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Posted: 1/30/2024 1:45:53 PM EDT
https://nypost.com/2024/01/30/business/ups-to-slash-12000-jobs-as-workers-ordered-to-be-in-office-5-days-a-week/
United Parcel Service will slash 12,000 jobs and workers who survive the massive layoffs will be ordered to return to the office five days a week, the company said Tuesday. The Atlanta-based firm announced the job cuts after reporting a 31.8% drop in quarterly profit, as e-commerce demand remained subdued and costs jumped from the company’s new contract with the Teamsters union. 
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Posted: 1/30/2024 1:47:55 PM EDT
[#1]
Yep... you want more, we pay more. Oh wait, now our bottom line sucks so we have to lay you off.
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Posted: 1/30/2024 1:48:27 PM EDT
[#2]
Union strong!
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Posted: 1/30/2024 1:49:42 PM EDT
[#3]
Bringing those employees back to the office will certainly increase e-commerce and turn the ship around.
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Posted: 1/30/2024 1:50:41 PM EDT
[#4]
Learn to
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Posted: 1/30/2024 1:51:36 PM EDT
[#5]
Funny I keep hearing it’s the best economy we have ever had.
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Posted: 1/30/2024 1:51:58 PM EDT
[#6]
Amazon and Walmart delivery are eating their lunch.
UPS should have done the contractor model years ago. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 1:53:37 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Amazon and Walmart delivery are eating their lunch. UPS should have done the contractor model years ago. Oh yea, because everyone knows how awesome fedex is |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 1:53:53 PM EDT
[#8]
Unpredictable
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ups-drivers-170000-pay-benefits-compensation/ |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 1:55:54 PM EDT
[#9]
So they're shitcanning people that work there that make absolutely no contribution to the operation of picking up and delivering shit around the world? Cool. Let me know when they start shitcanning operations personnel.
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Posted: 1/30/2024 1:56:32 PM EDT
[#10]
I loaded trucks there in my youth. At Christmas time. Still have nightmares of Harry and David chasing me.
Anywho, UPS works the shit out of employees. Drivers hustle and put in some long days. But $170,000 is crazy money for a blue collar gig that is 100% OJT. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 1:56:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/30/2024 1:57:37 PM EDT
[#12]
“and costs jumped from the company’s new contract with the Teamsters union”
Look for the union label! |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 1:58:03 PM EDT
[#13]
I thought about creating a thread just to vent…now I don’t have to
I got something sent to me last week, put in the “mail” on Wednesday for 2 day air. I got a delivery notice I would get it on Friday from an email on Thursday. The package arrived at my local facility (less than 10 miles from my house) Thursday night at 11:59PM. At 6:15 am on Friday I got a notice that my package was in a severe weather delay……  . It has been above freezing since last Wed and only one or two days of rain. Package is in the same status as of this moment….. . I tried the automated system which was the only option, sent an email and still nothing but crickets. I am now contacting the seller to make sure he gets his upgraded shipping fees returned, I could care less if I get the money but this shit is pathetic. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:08:35 PM EDT
[#14]
Math. It's not hard.
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:08:46 PM EDT
[#15]
Amazon is hiring
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:09:02 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So they're shitcanning people that work there that make absolutely no contribution to the operation of picking up and delivering shit around the world? Cool. Let me know when they start shitcanning operations personnel. Two different issues 1) 12,000 people being laid off 2) Office workers on a hybrid WFM schedule now have to work FT in office |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:09:15 PM EDT
[#17]
I take it the still working union brothers will not take a pay cut to save the other union brothers their jobs?
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:10:57 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Amazon is hiring Quote HistoryQuoted: Amazon is hiring https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-layoffs January 2024 In the latest round of layoffs, Amazon is laying off less than 5% of its workforce in the Buy with Prime unit. The Buy with Prime program launched in 2022 to equip retailers with fulfillment and delivery services. "We regularly review the structure of our teams and make adjustments based on the needs of the business and, following a recent review, we've made the difficult decision to eliminate a small number of roles on our Buy with Prime team. Buy with Prime is a top priority for Amazon, with strong adoption from merchants and positive feedback from customers, and we will continue investing significant resources in Buy with Prime to build on that momentum. We're grateful to these employees for their contributions, and we're focused on supporting them in their next steps," an Amazon statement said. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:12:18 PM EDT
[#19]
They lowered the standard and started to hire people which had criminal records and drug users. Who didn't see that happening.
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:13:34 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny I keep hearing it’s the best economy we have ever had. Yeah they don't mention that 3.3% GDP growth was entirely government spending and private GDP shrank. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:18:08 PM EDT
[#21]
Lol union
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:20:33 PM EDT
[#22]
Out for Delivery
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:23:43 PM EDT
[#23]
UPS is based in Atlanta? I thought their base was Louisville, KY.
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:26:05 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bringing those employees back to the office will certainly increase e-commerce and turn the ship around. It’s just another way to cull the herd. Amazon is doing the same thing. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:26:51 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I loaded trucks there in my youth. At Christmas time. Still have nightmares of Harry and David chasing me. Anywho, UPS works the shit out of employees. Drivers hustle and put in some long days. But $170,000 is crazy money for a blue collar gig that is 100% OJT. When the harry potter books were being released was my tenure at ups. All of those preorders. Cases of hardbacks after hardbacks. Fucking nightmarish hellscape. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:28:16 PM EDT
[#26]
Well there were probably that many useless office jobs my company could have cut also .
