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Link Posted: 8/16/2017 2:32:33 AM EST
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Watch the video link. "Cops and Klan go hand in hand"
Link Posted: 8/16/2017 2:34:25 AM EST
[#2]
That land whale that climbed the statue was a WOMAN?
Link Posted: 8/16/2017 2:58:16 AM EST
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Did you just assume its gender?
Link Posted: 8/16/2017 3:05:16 AM EST
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Good arrest on that fat assed commie bull dike.
Link Posted: 8/16/2017 3:52:09 AM EST
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They go after the Founding Fathers.

The destruction of history is being purposefully done. If the future generations don't study and know their past, then the State can create new National Mythos to make society into what it wants. 
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So when they run out of statues and nothing magically changes, what then?

Fucking idiots.
They go after the Founding Fathers.

The destruction of history is being purposefully done. If the future generations don't study and know their past, then the State can create new National Mythos to make society into what it wants. 
I think you're giving them too much credit.

The true architects behind the Antifa/BLM/HugAMuslim/etc. movement don't give a shit about history, or tolerance, or slavery, or anything that isn't directly related to keeping themselves comfortably wrapped in money and the power to rule over others. They are simply useful tools which can be used to manipulate the sympathies and emotions of a voting public that has been deliberately conditioned over generations to depend on others to do their thinking for them.  Those terms are the hypnotist's keywords; when uttered by the masters, the puppet's eyes glaze over and they react predictably, refreshing the cloud of chaos used to obscure the public's view of the social engineering and corruption the master's empires are built upon.

None of this is about honor or respect or human rights.  It's about control.
Link Posted: 8/16/2017 4:09:15 AM EST
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That land whale that climbed the statue was a WOMAN?
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Might have been female, but that was no woman.
Link Posted: 8/16/2017 6:15:13 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/16/2017 6:43:17 AM EST
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You're wrong.
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Maryland, Delaware, Kentucky, and Missouri all owned slaves and were Union States. Even with the formation of West Virginia, Senator John S. Carlile objected that Congress had no right to impose emancipation on West Virginia.

North didn't fight the war over Slavery. It simply used it as a reason after the war started.
You're wrong.
No, he's right.

The south left, and fought, over slavery (connected to states rights, but the right in question was slavery). The north fought over the south leaving. Nor did many in the North care about slavery at all. Much like many in the south didn't either.

Everybody likes to think of every side being a monolithic block, years after the war, but they weren't. There's a reason both the South and North had to resort to a draft. Hell, a lot of southern states didn't like or trust the Confederate government because they felt it was trying to gain too much power over the states (which it was, ironically). Shit, I knew people who didn't know the New York Draft Riot was a thing until Gangs of New York came out.

We do this with WW2 now as well, forgetting about all the isolationists before the war (mostly socialists and lefties who though Hitler was fine because Stalin signed a treaty with him), people that opposed the war, or people who just didn't much care. Or people that saw it as a way to make a buck. It makes for an easier story.
Link Posted: 8/16/2017 11:05:01 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/16/2017 11:50:46 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/16/2017 11:56:47 AM EST
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No, he's right.

The south left, and fought, over slavery (connected to states rights, but (one of)  the right in question was slavery). The north fought over the south leaving. Nor did many in the North care about slavery at all. Much like many in the south didn't either.

Everybody likes to think of every side being a monolithic block, years after the war, but they weren't. There's a reason both the South and North had to resort to a draft. Hell, a lot of southern states didn't like or trust the Confederate government because they felt it was trying to gain too much power over the states (which it was, ironically). Shit, I knew people who didn't know the New York Draft Riot was a thing until Gangs of New York came out.

We do this with WW2 now as well, forgetting about all the isolationists before the war (mostly socialists and lefties who though Hitler was fine because Stalin signed a treaty with him), people that opposed the war, or people who just didn't much care. Or people that saw it as a way to make a buck. It makes for an easier story.
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Link Posted: 8/16/2017 11:59:04 AM EST
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Those stories are as far from fact as you can get.

What matters are the personal accounts and source records of the time. Those are as well preserved and documented as is possible, and they're easily available.

