and comprehend. That's not what he said. He called me an "auto mechanic". I am far from an "auto mechanic". Thanks, auto mechanic. So I probably noticed the leaks more than most people there. Just stuck out to me. Pretty sure he was saying that he is an auto mechanic. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:52:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:53:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you bother to read my post concerning him? Go back and read it. He was saying he was an auto mechanic, he wasn't calling you one . Lighten up Francis |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:53:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Learn to read and comprehend. That's not what he said. He called me an "auto mechanic". I am far from an "auto mechanic". Thanks, auto mechanic. So I probably noticed the leaks more than most people there. Just stuck out to me. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:54:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Learn to read and comprehend. That's not what he said. He called me an "auto mechanic". I am far from an "auto mechanic". Thanks, auto mechanic. So I probably noticed the leaks more than most people there. Just stuck out to me. I think he meant thanks, I’m an auto mechanic… At least that’s how I read it. He just didn’t structure his sentence well. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:56:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySomeone tell me thats not a red helmet to the left of the traffic cone? |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:57:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: These incidents with warbirds that are either not maintained correctly or piloted into the ground are far too common to ignore the trend. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Log out and don’t log back in These incidents with warbirds that are either not maintained correctly or piloted into the ground are far too common to ignore the trend. They never crashed when they were brand new piloted by 24 year olds; flying is dangerous, gravity never rests. During WW2 40K+ aircraft were lost along with 25K+ aircrew…….in accidents. Stats are from Real clear history. RIP aircrew
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:57:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:58:03 PM EDT
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Oh damn.
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:58:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just rode in Sentimental Journey a few months ago. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/20220513_141949_jpg-2597657.JPG I was in one once. For those who never have, here is the WWII scenario. It is a large soup can. No more protection than that. Just about anything could go right through it. Take you up to 30,000 feet where it is colder than you have ever been, with an open window and a hurricane wind. Then there are a whole bunch of other planes flying around shooting at you, trying their best to kill you. Nope. Nope. Nope. Ain't a lot of people with the balls for that. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:58:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Learn to read and comprehend. That's not what he said. He called me an "auto mechanic". I am far from an "auto mechanic". Thanks, auto mechanic. So I probably noticed the leaks more than most people there. Just stuck out to me. LOL, so much irony. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:59:06 PM EDT
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Texas Raiders was based very close to me in Conroe. I am thankful I had the privilege to crawl all through her at an open house there a few years ago. I am deeply saddened by the news and mourn for her, her crew, and any possible passengers. Ironically, I put on a Texas Raiders t-shirt this morning before anything happened.
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:59:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Am I supposed to know he's an auto mechanic? If he were speaking to me face to face and he answered my question with "Thanks, auto mechanic." I would think he's calling me an auto mechanic as an insult. Had he said "I am an auto mechanic, that's what I do for a living" I would have still answered him in the same way. You literally quoted the sentence that, if you would read it with the comprehension you want everyone else to use, stated that HE is an auto mechanic. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:59:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, he was not one of the three pilots involved. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Does anyone know if Ken R. was in either craft? He's a pilot for the Gulf Coast Wing where the B17 is based out of No, he was not one of the three pilots involved. Thank you. Good dude. Flew with him in the SNJ-5 last year. Prayers for the other pilots and their family
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:00:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was in one once. For those who never have, here is the WWII scenario. It is a large soup can. No more protection than that. Just about anything could go right through it. Take you up to 30,000 feet where it is colder than you have ever been, with an open window and a hurricane wind. Then there are a whole bunch of other planes flying around shooting at you, trying their best to kill you. Nope. Nope. Nope. Ain't a lot of people with the balls for that. You know shits fucked up when the infantry have better odds of survival. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:00:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:01:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:01:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Learn to read and comprehend. That's not what he said. He called me an "auto mechanic". I am far from an "auto mechanic". Thanks, auto mechanic. So I probably noticed the leaks more than most people there. Just stuck out to me. Have a couple beers and calm down bro. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:02:14 PM EDT
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so glad this thread is getting derailed from one individual.
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:02:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Auto mechanic? 21+years of Military aircraft maintenance plus 14 years as an Aircrewman. 45+ years in aviation related fields. Now it's PAINFULLY OBVIOUS you know jack shit about aircraft, aircraft mechanics or have a sense of humor. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Thanks, auto mechanic. So I probably noticed the leaks more than most people there. Just stuck out to me. Auto mechanic? 21+years of Military aircraft maintenance plus 14 years as an Aircrewman. 45+ years in aviation related fields. Now it's PAINFULLY OBVIOUS you know jack shit about aircraft, aircraft mechanics or have a sense of humor. What a tool bag |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:02:58 PM EDT
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Quoted: A new angle has surfaced.
