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Link Posted: 5/22/2021 9:40:45 AM EST
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Biden's infrastructure plan for Hamas.


'They need our help': Biden says he will put together 'major package' for Palestinians whose homes have been destroyed in fighting with Israel and will ensure the money doesn’t go 'to Hamas to rebuild their weapons systems'

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Biden promised to help Palestinians who lost their homes during 11 days of Israeli strikes on Gaza as he offered prayers Friday for a ceasefire to hold.

During a press conference to mark the visit of South Korean President Moon Jae-in, he insisted he remained committed to Israeli security.

But he struck a careful balance between both sides as he announced plans to help Palestinians in Gaza rebuild their lives so long as Hamas militants, who rained rockets on Israel, were not able to rebuild their armaments.

'I am prepared to put together, and am going to attempt to put together, a major package with other nations who share our view to rebuild the homes and - without providing Hamas the ability to rebuild their weapons systems - rebuild Gaza,' he said.

'They need help and I’m committed to get that done.'


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Fucking retarded potato
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 9:43:59 AM EST
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That will buy a lot of rockets.
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 9:50:43 AM EST
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They giving money to Israel for the damage they did to Israel and the expenses for defense???  
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 9:51:29 AM EST
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Sounds like the LBJ model is still in play.
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 10:02:51 AM EST
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Biden also stated he was replenishing Iron Dome missiles. But I don't know the details.
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 10:04:25 AM EST
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Also, Gaza held funerals for 43 Hamas operatives. This includes the bodies dug out of the tunnels. Not sure if more are expected.
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 10:11:46 AM EST
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Would have been a great time buzz the crowd with drones.
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 10:19:11 AM EST
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CBU's
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 10:25:59 AM EST
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That will buy a lot of rockets.
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That will buy a lot of rockets.
Why yes and it will allow them to build a more elaborate and deeper tunnel system

They can finally afford new tunneling equipment
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 10:44:10 AM EST
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Why doesn't Egypt and Qatar just take them in?
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 10:45:06 AM EST
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Why doesn't Egypt and Qatar just take them in?
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Why doesn't Egypt and Qatar just take them in?
They don't want them.
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 10:51:04 AM EST
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To me, and this is going to sound bad to a lot of people here, it puts a different spin on what the flag represents and what we are actually doing when we pledge allegiance to it.

I had a Jehovah witness friend who grew up in a town with two marine bases. They did not pledge allegiance to the flag because he said he was taught that you should only pledge allegiance to God. As you can imagine he got a lot of shit over it.

But more and more I understand that position. The way things are now we are pledging allegiance to a government led by a senile pedophile in which every alphabet branch has been weaponized against the country and people that actually support the constitution.

{Prove me wrong giff}
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 11:39:24 AM EST
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To me, and this is going to sound bad to a lot of people here, it puts a different spin on what the flag represents and what we are actually doing when we pledge allegiance to it.

I had a Jehovah witness friend who grew up in a town with two marine bases. They did not pledge allegiance to the flag because he said he was taught that you should only pledge allegiance to God. As you can imagine he got a lot of shit over it.

But more and more I understand that position. The way things are now we are pledging allegiance to a government led by a senile pedophile in which every alphabet branch has been weaponized against the country and people that actually support the constitution.

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What America stands for is different than what it stood for.
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 11:40:39 AM EST
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LOL you don't remember that U.S. drone Obama accidentally on purpose gifted to Iran?

"I'll ask them to give it back."  - Idiot
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 11:44:47 AM EST
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Biden's infrastructure plan for Hamas.


'They need our help': Biden says he will put together 'major package' for Palestinians whose homes have been destroyed in fighting with Israel and will ensure the money doesn’t go 'to Hamas to rebuild their weapons systems'

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/05/21/23/43291833-9606523-image-a-65_1621636549591.jpg

Biden promised to help Palestinians who lost their homes during 11 days of Israeli strikes on Gaza as he offered prayers Friday for a ceasefire to hold.

During a press conference to mark the visit of South Korean President Moon Jae-in, he insisted he remained committed to Israeli security.

But he struck a careful balance between both sides as he announced plans to help Palestinians in Gaza rebuild their lives so long as Hamas militants, who rained rockets on Israel, were not able to rebuild their armaments.

'I am prepared to put together, and am going to attempt to put together, a major package with other nations who share our view to rebuild the homes and - without providing Hamas the ability to rebuild their weapons systems - rebuild Gaza,' he said.

'They need help and I’m committed to get that done.'


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I thought it was the Congress who determines how much money goes where and for what purposes.  Silly me.  Shouldn't SOMEBODY consult with the American people and ask where the American people want their money going?
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 11:55:19 AM EST
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To me, and this is going to sound bad to a lot of people here, it puts a different spin on what the flag represents and what we are actually doing when we pledge allegiance to it.

