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Link Posted: 1/10/2018 9:54:10 AM EDT
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I weep for the liberty of my country when I see at this early day of its successful experiment that corruption has been imputed to many members of the House of Representatives, and the rights of the people have been bartered for promises of office.
Andrew Jackson

All the rights secured to the citizens under the Constitution are worth nothing, and a mere bubble, except guaranteed to them by an independent and virtuous Judiciary.
Andrew Jackson

But you must remember, my fellow-citizens, that eternal vigilance by the people is the price of liberty, and that you must pay the price if you wish to secure the blessing.
Andrew Jackson

The Supreme Court has made its decision, now let them enforce it.
Andrew Jackson
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 9:56:21 AM EDT
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He can order President Trump to resign, that doesn’t mean it will happen. DACA is an illegal executive order and is unenforceable.
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How is DACA an illegal executive order?

Unless you mean it is an "illegal" executive order
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 9:56:52 AM EDT
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There is no non-extrajudicial solution to judicial activist judges. That time has come and passed. Right now, we're just falling more slowly than at any time in the last eight years but the pavement, it is still there and it is going to be hard and messy when we finally hit the ground... which will happen right after the next election cycle and the leftists truly start the downward spiral again, in all earnest. Not an optimist.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 9:59:36 AM EDT
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Tyrants in black robes.

Abolish the 9th. End DACA today and deport them all.

What now leftists?
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 9:59:43 AM EDT
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I have never seen anything like what they are trying to do to Trump.

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Ever live during a civil war?

Because you're about to.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 10:02:16 AM EDT
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Ever live during a civil war?

Because you're about to.
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That is the only solution to this. So it won't happen.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 10:02:22 AM EDT
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I have never seen anything like what they are trying to do to Trump.

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I read another "breaking" news article today saying that the FBI knew of possible collusion between the Trump team and Russia. I love how they somehow made it a fact that there was collusion but put the word possible in there to protect themselves.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 10:03:53 AM EDT
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9th circus....
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 10:26:02 AM EDT
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Now let him enforce it.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 10:42:16 AM EDT
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Trump should order the judge to get fucked.
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I would get the pay per view to see 6 Marines march into his courtroom, followed by a WWE-style gay porn actor, and see the look on the judge's face.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 10:44:49 AM EDT
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Seems like a violation of the separation of powers to me.  Next, will they order Congress to pass legislation?  This seems to be the same thing.
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Courts illegally legislating.  Same shit as making it a legal requirement to provide education to illegal alien children.  Where the fuck is THAT in the constitution?
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 10:58:26 AM EDT
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What happens if he just ignores the ruling by stating that the court has no authority for the ruling?
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 10:59:57 AM EDT
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Of course they did.

What's the downside to doing this for these fucking activist judges? Not a fucking thing.
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At some point the President is just going to take the Andrew Jackson approach and ignore the judge.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 11:04:48 AM EDT
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The judge will send the federal judicial police to put the president under custody.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 11:11:01 AM EDT
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The judge will send the federal judicial police to put the president under custody.
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What happens if he just ignores the ruling by stating that the court has no authority for the ruling?
The judge will send the federal judicial police to put the president under custody.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 11:11:53 AM EDT
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Good grief. The Constitution only addresses the Supreme Court and leaves lower courts up to Congress.

Please be informed  before  posting stupid shit.
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We need to change the constition and any judge overturned greater than 50% of the time is automatically impeached and removed from the bench.
Good grief. The Constitution only addresses the Supreme Court and leaves lower courts up to Congress.

Please be informed  before  posting stupid shit.
I don't want it as a law the liberals can change on a whim.  I intentionally chose the document that's difficult to change and requires the consent of the state's.  I want  Circuit judges and different federal appellate levels under the constitution with a level of performance that gets them thrown off if they don't meet it.  So good grief yourself.  
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 11:18:23 AM EDT
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So one pres can unilaterally do something, without fear of a rouge judge.....but another pres cannot undo that thing...?  This has to be a turning point in US history.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 11:25:50 AM EDT
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Allahu Disbar!  
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 11:28:05 AM EDT
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Illegal or not, it's just an EO.  Trump can remove an EO whenever he wants.
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He can order President Trump to resign, that doesn't mean it will happen. DACA is an illegal executive order and is unenforceable.
Illegal or not, it's just an EO.  Trump can remove an EO whenever he wants.
He should do this.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 11:30:09 AM EDT
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So the judge ordered the President to continue not enforcing the law?
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Progressive. Laws are more like suggestions. non-binding malleable suggestions...
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 11:31:59 AM EDT
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How many divisions does the cocksucking judge command?
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Go Stalin on that Trotskyite.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 11:35:14 AM EDT
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Lol. Just ignore it.
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The 9th is too big. they need to split it and create the 12th judicial district. Give them the coast line; the 12th gets the other 4 states.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 11:39:20 AM EDT
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Just another judge for Trump to fire.
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Lifetime appointment.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 11:41:25 AM EDT
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Ignore the ruling and dare the establishment to impeach. Fucking dare them.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 11:48:17 AM EDT
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So one pres can unilaterally do something, without fear of a rouge judge.....but another pres cannot undo that thing...?  This has to be a turning point in US history.
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US policy is all about the Feelz
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 11:48:19 AM EDT
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Seems like a simple fix.

