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Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:07:20 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:08:48 PM EST
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We predicted this one boys
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Epstein's body is pictured being taken out of New York Presbyterian-Lower Manhattan hospital on Saturday afternoon







Epstein's body was later switched into a white van belonging to a medical examiner, before it was transported away for investigation

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Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:10:32 PM EST
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Damn, who snapped those pics?
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Someone who knew he was coming, which at the time? Bop staff and medical responders.
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:11:47 PM EST
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Nah, if this is not a real suicide, Jeffrey Epstein alive would be a huge risk to the people that are threatened by the information he has.  If that guy was indiscreet and turned up alive somewhere that would be very hard to explain away.
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Unless he paid for his own escape unbeknownst to the clintons.
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:13:20 PM EST
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The conjecture, speculation, presumption, assumption, and outright horseshit in this thread is ridiculous.

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You believe a super-high profile inmate on suicide watch with info that could bring down a list of major names in this country was just conveniently able to hang himself in max security?
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:14:39 PM EST
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'They' don't even care any longer, now they're operating out in the open confirming they're above us and above the law.  The rot goes too deep to be removed, the best we can do is protect our own.

This is some sad shit...
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Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:14:59 PM EST
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Could you imagine how it must fell being locked in a cage, knowing someone is going to come kill you.
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:15:05 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:15:12 PM EST
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Nah, if this is not a real suicide, Jeffrey Epstein alive would be a huge risk to the people that are threatened by the information he has.  If that guy was indiscreet and turned up alive somewhere that would be very hard to explain away.
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That info was going to be released to the press next week or so. What has changed? Won’t the list be public either way?
The release had nothing to do with current investigations.
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:15:47 PM EST
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TLDR

Weird thing is is how quick this was reported as a "suicide" when they normally wait until the coroners report to rule cause of death.
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:17:32 PM EST
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Their was a lot of money and power in play. We’ll have to wait and see who fu**ed up and dropped the ball on this one. Maybe his attorney smuggled in something or BOC staff. It will definitely be someone on the inside.
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:17:43 PM EST
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The jail he was in was known as tougher than Guantanamo bay. Many inmates complained of standing water in cells, insect infestation, and horrible conditions. He was housed in area know as The Box.

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Prisoners Endure A Nightmare 'Gulag' In Lower Manhattan, Hidden In Plain Sight

"I thought there was nowhere worse than Rikers Island," Melvin Rodriguez, who spent three weeks at MCC, told Gothamist. In October 2016, Rodriguez was arrested in the Bronx on federal charges for selling drugs to a confidential informant, as part of the largest gang raid in New York City history.

Rodriguez said the bug and rodent infestation at MCC was particularly horrifying. "The cells [are] very small and at nighttime you hear the mouses, see waterbugs in the shower," he told Gothamist. At least one former MCC prisoner said the mice would find their way into commissary boxes, and gnaw away at their food.

"You asked about the conditions," wrote Ricardo Stewart, another young man indicted as part of the Bronx gang raid. "We saw rats so big it seemed like they could only be in the sewer."

"But they wasn't in the streets or the sewers," Stewart added. "They were more like roommates."

In a special jail-within-a-jail called 10 South, alleged terrorists, mobsters and drug kingpins are subject to some of the most brutal conditions of solitary confinement in the nation.

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After reading that article, I'd probably off myself if I was stuck in there.
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:18:02 PM EST
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You believe a super-high profile inmate on suicide watch with info that could bring down a list of major names in this country was just conveniently able to hang himself in max security?
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Isn’t that list still being released?
The judgement on that release has nothing to do with current or open investigations.
Correct?
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:18:05 PM EST
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Longshot time:

Maybe his suicide was faked to get him into some kind of witness protection program.

Then again, maybe i'm going to win the lottery.
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:19:17 PM EST
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It's hard to believe some photoshopper hasn't put Hildabeast's face in that side mirror yet.
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Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:19:36 PM EST
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Wow !

Just wow!

What a fucking shit show
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:20:25 PM EST
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Lol no one believes only mere incompetence is at play here.
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Don't misunderstand what I'm saying as I'm not excluding other factors. That said, for the BOP to fuck this up would be astounding. Especially when you consider this was one of their highest profile prisoners, and just yesterday there was the massive document unsealing that that exposed tons of additional information about Epstein, his victims, and possible associates.

