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Posted: 7/12/2018 11:17:32 AM EST
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This is exactly what the left wants, demonize police until they fold, crime goes through the roof then they can push for a federal police force which they will completely control
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Posted: 7/12/2018 11:27:32 AM EST
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I have people ask me what they should go see in Baltimore when in town. I say Annapolis
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Posted: 7/12/2018 11:28:56 AM EST
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59-22. Switch-blade knives. (a) Possession or sale, etc., prohibited. It shall be unlawful for any person to sell, carry, or possess any knife with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade, commonly known as a switch-blade knife. Assisted opening knives are not commonly known as a "switch-blade knife" unless of course you are trying to railroad someone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cops get prosecuted for enforcing the law. Cops stop enforcing the law. Then crime is supposed to decrease while no one gets arrested because arrests (and cops) are racist. Instead, crime increases. Who could have seen that coming? Why it's almost as if people responded to rewards and punishments. Kharn (a) Possession or sale, etc., prohibited. It shall be unlawful for any person to sell, carry, or possess any knife with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade, commonly known as a switch-blade knife. Assisted opening knives are not commonly known as a "switch-blade knife" unless of course you are trying to railroad someone. State law: Code of Maryland, Section 4-105
(a) Prohibited. A person may not sell, barter, display, or offer to sell or barter: (1) a knife or a penknife having a blade that opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring, or other device in the handle of the knife, commonly called a switchblade knife or a switchblade penknife; Kharn |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 11:28:59 AM EST
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What law were they enforcing? The BS auto knife law that they were trying to stretch to include an assisted opening pocket knife? I would rather have no police than have ass hats like that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cops get prosecuted for enforcing the law. Cops stop enforcing the law. Then crime is supposed to decrease while no one gets arrested because arrests (and cops) are racist. Instead, crime increases. Who could have seen that coming? Why it's almost as if people responded to rewards and punishments. If they are going to do this then they should look the other way when some citizens take out the trash but they won't and you know it. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 11:30:30 AM EST
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I wonder if TheDoctors308 is still on the force?
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Posted: 7/12/2018 11:34:53 AM EST
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Quoted: Former Baltimore Police Lt. Vic Gearhart, pictured at his Baltimore County, Md. home, says "officers no longer put themselves on the firing line." (Photo: Doug Kapustin, for USA TODAY) |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 11:57:55 AM EST
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Surely the quality of policing has improved due to the compassionate support and assistance provided to the police departments by the local government and community?
The increase in violent crimes has to be from the racist republicans creating an atmosphere of hate and violence against minorities. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 12:00:12 PM EST
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Baltimore Sun article on the difference State law: The distinction is the city code only requires a spring, the state law requires the presence of a button and a spring. In Baltimore, a knife design that includes a spring which acts on the blade is a switchblade and has been this way for years. Kharn The ordinance, once again: 59-22. Switch-blade knives. (a) Possession or sale, etc., prohibited. It shall be unlawful for any person to sell, carry, or possess any knife with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade, commonly known as a switch-blade knife. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 12:15:52 PM EST
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Yeah, I posted the ordinance. Once again also: Assisted opening knives are not commonly known as a "switch-blade knife" unless of course you are trying to railroad someone. Not only were the cops stretching the ordinance past what it says, they are enforcing a fucking bs law in the first place. Screw them, they got what they deserved. (The ones who made the arrest, not the others involved.) The ordinance, once again: 59-22. Switch-blade knives. (a) Possession or sale, etc., prohibited. It shall be unlawful for any person to sell, carry, or possess any knife with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade, commonly known as a switch-blade knife. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Baltimore Sun article on the difference State law: The distinction is the city code only requires a spring, the state law requires the presence of a button and a spring. In Baltimore, a knife design that includes a spring which acts on the blade is a switchblade and has been this way for years. Kharn The ordinance, once again: 59-22. Switch-blade knives. (a) Possession or sale, etc., prohibited. It shall be unlawful for any person to sell, carry, or possess any knife with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade, commonly known as a switch-blade knife. Freddie Grey was a drug dealing shithead who needed another probation violation to keep him away from the people trying to eek out some peaceful existence in "his" neighborhood. Kharn |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 12:24:45 PM EST
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I don't blame the police one bit
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Posted: 7/12/2018 12:25:01 PM EST
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“Cops are doing as requested: lessening racial disparity, lessening complaints, lessening police-involved shootings. All those numbers are just great right now, and if those are your metrics of success, we’re winning."
