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Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:13:25 PM EST
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2019.

Notre Dame Cathedral burns...

I'm still betting on ROP activity, and if I'm right and it actually becomes widely known....going to be interesting times, for sure.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:13:28 PM EST
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I imagine they will.  There are some amazing craftsmen who are very skilled in ancient techniques.  It's an art in itself over there.

They will rebuild it, and plenty of artisans will be honored to be a part of it.
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It is very sad.  Hopefully it is rebuilt properly.  Multitudes of historical buildings have been damaged throughout history and repaired (some better, some worse).  Hopefully this will just add to the history of the church and not be a detriment.

I would really hope they rebuild it like the Japanese rebuild their castles; using all the old techniques and skills.
I imagine they will.  There are some amazing craftsmen who are very skilled in ancient techniques.  It's an art in itself over there.

They will rebuild it, and plenty of artisans will be honored to be a part of it.
In the show I mentioned earlier, they talked to a guy carving a replacement stone that was maybe a square yard.   He said it would take two years to finish it.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:13:31 PM EST
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To be fair, this went nearly 12 pages in the GD with only minor fuckery until the children got out of school and started to post.
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Not even a little miffed, huh?
To be fair, this went nearly 12 pages in the GD with only minor fuckery until the children got out of school and started to post.
Unfortunately, this thread will bring out the most ignorant and crass among us; mark my words.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:13:38 PM EST
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I wonder if this is revenge for New Zealand.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:13:51 PM EST
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We used to have a French team member here.  It would be interesting to hear from him.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:14:06 PM EST
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Am I the only one that's extremely pissed off here?  And I'm not even French.  
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Nope.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:14:35 PM EST
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Lets not be overly dramatic.  3000+ people died on 9/11.  Nobody has died in Notre Dame. It sucks, but on a different scale.
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It's not about killing people, it's about killing faith.  The planning for 9/11 could have been done when they were much fuller.  
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:14:39 PM EST
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While the whitewash will eventually be complete, I'm interested in who the workers were in that area and how the fire started shortly after the cathedral closed for the day.  You do know that the other churches attacked in France all got hit after closing?

Could be welding sparks, a torch happy roofer, cigarettes carelessly discarded, or something else.  Not that any of this matters because the truth will never be known for sure.  It'll be bull dozed and the site will be made into some kind of peace memorial.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:14:47 PM EST
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Breaking: France, we will rebuild. They have already submitted a model of the new cathedral.

Pope gives it his blessing!

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Isnt that where Jabba the Hutt lived?
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:14:47 PM EST
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Shep just mentioned the attacks on churches in Paris, the exact topic the French politician was talking about. What a fucking asshole.
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I fucking hate that guy....
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:14:52 PM EST
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They're trying to keep the rest of the city from burning down. The building never had a chance. There's not much you can do with a building of that size with a massive amount of 800 year old dried wood as fuel. "Surround and drown" was the only option.
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They're trying to keep the rest of the city from burning down. The building never had a chance. There's not much you can do with a building of that size with a massive amount of 800 year old dried wood as fuel. "Surround and drown" was the only option.
Only thing I can think of is airport fire fighting foam.  Too late now obviously.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:15:26 PM EST
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lol at all the people frothing at the mouth for it to be a ROP attack

Maybe now we can see if there really is hidden tunnels underneath!
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We are fearing the worst.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:15:31 PM EST
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Am I the only one that's extremely pissed off here?  And I'm not even French.  
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It's very upsetting, and it should be to anyone who is religious or respects culture, art & the history of Western Civilization.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:15:37 PM EST
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Oh my God this is terrible. This great cathedral has been standing for 850 years and we are now watching it be destroyed. This is just terrible.
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Construction started almost a thousand years ago.

- Purgatory wasn't even defined when construction began.
- Genghis Kahn was one year old when construction began.
- The 3rd Crusade was 20 years after construction began.
- Manuscripts were still only used by monks. It would be another hundred years until manuscripts made their way into cities. France was actually one of the first.

