I am good with every occupation not being taxed on income. It is not like the government is a good steward of the money.

The living wage stuff is driven by unions.

Repeal the 16th Amendment is the solution.

Good, time for the younger generation/s to feel the pain of what they voted for.

One? I can name a dozen professions where tax free income is a way of life. That’s why .gov would love to get rid of cash.

This..

I don't give cash tips, credit card only hoping that they will be taxed on their tip income.  The articles on this topic say even then taxes aren't being paid on tips given by credit card.

I've known several waitresses that made a killing in tips, and none of it was reported as income.  Why should a waitress making 60-80,000 or more not pay taxes on their tips when the kid at Ace Hardware or Home Depot pays taxes on their income with a much lower salary.

He’s going after the Bernie bros

White knighting for the government. What a clown.

Perhaps it is because they did not want the price of a meal to increase.

Perhaps because they considered it a gift, and as such it was well under the reporting limits.

Perhaps it was because they considered the tax code immoral.

Perhaps they were confused on the subject of nullification and thought it applied outside the court room.

Perhaps it is because they didn't like you and wished to personally offend you.

Perhaps you don’t know what To Insure Prompt Service is? It is not a gift. The customer is getting something in return. A group of us often went to a few different restaurants. We tipped well and generally had the same server unless they were off for some reason. We always had the best service.  Maybe you can figure out why?

I tip in cash. Tax this fool

It's not white knighting for the government if they are signing up for thousands of dollars in taxpayer funded welfare benefits while making $50,000. Would you be ok with an engineer with a full time job getting welfare, a free phone, food stamps, EITC check, and housing assistance paid for by taxpayers? If it's not ok for the engineer to do it why should the plate toter get to rape taxpayers at gunpoint by proxy?

Stupid argument. An engineer on welfare? What kind of straw man bullshit is that?

Limit the government excess and handouts, don’t help them collect more tax dollars. I’d be ok with everybody getting fucking nothing, which is exactly what they are entitled to. Fuck the revenuers, and anybody who can get around their theft is a winner in my book. Snitches get stitches. You call the FATF when you hear rounds going off too fast? Probably.

At any rate, the Free Shit Army pales in comparison to the bullion shipped off to money laundering operations like Iraq and Ukraine. Wake up.

Hmmm.  Go after uber rich people who have the means to force the irs to spend lots of time and manpower trying to audit them or go after the small fish who do not.

No, it doesn't. Not counting debt service SS, Medicaid, and Medicare spending blow defense spending out of the water. We spend most of our budget on socialized medicine and wealth redistribution.

Although I’ve talked about it more than once, I’ve been the restaurant thing for quite a while, from reading some comments I see alot of guessing or arguing over how tips are reported and such, there is a huge variety in how individual restaurants and related businesses handle tip reporting

I have worked in around 11 or so restaurants and/or related businesses over the last 15 years, I have done everything from wash dishes to bartend, manage and even part ownership, in 4 different states

Basically the smaller the operation, the more tip money you generally take home without having to report, the larger the operation generally you are in some way shape or form usually forced to report something

In some restaurants, typically larger, the point of sale (computer) will auto report 18% of what your total sales were, i fact this is becoming very typical

Some restaurants will auto report all credit card tips and let you get away with option to report cash,
with plastic paying for everything now most of your tips get reported and you pay taxes on them paycheck to paycheck
This is also very common

The places that a bartender can get away without paying taxes is gonna be some type of mom and pop place, typically small group or less of owners and a few bars at most, over the years a restaurant in trouble with the irs at some point can be asked to report tips and even on small scale can be forcing servers to pay full taxes on income.

The irs can and will chase down former staff at a later date with expectations of paying back taxes, from back when I worked at the hard rock casino in Lake Tahoe, my 2nd year there we were all offered a sheet of paper, basically was a opt in or out of reporting and paying taxes on tips, I don’t remember specifics of it, I opted into reporting and paying, a ton of people did not and a few years down the road the irs caught up to a bunch of them owing thousands in back taxes
Morons were even blaming the hard rock on the Facebook over it

Truth is most tipped staff is paying taxes on tips
And what I preach to my young co workers is report the tips and pay taxes on it so you can get a loan, if your a minimum wage guy on paper your not gonna get far with the bank when you need to buy a home

Just make tipping a felony, problem solved

Taxation is theft.

Especially income tax.

This... but it will never happen

Hmmm... yeah, they'll figure out ways to beat this, and those affected would probably never hold the perpetrators responsible

I'm sure the ROI on chasing after the local bartender is going to be extraordinary. Getting rid of a single line of pork in the budget would do more than going after a half broke, unsophisticated taxpayer. This needs to be shared far and wide. Get the young libs worked up.

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Why do you hate freedom? And why would you begrudge those in one of the lowest paid occupations a few tax-free dollars? America was built on free enterprise.

One of my former co-workers complained that he had to pay the taxes on his waitress wife's earnings.

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and the majority of them will fall for the same lies and vote for dems in the next election cycle

There is something to be said for that aspect of it. But on a personal and also business level, a little extra "cash in hand" is always nice.

Do you give the same generous TIP when you get bad service? You To Insure Prompt Service  so it is payment for service and not a gift.

By your logic no company should pay taxes on their profits since everything they sold was paid for by money already taxed.

people that voted for the left are stupid. Do you really think for a second they are going to "tax the rich" lol

Tipping should be banned. Straight pay.

Watch the lizards scream

I get that servers "should " be paying taxes on their income .

For the most part folks doing the tipping don't care .

Restaurant owners like the low pay they can give their workers because of tips .

Folks getting the tips (and shoveing them into their pockets) for sure don't want to pay more taxes .

Until
we get to a totally cashless society I can't see how things are going to change much.

Setting up some kind of huge federal tax police and all the paperwork to go with it is going to cost $17 for every $1 they collect but that is about how stupid the politicians are .

"Law of unintended consequences" They will succeed in promoting and increasing the underground economy, i.e. "black market."

I quit drinking 6 years ago but back when I did I’d say 87 to 100% of the bartenders/ barmaids I talked to supported democrat candidates.
SUCK IT!

Yeah let them all get their tips as "gifts" and not claim them...

Then listen to them scream when they don't have the claimable income to apply for a car loan, a mortgage, to meet rental minimum income requirements...

That's been my idea.  Hell it even covers the illegal aliens.  Win win.

Because it’s theft?

QFT

You didn't answer the question.

Why is it ok for some people to cheat on their taxes but not other people?  And why should the rest of us go overboard to make sure that enforcement of existing tax laws don't touch certain classes of people?

Its not as though people are finding a loophole here.  Underreporting income and knowingly filing a false tax return can get you into trouble.  These people voted for anal exams, they just didn't think they would be the ones bending over.

Oh we know they're coming after us, that goes without saying. It's just delicious schadenfreude to watch the the folks who overwhelmingly voted for this get nailed

I should make this a copypasta because I am continually amazed by the number of freedom-hating rule-followers, socialists, blue-liners, glowies, etc., etc. on a website that, on the surface, is conservatively focused.

Here are multiple posters advocating for the IRS to clamp down on what, for the most part, are low-wage entry-level workers.

Just a thought: that cash money generated in the "underground economy" is a small but possibly significant part of the economy as a whole. I'm sure 100% of that money goes right back into the economy for goods and services.

The dems cater to those people and want them to remain dependent on Big Daddy Government to help them somehow. Meanwhile Big Daddy is shaking the coins out of their piggybanks.

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