Then what's the problem? Oh yeah, all those dead people. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 12:50:29 PM EST
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Make no mistake, YOU will still have police. Plenty of normal people will still have plenty of police in their lives, probably more than before now that the cops aren't fucking with criminals. If they are going to do this then they should look the other way when some citizens take out the trash but they won't and you know it. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 1:12:25 PM EST
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The article leaves out in large part that the reason for this was the absolutely phony murder charges that the black city leadership trumped up against all the police officers involved, black & white alike. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 1:19:04 PM EST
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"commonly known as" had no bearing on the crime, only the presence of the spring. If you carry an assisted opening knife and end up being thought a shithead by a Baltimore city cop, you are going to jail. Normal people will escape notice or at worst have it dropped in a storm drain due to officer discretion and an overoaded court system. Freddie Grey was a drug dealing shithead who needed another probation violation to keep him away from the people trying to eek out some peaceful existence in "his" neighborhood. Kharn Yes, it's a bullshit law, but that isn't the law that started the trouble. If your car gets impounded because you were doing 120 on I-70 in MD, and they find a gun in the trunk, you are fucked. Not because of the bullshit transportation laws in MD, but because you brought attention to yourself for some other cause. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 1:53:22 PM EST
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"commonly known as" had no bearing on the crime, only the presence of the spring. If you carry an assisted opening knife and end up being thought a shithead by a Baltimore city cop, you are going to jail. Normal people will escape notice or at worst have it dropped in a storm drain due to officer discretion and an overoaded court system. Freddie Grey was a drug dealing shithead who needed another probation violation to keep him away from the people trying to eek out some peaceful existence in "his" neighborhood. Kharn |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 1:55:27 PM EST
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Bingo. He wasn't stopped for a knife; he was stopped for being a known drug dealer on probation, in a location at which he had a history of selling drugs. Then he ran. The knife he was carrying was a convenient charge; they could have busted him on something else. Yes, it's a bullshit law, but that isn't the law that started the trouble. If your car gets impounded because you were doing 120 on I-70 in MD, and they find a gun in the trunk, you are fucked. Not because of the bullshit transportation laws in MD, but because you brought attention to yourself for some other cause. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 1:56:50 PM EST
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Its gonna get worse too. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 2:01:12 PM EST
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So if you are a shit head it is ok to arrest you for BS laws....got it. You think I'd write a Jaywalking ticket to a Citizen? Or cite them for "Tag not properly visible" or "Parked more than 12 inches from the curb"? That's one way of letting shitheads know you love them. But, nothing says I have to do it. Only if I give a damn about the crime on my beat. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 2:13:05 PM EST
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Absolutely. You think I'd write a Jaywalking ticket to a Citizen? Or cite them for "Tag not properly visible" or "Parked more than 12 inches from the curb"? That's one way of letting shitheads know you love them. But, nothing says I have to do it. Only if I give a damn about the crime on my beat. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 2:16:06 PM EST
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Make no mistake, YOU will still have police. Plenty of normal people will still have plenty of police in their lives, probably more than before now that the cops aren't fucking with criminals. If they are going to do this then they should look the other way when some citizens take out the trash but they won't and you know it. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 2:25:21 PM EST
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I like the fact that you at least use discretion. This scenario is more like arresting someone for "Tag not properly visible" because you pulled up too close to them and can't see it. Or maybe parked more than 12 inches from the curb when there isn't a curb. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 2:28:06 PM EST
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No, it wasn't. Known dealer, on probation, standing at one of the places where he operated. Cops pull over to talk, he ran. They did not know he had the knife until after they caught him, tackled him, and frisked him. They didn't pull over because they saw the outline of a knife in his pants. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 2:31:04 PM EST
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An utter shithole run by neanderthals. I wouldn't lift a finger if I was a cop there. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 2:37:40 PM EST
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An utter shithole run by neanderthals. I wouldn't lift a finger if I was a cop there. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 2:37:52 PM EST
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Anyone remember the user name of the Baltimore cop who USED to regularly post here? Had a 762 in his user name, pretty sure he was a young guy, said he was gonna' write a book about his street adventures. Wonder how he's doing, or if he ever started that book.