This is a big loss
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:15:39 PM EST
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In the show I mentioned earlier, they talked to a guy carving a replacement stone that was maybe a square yard.   He said it would take two years to finish it.
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If they rebuild, I imagine they will expedite things just a bit more than that.  
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:15:48 PM EST
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No.
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Am I the only one that's extremely pissed off here?  And I'm not even French.  
No.
Not by a long shot.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:15:58 PM EST
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In the show I mentioned earlier, they talked to a guy carving a replacement stone that was maybe a square yard.   He said it would take two years to finish it.
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It is very sad.  Hopefully it is rebuilt properly.  Multitudes of historical buildings have been damaged throughout history and repaired (some better, some worse).  Hopefully this will just add to the history of the church and not be a detriment.

I would really hope they rebuild it like the Japanese rebuild their castles; using all the old techniques and skills.
I imagine they will.  There are some amazing craftsmen who are very skilled in ancient techniques.  It's an art in itself over there.

They will rebuild it, and plenty of artisans will be honored to be a part of it.
In the show I mentioned earlier, they talked to a guy carving a replacement stone that was maybe a square yard.   He said it would take two years to finish it.
It will never be rebuilt as it was
The time and cost would be beyond belief.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:16:02 PM EST
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so edgy
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so edgy
even edgier
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:16:12 PM EST
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2019.

Notre Dame Cathedral burns...

I'm still betting on ROP activity, and if I'm right and it actually becomes widely known....going to be interesting times, for sure.
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2019.

Notre Dame Cathedral burns...

I'm still betting on ROP activity, and if I'm right and it actually becomes widely known....going to be interesting times, for sure.
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I wonder if this is revenge for New Zealand.
I had the same thoughts.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:16:14 PM EST
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Damn! Catholic or not, atheist or not, this is a blow to History.
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Agree.

I'm not Catholic, but I am today in solidarity with those of that faith the world over.

This is a sickening day for anyone that appreciates the history and significance of it all.

Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:16:18 PM EST
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Breaking: France, we will rebuild. They have already submitted a model of the new cathedral.

Pope gives it his blessing!

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That was a fine church at one time.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:16:19 PM EST
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I fucking hate that guy....
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Shep just mentioned the attacks on churches in Paris, the exact topic the French politician was talking about. What a fucking asshole.
I fucking hate that guy....
I had to turn the channel. He sickitates me.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:16:20 PM EST
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Nope. The kid at the Mall of America, yep. A building and artwork, while valuable and pretty, nope.
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You're a hilarious fucking asshole.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:16:21 PM EST
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Isnt that where Jabba the Hutt lived?
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Breaking: France, we will rebuild. They have already submitted a model of the new cathedral.

Pope gives it his blessing!

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/139135/IMG_1506_JPG-913514.JPG
Isnt that where Jabba the Hutt lived?
funny, that started out as church, an eastern orthodox church.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:16:35 PM EST
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I'm late on this story and about to read this thread.

Knowing GD is going to GD, I'm sure the conspiracy theorist/Muslims did it! has started here since it's all over the news article comment section...and GD has much of the same types of people.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:16:47 PM EST
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Huge loss for Western Civilization.  Could even mark a turning point.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:17:00 PM EST
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So sad.  
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:17:08 PM EST
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Awful.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:17:18 PM EST
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Let's not forget the same group of cunts tried to explode the WTC in 1993. The cunts were also carrying out terrorist attacks in France near the same time as 9-11. If you ask me, I think we've been cutting the GWOT far too short and with a lack of the drastic measures that would be required to rid the world of terrorism in the name of allah. Deport all the things.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:17:33 PM EST
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Need to brush up on my acronyms. What is ROP? Muzzies?
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:17:53 PM EST
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The scaffolding does make construction/reconstruction related structure fire the most likely cause of we're guessing.

That said knowing what I know about the US, I'd be really surprised if they didn't have insane fire hazard rules with an abundance of safety. The kind of outfit that would secure a job like that would have to be squared away. If this was the cause I can't imagine then securing more work.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:17:58 PM EST
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Are Democrats pushing for new gun bans yet?