It defies logic that BOP was 1. Unaware of recent developments, 2. Not taking special precautions beyond a normal prisoner, 3. Didn't have Epstein on suicide watch, 4. Didn't have their best guards and staff assigned to oversee every aspect of Epstein's custody, 5. A plethora of other things.

My point is simple. The federal government is incompetent. So, that cannot be ignored as one of the major possibilities for why Epstein was able to do this. That said, BOP personnel and supervisors, especially for those covering South 10, should be some of the best at MCC. How they allowed this to happen is baffling.
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:21:50 PM EST
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Any docs here? Is battle's sign/ bleeding ears something that is normally seen in hangings?
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That's not Battle's or blood from his ears.

His skin color looks like he was worked a long time and that discoloration of his hair near his ear looks like vomit maybe due to gastric insufflation while ventilating during the resuscitation attempt.

Source: me, I've run lots of unsuccessful resuscitation attempts.
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:23:36 PM EST
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So it would seem!
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:25:51 PM EST
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Any docs here? Is battle's sign/ bleeding ears something that is normally seen in hangings?
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I'm not a pathologist. His head & face discoloration don't look exactly like classic skull fracture bruising to me on those limited snapshots. His head overall is discolored compared with the body. Venous congestion of the head + probable petechial hemorrhages do seem consistent with strangulation.
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:26:03 PM EST
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That info was going to be released to the press next week or so. What has changed? Won’t the list be public either way?
The release had nothing to do with current investigations.
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What's changed is that Jeffery Epstein will never testify in a federal court about what prominent people did while guests on his rape island in exchange for a more lenient sentence.
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:26:14 PM EST
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Well Rod says nothing to see here...

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Ah, that clears things up. Epstein was just your typical run of the mill pedo. Not like he faced these charges before and didn't end up doing any harm to him in the past, financially, politically, and physically.
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:26:52 PM EST
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Are people just now realizing how incompetent CORRUPT AND MURDEROUS the federal government is?
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Lol you can't make this shit up.

He had to be the most high profile risk for suicide/assassination in the country. For it to happen while in custody is just unbelievable.
Are people just now realizing how incompetent CORRUPT AND MURDEROUS the federal government is?
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:28:02 PM EST
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@dbrad197

That's not Battle's or blood from his ears.

His skin color looks like he was worked a long time and that discoloration of his hair near his ear looks like vomit maybe due to gastric insufflation while ventilating during the resuscitation attempt.
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So your saying medical diagnosis from a blurry ass picture doesnt work well?

I was looking at the dark rings by his ears, didnt really think of it vomit or soaked side burns or something like that. Thanks!
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:28:56 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:29:36 PM EST
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Jeffrey Epstein's death by suicide in his Manhattan jail cell means the spotlight is now set to turn on his British 'fixer' and ex-girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell, who allegedly procured girls to have sex with the disgraced financier.

Epstein's death means his accusers can never bring him to justice in the courts, but they now want prosecutors to go after his associates.

'I hope the authorities will pursue and prosecute his accomplices and enablers, and ensure redress for his victims.' said Jennifer Araoz, who was among the victims who spoke out after Epstein's death was announced today.

Authorities are yet to discuss their next move as they deal with outrage that Epstein was apparently able to end his own life despite being on suicide watch.



Ghislaine Maxwell is the daughter of controversial British newspaper tycoon Robert Maxwell, who died after falling overboard from his yacht in 1991.

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Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:29:40 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:29:42 PM EST
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Ahhhh hahahahahahaha, people think guy with dirt on all the world's elite politicians and royalty killed himself because he didn't want to spend time in prison, when he could have made a deal to spill the beans instead?
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:29:57 PM EST
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I'm not a pathologist. His head & face discoloration don't look exactly like classic skull fracture bruising to me on those limited snapshots. His head overall is discolored compared with the body. Venous congestion of the head + probable petechial hemorrhages do seem consistent with strangulation.
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I'm not a pathologist. His head & face discoloration don't look exactly like classic skull fracture bruising to me on those limited snapshots. His head overall is discolored compared with the body. Venous congestion of the head + probable petechial hemorrhages do seem consistent with strangulation.
I'm not seeing petechial hemorrhages, but I'm on my phone and the photo pixelates as I zoom in. Is there a HQ photo out there?
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:31:44 PM EST
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Remember one phrase: " For the good of the country "

The deep state and others in politics can rationalize anything with that phrase. No matter how nasty the deed is.