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Posted: 7/12/2018 2:37:56 PM EST
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#HAMSTERDAM
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Posted: 7/12/2018 2:39:30 PM EST
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I wonder if TheDoctors308 is still on the force? |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 2:44:31 PM EST
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And? When they found out they had nothing on him they twisted/made up an excuse to arrest him/railroad him. They could have just said "catch you later" but didn't. They chose to play games. Hope they enjoyed it. The police were charged under the theory that the arrest was bad, which meant that the death was not an accident. the DA went to great lengths to explain that the knife was actually legal, even though it wasn't - she herself had been prosecuting knife cases that had been previously ignored. If Gray wouldn't have run, he wouldn't have been chased. And if he wouldn't have killed himself in the transport, the DA would likely have used it to put him away. How is it possible that the police *deserved* what happenned to him when they were doing what the mayor and DA wanted them to do ("clean up the streets") and then OTHER PEOPLE made decisions that had bad consequences? One can only stretch the "but for" test so far until it breaks. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 2:57:29 PM EST
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And? When they found out they had nothing on him they twisted/made up an excuse to arrest him/railroad him. They could have just said "catch you later" but didn't. They chose to play games. Hope they enjoyed it. (Not the innocent officers who got dragged into it.) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No, it wasn't. Known dealer, on probation, standing at one of the places where he operated. Cops pull over to talk, he ran. They did not know he had the knife until after they caught him, tackled him, and frisked him. They didn't pull over because they saw the outline of a knife in his pants. Mosby used the same logic you're going with, ignoring the city's laws and focusing on the state's laws, to attempt to springboard her career. She failed to secure a single conviction, even after granting immunity to multiple officers she thought could help her case (who turned into better witnesses for the defense in each instance). Instead she's being sued for withholding evidence and malicious prosecution by the acquitted and formerly accused officers. Just another day in Baltimore. Kharn |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 3:32:26 PM EST
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So what the fuck are we even paying them for then? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Make no mistake, YOU will still have police. Plenty of normal people will still have plenty of police in their lives, probably more than before now that the cops aren't fucking with criminals. If they are going to do this then they should look the other way when some citizens take out the trash but they won't and you know it. Security Theater. The problem is that many young men still hear the call to Serve. They are lured into the cesspool of modern "kermunitah policing" and then are served up as sacrifices on the altar of racial payback. That's the real scandal. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 3:55:25 PM EST
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#HAMSTERDAM 
I was going to post this too. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 4:45:21 PM EST
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No, they arrested them, and HE KILLED HIMSELF by intentionally smashing around in the paddy wagon to gin up a police brutality charge. Only he was wearing a neck brace from a previous neck injury, and he went a bit overboard. The police were charged under the theory that the arrest was bad, which meant that the death was not an accident. the DA went to great lengths to explain that the knife was actually legal, even though it wasn't - she herself had been prosecuting knife cases that had been previously ignored. If Gray wouldn't have run, he wouldn't have been chased. And if he wouldn't have killed himself in the transport, the DA would likely have used it to put him away. How is it possible that the police *deserved* what happenned to him when they were doing what the mayor and DA wanted them to do ("clean up the streets") and then OTHER PEOPLE made decisions that had bad consequences? One can only stretch the "but for" test so far until it breaks. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 4:53:21 PM EST
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You keep trying to act like you know the situation on the ground from reading the code alone from across the country. Maryland courts are heavily dependent on case law as well, in Baltimore, a spring requires no twisting or excuse. The courts and juries have repeatedly agreed assisted opening knives unintentionally fall (since they were invented or became popular much later, but meet the same definition) under Baltimore's switchblade law. Mosby used the same logic you're going with, ignoring the city's laws and focusing on the state's laws, to attempt to springboard her career. She failed to secure a single conviction, even after granting immunity to multiple officers she thought could help her case (who turned into better witnesses for the defense in each instance). Instead she's being sued for withholding evidence and malicious prosecution by the acquitted and formerly accused officers. Just another day in Baltimore. Kharn |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:06:44 PM EST
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Anyone remember the user name of the Baltimore cop who USED to regularly post here? Had a 762 in his user name, pretty sure he was a young guy, said he was gonna' write a book about his street adventures. Wonder how he's doing, or if he ever started that book. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:13:57 PM EST
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The police were charged for bs. Just like Grey was. Running is not a crime. If that knife is a crime then so are utility knives. After all how do they not contain "automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade" They clearly do have another device for opening and/or closing the blade. If there is bad case law then there is bad case law.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No, they arrested them, and HE KILLED HIMSELF by intentionally smashing around in the paddy wagon to gin up a police brutality charge. Only he was wearing a neck brace from a previous neck injury, and he went a bit overboard. The police were charged under the theory that the arrest was bad, which meant that the death was not an accident. the DA went to great lengths to explain that the knife was actually legal, even though it wasn't - she herself had been prosecuting knife cases that had been previously ignored. If Gray wouldn't have run, he wouldn't have been chased. And if he wouldn't have killed himself in the transport, the DA would likely have used it to put him away. How is it possible that the police *deserved* what happenned to him when they were doing what the mayor and DA wanted them to do ("clean up the streets") and then OTHER PEOPLE made decisions that had bad consequences? One can only stretch the "but for" test so far until it breaks. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:17:15 PM EST