I had a Jehovah witness friend who grew up in a town with two marine bases. They did not pledge allegiance to the flag because he said he was taught that you should only pledge allegiance to God. As you can imagine he got a lot of shit over it.

But more and more I understand that position. The way things are now we are pledging allegiance to a government led by a senile pedophile in which every alphabet branch has been weaponized against the country and people that actually support the constitution.

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In my later years, the whole pledge thing is like some commie crap. When I was a kid we said it every school day without thinking. It's just what one did. Now, I see it as brain washing. Do guys in the military say it every day? It's kind of understood, or used to be, that you you supported your country. Same goes for the National Anthym. Mixing politics with some lame sports event doesn't make sense at all and tradition be damned. There is no difference in saying the Pledge than reciting some critical race theory mantra every morning. ymmv
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 12:07:29 PM EST
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I'm sure Biden & Co construction will get the re-building project. Probably give them 5G too.
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 12:08:27 PM EST
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Yep. But we live in the present not the past and by all indications we are accelerating in the wrong direction with little resistance.
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 12:08:54 PM EST
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12: IDF recommendations for the way to act in Gaza after the opreation:

1. Strong responses for every rocket and balloon
2. Widespread action against Hamas rearming itself, similarly to the war-between-wars in Syria
3. Detaching between Gaza and jerusalem
4. restoration of the strip only with quiet as a precondition
5. demand Hamas return the missing and captive bodies

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12: behind the scenes of the ceasefire:

1. al-Sisi told Biden Egypt will guarantee Hamas won't fire
2. US admin updated Israel on the Egyptian guarantee, PM convened cabinet
3. Bibi called Biden and updated him with the decision
4. Israel warned - if Hamas fires it will collapse the understandings
5. two hours later: another call between Bibi and Biden
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 12:10:32 PM EST
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Senior Hamas official:

If Israel eliminates Yahya Sinwar or Muhammad Diff, a new round will be opened from Gaza
2. The reconstruction of Gaza will also be, under international pressure and there will be no conditions on the part of Israel
3. I do not propose to Israel to stop the monthly grant of $ 30 million a month ("If You're men over there, let them stop it and see what happens")

4. Hamas demanded guarantees from the Egyptian delegation that Israel would not eliminate senior members of the organization after the end of the operation
5. Hamas sent a message to mediators: We will not sit idly by in Gaza in the event of renewed tensions in Jerusalem and the evacuation of Sheikh Jarrah
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 12:10:56 PM EST
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12: IDF recommendations for the way to act in Gaza after the opreation:

1. Strong responses for every rocket and balloon
2. Widespread action against Hamas rearming itself, similarly to the war-between-wars in Syria
3. Detaching between Gaza and jerusalem
4. restoration of the strip only with quiet as a precondition
5. demand Hamas return the missing and captive bodies

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12: behind the scenes of the ceasefire:

1. al-Sisi told Biden Egypt will guarantee Hamas won't fire
2. US admin updated Israel on the Egyptian guarantee, PM convened cabinet
3. Bibi called Biden and updated him with the decision
4. Israel warned - if Hamas fires it will collapse the understandings
5. two hours later: another call between Bibi and Biden
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So, ‘fragile’ in other words.
Something tells me we haven’t seen the end of this go-around
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 12:11:42 PM EST
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Why doesn't Egypt and Qatar just take them in?

Link Posted: 5/22/2021 12:16:16 PM EST
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Palestinians are on the lowest rung of the Muslim social ladder. Just like you wouldn't let a homeless crackhead move in with you, nobody wants those vermin living with them.
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 12:32:19 PM EST
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The Palistinians have been brain washed for generations to hate the Jews. Reminds me of a group in our own country that can't seem to get their shit together.
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 12:58:01 PM EST
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LOL you don't remember that U.S. drone Obama accidentally on purpose gifted to Iran?

"I'll ask them to give it back."  - Idiot
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LOL you don't remember that U.S. drone Obama accidentally on purpose gifted to Iran?

"I'll ask them to give it back."  - Idiot

Should have been hit with a Tomahawk.
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 1:00:38 PM EST
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Palestinians are on the lowest rung of the Muslim social ladder. Just like you wouldn't let a homeless crackhead move in with you, nobody wants those vermin living with them.
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Palestinians are on the lowest rung of the Muslim social ladder. Just like you wouldn't let a homeless crackhead move in with you, nobody wants those vermin living with them.

Jordan had taken them until they tried to overthrow their government.
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 1:13:31 PM EST
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-Yahya Sinwar is seen in public on the streets of Gaza.
The leader of Hamas in the Gaza Strip came out of hiding to take part in the condolence of a senior member of the military wing of the terrorist organization, Bassem Issa, who was killed during the fighting.




