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Posted: 5/11/2018 8:13:12 PM EDT
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F250
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Posted: 5/11/2018 8:14:32 PM EDT
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Honda S2000 AP2 (2004-2009)...
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Posted: 5/11/2018 8:14:56 PM EDT
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Lotus exige? |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 8:15:20 PM EDT
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M3 Or a 135i could be had for less. |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 8:23:31 PM EDT
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2019 Miata.
It's getting bumped to 181 hp courtesy of lighter pistons and rods, a new crank, larger ports, and a new cam. |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 8:23:54 PM EDT
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In terms of new best drivers car in that price range. The Miata has to be the top choice. The BRZ maybe a great car, but the Miata is going to be quicker at everything except maybe top end speed? The BRZ being the more practical of the two.
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Posted: 5/11/2018 8:27:43 PM EDT
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In terms of new best drivers car in that price range. The Miata has to be the top choice. The BRZ maybe a great car, but the Miata is going to be quicker at everything except maybe top end speed? The BRZ being the more practical of the two. I can not think of a more boring car to drive here in Kansas than a Miata...........where the roads are flat and straight and you navigate by compass settings.......it's the land of the SL500 |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 8:28:20 PM EDT
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New- Ford Focus ST Used- Honda S2000 (although sadly, they quit making them in 2009) http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VPqUmcRWG5g/Tqvyqgtcu5I/AAAAAAAAGNI/EWPCXy0jUFQ/s1600/honda-s2000-images.jpg |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 9:06:18 PM EDT
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Are we talking about lap times on a road track? Speed, handling and braking? Than yes; a properly configured GTI is a better drivers car than a GT86/BRZ. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I never said anything about fast. I said best drivers car, I have a fast car. |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 9:07:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not for anywhere near $25k... an Elise however could be had for a bit more. Quote HistoryQuoted: Not for anywhere near $25k... an Elise however could be had for a bit more.  Quoted:
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In terms of new best drivers car in that price range. The Miata has to be the top choice. The BRZ maybe a great car, but the Miata is going to be quicker at everything except maybe top end speed? The BRZ being the more practical of the two. I can not think of a more boring car to drive here in Kansas than a Miata...........where the roads are flat and straight and you navigate by compass settings.......it's the land of the SL500 I hate boxer engines, but being 6' 2" I bet I would fit in the GT86 better than the Miata (with the top up).... |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 9:12:48 PM EDT
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thinking outs a competition between the Toyota GT86/Subaru BRZ and Mazda Miata, any other contenders at that price point? |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 9:14:31 PM EDT
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Yes we are talking that, but fuck FWD so that conclusion is still a firm no. AWD or RWD only. I already have a turbo AWD 5 speed project car, I am looking for a low maintenance stock car with A/C that's still fun, and not FWD...and honestly, I think not turbocharged (I never thought I'd say that, because I was once "Turbo everything!" And I still love turbocharged engines, but... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never said anything about fast. I said best drivers car, I have a fast car. Rev-happy NA engine with typical Honda reliability, and not even a timing belt to worry about (the cams are run by chains). We've had ours for many years now (first year model) and it's been fantastic, and it'll never be sold.....it's really that good. |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 9:19:12 PM EDT
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OK, this makes the S2000 an even clearer choice. Rev-happy NA engine with typical Honda reliability, and not even a timing belt to worry about (the cams are run by chains). We've had ours for many years now (first year model) and it's been fantastic, and it'll never be sold.....it's really that good. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never said anything about fast. I said best drivers car, I have a fast car. Rev-happy NA engine with typical Honda reliability, and not even a timing belt to worry about (the cams are run by chains). We've had ours for many years now (first year model) and it's been fantastic, and it'll never be sold.....it's really that good. Okay... this has my attention. Hey look at that  Subaru BRZ vs Honda S2000 vs Mazda MX-5 vs Fiat 124 Wow, the S2000 weighs more than I'd thought. That's heavier than my AWD turbo Talon.... (because I reduced it's weight to like 2780lb from 3100..still all it's interior minus the passenger seat too) |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 9:23:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But don't you HAVE to rev the piss out of those to have any decent power? Or is that a bit over hyped? I much prefer the styling of the S2000 that's for sure. |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 9:25:11 PM EDT
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Okay... this has my attention. |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 9:25:59 PM EDT
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Bottom of the barrel air cooled 911
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Posted: 5/11/2018 9:27:35 PM EDT
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But don't you HAVE to rev the piss out of those to have any decent power? Or is that a bit over hyped? I much prefer the styling of the S2000 that's for sure. Okay... this has my attention. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never said anything about fast. I said best drivers car, I have a fast car. Rev-happy NA engine with typical Honda reliability, and not even a timing belt to worry about (the cams are run by chains). We've had ours for many years now (first year model) and it's been fantastic, and it'll never be sold.....it's really that good. Okay... this has my attention. Over 6K rpm's (VTEC kicks in, yo ;-) it runs like a raped ape up to 9,000 rpm's! The 2000-2003's with the 2.0L engine rev to 9K, the 2004-2009's with the 2.2L rev a bit lower but have a bit more torque.......neither version sucks, and they are ALL 6-speed manuals ;^D |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 9:35:47 PM EDT
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Soon as the guy mentioned the S2000 is the only one of the cars that still has a mechanical throttle body. That sold me, I FUCKING HATE DRIVE BY WIRE THROTTLE!!! HATE IT!!!!