Looks like a Stearman maybe that's taxiing... lucky to be alive from the looks of it. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:03:13 PM EDT
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No loss if page 11 is deleted
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:03:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Learn to read and comprehend. That's not what he said. He called me an "auto mechanic". I am far from an "auto mechanic". Thanks, auto mechanic. So I probably noticed the leaks more than most people there. Just stuck out to me. I understood him. He was referring to his own profession, and why he would notice leaking mechanical fluids more than the lay public. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:03:51 PM EDT
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Could yall just fucking stop already. Holy Shit.
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:03:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:04:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What a tool bag Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Thanks, auto mechanic. So I probably noticed the leaks more than most people there. Just stuck out to me. Auto mechanic? 21+years of Military aircraft maintenance plus 14 years as an Aircrewman. 45+ years in aviation related fields. Now it's PAINFULLY OBVIOUS you know jack shit about aircraft, aircraft mechanics or have a sense of humor. What a tool bag He is the Littlepony of aircraft! |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:04:41 PM EDT
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Some guys were asking offline, I believe that Russell Royce was the airboss at the show today.
That's the son of the more famous air boss Ralph Royce. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:05:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Auto mechanic? 21+years of Military aircraft maintenance plus 14 years as an Aircrewman. 45+ years in aviation related fields. Now it's PAINFULLY OBVIOUS you know jack shit about aircraft, aircraft mechanics or have a sense of humor. Pops worked on the F4 fantom in the Marines. Had a ton of great stories. Just never heard of leaking fluid being normal, and yes I know jack shit myself about aircraft maintenance. Learn something new everyday. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:06:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: @mudeagle You ok bro? Yep, not me. I was supposed to be flying the B-24 today but traded out for a work trip...so I'm not in Dallas. Sad day. I'm so glad you're ok. So glad to see it. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:06:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Auto mechanic? 21+years of Military aircraft maintenance plus 14 years as an Aircrewman. 45+ years in aviation related fields. Now it's PAINFULLY OBVIOUS you know jack shit about aircraft, aircraft mechanics or have a sense of humor. He said he’s an auto mechanic and spotting leaks are part if the job. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:07:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You missed the part where he said "Thanks, auto mechanic. So I probably noticed the leaks more than most people there. Just stuck out to me." He made such a big deal about those oil leaks the last time around and they had shit to do with that mishap. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Holy shit he just said that he noticed a few leaks, chill the fuck out hero. You missed the part where he said "Thanks, auto mechanic. So I probably noticed the leaks more than most people there. Just stuck out to me." He made such a big deal about those oil leaks the last time around and they had shit to do with that mishap. Bro I was literally thanking you for the information since I don't work on aircraft, just cars. Wow take it easy dude |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:07:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No he didn't. I am not from the bizzaro world. If he wanted to convey the fact that he's an auto mechanic then he should have said so along the lines of "I am an auto mechanic". English, it's a motherfucker. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You literally quoted the sentence that, if you would read it with the comprehension you want everyone else to use, stated that HE is an auto mechanic. No he didn't. I am not from the bizzaro world. If he wanted to convey the fact that he's an auto mechanic then he should have said so along the lines of "I am an auto mechanic". English, it's a motherfucker. Can we stop now and let the thread get back on track? Please. You are overreacting a bit. 
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:10:09 PM EDT
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Holey moley. that's bad when you can't see a big ol' bomber. fuck...
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:13:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:14:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:15:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:16:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They never crashed when they were brand new piloted by 24 year olds; flying is dangerous, gravity never rests. During WW2 40K+ aircraft were lost along with 25K+ aircrew…….in accidents. Stats are from Real clear history. RIP aircrew Wartime training was performed in weather and conditions completely unsuitable for pleasure or airshow flying, average pilot experience was far lower during wartime than for airshow pilots today, and most importantly, the liability environment is sufficiently different that it may as well be on another planet. Though it will be very sad---I love and have loved going to airshows, both here in the Houston area, and in Salinas growing up---Nazis are not going to overrun Europe if we stop having them. Unlike pilot training at the time. That six people died at this show is a tragedy. I am grateful it wasn't far worse, but from a couple of the videos, it doesn't look like much temporally kept this from involving a lot more people. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 11:17:29 PM EDT
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