Statues don't tell anyone much of anything about what happened, or why it did. They're symbols that reflect the thoughts and wishes of the people who erected them, and not a historical accounting.
Link Posted: 8/16/2017 11:59:20 AM EST
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Baltimore's four Confederate monuments are removed under cover of darkness as the city council swiftly honors its promise
to take down the divisive statues after violent clashes in
Charlottesville



  • Work crews used heavy machinery to haul the monuments away in Baltimore early Wednesday morning
  • The monuments torn down included a  Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson
    statue and one dedicated to the Confederate Women of Maryland
  • A Roger Taney monument and a statue for soldiers and sailors was also removed
  • Crews began removing the city's Confederate monuments late Tuesday and finished around 5.30am on Wednesday 
  • The dismantling of the monuments comes after a deadly rally by white
    nationalists protesting plans to remove a Lee statue in Charlottesville,
    Virginia on Saturday 
  • Baltimore Mayor Catherine Pugh said she acted swiftly to avoid the same violence as Charlottesville
  • Despite the increase in Confederate monument removals, there are more than 700 still standing in the US




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Link Posted: 8/16/2017 12:17:54 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/16/2017 12:19:26 PM EST
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people who keep making this comparison/argument just show their lack of knowledge of history.
Link Posted: 8/16/2017 12:23:15 PM EST
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people who keep making this comparison/argument just show their lack of knowledge of history.
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Generally, the further left, the more retarded.
Link Posted: 8/16/2017 12:53:27 PM EST
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None of this would be happening if the "Solid South" was still voting 100 percent Democrat like it did for 100 years.  

When do they start attacking Woodrow Wilson's statues?  He's the president who re-segregated the government in 1913, and caused many black federal employees to either lose their jobs or lose most of their salaries.
Link Posted: 8/16/2017 12:54:57 PM EST
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It's not just statues Democrats want gone today
Link Posted: 8/16/2017 12:59:06 PM EST
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people who keep making this comparison/argument just show their lack of knowledge of history.
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people who keep making this comparison/argument just show their lack of knowledge of history.
There never were any statues of Hitler to begin with, so there were none to preserve from this rise to power and throughout is leadership of the Third Reich.

Hitler was against having statues of his likeness erected because he saw it being synonymous with the likes of Stalin and Lenin who loved a good statue.

There were however a small number busts made of Hitler's likeness and some of them have been preserved in Germany.

Link Posted: 8/16/2017 3:03:58 PM EST
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Two more arrested.
Link Posted: 8/16/2017 3:09:32 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/16/2017 3:14:07 PM EST
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Guess the Cops don't like being compared to the Klan either. Who knew?
Link Posted: 8/16/2017 3:42:41 PM EST
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I think you're giving them too much credit.

The true architects behind the Antifa/BLM/HugAMuslim/etc. movement don't give a shit about history, or tolerance, or slavery, or anything that isn't directly related to keeping themselves comfortably wrapped in money and the power to rule over others. They are simply useful tools which can be used to manipulate the sympathies and emotions of a voting public that has been deliberately conditioned over generations to depend on others to do their thinking for them.  Those terms are the hypnotist's keywords; when uttered by the masters, the puppet's eyes glaze over and they react predictably, refreshing the cloud of chaos used to obscure the public's view of the social engineering and corruption the master's empires are built upon.

None of this is about honor or respect or human rights.  It's about control.
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"None of this is about honor or respect or human rights.  It's about control."

More explicitly---

IT'S ABOUT STEALING AND TAKING -CONTROL- OF THE USA!!!!!

Link Posted: 8/16/2017 3:45:41 PM EST
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Baltimore's four Confederate monuments are removed under cover of darkness as the city council swiftly honors its promise
to take down the divisive statues after violent clashes in
Charlottesville



  • Work crews used heavy machinery to haul the monuments away in Baltimore early Wednesday morning
  • The monuments torn down included a  Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson
    statue and one dedicated to the Confederate Women of Maryland
  • A Roger Taney monument and a statue for soldiers and sailors was also removed
  • Crews began removing the city's Confederate monuments late Tuesday and finished around 5.30am on Wednesday 
  • The dismantling of the monuments comes after a deadly rally by white
    nationalists protesting plans to remove a Lee statue in Charlottesville,
    Virginia on Saturday 
  • Baltimore Mayor Catherine Pugh said she acted swiftly to avoid the same violence as Charlottesville
  • Despite the increase in Confederate monument removals, there are more than 700 still standing in the US




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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/16/14/434BE56800000578-4795740-A_monument_dedicated_to_the_Confederate_Women_of_Maryland_lies_o-a-25_1502888775587.jpg





http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/16/14/434C0CE800000578-4795740-A_monument_to_Robert_E_Lee_commander_of_the_pro_slavery_Confeder-a-37_1502889710024.jpg





http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/16/14/434C09AA00000578-4795740-Only_the_base_of_the_Robert_E_Lee_and_Thomas_Stonewall_Jackson_r-a-29_1502888775799.jpg
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THIS IS INSANE!