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Posted: 5/11/2018 9:40:10 PM EDT
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Matt Farah was just talking about this with a guy on his podcast. Camaro SS 1LE. Not the ZL1 1LE, the SS. Supposed to be bad ass.
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Posted: 5/11/2018 9:44:16 PM EDT
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Soon as the guy mentioned the S2000 is the only one of the cars that still has a mechanical throttle body. That sold me, I FUCKING HATE DRIVE BY WIRE THROTTLE!!! HATE IT!!!! Oh, and that yellow CR version you linked to says it's a 2005.....and the real CR's were only made in 2008-2009. |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 9:49:02 PM EDT
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Ruh Roe, I believe that the later "AP2" S2000's had DBY (the earlier "AP1's" did NOT). Oh, and that yellow CR version you linked to says it's a 2005.....and the real CR's were only made in 2008-2009. |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 9:51:11 PM EDT
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Easy..
S2000 Or Z4m |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 9:51:19 PM EDT
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Mustang Ecoboost under $21,000
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Posted: 5/11/2018 9:53:26 PM EDT
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Hell I might should make an offer on my friends modified FX-7, he never drives the damn thing...Makes just over 400whp on a single turbo conversion and mild street port job. But that's going sort of the opposite of reliable daily....
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Posted: 5/11/2018 9:58:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI don't really want whatever I get to be turbocharged, turbo's are awesome, but they're also hot. And tempting to turn up the boost, first it's just 2-3psi, then it's exhaust, then a fuel pump, regulator, injectors and retune, then it's a bigger intercooler...etc. I am curious how much the Ecoboost mustang weighs though.
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Posted: 5/11/2018 10:03:16 PM EDT
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WRX didn't make page 1?
 
*Edit, I see turbos are out. |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 10:27:30 PM EDT
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Hell I might should make an offer on my friends modified FX-7, he never drives the damn thing...Makes just over 400whp on a single turbo conversion and mild street port job. But that's going sort of the opposite of reliable daily.... https://i.imgur.com/ZThw3uE.jpg 
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Posted: 5/11/2018 10:27:33 PM EDT
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WRX didn't make page 1?
*Edit, I see turbos are out. |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 10:52:16 PM EDT
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How about a B7 Audi S4? 4.2 NA V8, Quattro AWD, 6 Spd, good handling. Cousin had one and I always lusted after that car.
...or shit, an RS4 if you can find one! Or an RS5 for that matter (one of the most beautiful non-exotics on the road, IMO) |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 11:02:34 PM EDT
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2006-2011 BMW 335i with M-Sport suspension, either coupe or sedan. My 2007 335i sedan was the best car I've ever owned. Like a go-kart with a rocket engine. Fun, fast, reliable with a twin-turbo 3L straight-six engine and a 6-speed manual that was to die for. The generation after that went to electric-assisted steering and lost the famous BMW steering feel.
not mine but identical: 
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Posted: 5/11/2018 11:09:35 PM EDT
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C6
The Rx7 looks good for a LS swap 
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Posted: 5/11/2018 11:25:14 PM EDT
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I'd go with the S2K, e46 M3, or an Intega Type R.
All require the driver to adjust to the car's characteristics and when that's done, it's pure bliss. They may not be the quickest but the integration of humanity and machine is something beautiful. |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 11:35:28 PM EDT
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Dooo iiiit!!!!!
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Posted: 5/11/2018 11:52:07 PM EDT
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C6 The Rx7 looks good for a LS swap |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 11:57:06 PM EDT
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I’m going to say Miata or the Fiat sister car. I’ve long said the 86/BRZ was a let down as it needs more power but it’s a fun car to drive at legal speeds. At least with the Fiat/Mazda you be getting the top down experience and IMO it’s a better car.
