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Quoted: Are you saying only people that have loans situations can potentially change? If they don’t have loans, their situation remains the same? And for people that don’t have loans, if their situations change, should they get a free pass? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Sure But you’re saying no one’s financial situation changed in the last 3 yrs? Are you saying only people that have loans situations can potentially change? If they don’t have loans, their situation remains the same? And for people that don’t have loans, if their situations change, should they get a free pass? You’re taking my quote out of context Quoted: Or they can work harder and pay their FUCKING bills. Agreed Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm guessing they could or were affording the loans, but instead if saving money or reducing expenses, they increased expenses (new car, fancy phone) with the money they had been using to pay loans so now they're under water. Or lost their job, got divorced, spouse died, didn’t get a raise and 36m of Biden inflation ate up the $450/m they were spending on their loan Welcome to life, It ain't fair and doesn't care about your problems. Lets just give everybody, everything. I agree entirely |
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Quoted: Roughly half of the 75% of borrowers confident that they would have their student debt forgiven under the blocked plan spent money they otherwise would not have, the Intelligent.com survey said. View Quote Wasn't this kinda the problem in the first place? |
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So, they're in a "real bind" because they're now required to pay debt they voluntarily signed up for?
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Quoted: Sure But you’re saying no one’s financial situation changed in the last 3 yrs? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Roughly half of the 75% of borrowers confident that they would have their student debt forgiven under the blocked plan spent money they otherwise would not have, the Intelligent.com survey said. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Sure But you’re saying no one’s financial situation changed in the last 3 yrs? Roughly half of the 75% of borrowers confident that they would have their student debt forgiven under the blocked plan spent money they otherwise would not have, the Intelligent.com survey said. Sucks to suck And Bidenflation is real |
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It seems that many took the loans believing they would not need to pay
them back, and now they are upset that they have to keep their word. |
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Quoted: Sure But you’re saying no one’s financial situation changed in the last 3 yrs? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: If they couldn't afford the loan, why the fuck did they agree to the loan in the first place? Sure But you’re saying no one’s financial situation changed in the last 3 yrs? That's life. According to everything I've seen, employers cannot find workers and (starting) salaries have increased 50%. Also, these bozos overspent--expecting other people to pick up after them. Time to grow up, don't ya think? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Or lost their job, got divorced, spouse died, didn’t get a raise and 36m of Biden inflation ate up the $450/m they were spending on their loan Bidenflation is real. And it affects everyone, from entitled borrowers who throw money at avocado toast instead of loans to the bus driver who didn’t go to college. If people read the article, many chose to spend money on other things with the assumption their financial obligations would be waived. This behavior will continue as long as they are never forced to grow up. But look who’s in charge, it’s no wonder no one thinks they have to pay back their loans. Once again those financially responsible in the middle class get screwed. |
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Quoted: If they couldn't afford the loan, why the fuck did they agree to the loan in the first place? View Quote That’s not entirely fair. I agree it is their responsibility but these are kids taking out massive amounts of debt under the advice of terrible adults, usually people in education that stand to profit from this financial burden. No 18 year old has a concept of what that much debt is like or how to pay it off. |
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They assumed, then went retarded on the assumption.
The debt NEVER went away. I am all out of sympathy. |
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Quoted: That’s not entirely fair. I agree it is their responsibility but these are kids taking out massive amounts of debt under the advice of terrible adults, usually people in education that stand to profit from this financial burden. No 18 year old has a concept of what that much debt is like or how to pay it off. View Quote You only start talking to "people in education that stand to profit" once you begin looking at schools. I attended many college expos with my kids. Recruiters arent shaking these young people down. They WANT to be there. If a student can't do simple algebra and calculate interest rates and loan costs....maybe that person isn't ready for higher learning. This was explained to my kids before a dollar was ever spent. It's not hard to understand how we got here. We have an entire generation of people that have been coddled and think they walk on water and can do no wrong. And when shit goes sidewards, they look for someone to bail them out. It's as simple as that. We're training people to rely on government as their parents. That is dangerous and un-American |
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A video (YT short) I watched, earlier today, dealing with this subject...
