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Quoted: It must be an upscale tattoo place. Most regular tattoo shops could get that shit solved for a deal on a half sleeve. View Quote Attached File |
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Quoted: Kyle Rittenhouse turned himself in after admitting to committing a crime and shooting several people in another state, what were officers supposed to do? Are you saying he shouldn't stand trial? View Quote Kyle Rittenhouse isn't going to stand trial - he's going to a Kangaroo Court. Even before all this BLM/ANTIFA crap, I've been there and done that where the DA stacks on a bunch of charges to force a party to settle and/or stick the knife in harder because it is a case that will help the DA's career. I've also been there and done that where a Judge had discretion to allow/ban certain evidence and abused of that discretion to steer the case in a certain direction. Again, the "justice" system is a joke. No doubt Rittenhouse shot some people - but the DA and the "justice system" knows how they could spin those same circumstances into "self-defense" vs. "criminal acts" - but sadly this is a case where the current political climate and laziness of a DA is gonna swing it into the side of "criminal act". And it is fucking sad that people have to hire a lawyer to preemptively protect themselves from overzealous LEOs and DAs.... Here in metro ATL, like a year ago, a Middle Eastern chick came out on the news as LEOs were looking for her on charges of "hit and run" and "fleeing the scene" of a crime - where looking at the video - two Black women were beating on her car, she backed out and ran over/killed one of them trying to get away. The Middle Eastern chick turned herself in AFTER SEEKING A LAWYER - where, the updated news report said that the charges were being reconsidered at that point. So imagine if this Middle Eastern chick stayed there at the crime scene (like an idiot) and relied upon the overworked LEOs and lazy/overzealous DA to look out for her best interests and properly interpret what happened???? So damn right Rittenhouse turned himself in AFTER seeking some help/counsel - because he wasn't evading, he knew he was coming in for a slaughter and had to protect/prepare himself before stepping forward. |
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Good for you OP!
FUCK ALL THE BITCH-ASS HATERS UP IN HERE. Keyboard cowards, the lot of you. |
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Sometimes the right thing to do isn't the easiest thing to do.
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The OP did what he had to. He had no choice. The media protects criminals. If he had defended himself, he'd be painted as a racist and would be excoriated by a racist "justice" system. I'd just start considering a move. I'm assuming the BLM is near Detroit. From my interactions online, that city seems to harbor the most racist, victim mentality people in the country.
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Quoted: Kyle Rittenhouse stood up. The police happily arrested him for it, and the ‘justice’ system is busy trying to put him in jail for the rest of his life. Tough talk on the Internet is easy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: These AH just think they can control everyone, good for you to stand up to these terrorist. They DID control him. He DID NOT stand up to them. Kyle Rittenhouse stood up. The police happily arrested him for it, and the ‘justice’ system is busy trying to put him in jail for the rest of his life. Tough talk on the Internet is easy. That has the dumbest comparison ever written. I tell people go about their life everyday, policy is policy. I do it for a living. |
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Quoted: Shit like what happened to the OP is a prime example why Folks need to work with others in their Communities to create a “Neighborhood Watch” Shall we call it.... Standing alone is a problem. But. Hitting the radio and calling in local reinforcements would be a game changer Think Rooftop Koreans securing their neighborhoods stores etc to protect their livelihood. Sucks but this is the way.... View Quote This is what needs to be done. However, any action like this is painted as a white racist group by the media. The left controls the narrative. The media in this country needs to be abolished. |
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Quoted: Good for you OP! FUCK ALL THE BITCH-ASS HATERS UP IN HERE. Keyboard cowards, the lot of you. View Quote No, not really. I've both talked that talk and walked that walk, and I'm saying the OP cucked out. The definition of being a principled person is doing the right thing even when/if it hurts you. Edit to add: there is a restaurant in my town that was targeted by BLM last summer over a silly tweet. They threatened to burn the building to the ground. So the owner notified the local militia, which came and surrounded the building as it was being attacked by an angry mob that had overrun our police in a bad way. Our cops were woefully underprepared for what transpired that night. A few windows were broken as a result, vs. the building the being burned down. The business is now more successful than ever (obviously the event created quite a stir in the community), although the percentage of clientele that lean right has likely greatly increased. No one from the militia was arrested, nor was the owner charged with anything. Happy ending I guess, but that's not what's important. What's important is that the owner of the restaurant didn't bitch out--the Twitter comment was downright tame, and wasn't racist in the least--and stood up to the bullies and oppressors from BLM. Everyone else needs to do the same, or we will only see this get worse, and exponentially so. |
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the tattoo shop business model since 2000 has been catering to every walk of life and for a price have been slinging pro and anti statements for money. These are the types of clients one is going to eventually end up with just like many gun stores happily selling to marxists, you invite them to your lobby you get the whole enchilada.