Link Posted: 8/16/2017 4:10:01 PM EST
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"None of this is about honor or respect or human rights.  It's about control."

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IT'S ABOUT STEALING AND TAKING -CONTROL- OF THE USA!!!!!

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I think you're giving them too much credit.

The true architects behind the Antifa/BLM/HugAMuslim/etc. movement don't give a shit about history, or tolerance, or slavery, or anything that isn't directly related to keeping themselves comfortably wrapped in money and the power to rule over others. They are simply useful tools which can be used to manipulate the sympathies and emotions of a voting public that has been deliberately conditioned over generations to depend on others to do their thinking for them.  Those terms are the hypnotist's keywords; when uttered by the masters, the puppet's eyes glaze over and they react predictably, refreshing the cloud of chaos used to obscure the public's view of the social engineering and corruption the master's empires are built upon.

None of this is about honor or respect or human rights.  It's about control.
"None of this is about honor or respect or human rights.  It's about control."

More explicitly---

IT'S ABOUT STEALING AND TAKING -CONTROL- OF THE USA!!!!!

They've been in control for a long time now.  At this point it's about keeping it... and they're scared to death because they can see it slipping through their fingers.  Turn on the news right now - any channel - if you want to see how truly desperate they are.
Link Posted: 8/16/2017 6:22:10 PM EST
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They've been in control for a long time now.  At this point it's about keeping it... and they're scared to death because they can see it slipping through their fingers.  Turn on the news right now - any channel - if you want to see how truly desperate they are.
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EXACTLY!


I had the unpleasant experience of sitting near a TV in a restaurant last night watching ABC News in closed caps.

Their expressions were sickening.

ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!!!




Mid Term elections may be ---interesting...
Link Posted: 8/16/2017 8:56:02 PM EST
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They've been in control for a long time now.  At this point it's about keeping it... and they're scared to death because they can see it slipping through their fingers.  Turn on the news right now - any channel - if you want to see how truly desperate they are.
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When President Trump was raised up the light shown on the communist cockroaches like it hadn't in many many years...
Link Posted: 8/16/2017 9:51:25 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/16/2017 10:03:45 PM EST
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I'm just waiting for a bunch of armed southerners to start standing guard around these confederate monuments. And I would support them.
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And they would promptly be arrested. Only leftist agitators are allowed to break the laws these days it seems.
Link Posted: 8/16/2017 10:27:53 PM EST
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And they would promptly be arrested. Only leftist agitators are allowed to break the laws these days it seems.
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Guess you missed the video of the cop giving the armed dude protecting a monument in Virginia an escort from the protesters at the end of the day all while being harassed by ANTIFA.
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 11:31:12 AM EST
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Will there be convictions? I doubt it.
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 11:38:23 AM EST
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Now go ahead and compare Lee to Hitler.  This is so stupid on so many levels.
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 11:47:05 AM EST
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Guess you missed the video of the cop giving the armed dude protecting a monument in Virginia an escort from the protesters at the end of the day all while being harassed by ANTIFA.
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And they would promptly be arrested. Only leftist agitators are allowed to break the laws these days it seems.
Guess you missed the video of the cop giving the armed dude protecting a monument in Virginia an escort from the protesters at the end of the day all while being harassed by ANTIFA.
Was he breaking the law? Answer- No
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 9:29:59 PM EST
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None of this would be happening if the "Solid South" was still voting 100 percent Democrat like it did for 100 years.  

When do they start attacking Woodrow Wilson's statues?  He's the president who re-segregated the government in 1913, and caused many black federal employees to either lose their jobs or lose most of their salaries.
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Or FDR, who ordered US citizens to be rounded up and put in camps
but FDR is their socialist hero so they never mention that
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 9:51:13 PM EST
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http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2017/08/17/madison-mayor-paul-soglin-orders-removal-two-confederate-memorials-cemetery/576266001/

Two Confederate memorials will be removed from a Madison cemetery, Mayor Paul Soglin said Thursday.

Soglin ordered the removal of a "Confederate's rest commemorative memorial" from the city-owned Forest Hill Cemetery, located on the city's west side.

"There is a larger monument, which has not garnered as much attention, which will also be removed," Soglin said in a statement posted on his Facebook account. That marker was installed about 100 years ago and will require heavy machinery to remove, Soglin said in an interview.

The memorials honor 140 Confederate soldiers who died in 1862 while in captivity at nearby Camp Randall. They were buried in a mass grave at Forest Hill.

The display of Confederate flags at the cemetery and the memorials have stirred considerable debate in Madison, including a 2016 city attorney's opinion that said the city's policies on flag displays were outdated.