If a POTUS can start something, why can't one end it?
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This.

And how does a federal judge think he have standing over the president revoking an EO?

This won't last. Might take a year, but all this shit will get slapped down.

He needs to start jacking with these federal districts. These guys think they're untouchable.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 12:04:09 PM EDT
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A federal judge has no authority to prevent a President from voiding a previous presidents executive order that violates US federal law.

Trump should just ignore it.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 12:05:26 PM EDT
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I believe the ruling is that the existing DACA people can't be touched while it is litigated BUT we don't have to take any new applications ....  just saying
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DAPA and DACA.

DAPA was ruled unlawful. Obama appealed. The Trump DOJ then dismissed the appeal for DAPA and rescinded the EO, then and for the same reasons DAPA was unlawful, rescinded DACA.

A suit was filed to reinstate DACA by none other than Janet Napolitano and the case was assigned to William Alsup, a liberal Clinton-appointed judge. As part of the case, Alsup sought "broad and intrusive" information and documents including executive privileged stuff. It eventually landed at the Supreme Court who unanimously rejected the order.

Now, Alsup has rejected the motion to dismiss by DOJ and issued a prelim injunction ordering the administration to maintain DACA and and renew work permits for DACA recipient.

It's absolute nonsense.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 12:57:41 PM EDT
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Bump...
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 1:07:09 PM EDT
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The enemy is inside the wire.
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QFT
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 1:12:15 PM EDT
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Autistic Screeching.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 1:13:50 PM EDT
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These eo’s affected real people and made them a current problem.  O really screwed up this country.
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Which was his intent.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 1:47:50 PM EDT
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Broken Arrow declared in CA.  Final protective fire authorized.  Danger close.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 1:50:22 PM EDT
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Good grief. The Constitution only addresses the Supreme Court and leaves lower courts up to Congress.

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We need to change the constition and any judge overturned greater than 50% of the time is automatically impeached and removed from the bench.
Good grief. The Constitution only addresses the Supreme Court and leaves lower courts up to Congress.

Please be informed  before  posting stupid shit.
So what he posted was in fact the proper way to go about it. AMEND THE CONSTITUTION.  it can, and has been done you know.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 1:53:44 PM EDT
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Trump needs to go on national TV and state that he alone is in charge of immigration  consistent with Congressional Constitutional laws.  The judge is acting outside his authority and can pound sand.
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Incorrect. Immigration policy is a plenary power of Congress. They write immigration law. Enforcement is the President’s plenary power. In this case, the judge is out of his lane by trying to force the president NOT to enforce the existing law.

The only plenary power of the judiciary is determining whether the laws congress has written comport with the constitution.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 2:04:58 PM EDT
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DACA had an expiration date and now some activist says that means nothing.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 2:15:06 PM EDT
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You are watching a coup via bureaucracy by the left.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 2:37:35 PM EDT
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You are watching an attempted coup via bureaucracy by the left.
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Enhanced.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 2:49:14 PM EDT
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Broken Arrow declared in CA.  Final protective fire authorized.  Danger close.
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Do you have a newsletter?
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 8:46:12 PM EDT
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DAPA and DACA.

DAPA was ruled unlawful. Obama appealed. The Trump DOJ then dismissed the appeal for DAPA and rescinded the EO, then and for the same reasons DAPA was unlawful, rescinded DACA.

A suit was filed to reinstate DACA by none other than Janet Napolitano and the case was assigned to William Alsup, a liberal Clinton-appointed judge. As part of the case, Alsup sought "broad and intrusive" information and documents including executive privileged stuff. It eventually landed at the Supreme Court who unanimously rejected the order.

Now, Alsup has rejected the motion to dismiss by DOJ and issued a prelim injunction ordering the administration to maintain DACA and and renew work permits for DACA recipient.

It's absolute nonsense.
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I believe the ruling is that the existing DACA people can't be touched while it is litigated BUT we don't have to take any new applications ....  just saying
DAPA and DACA.

DAPA was ruled unlawful. Obama appealed. The Trump DOJ then dismissed the appeal for DAPA and rescinded the EO, then and for the same reasons DAPA was unlawful, rescinded DACA.

A suit was filed to reinstate DACA by none other than Janet Napolitano and the case was assigned to William Alsup, a liberal Clinton-appointed judge. As part of the case, Alsup sought "broad and intrusive" information and documents including executive privileged stuff. It eventually landed at the Supreme Court who unanimously rejected the order.

Now, Alsup has rejected the motion to dismiss by DOJ and issued a prelim injunction ordering the administration to maintain DACA and and renew work permits for DACA recipient.

It's absolute nonsense.
Thanks for the nice recap.  Based upon this, Trump should say he will ignore it.  Trump shouldn't say a word.  That good for nothing Jeff Sessions should be the one saying this.  I don't think this should go to the Supreme Court.  It should have been dismissed with extreme prejudice.
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 8:59:18 PM EDT
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He should just challenge the judge and say "or what".
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Pretty much. They don't really have the authority for something like this and pretending otherwise is just going to set a bad example.
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