from a business perspective in this case it would have been easier to give the "customer" his 50 bucks back. a smashed window will probably just be paid out of petty cash - 1000 bucks plus time time lost on this clown has already cost the shop about a grand+ between thinking about it and talking about it. every small business owner deals with an extortionist or exploiter at some level at some point and one has to figure out the quickest easiest way to have it not affect ones business. never negotiate but leave the enemy holes they can slither out of |
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Quoted: Quoted: Then, like others said, LEOs "DO" have a level of discretion where if the roles were flipped (i.e. a White guy threatening a Black guy), they would have acted differently. Prove it... Oh, and my lengthy personal story wasn't enough to persuade you as to how the LEOs used their discretion against me when I called them out on my racist White neighbors (who not only threatened damage to my home and been doing illegal acts against me for over 10 years now)? Keep up attitudes like that and don't be surprised when LEOs get their asses handled to them by the Commies, no one will longer stand up to "Back the Blue". |
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Quoted: No, not really. I've both talked that talk and walked that walk, and I'm saying the OP cucked out. The definition of being a principled person is doing the right thing even when/if it hurts you. Edit to add: there is a restaurant in my town that was targeted by BLM last summer over a silly tweet. They threatened to burn the building to the ground. So the owner notified the local militia, which came and surrounded the building as it was being attacked by an angry mob that had overrun our police in a bad way. Our cops were woefully underprepared for what transpired that night. A few windows were broken as a result, vs. the building the being burned down. The business is now more successful than ever (obviously the event created quite a stir in the community), although the percentage of clientele that lean right has likely greatly increased. No one from the militia was arrested, nor was the owner charged with anything. Happy ending I guess, but that's not what's important. What's important is that the owner of the restaurant didn't bitch out--the Twitter comment was downright tame, and wasn't racist in the least--and stood up to the bullies and oppressors from BLM. Everyone else needs to do the same, or we will only see this get worse, and exponentially so. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Good for you OP! FUCK ALL THE BITCH-ASS HATERS UP IN HERE. Keyboard cowards, the lot of you. No, not really. I've both talked that talk and walked that walk, and I'm saying the OP cucked out. The definition of being a principled person is doing the right thing even when/if it hurts you. Edit to add: there is a restaurant in my town that was targeted by BLM last summer over a silly tweet. They threatened to burn the building to the ground. So the owner notified the local militia, which came and surrounded the building as it was being attacked by an angry mob that had overrun our police in a bad way. Our cops were woefully underprepared for what transpired that night. A few windows were broken as a result, vs. the building the being burned down. The business is now more successful than ever (obviously the event created quite a stir in the community), although the percentage of clientele that lean right has likely greatly increased. No one from the militia was arrested, nor was the owner charged with anything. Happy ending I guess, but that's not what's important. What's important is that the owner of the restaurant didn't bitch out--the Twitter comment was downright tame, and wasn't racist in the least--and stood up to the bullies and oppressors from BLM. Everyone else needs to do the same, or we will only see this get worse, and exponentially so. You had local LE on your side. OP does not. Apples, oranges. Detroit or urban Michigan is not old Virginia. |
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Quoted: Kyle Rittenhouse turned himself in after admitting to committing a crime and shooting several people in another state, what were officers supposed to do? Are you saying he shouldn't stand trial? View Quote What crime did he admit to, defending himself after attempts at running away from threats failed? |
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Quoted: Sounds like you better make sure your insurance covers arson and vandalism. View Quote Certainly, make sure your insurance covers arson. Many times insurance does not cover anything caused by civil unrest, so if BLM starts a protest out front, then burns your place, the insurance may not cover it. |
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Quoted: This is what needs to be done. However, any action like this is painted as a white racist group by the media. The left controls the narrative. The media in this country needs to be abolished. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Shit like what happened to the OP is a prime example why Folks need to work with others in their Communities to create a “Neighborhood Watch” Shall we call it.... Standing alone is a problem. But. Hitting the radio and calling in local reinforcements would be a game changer Think Rooftop Koreans securing their neighborhoods stores etc to protect their livelihood. Sucks but this is the way.... This is what needs to be done. However, any action like this is painted as a white racist group by the media. The left controls the narrative. The media in this country needs to be abolished. True about the narrative. But at this point we might as well accept being painted as whatever and just make it happen regardless We are seeing things snowball the wrong direction nowadays and will continue to get worse unless communities band together to take care of their neighbors like back in the old days |
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I can honestly say, I don't know what I would do if I were in the same situation. There are lots of factors to take into consideration. I do know that you cannot appease a tyrant. I also know from experience that to stop a bully, you have to make him know that his BS will result in a negative sum game.. BLM is forcing the issue into this corner. It's a sad result of a screwed up world.