"The removal of city-owned monuments to confederate soldiers in Forest Hill Cemetery has minimal or no disruption to the cemetery itself," Soglin said. "There is no disrespect to the dead with the removal of the plaque and stone."

Soglin said both monuments include inscriptions that "speak in glowing terms about the historic efforts of the Confederacy."

The older monument lists the names of the Confederate soldiers buried at Forest Hill.

"It will eventually be replaced with a plaque or some sort of monument with the names of the deceased," the mayor said. "There's not going to be any additional language included."

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FO time, people?
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 10:01:41 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/17/2017 10:42:36 PM EST
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No, he's right.

The south left, and fought, over slavery (connected to states rights, but the right in question was slavery). The north fought over the south leaving. Nor did many in the North care about slavery at all. Much like many in the south didn't either.

It makes for an easier story.
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Actually, Northerners cared greatly about slavery for two HUGE reasons:

1) White populations in southern states benefited from the fact that they got more Congressional seats than their rated from their voting eligible population. 3/5 of the black population counted toward electoral votes and the number of extra Congressional seats. This was a gimme prize awarded in the Constitutional Conventions.

2) Northern industry that paid for its labor couldn't compete with southern industry that used free slave labor. Could many of the southern crops have grown in free states? Absolutely, but it wasn't profitable when your competition didn't have to pay a nickle to its workers. If you don't think this is a real reason, this is the same reason why iPads are made in China and not North Dakota.

The Civil War was about slavery.
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 10:47:31 PM EST
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DSA / antifa / refuse facism are pushing hard, this is 1 of many tweets
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 10:48:06 PM EST
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http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2017/08/17/madison-mayor-paul-soglin-orders-removal-two-confederate-memorials-cemetery/576266001/

Two Confederate memorials will be removed from a Madison cemetery, Mayor Paul Soglin said Thursday.

Soglin ordered the removal of a "Confederate's rest commemorative memorial" from the city-owned Forest Hill Cemetery, located on the city's west side.

"There is a larger monument, which has not garnered as much attention, which will also be removed," Soglin said in a statement posted on his Facebook account. That marker was installed about 100 years ago and will require heavy machinery to remove, Soglin said in an interview.

The memorials honor 140 Confederate soldiers who died in 1862 while in captivity at nearby Camp Randall. They were buried in a mass grave at Forest Hill.

The display of Confederate flags at the cemetery and the memorials have stirred considerable debate in Madison, including a 2016 city attorney's opinion that said the city's policies on flag displays were outdated.

"The removal of city-owned monuments to confederate soldiers in Forest Hill Cemetery has minimal or no disruption to the cemetery itself," Soglin said. "There is no disrespect to the dead with the removal of the plaque and stone."

Soglin said both monuments include inscriptions that "speak in glowing terms about the historic efforts of the Confederacy."

The older monument lists the names of the Confederate soldiers buried at Forest Hill.

"It will eventually be replaced with a plaque or some sort of monument with the names of the deceased," the mayor said. "There's not going to be any additional language included."

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In other words, the leftist desecrated a grave.
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 10:52:59 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/17/2017 10:55:54 PM EST
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It's amazing how quickly this is happening in so many cities just to appease the goddamn unappeasable leftist fuckwits.
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 11:11:35 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/17/2017 11:12:47 PM EST
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But we have monuments to Lenin in Seattle and the Golden Arches...
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 11:14:43 PM EST
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Trying to erase the democrat racist history  
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 11:16:28 PM EST
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New York City antifa raise money for Yvette Felarca
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 11:19:13 PM EST
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I literally have no fucking idea what they are trying to say in that tweet.
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 11:20:31 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/17/2017 11:49:01 PM EST
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I literally have no fucking idea what they are trying to say in that tweet.
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Me either.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 7:57:02 AM EST
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Actually, Northerners cared greatly about slavery for two HUGE reasons:

1) White populations in southern states benefited from the fact that they got more Congressional seats than their rated from their voting eligible population. 3/5 of the black population counted toward electoral votes and the number of extra Congressional seats. This was a gimme prize awarded in the Constitutional Conventions.

2) Northern industry that paid for its labor couldn't compete with southern industry that used free slave labor. Could many of the southern crops have grown in free states? Absolutely, but it wasn't profitable when your competition didn't have to pay a nickle to its workers. If you don't think this is a real reason, this is the same reason why iPads are made in China and not North Dakota.

The Civil War was about slavery.
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In one post you fail both economics and history.  Your grade for the semester: F.
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