https://youtube.com/shorts/ys4qOPbiw40?feature=share |
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Roughly half of the 75% of borrowers confident that they would have their student debt forgiven under the blocked plan spent money they otherwise would not have, the Intelligent.com survey said. View Quote Displaying an obvious acumen for risk taking... |
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Quoted: Too bad we can't repo an education or can we? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: So my truck won't get repod? I won't get evicted? Cause that's kinda what has happened for decades. Don't pay, the stuff you are borrowing get's ganked. or can we? What could we do with a PHD in underwater basket weaving? |
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Quoted: You’re taking my quote out of context Agreed I agree entirely View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Sure But you’re saying no one’s financial situation changed in the last 3 yrs? Are you saying only people that have loans situations can potentially change? If they don’t have loans, their situation remains the same? And for people that don’t have loans, if their situations change, should they get a free pass? You’re taking my quote out of context Quoted: Or they can work harder and pay their FUCKING bills. Agreed Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm guessing they could or were affording the loans, but instead if saving money or reducing expenses, they increased expenses (new car, fancy phone) with the money they had been using to pay loans so now they're under water. Or lost their job, got divorced, spouse died, didn’t get a raise and 36m of Biden inflation ate up the $450/m they were spending on their loan Welcome to life, It ain't fair and doesn't care about your problems. Lets just give everybody, everything. I agree entirely We've known for months that loan that loan repayment was coming back. Plenty of time for those who were in trouble to figure their shit out. |
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Quoted: Pay up or get lobotomized. No welfare or any other financial help either. Bet there would be a few that would take the offer. But........who would notice the difference? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Too bad we can't repo an education or can we? Pay up or get lobotomized. No welfare or any other financial help either. Bet there would be a few that would take the offer. But........who would notice the difference? They may have already undergone that procedure. |
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USSC just keeps getting between Biden and his buying his reelection, shocking.
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People are willing to die on this hill to own the libs. It's a $10k relief, not complete loan forgiveness.
But don't let this distract you from the fact that Trump and the Retardicans agreed to shut down the economy and printed twice the amount the projected cost of student debt relief. |
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Roughly half of the 75% of borrowers confident that they would have their student debt forgiven under the blocked plan spent money they otherwise would not have, the Intelligent.com survey said. View Quote Seems like maybe they shouldn't have trusted the government, and spent money they should have been saving, based on said governments promises. I award no sympathy points. |
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$10K forgiveness? We paid for both our kids college educations entirely out of pocket. How about a $20K tax credit?
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I’ll pay mine, but the complaints I hear from college friends aren’t entirely invalid. We’re sending billions of dollars to other countries while the dementia patient destroys our economy devalues our currency and increases cost of living. My student loan payments were annoying before Covid, but with the inflation and additional costs of raising kids, it is now a knife in the side. I’ll encourage my children to skip college and go to trade school. I’d rather spend 100k to set them up for success with tools or a business.
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Quoted: If they couldn't afford the loan, why the fuck did they agree to the loan in the first place? View Quote Im just gonna argue your point, but student loans are not given out on a basis of whether the student has a projected ability to pay them off. They are given out similar to how oprah gives out books. The process should be more difficult. That said, pay off your loans... |
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Maybe this time they at least learned they can't trust the government will come through when it promises give-aways, or at all. They'll probably all vote for Trump next year.
Nah, it's all his fault because he stacked the Court. |
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Quoted: Seems like maybe they shouldn't have trusted the government, and spent money they should have been saving, based on said governments promises. I award no sympathy points. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Roughly half of the 75% of borrowers confident that they would have their student debt forgiven under the blocked plan spent money they otherwise would not have, the Intelligent.com survey said. Seems like maybe they shouldn't have trusted the government, and spent money they should have been saving, based on said governments promises. I award no sympathy points. Old folks used to say all the time "Don't count your chickens before they hatch." These goddamn fools should have listened to the voices of experience, instead of continuing to believe in Santa Claus. |
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Quoted: I’ll pay mine, but the complaints I hear from college friends aren’t entirely invalid. We’re sending billions of dollars to other countries while the dementia patient destroys our economy devalues our currency and increases cost of living. My student loan payments were annoying before Covid, but with the inflation and additional costs of raising kids, it is now a knife in the side. I’ll encourage my children to skip college and go to trade school. I’d rather spend 100k to set them up for success with tools or a business. View Quote We've sent billions overseas for decades, nothing new, and not an excuse to not pay for your education. That being said, yes, US military power has made global trade possible and it's paid for by the US taxpayer, who gets little in return aside from cheap foreign goods. Europe subsidized higher education to help their people to be competitive in this new economy, America didn't. Nobody forced anyone to go to college either. So, the working taxpayer has to fund the military, and pay for Hunter's coke, as well as support the livelihood of the non working, non taxpayers, and now also has to cover the debts of kids who went to college for fields that don't pay enough in wages to simultaneously pay off the loans and live a cush life. Fuck that whole system. Fuck USGOV, fuck globalism, fuck Marxism, fuck socialism, fuck the intelligentsia, fuck the whole higher education racket. I'm so tired of giving a day a week+ to this beast. But hey, did you see you can get a 50" TV for $500? So awesome. |
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Quoted: People are willing to die on this hill to own the libs. It's a $10k relief, not complete loan forgiveness. But don't let this distract you from the fact that Trump and the Retardicans agreed to shut down the economy and printed twice the amount the projected cost of student debt relief. View Quote Fuck yeah, hoist up that straw man. The fact the government has done retarded shit in the past is not a justification for all the other retarded shit they want to do. There is no justification, at all, ever, for taxpayers being forced to fund handouts. |
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Quoted: Old folks used to say all the time "Don't count your chickens before they hatch." These goddamn fools should have listened to the voices of experience, instead of continuing to believe in Santa Claus. View Quote I've heard the phrase a few times. Life had to donkey punch me a couple times for it to sink in, but it did sink in. The problem with many of these folks is, that they are old enough to know better by now. |
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Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a Florida Literacy Bill into Law. Will go into effect when school starts in the fall.
