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South Korea and Japan need to get their shit together, and fire up their nuclear weapons programs. The NPT is a fucking joke anyway, so do what you need to do. Get your shit together! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tGL-buZ94Y View Quote Both Nippon and ROK have shake and bake nuclear programs. They need to assemble them, let bake for 15 minutes, and serve. |
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Well I'm certainly glad we elected a reality TV star to manage our world affairs. That's working out great.
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so the maximum has now been applied. Kind of late to do something that should've been done years ago. Maybe South Korea should start moving the people out of soul. Is that even possible?
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Well I'm certainly glad we elected a reality TV star to manage our world affairs. That's working out great. View Quote If you want to see what we'd be in for with the Hildebeest ("We came, we saw, he died. <giggle, giggle giggle"), just look at the great success that we've had with Libya. It's now calm, peaceful and an ally we can trust, right? |
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I'm glad too. Working out great. Glad you're aboard. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I'm glad too. Working out great. Glad you're aboard. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Yep really enjoying the dynamic of being on the brink of war because we elected an idiot celebrity. Especially one that is concerned about his family going to jail and pardoning them. View Quote |
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Trump literally brought us to the literal brink. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I know right? Remember all those times we had to discuss Obama possibly doing a first strike on North Korea? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yep really enjoying the dynamic of being on the brink of war because we elected an idiot celebrity. Especially one that is concerned about his family going to jail and pardoning them. |
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Trump is trying to twitter troll NK into a nuke test so he will have a really good reason to attack.
Don't worry, we're going to Marvin Gaye it up pretty soon. |
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Yep really enjoying the dynamic of being on the brink of war because we elected an idiot celebrity. Especially one that is concerned about his family going to jail and pardoning them. |
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Is this another case of a leak?
Why would either side want it to be known that such a call has been requested. |
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Yep really enjoying the dynamic of being on the brink of war because we elected an idiot celebrity. Especially one that is concerned about his family going to jail and pardoning them. That certainly put us in a good negotiating position with the North Koreans and Iranians, didn't it? Which is why we no longer have any problems with the Norks and Iranians... oh wait. |
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If only Hillary would have won the election we would have already surrendered South Korea and Japan,
We wouldn't have to worry about a war till we surrender Alaska! |
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BREAKING: Melania has urgent call with Trump tonight, requests he pick up eggs on the way home.
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Is that even in question? One mention of a liberal unzipping their pants and his mouth starts watering. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yep really enjoying the dynamic of being on the brink of war because we elected an idiot celebrity. Especially one that is concerned about his family going to jail and pardoning them. |
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First, let me get this out into the open first. I've been drinking today. Second, some might know me from other posts about the shit happening in North Korea. And I'd like to expand and possibly conclude a guess I made earlier. My basic takeaway from those was that military action was basically impossible without using massive military force, to possibly include nukes, likely triggering a large scale regional war with lots of casualties. Trump doesn't have the political capital to start this war, so his unspoken but realistic options are to force a coup to remove Kim Jung Un or to do nothing and kick the can down the road for the sake of temporary piece. I was leaning more to the latter since the political landscape in Washington does not lend him to spend a lot of time dealing with North Korea (though I also think somebody within in Cabinet is running point on it with need for guidance, simply back filling Trump in). Steinhab was a sad panda. Then I saw I'm surfing arfcom and I see this OP and the title catches my attention. I knew the new stupid EO sanctions bill that Trump signed had a stipulation that ordered him to make new sanctions against North Korea, I figured it was about that bill. But not so! I wasn't aware that the UN Security Council had also gotten involved. Lo and behold, it seems the US just got an ally in this endeavor, an important one. I dug a bit more and found an interesting article: Stop missile tests, China tells North Korea All of them are bullshit besides the first one. That list makes up most of North Korean annual exports, losing China as a trading partner on this would be if the Chinese lost the US for exporting cheap crap, or if McDonald's wasn't allow to sell to fat poor people (I love McDonalds, I'm allowed to talk shit about them). So to get to the point, this is bad for North Korea, this is a "holy shit, our economy is going to collapse no matter what we do to try to stop it" moment. Will that ever be said openly in any meeting between Kim and his minions? Fuck no, those men are never frank with one another, they are bullshitters who say the party line and then backfight