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Posted: 5/11/2018 11:59:47 PM EDT
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Three year old S3
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Posted: 5/12/2018 12:05:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I tried so hard to get him to do the LS swap that was about the same cost as rebuilding the stock engine and upgrading it. (since he paid someone else to do it all) But nope, he said if it ever "pops" again, he would probably swap it then, but wanted to see what a powerful rotary was like. I was like "It's like, no torque, no torque bad gas mileage, unreliable, hard to start, BAM LOTS OF HI RPM POWER!....like a 2 cycle" I harass him about the evil LS swaps all the time. It’ll be fun when I finally get my MR2 turbo swapped. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 12:12:47 AM EDT
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Dacia Sandero
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Posted: 5/12/2018 12:30:17 AM EDT
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Soon as the guy mentioned the S2000 is the only one of the cars that still has a mechanical throttle body. That sold me, I FUCKING HATE DRIVE BY WIRE THROTTLE!!! HATE IT!!!! |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 5:21:49 AM EDT
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You and me both. I think the drive by wire steering is just as bad or worse. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Soon as the guy mentioned the S2000 is the only one of the cars that still has a mechanical throttle body. That sold me, I FUCKING HATE DRIVE BY WIRE THROTTLE!!! HATE IT!!!! |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 5:25:54 AM EDT
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GTI, Focus ST, Abarth 500, Fiesta ST |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 5:34:12 AM EDT
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Have you looked at a Mustang? Not quite in the same class as a Miata or BRZ but they still nice. I remember reading about a professional track test years ago that a car magazine/website put on between a performance package V6 Mustang and a BRZ and the Mustang won but supposedly the BRZ was not far behind and was supposedly more fun to drive.
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Posted: 5/12/2018 5:37:03 AM EDT
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Looks like you are stuck with a BRZ. I'm 6' and found the Miata a bit cramped.
The S2000. Brilliant car, sucks that it a vert only. I live in the NE GA area. If I had to pick a naturally aspirated performance car at this price range, it would be a mustang (with IFS) or older S5 with the V8. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 6:22:53 AM EDT
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Porsche Cayman S.
 There’s four near me under $25k. Didn’t bother looking for the non-S model. There was one for sale on “bringatrailer” for $25,500. 2007 with a 2007 911~3.6L/6spd running gear swapped. LSX/T56(or TR-6060) swapped FD RX7’s can be found also, norotors forum. Mild to wild, basic N/A swap retains 50/50 weight distro, and can have a lower curb weight. Super easy 450-500rwhp. It’s common to run 27-30mpg also. Nothing else will compare to the performance/mileage, unless you lsx swap something else lightweight(M3, BRZ). You probably know all this already. And unlike the S2k, Miata, at 6’2” you can still fit in a FD. Plus for corner carving, 275’s fit at all corners on stock body, dozens of JDM brands for suspension/chassis parts. Rocket bunny widebody + 315/325’s? Real aero is out there.. Commonly referred to as the 3/4 scale vette. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 6:25:01 AM EDT
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02-04' C5 ZO6 |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 6:40:00 AM EDT
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02-04' C5 ZO6 |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 6:44:16 AM EDT
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Honda S2000 AP2 (2004-2009)... The Elise is to the s2000 as the s2000 is to the Miata. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 8:21:57 AM EDT
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how good are you at replacing apex seals and throwing tons of money at cars Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hell I might should make an offer on my friends modified FX-7, he never drives the damn thing...Makes just over 400whp on a single turbo conversion and mild street port job. But that's going sort of the opposite of reliable daily.... https://i.imgur.com/ZThw3uE.jpg Quoted:
Quoted: I tried so hard to get him to do the LS swap that was about the same cost as rebuilding the stock engine and upgrading it. (since he paid someone else to do it all) But nope, he said if it ever "pops" again, he would probably swap it then, but wanted to see what a powerful rotary was like. I was like "It's like, no torque, no torque bad gas mileage, unreliable, hard to start, BAM LOTS OF HI RPM POWER!....like a 2 cycle" I harass him about the evil LS swaps all the time. It’ll be fun when I finally get my MR2 turbo swapped. Quoted: You and me both. I think the drive by wire steering is just as bad or worse. 
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Posted: 5/12/2018 8:25:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/12/2018 8:26:40 AM EDT
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thinking outs a competition between the Toyota GT86/Subaru BRZ and Mazda Miata, any other contenders at that price point?
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