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Quoted: This part is WIDELY subjective.... I would say everything from young kid not understanding what they got into, to the world/life/job/situation changing. View Quote It is subjective. These "kids" are really incapable of making long-term life decisions unless they had good parents or are just naturally intelligent enough to rationally make financial decisions. Most of these "kids" never managed money, few ever worked a job on a payroll, weren't required to pay any bills...and then you have banks "encouraged" by the .gov to hand out school loans like candy because they know the .gov will either bail them out or make a deal. Nobody gives a shit about the stupid college graduate with a useless social services degree who can't get a job other than waiting tables, living at home with mom and dad trying to live like a Hollywood young-adult sitcom while enslaved to debt. Hell, at least for the good-looking young women, there are sugar daddy dating sites and Olyfans Add to the fact that these "kids" going right into college with no life/employment experience, they do no analysis on actual college degree success at getting a decent paying job in any sector let alone understanding the competitiveness of those sectors. My son is learning the hard way as well. He did get an ROTC scholarship, but it was only three years, so he had to get a loan and HE mismanaged it. He also worked full time when in college, so it's not like he wasn't doing anything, but even that small loan is still kicking him in the nuts. Hindsight is a bitch, so stop your bitching and work harder dipshits...maybe by the time they're 40 they'll be in a position to start a 30-year career to retirement at 75-80. Meanwhile, my wife will be working on her doctoral dissertation this fall and it will take two to three semesters. Two years into her doctorate and she's only had to pay about $5K. She's been working as a graduate research assistant which pays her tuition and pays her about $500 a month...works full time as an Assistant Principle. The best way to avoid debt is busting your ass, discipline, and a little cost-benefit analysis. Sadly, FJB and his administration used this college-debt relief to dupe the ignorant young peeps, and now they'll get their votes blaming their failure on evil republicans who hate college kids. Great strategy for the ignorant... ROCK6 |
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FJB and F those deadbeats that don't want to pay their bills....
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Quoted: The biggest disservice schools and parents made are telling their kids to go to college and creating an incentive for .gov to subsidize it. Debt slavery and leftist indoctrination all rolled into one outstanding mess. View Quote This is the core problem. Biden and the Democrats are creating a distraction. Make student loan debt dischargeable in bankruptcy and you will destroy the liberal indoctrination camps. That would be a win/win. |
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Quoted: Sure But you’re saying no one’s financial situation changed in the last 3 yrs? View Quote I guess that logic should absolve any and all borrowers from ever being held responsible for their financial commitments? So no more defaults or bankruptcies then? What about mortgages and car loans? How about corporate debt? How about government debt? |
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Quoted: Fuck yeah, hoist up that straw man. The fact the government has done retarded shit in the past is not a justification for all the other retarded shit they want to do. There is no justification, at all, ever, for taxpayers being forced to fund handouts. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: People are willing to die on this hill to own the libs. It's a $10k relief, not complete loan forgiveness. But don't let this distract you from the fact that Trump and the Retardicans agreed to shut down the economy and printed twice the amount the projected cost of student debt relief. Fuck yeah, hoist up that straw man. The fact the government has done retarded shit in the past is not a justification for all the other retarded shit they want to do. There is no justification, at all, ever, for taxpayers being forced to fund handouts. Amen! That goes for any individuals and groups - even nations. |
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