Really it's too bad but let's not lose our heads over this.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:18:08 PM EST
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lol at all the people frothing at the mouth for it to be a ROP attack

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If they do find the  tunnels they will probably find "Indiana Jones was here" scribbled somewhere inside one of them.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:18:26 PM EST
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Construction started almost a thousand years ago.

- Purgatory wasn't even defined when construction began.
- Genghis Kahn was one year old when construction began.
- The 3rd Crusade was 20 years after construction began.
- Manuscripts were still only used by monks. It would be another hundred years until manuscripts made their way into cities. France was actually one of the first.

This is a big loss
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Oh my God this is terrible. This great cathedral has been standing for 850 years and we are now watching it be destroyed. This is just terrible.
Construction started almost a thousand years ago.

- Purgatory wasn't even defined when construction began.
- Genghis Kahn was one year old when construction began.
- The 3rd Crusade was 20 years after construction began.
- Manuscripts were still only used by monks. It would be another hundred years until manuscripts made their way into cities. France was actually one of the first.

This is a big loss
200 years to build, burned to the ground in less than a day
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:18:37 PM EST
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While the whitewash will eventually be complete, I'm interested in who the workers were in that area and how the fire started shortly after the cathedral closed for the day.  You do know that the other churches attacked in France all got hit after closing?

Could be welding sparks, a torch happy roofer, cigarettes carelessly discarded, or something else.  Not that any of this matters because the truth will never be known for sure.  It'll be bull dozed and the site will be made into some kind of peace memorial.
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Nothing is getting bulldozed. If it can’t be fixed, they’ll preserve the ruins.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:18:41 PM EST
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It's not about killing people, it's about killing faith.  The planning for 9/11 could have been done when they were much fuller.  
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So you've determined  that its a terrorist attack now?
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:18:49 PM EST
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Need to brush up on my acronyms. What is ROP? Muzzies?
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Yes, stands for Religion Of Peace.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:18:55 PM EST
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I was referring to your snide remark relating to dropping a bomb on a Cathedral. But yeah, you knew that....
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I am sorry, you can not be this dense man. I wasn't saying you could drop a bomb on it, I was saying dropping the amount of water that a tanker plane could drop on it would damage a structure like this as much as a JDam, which is ironically your fucking name.

Fucking hell dude
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:18:59 PM EST
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Need to brush up on my acronyms. What is ROP? Muzzies?
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Licorice
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:19:05 PM EST
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Religion Of Peace. Muslims.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:19:10 PM EST
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Huge loss for Western Civilization.  Could even mark a turning point.
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A foreboding of the future?
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:19:28 PM EST
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Not even close to case closed, but not all fires are 100% mystery until an investigation has been done. An investigation certainly should be done, could be accidental, could be negligent behavior, could have just as easily been malicious.
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The investigation will be extensive. Just amazed that it went from potential construction related accident to construction related accident so quickly. Not surprised that possibility is what they led with and more details might shine light on why that was, but strange to me nonetheless.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:20:01 PM EST
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Occam's razor -> accidental fire due to work being done in that area

In any case, it's a major disaster for the Catholic church and all of Christianity
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10?

LOL

It took 200 years the first time...
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Even with modern construction tech, 50-75 years if everything goes well.

La Sagrada Familia has been under construction since 1882 and isn't near completion yet..
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:20:15 PM EST
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I'm surprised there are no views from a news helicopter.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:20:17 PM EST
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Not Catholic. Not French. Still Tragic.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:20:31 PM EST
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I don't even know if you could. Does the skill set to make stained glass windows of that quality or carved wooden reliefs like they had even exist anymore? The paintings and sculptures? Irreplaceable.
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To rebuild would be an immense, if not impossible, undertaking.
I don't even know if you could. Does the skill set to make stained glass windows of that quality or carved wooden reliefs like they had even exist anymore? The paintings and sculptures? Irreplaceable.
Knowing the french, they will construct a modern structure that incorporates what remains.

A terrible loss.
Link Posted: 4/15/2019 2:20:35 PM EST
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