We had over 450 diversity and inclusion position hiring's world wide making a paycheck |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:34:05 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh yea, because everyone knows how awesome fedex is I heard from a FedEx line haul driver that their contractor model is coming to an end and the trucks will all be driven by employees before long. I haven't seen anything to confirm it, nor do I really care that much. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:35:32 PM EDT
[#28]
Knew this was coming the second I saw an article and thought "UPS people make THAT much?".
It would be great if every job paid 6 figures and that this was sustainable. However, that is not real life. Lots of people are going to learn this the hard way. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:36:35 PM EDT
[#29]
Don't worry, this won't affect plans to open the $20 million dollar office in India and hire over 1,000 new "employees"
 https://www.business-standard.com/companies/news/shipping-logistics-firm-ups-opens-india-s-first-tech-centre-in-chennai-123082800689_1.html It's a shame most people outside of UPS won't see how this company has changed in the last 25 years since they went public. Greed and ignorance fueled massive growth spending that really has not paid off. I believe it's because the people who did the buying were not committed to growing and improving their purchase. Further, like a big lazy government organization, there were many inside who actively stonewalled or refused to integrate these new acquisitions. Nor did they treat the new acquisition people with any hint of respect for their person or knowledge of the industry. UPS thought they were the king of the jungle and they could simply hide behind the big brown shield. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:37:51 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Math. It's not hard. I disagree... |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:38:50 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: UPS is based in Atlanta? I thought their base was Louisville, KY. Figured it was Hodgkins, IL... |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:40:21 PM EDT
[#32]
 
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:52:21 PM EDT
[#33]
A month after Christmas. They are late in the layoffs really.
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:54:52 PM EDT
[#34]
Tip of the iceberg for many industries and companies
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:57:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Figured it was Hodgkins, IL... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: UPS is based in Atlanta? I thought their base was Louisville, KY. Figured it was Hodgkins, IL... UPS corporate is hq’d in atlanta. All of their air packages go through Louisville. Thats the main air hub. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 3:02:01 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Math. It's not hard. It is when they think 2 +2 = 3 Or whatever their common core feelings based math says. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 3:03:03 PM EDT
[#37]
Are the office people still in the union?
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Posted: 1/30/2024 3:08:48 PM EDT
[#38]
I was talking to our UPS delivery driver before Christmas and he said they were slow as shit. No runners on the trucks this year.
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Posted: 1/30/2024 3:09:04 PM EDT
[#39]
So the contest is between $200K/yr union UPS drivers and $15/hr Amazon drivers?
Who will win?!? |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 3:14:53 PM EDT
[#40]
My mailman hauls about half the stuff now that UPS used to deliver. Probably hard to compete with a tax-funded, money-losing .gov delivery service.
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Posted: 1/30/2024 3:45:35 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are the office people still in the union? no |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:03:09 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: UPS corporate is hq’d in atlanta. All of their air packages go through Louisville. Thats the main air hub. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:05:45 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So they're shitcanning people that work there that make absolutely no contribution to the operation of picking up and delivering shit around the world? Cool. Let me know when they start shitcanning operations personnel. Pretty much what my UPS driver said during lunch.
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:08:16 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh yea, because everyone knows how awesome fedex is fedex ground courier is contractor fedex express couriers are employees. ground sucks festering donkey balls. used to be an Express courier. totally different operations. Ground here treats their employees like convicts. armed guards, turnstiles, metal detectors. cameras everywhere like a prison visiting room. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:08:29 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: But $170,000 is crazy money for a blue collar gig that is 100% OJT. The $170K gross is the total equivalent of top pay+benefits at 60 or 70 hours a week, not thier average 45-50 hours. That being said 55 hrs is common. The majority is high average is around $90-100K gross. This has been discussed ad nauseam on many sites. My driver also said he hears this alot and shakes his head. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:13:03 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So the contest is between $200K/yr union UPS drivers and $15/hr Amazon drivers? Who will win?!? Amazon is expensive still to get items delivered, if people shop around they will see this, they just pop up first on the search engines. Ask Amazon drivers how good it is to work all day trying to keep up with Fed Ex and UPS delivery pace and making peanuts. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:14:46 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Unpredictable https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ups-drivers-170000-pay-benefits-compensation/ Don’t know any Union employees that WFH. Do know a few hub employees getting cut… volume is down / being moved to more automated hubs. And if you believe the Communist Broadcast Service propaganda I can’t help you. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:15:36 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Union strong! 
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:19:26 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny I keep hearing it's the best economy we have ever had. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:27:22 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought about creating a thread just to vent now I don't have to I got something sent to me last week, put in the "mail" on Wednesday for 2 day air. I got a delivery notice I would get it on Friday from an email on Thursday. The package arrived at my local facility (less than 10 miles from my house) Thursday night at 11:59PM. At 6:15 am on Friday I got a notice that my package was in a severe weather delay . It has been above freezing since last Wed and only one or two days of rain. Package is in the same status as of this moment ... I tried the automated system which was the only option, sent an email and still nothing but crickets. I am now contacting the seller to make sure he gets his upgraded shipping fees returned, I could care less if I get the money but this shit is pathetic.Once "weather delay" is entered, you get nothing back. ---has spent hundreds of thousands on ups shipping |
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