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Quoted: You had local LE on your side. OP does not. Apples, oranges. Detroit or urban Michigan is not old Virginia. View Quote False. The LE were indifferent. They neither helped nor hindered (they couldn’t have done either had they wanted to). The police chief is in the pocket of our extreme leftist city council, and from what I hear about half of the force approved of the militia’s actions and half disapproved. Either way, it doesn’t matter. You don’t do the right thing because you get a cookie, or refrain from getting slapped. You do it because it’s the right thing, period. |
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Never defend an indefensible position. Set your shit on fire and cash out of the A/O with the insurance money. |
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Quoted: Kyle Rittenhouse isn't going to stand trial - he's going to a Kangaroo Court. Even before all this BLM/ANTIFA crap, I've been there and done that where the DA stacks on a bunch of charges to force a party to settle and/or stick the knife in harder because it is a case that will help the DA's career. I've also been there and done that where a Judge had discretion to allow/ban certain evidence and abused of that discretion to steer the case in a certain direction. Again, the "justice" system is a joke. No doubt Rittenhouse shot some people - but the DA and the "justice system" knows how they could spin those same circumstances into "self-defense" vs. "criminal acts" - but sadly this is a case where the current political climate and laziness of a DA is gonna swing it into the side of "criminal act". And it is fucking sad that people have to hire a lawyer to preemptively protect themselves from overzealous LEOs and DAs.... Here in metro ATL, like a year ago, a Middle Eastern chick came out on the news as LEOs were looking for her on charges of "hit and run" and "fleeing the scene" of a crime - where looking at the video - two Black women were beating on her car, she backed out and ran over/killed one of them trying to get away. The Middle Eastern chick turned herself in AFTER SEEKING A LAWYER - where, the updated news report said that the charges were being reconsidered at that point. So imagine if this Middle Eastern chick stayed there at the crime scene (like an idiot) and relied upon the overworked LEOs and lazy/overzealous DA to look out for her best interests and properly interpret what happened???? So damn right Rittenhouse turned himself in AFTER seeking some help/counsel - because he wasn't evading, he knew he was coming in for a slaughter and had to protect/prepare himself before stepping forward. View Quote You failed to answer either of the questions I asked. |
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Dickbutt can be posted but I get a warning for calling the OP a poosy as a joke?
Membership up in a few weeks, will not be renewing. |
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Quoted: No, not really. I've both talked that talk and walked that walk, and I'm saying the OP cucked out. The definition of being a principled person is doing the right thing even when/if it hurts you. Edit to add: there is a restaurant in my town that was targeted by BLM last summer over a silly tweet. They threatened to burn the building to the ground. So the owner notified the local militia, which came and surrounded the building as it was being attacked by an angry mob that had overrun our police in a bad way. Our cops were woefully underprepared for what transpired that night. A few windows were broken as a result, vs. the building the being burned down. The business is now more successful than ever (obviously the event created quite a stir in the community), although the percentage of clientele that lean right has likely greatly increased. No one from the militia was arrested, nor was the owner charged with anything. Happy ending I guess, but that's not what's important. What's important is that the owner of the restaurant didn't bitch out--the Twitter comment was downright tame, and wasn't racist in the least--and stood up to the bullies and oppressors from BLM. Everyone else needs to do the same, or we will only see this get worse, and exponentially so. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Good for you OP! FUCK ALL THE BITCH-ASS HATERS UP IN HERE. Keyboard cowards, the lot of you. No, not really. I've both talked that talk and walked that walk, and I'm saying the OP cucked out. The definition of being a principled person is doing the right thing even when/if it hurts you. Edit to add: there is a restaurant in my town that was targeted by BLM last summer over a silly tweet. They threatened to burn the building to the ground. So the owner notified the local militia, which came and surrounded the building as it was being attacked by an angry mob that had overrun our police in a bad way. Our cops were woefully underprepared for what transpired that night. A few windows were broken as a result, vs. the building the being burned down. The business is now more successful than ever (obviously the event created quite a stir in the community), although the percentage of clientele that lean right has likely greatly increased. No one from the militia was arrested, nor was the owner charged with anything. Happy ending I guess, but that's not what's important. What's important is that the owner of the restaurant didn't bitch out--the Twitter comment was downright tame, and wasn't racist in the least--and stood up to the bullies and oppressors from BLM. Everyone else needs to do the same, or we will only see this get worse, and exponentially so. Until someone has to shoot. ...then it gets complicated |