Epstein had to die.
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:31:53 PM EST
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When did the MCC get towers?
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:33:05 PM EST
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Did any of you notice...

WE’RE NOT DISCUSSING GUN CONTROL ANYMORE

Is Trump the master of 4D chess??  Warm and fuzzy thought of the day.
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:33:30 PM EST
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Like I said, pandering theatrics. She, and everyone else, knows that any "investigation" will tow the line and be inconclusive or just be ruled suicide.
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:33:43 PM EST
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Zoom in on the hospital pics. Does anyone else notice a sharply demarcated line of color above his eyebrows? His face is purple, but the scalp looks pale.

Interesting. May or may not be significant.
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:34:05 PM EST
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From Chan
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:35:24 PM EST
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Any docs here? Is battle's sign/ bleeding ears something that is normally seen in hangings?
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The girlfriend's a pathologist and says that photo doesn't look abnormal.
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:35:31 PM EST
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Police Academy Bubba Smith "hightower" Yama Yama Yama


Guy loading body and the body bag ^
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:35:34 PM EST
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What's changed is that Jeffery Epstein will never testify in a federal court about what prominent people did while guests on his rape island in exchange for a more lenient sentence.
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That is beyond unnecessary.
The info has already been ordered to be released and has nothing to do with an open case.
Any word on the current release date and if it will still be  unredacted?
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:35:35 PM EST
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I'm not seeing petechial hemorrhages, but I'm on my phone and the photo pixelates as I zoom in. Is there a HQ photo out there?
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I'm viewing on an old iPad, but it looks like his left cheek. Or pixels when I zoom in that look like hemorrhage.
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:35:47 PM EST
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I do not know a damn thing about the specific circumstances on this guy’s death.  Neither does anyone else on this forum.

However, I do KNOW this......it is entirely inconsistent that a guy of his stature, gave up and off’d himself.  This guy was a mega rich narcissist who was power-player and was very accustomed to getting things done and getting his own way.  He was still awaiting trial......this guy, I would bet my house on it......was scheming a way to beat the charges.  This was a hard charging, successful son-of-a-bitch.  There is NO possibility he folded up and hanged himself BEFORE he even went to trial.  If the guy was convicted, sentenced, and had exhausted a few appeals over the years....maybe, just maybe I could be convinced he would off himself.  Not now......no way.  This guy was planning his next sex party

Some of the naive may think......he had a soul searching moment and could no longer live with the guilt.  That makes no sense either.  If he would have such an epiphany and he felt immense remorse for his victims, he would turn his energy to protecting his victims.  That would mean taking down the men who are still out there abusing the young girls.  Once he got them off the streets........maybe I’d believe it if he killed himself.

We live in a fucking banana republic!  They fucking killed his ass.
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:36:16 PM EST
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BREAKING: Alleged "camera malfunction" last night at MCC where Jeffrey Epstein was locked up.

https://twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/status/1160199691373621250

Hmmmmmmm?!
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:36:39 PM EST
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Lol yeah in this case it is smart guy. Isolation Housing Sergeant for years here- what's been your experience? I edited my post for more detail if you would like to reduce your haughty ignorance.

Unless you worked in a maximum security wing longer than I have, you are in no position to question my expertise on the subject. The items I outlined un my post in the previous page are ACA Accreditation standard items. Thats a fact
bop and a verified leo on this forum
BOP LT....and verified LEO...I'm with @Jmo371
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:36:41 PM EST
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Next big push will be saying that President Trump had Epstein killed to prevent him from coming forward with evidence of Trump's involvement.

Just you watch.

ETA:



And here we go...
Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:36:49 PM EST
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I never wear the tinfoil but I will bet my 401k that he was murdered
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Link Posted: 8/10/2019 2:37:20 PM EST
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Just another SWAG.  We might learn a lot by how this evolves.  Who gains or loses by dragging it out right up to the election.  Or not.  The "official" response might differ from the uncontrolled media, there is no rug big enough to keep sweeping all of this under.
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