behind closed doors. But I bet money that every one of Kim and his ministers are thinking how badly they are fucked now. But we can do more. For months I've been saying it, I even told my wife about it, if we really wanted to totally fuck NK up and crank the pressure to induce a coup we'd somehow find a way get China to ban the export of their own oil into North Korea. Those commie fuckers have almost none of their own, they need to import everything and they are utterly reliant on Chinese oil. Back in the 90s that nasty famine was the result of them having modernized their agriculture using gas to fuel the tractors that were all coming from the USSR. When the USSR went under they stopped giving oil, they stopped helping with paying for infrastructure, so the NK agricultural industry came to a literal halt and supposedly millions starved as a result. I search some more and found this article: Chinese Oil Giant Cuts Off Fuel Sales to North Korea Its from over a month ago, how the fuck did I miss this? Probably because the news is always just talking about mah Russia shit. But fuck it, I did find it and holy shit is this important. Sure, the reasoning they list for cutting sales is bullshit, a Chinese state owned oil company doesn't cut fuel sales to an entire nation just because of payment issues, they'd go into the red and the PRC govt would pay them back, since they fucking own the company anyway. They did it because President Xi told them to. So why did President Xi do it? Why did Xi order executives of companies owned by the PRC to stop selling them oil? Why did they just ban the import of everything of value that North Korea sells that isn't meth related? (Fun fact: N. Korea make some top notch meth apparently). I don't know what was said to Xi, what concession were paid, but a deal was made. There can be no other way that China went along with this, it violates historical Chinese-North Korean relationship, and at the time this is happening it would be too loss of face for Xi unless he profited from it. Maybe it was simply a return to 2016 status quo regarding tariffs and trade deals. Who knows? Whatever happened it was more than just Xi's "small heart grew three sizes." The point is a deal was made and now the waiting game begins. Fat boy Kim is going to spend every meeting with his subordinates from this point forward sweating bullets while reaching for his hidden pistol because he has to know what is coming. He's a fucking goner. He can't trust anyone because everyone now has reason to kill him, their own future survival. His only option now, besides abandoning the nuke program entirely (lol), stepping down voluntarily (lol), is to saber rattle about starting a preemptive war of aggression to get them to drop the sanctions. But its a gamble, Kim can't win that war and if he uses his nukes (which are the only strategic weapons he has) then the retaliation means everyone running NK dies, their families die or end up as paupers (a bad thing in Korean culture everything done is to support the family). All their porn, their western booze, their mistresses, movie collections, secret gambling trips overseas and whoring, all of it is gone if they throw down. Can this war still happen? Yes. We pushed Japan into a similar corner in WWII but there were many differences. There was much more parity between the US and the Japanese in '41. Their military situation wasn't just more equal, their plan could have worked had the circumstances been a bit different. They likely wouldn't win but they at least had some chance of accomplishing their overly ambitious goal. But the North Koreans, those fuckers have no chance of ultimate victory if they start a war of aggression. NK doesn't have the nuclear deterrent yet to protect it, and even if they do get a few ICBMs that wont work because they need overwhelming force for the nuclear deterrent to really work. That will take years. Within a year probably there wont be a single vehicle or generator in NK running. So while its possible war breaks out, most likely wont happen, they will all recognize that they can't win it, so a coup is more likely. If fighting does occur, it will probably be a civil war within the NK govt as ministers take action to ensure the survival of their power, their family, and the continued existence of their country. And so, the Chinese have finally stepped the fuck up and the ultimate sanctions are on North Korea, and they'll soon be in their worse shape since their creation if they don't remove Kim Jung Un. How the fuck did this happen you might ask? Have a beer, smile, enjoy your afternoon View Quote |
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How much further can the free world paint this dog eating dictator in to a corner before he totally flips his lid ?
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The time to stop this happened the day before Carter and Clinton gave them the reactor to do it with.
Now is the time to DEAL with it. While we're at it, IMHO, we should send a B2 to bomb Plains GA to give Carter his well deserved just deserts. And then go bomb whatever whore den that Slick Willie is currently spreading disease in as well. |
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How much further can the free world paint this dog eating dictator in to a corner before he totally flips his lid ? War is inevitable. View Quote |
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Yeah, fuck you Moon. That guy was all about removing THAD during the campaign. Now, he's having second thoughts... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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From an officer I know over there right now, he pretty much HAD to say that to keep the support of his political party, but he's a former ROK Special Forces officer, he apparently knows the real score. View Quote |
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Yep really enjoying the dynamic of being on the brink of war because we elected an idiot celebrity. Especially one that is concerned about his family going to jail and pardoning them. |
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