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Quoted: This is what needs to be done. However, any action like this is painted as a white racist group by the media. The left controls the narrative. The media in this country needs to be abolished. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Shit like what happened to the OP is a prime example why Folks need to work with others in their Communities to create a “Neighborhood Watch” Shall we call it.... Standing alone is a problem. But. Hitting the radio and calling in local reinforcements would be a game changer Think Rooftop Koreans securing their neighborhoods stores etc to protect their livelihood. Sucks but this is the way.... This is what needs to be done. However, any action like this is painted as a white racist group by the media. The left controls the narrative. The media in this country needs to be abolished. Yes we need a neighborhood watch or call it a militia. The left has clearly militarized and we need to be ready to act. We will win if we do. We have the power to bring the truth to light just as much as leftist media |
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Quoted: Kyle Rittenhouse turned himself in after admitting to committing a crime and shooting several people in another state, what were officers supposed to do? Are you saying he shouldn't stand trial? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Kyle Rittenhouse stood up. The police happily arrested him for it, and the ‘justice’ system is busy trying to put him in jail for the rest of his life. Tough talk on the Internet is easy. Kyle Rittenhouse turned himself in after admitting to committing a crime and shooting several people in another state, what were officers supposed to do? Are you saying he shouldn't stand trial? He approached the police after a defensive shooting. He never admitted to committing a crime, comrade. His mistake was trusting the system after defending himself. From pension-pursuing police to prosecutors trying to make a name for themselves, the ‘justice’ system is often the enemy of law abiding citizens. |
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Quoted: A person allegedly told the OP in a phone call he was going to shoot up his business. That's probably enough for a threatening phone call report with an unknown suspect. It's not probable cause to arrest any specific person. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Field interrogation report, trespass warning....hell how about just a general information report. Next question As long as it's being framed within "legal" Interrogation for what crime? You do know this falls under the auspice of a civil matter, don't you? No crime was alleged by either party at the first visit, and the police do not "trespass", the owner/manager of the property does. If the police did not trespass when they were there the first time, it's because the owner/manager didn't want it. Also, where was it stated a report was/was not taken? Based on the story it seems as if the OP just wanted him gone, the police came, and he left. And since no crime was alleged, the police legally could not demand ID. So yes legal framing is important. In fact, my guess is you would be the first to cry about legality if this was a gun owner not suspected of committing a crime yet ID was being demanded. As to the call and supposed verbal threat after police left, it cannot be proven and he never showed so there really isn't anything that can be done. People make threats all the time, and people lie about being threatened all the time, so unless there is something that can be corroborated and/or verified by police. What would your position be if in this same scenario, the customer called police and said the owner threatened to get a noose and hang him because he was a _______. Would you cry if police didn't arrest the owner? Would you cry if police arrested the owner? All based on an unverifiable claim made by one individual. If a white man called a black business over an issue with refunding a deposit for work not performed, and told that business he was going to shoot and kill everyone that worked there - do you think the police would think that "there really isn't anything that can be done"? A person allegedly told the OP in a phone call he was going to shoot up his business. That's probably enough for a threatening phone call report with an unknown suspect. It's not probable cause to arrest any specific person. It should have at the very least triggered an investigation. They presumably have a phone number to trace thru caller ID. I'm pro-law enforcement but this shit needs to come to an abrupt halt. |
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Quoted: He approached the police after a defensive shooting. He never admitted to committing a crime, comrade. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: He approached the police after a defensive shooting. He never admitted to committing a crime, comrade. Well yes actually he did when he turned himself in to police in the next state, admitted he was under 18 and in possession of a firearm, genius. His mistake was trusting the system At what point did he state that he "trusted the system"? Do you have a link to that quote? Are you simply making that up? Also, are you saying he should have remained in hiding? Oh and do tell... what is your basis for the "comrade" assertion? Are you simply that intellectually weak minded? Is it because you're just insecure? All of the above? Then again, since you failed to answer either of my previous questions, so I doubt you'll answer this one. But I'll give you a chance to save face and show your great intellect by answering all of them... |
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Quoted: Lots of gangsters in here. 0% of those are service industry business owners. Black, white, whatever you have to concede to the customer in customer service. This is just the BLM episode of that show. Tough pill to swallow but are you going to sacrifice your life’s work for this particular asshole? Maybe, but likely no. View Quote I don't think anybody is disputing that, at least I'm not. What I think is a mistake is basically telling the guy to bring it on, and when the guy brought it on, OP bent the knee. He should know better being in the hood that he just lost whatever respect he might have built. Should have just informed the guy of the rules,made an exception and sent him on his way instead of challenging him. |