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I posted the law they used I didn't ignore it. If they meet the definition then so do utility knives. If people cant read and don't understand sentence structure because they are illiterate that is on them. As far as the situation on the ground.....I know that officers charged a man with what should be an unconstitutional law and then tried to justify it because they don't like the guy. I have a hard time feeling sorry for officers being charged for bs when they are willing to charge others the same way. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:22:12 PM EST
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They didn't charge him, they arrested him. Big difference. And depending on the type of utility knife it would fall under the law. And the supreme Court has held that running from the police constitutes reasonable suspicion depending on the area and conditions. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:23:20 PM EST
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I posted the law they used I didn't ignore it. If they meet the definition then so do utility knives. If people cant read and don't understand sentence structure because they are illiterate that is on them. As far as the situation on the ground.....I know that officers charged a man with what should be an unconstitutional law and then tried to justify it because they don't like the guy. I have a hard time feeling sorry for officers being charged for bs when they are willing to charge others the same way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You keep trying to act like you know the situation on the ground from reading the code alone from across the country. Maryland courts are heavily dependent on case law as well, in Baltimore, a spring requires no twisting or excuse. The courts and juries have repeatedly agreed assisted opening knives unintentionally fall (since they were invented or became popular much later, but meet the same definition) under Baltimore's switchblade law. Mosby used the same logic you're going with, ignoring the city's laws and focusing on the state's laws, to attempt to springboard her career. She failed to secure a single conviction, even after granting immunity to multiple officers she thought could help her case (who turned into better witnesses for the defense in each instance). Instead she's being sued for withholding evidence and malicious prosecution by the acquitted and formerly accused officers. Just another day in Baltimore. Kharn Kharn |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:24:42 PM EST
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...I would rather have no police... |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:24:57 PM EST
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why anyone is surprised by this is beyond me.
if I was a cop in any of those areas I probably wouldn't stop ANY crime unless it was directly related to me or what I thought was an innocent victim. Why would you when the most likely outcome is the city and leadership toss you under the bus for doing your job. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:26:35 PM EST
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Baltimore Sun article on the difference State law: The distinction is the city code only requires a spring, the state law requires the presence of a button and a spring. In Baltimore, a knife design that includes a spring which acts on the blade is a switchblade and has been this way for years. Kharn Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cops get prosecuted for enforcing the law. Cops stop enforcing the law. Then crime is supposed to decrease while no one gets arrested because arrests (and cops) are racist. Instead, crime increases. Who could have seen that coming? Why it's almost as if people responded to rewards and punishments. Kharn (a) Possession or sale, etc., prohibited. It shall be unlawful for any person to sell, carry, or possess any knife with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade, commonly known as a switch-blade knife. Assisted opening knives are not commonly known as a "switch-blade knife" unless of course you are trying to railroad someone. State law: Code of Maryland, Section 4-105
(a) Prohibited. A person may not sell, barter, display, or offer to sell or barter: (1) a knife or a penknife having a blade that opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring, or other device in the handle of the knife, commonly called a switchblade knife or a switchblade penknife; Kharn He's already made up his mind about what really happened. Take your facts and go elsewhere. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:32:44 PM EST
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How does the spring in a utility knife act on the blade to open or close the blade? In the ones I own, the spring acts on the lock mechanism to prevent movement of the blade and the user works against it to move the blade. Kharn |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:36:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're wasting your time. This is a topic he's passionate about. He's already made up his mind about what really happened. Take your facts and go elsewhere. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:38:11 PM EST
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I have people ask me what they should go see in Baltimore when in town. I say Annapolis |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:44:27 PM EST
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Fixt for you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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...I would rather have no police... |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:49:37 PM EST
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I loved following THIS sight during and after the FG incident!
https://homicides.news.baltimoresun.com/ The "victim" demographics are very telling. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:49:52 PM EST
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“Cops are doing as requested: lessening racial disparity, lessening complaints, lessening police-involved shootings. All those numbers are just great right now, and if those are your metrics of success, we’re winning." Then what's the problem? Oh yeah, all those dead people.
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:51:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would think running from the police who are attempting to detain you is a crime no matter what state you are in. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:52:52 PM EST
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I loved following THIS sight during and after the FG incident! https://homicides.news.baltimoresun.com/ The "victim" demographics are very telling. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:52:54 PM EST
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Good.
Let people have the police protection they desire, and deserve. |
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