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Posted: 7/6/2017 10:12:30 AM EDT
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I was grossly oversimplifying. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.... and get back to the real point of Jesus' teachings: Worship God in the manner in which Jesus taught us, and be good to each other.  
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Posted: 7/6/2017 10:12:32 AM EDT
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Oh no, you've opened up that whole free will can of worms.  |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 10:14:44 AM EDT
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I'll just quote whoever it was who said even John Calvin wouldn't be a Calvinist. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh no, you've opened up that whole free will can of worms. |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 10:25:50 AM EDT
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This thread...wow. First of all, there is a religion sub forum. Second, are people here actually speculating on this made up fairytale as if it actually occurred? --SNIP-- The rest of your post - seems to have been already addressed so I'll pass on comment 
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Posted: 7/6/2017 10:38:00 AM EDT
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90% of the content posted in GD *could* fit in a sub-forum elsewhere on this board. I thought it was an interesting topic/ question so I posted it here. The rest of your post - seems to have been already addressed so I'll pass on comment taught but cannot prove those facts going back to their prophets Huxley and Darwin...at least Jesus' miracles were witnessed by thousands of reliable witnesses... If those of the Christian faith needs be relegated to "the religion forum" even after GD starts a religious history topic to comment on... then atheists should certainly have their own forum to park on of course they'd soon be lonely and venture back to GD to make with more inane comments...imo separate but equal
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Posted: 7/6/2017 10:41:09 AM EDT
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David was diminutive even by his family's standards...being the runt of the liter....Saul was considered to be well above average in height and a great warrior yet Goliath defeated every single one of
Saul's warriors who dared to go up against him... Saul put his own armor on David who was swimming in both armor and helmet...sounds like he could barely lift Saul's sword...Instead he opted to his trusty sling with which he chases off many lions and other predators defending his father's sheep... |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 10:56:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI honestly don't think so.
Evangelicals nominated Trump over Cruz during the nominations. Weekly-attenders and the SBC wanted Cruz. Trump is pretty much antithetical to Evangelicalism. It was the non-weekly attenders that went for Trump. The non-weekly attenders (whom identify as Evangelicals) beat the weekly-attenders. It was only after he was nominated, that he threw meat (Supreme Court seat re: abortion, Pence) out for the weekly-attenders. Still, the actual Evangelicals (weekly-attenders) aren't the king-makers they once were. |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 11:03:52 AM EDT
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"The champion, the Philistine of Gath, Goliath by name...David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and with a stone and struck the Philistine and killed him." 1 Samuel 17:23, 50
"And there was again war with the Philistines at Gob; and Elhanan the son of Joareoregim, the Bethlehemite, slew Goliath the Gittite." 2 Samuel 21:19 |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 11:16:59 AM EDT
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With the obverse side of that same brush Atheists, Marxists, Secular Humanists, Deists insist that their beliefs are not faith but facts...based upon faith they have in those that taught but cannot prove those facts going back to their prophets Huxley and Darwin...at least Jesus' miracles were witnessed by thousands of reliable witnesses... If those of the Christian faith needs be relegated to "the religion forum" even after GD starts a religious history topic to comment on... then atheists should certainly have their own forum to park on of course they'd soon be lonely and venture back to GD to make with more inane comments...imo separate but equal |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 11:42:33 AM EDT
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They have the same argumental chromosome as liberals .. it's no wonder they are usually one-in the same. They just can't stand for you to be confident in your beliefs and leave you alone in your peace. That hole that can't be filled? , feels more full when they are making fun of you. Just show me your Jesus, we shall praise the Lord, LOL. |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 11:57:41 AM EDT
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Quite the contrary, most of the time it's the Christians are insecure about their faith, need someone to agree with them by telling me I need Jesus. Just show me your Jesus, we shall praise the Lord, LOL. |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 12:35:21 PM EDT
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Trying to keep someone you love out of hell isn't exactly based on insecurity. I don't even know you but If I saw you about to step out in front of a train - I'd snatch you back to safety.. That's not based on insecurity, it's love for another human being with a soul. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quite the contrary, most of the time it's the Christians are insecure about their faith, need someone to agree with them by telling me I need Jesus. Just show me your Jesus, we shall praise the Lord, LOL. |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 12:36:50 PM EDT
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Trying to keep someone you love out of hell isn't exactly based on insecurity. I don't even know you but If I saw you about to step out in front of a train - I'd snatch you back to safety.. That's not based on insecurity, it's love for another human being with a soul. But where this imaginary hell and train were you talking about. The difference between I and fellow Christians is I agree Jesus is your lord and savior, but majority of the Christians don't agree I don't have or need or care about one. |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 12:44:07 PM EDT
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They have the same argumental chromosome as liberals .. it's no wonder they are usually one-in the same. They just can't stand for you to be confident in your beliefs and leave you alone in your peace. That hole that can't be filled? , feels more full when they are making fun of you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With the obverse side of that same brush Atheists, Marxists, Secular Humanists, Deists insist that their beliefs are not faith but facts...based upon faith they have in those that taught but cannot prove those facts going back to their prophets Huxley and Darwin...at least Jesus' miracles were witnessed by thousands of reliable witnesses... If those of the Christian faith needs be relegated to "the religion forum" even after GD starts a religious history topic to comment on... then atheists should certainly have their own forum to park on of course they'd soon be lonely and venture back to GD to make with more inane comments...imo separate but equal You cannot prove anything in science. It's not how it works (we don't KNOW absolutely that smoking causes cancer, germs cause disease or that the Earth is round-ish). You can have good objective evidence though (which there is for evolution by natural selection, etc.). "at least Jesus' miracles were witnessed by thousands of reliable witnesses..." There were many "miracles" witnessed by many people. Whole crowds/cities saw the sun moving around erratically in the sky, etc. You can get David Blaine to do some magic tricks today and people will literally believe he's in contact with actual spirits, it's actual magic, etc. One has to apply critical thinking (not believing until there's good objective evidence, not saying "I don't know, so therefor it's X", etc.) |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 1:58:22 PM EDT
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how about we drop the religious argument on both sides. neither of you will change the others mind and get this back on topic.
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Posted: 7/6/2017 6:22:22 PM EDT
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David was diminutive even by his family's standards...being the runt of the liter....Saul was considered to be well above average in height and a great warrior yet Goliath defeated every single one of Saul's warriors who dared to go up against him... Saul put his own armor on David who was swimming in both armor and helmet...sounds like he could barely lift Saul's sword... |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 6:44:13 PM EDT
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We are not really told much about the size of David, but there are clues. I highly doubt David "could barely lift Saul's sword" given that he apparently had no trouble using Goliath's sword to cut his head off. If Goliath's armor and weapons are as big and heavy as described in the bible, it is quite likely that David wasn't a runt like pop culture suggests. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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David was diminutive even by his family's standards...being the runt of the liter....Saul was considered to be well above average in height and a great warrior yet Goliath defeated every single one of Saul's warriors who dared to go up against him... Saul put his own armor on David who was swimming in both armor and helmet...sounds like he could barely lift Saul's sword... |
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