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Quoted: So you are a cop basically standing on the guys throat with the power of the state behind you asking him what he is going to do about it lol View Quote Where did I say I was a cop? And I asked him a simple, basic question after agreeing with his assertion about many DA's being pure crap. But by all means please feel free to provide the basis for your assertions... lol |
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Quoted: Well yes actually he did when he turned himself in to police in the next state, admitted he was under 18 and in possession of a firearm, genius. At what point did he state that he "trusted the system"? Do you have a link to that quote? Are you simply making that up? Also, are you saying he should have remained in hiding? Oh and do tell... what is your basis for the "comrade" assertion? Are you simply that intellectually weak minded? Is it because you're just insecure? All of the above? Then again, since you failed to answer either of my previous questions, so I doubt you'll answer this one. But I'll give you a chance to save face and show your great intellect by answering all of them... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: He approached the police after a defensive shooting. He never admitted to committing a crime, comrade. Well yes actually he did when he turned himself in to police in the next state, admitted he was under 18 and in possession of a firearm, genius. His mistake was trusting the system At what point did he state that he "trusted the system"? Do you have a link to that quote? Are you simply making that up? Also, are you saying he should have remained in hiding? Oh and do tell... what is your basis for the "comrade" assertion? Are you simply that intellectually weak minded? Is it because you're just insecure? All of the above? Then again, since you failed to answer either of my previous questions, so I doubt you'll answer this one. But I'll give you a chance to save face and show your great intellect by answering all of them... You plainly didn’t watch the video, which clearly showed Kyle trying to get the polices attention, hands in the air, right after the shooting. Surely the actions of a guiltily man! A young man did the right thing, and is going on trial for it. Another man threatened to shoot up a business, and ehhhhh well what can the police possibly do about it? You’re the perfect example of why society is going down the shitter. |
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Here’s your deposit back - don’t ever return to my establishment as we will refuse service. Call into other nearby tattoo studios with name and number as a courtesy. Good day!
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The cops responded to a trespass and didn’t try to get his name even when you said he was trespassed from the property?
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Quoted: You plainly didn’t watch the video, which clearly showed Kyle trying to get the polices attention, hands in the air, right after the shooting. Surely the actions of a guiltily man! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: You plainly didn’t watch the video, which clearly showed Kyle trying to get the polices attention, hands in the air, right after the shooting. Surely the actions of a guiltily man! Where did I say a word about any of that? Or is deflection the best your big brain can come up with? If you actually had any intellectual credibility what so ever you would acknowledge the statement of the person I was responding to, and how my response related directly to it, while having NOTHING to do with your deflection. But I doubt you have the courage to do so given your response thus far. A young man did the right thing, and is going on trial for it. So are you saying he didn't violate Illinois state firearm law? You know... the very point I was making in response to the other poster... Another man threatened to shoot up a business, and ehhhhh well what can the police possibly do about it? Okay... show us all the big legal brain of yours and tell us what the officers could legally do about an unverifiable claim of a verbal threat, when the supposed victim wasn't even willing to trespass the person from his business. Be sure to cite the MI laws covering such a threat as well as the case precedent that supports your assertion. You’re the perfect example of why society is going down the shitter. What, because facts hurt your feels? |
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Quoted: The cops responded to a trespass and didn’t try to get his name even when you said he was trespassed from the property? View Quote The cops responded to a civil dispute. Further, police do not initially trespass someone in such an instance, the property owner/manager does. It is clear based on what was stated that the OP just wanted him off the property and did not request he be legally trespassed. |
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I won’t give you shit OP. I will say I wouldn’t have explained shit on that phone call.
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Quoted: The cops responded to a civil dispute. Further, police do not initially trespass someone in such an instance, the property owner/manager does. It is clear based on what was stated that the OP just wanted him off the property and did not request he be legally trespassed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The cops responded to a trespass and didn’t try to get his name even when you said he was trespassed from the property? The cops responded to a civil dispute. Further, police do not initially trespass someone in such an instance, the property owner/manager does. It is clear based on what was stated that the OP just wanted him off the property and did not request he be legally trespassed. If OP didn’t want dude trespassed he got what he deserved I guess.... Either go all in or bend to them. No squishy middle. |
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