-Hamas on Saturday warned #Palestinians not to talk about the sites that were targeted by #Israel during the 11-day fighting with the #Gaza-based terrorist groups.
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 1:17:40 PM EST
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Interesting RPD setup from one of the Hamas field commanders who died
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 1:39:43 PM EST
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Start throwing bacon on them?
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 2:02:09 PM EST
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Hopefully a lot more
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 2:12:44 PM EST
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Hopefully a lot more
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Hopefully a lot more


That's the thing, I don't think there is a whole lot more. ~90-115 is my guess. Hope I'm wrong.
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 2:48:52 PM EST
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"was that wrong?"

Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 4:31:43 PM EST
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Link Posted: 5/22/2021 4:50:02 PM EST
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Not only did it land short, but it also did not blow up

Quality control issues
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 5:10:55 PM EST
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Yesterday a group was using the local Catholic school's land to host a pro-Palestinian protest. All middle eastern types,  even some in burkas, no basic housewives virtue signaling.

"Clear the Jews from the river to the sea" e.t.c signs made for a nice touch.

The pastor should have been out there with a bullhorn telling them Jesus was a Jew and criminally trespassing all of them.

Kharn
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 5:20:23 PM EST
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Sounds like Hamas is itching for another fight but want to create some sort of spark to make it happen but make sure it look like Israel started it.  That way they can save face with the Arab countries backing them up.
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 5:59:03 PM EST
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Yesterday a group was using the local Catholic school's land to host a pro-Palestinian protest. All middle eastern types,  even some in burkas, no basic housewives virtue signaling.

"Clear the Jews from the river to the sea" e.t.c signs made for a nice touch.

The pastor should have been out there with a bullhorn telling them Jesus was a Jew and criminally trespassing all of them.

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You might want to look into the catholic church's involvement and funding of open borders groups. They the marxist pope and company have already picked a side and it ain't you
Link Posted: 5/22/2021 7:45:34 PM EST
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VICE - Inside the Battle for Jerusalem

Inside the Battle for Jerusalem


Link Posted: 5/22/2021 10:36:38 PM EST
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America has always been its people, not its government.

Usually one represents the other, these days I think a lot of people don't think the government represents them.
Link Posted: 5/23/2021 3:46:19 AM EST
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To me, and this is going to sound bad to a lot of people here, it puts a different spin on what the flag represents and what we are actually doing when we pledge allegiance to it.

I had a Jehovah witness friend who grew up in a town with two marine bases. They did not pledge allegiance to the flag because he said he was taught that you should only pledge allegiance to God. As you can imagine he got a lot of shit over it.

But more and more I understand that position. The way things are now we are pledging allegiance to a government led by a senile pedophile in which every alphabet branch has been weaponized against the country and people that actually support the constitution.

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@gitarmac  Pledging allegiance is a form of brainwashing.  Like you mentioned, what if the government is corrupt, or does evil?  Even if it is not corrupt today (hah) what's to say that wouldn't change?  An oath to the constitution, religion, a set of ideals, ethics is far more logical, because it's an immutable set of ideas.  Oaths to specific people is certainly risky (look at divorce rates), but certainly MUCH less risky than an oath to a government.
Link Posted: 5/23/2021 3:47:25 AM EST
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In my later years, the whole pledge thing is like some commie crap. When I was a kid we said it every school day without thinking. It's just what one did. Now, I see it as brain washing. Do guys in the military say it every day? It's kind of understood, or used to be, that you you supported your country. Same goes for the National Anthym. Mixing politics with some lame sports event doesn't make sense at all and tradition be damned. There is no difference in saying the Pledge than reciting some critical race theory mantra every morning. ymmv
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@IdahoDoug the pledge was written by a socialist.
Link Posted: 5/23/2021 4:00:15 AM EST
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Too bad it's not 43000 Hamas operative funerals

This has been going on since before King David.
Link Posted: 5/24/2021 7:09:20 AM EST
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Palestinians are the Shawnee of the Middle East. Unpleasant, poorly behaving people that no one wants to live with. It's not just Israel doing the "Apartheid" bit.
Link Posted: 5/24/2021 11:34:49 AM EST
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All quiet on the Gaza front.

Surprised the cease fire is holding
Link Posted: 5/24/2021 1:23:44 PM EST
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It's still very beneficial to Hamas. They won a PR victory, and have hundreds of millions of dollars coming in shortly. No need to fuck that up.
Link Posted: 5/24/2021 2:35:23 PM EST
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I wonder how much of the Mediterranean Sea it would take to fill all of those tunnels?
Link Posted: 5/24/2021 2:39:00 PM EST
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Pump them full of flammables and ignite them
Link Posted: 5/24/2021 2:40:42 PM EST
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I like how they describe the Israelis in East Jerusalem as right wing.
Link Posted: 5/24/2021 2:41:06 PM EST
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Palestinians are on the lowest rung of the Muslim social ladder. Just like you wouldn't let a homeless crackhead move in with you, nobody wants those vermin living with them.

Jordan had taken them until they tried to overthrow their government.


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