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Posted: 4/28/2021 4:38:53 PM EST
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Quote History Is that a happy hole 
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Posted: 4/28/2021 4:39:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s sad that 90% of what GD knows about Africa came from that movie. Nope. I learned it all from Zulu, Zulu Dawn, Dogs of War and The Wild Geese. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 4:48:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryGood Lord. That's superb. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 4:49:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it was Luth-AR that kicked them into making more last time. They or Brownells (who also carried them) might be a good place to start. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So who do you or anyone else think would be most easily goaded into effectively convincing anchor harvey? I think it was Luth-AR that kicked them into making more last time. They or Brownells (who also carried them) might be a good place to start. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 4:51:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Get an Armson OEG. They have a retro model out now. About as small, light, and tough as you will ever find.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 4:55:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lightweight carbines are handy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/34777/7A11AC12-C783-4AF2-9B7B-72854C6CD706_jpe-1922476.JPG Yes they are.   Attached File |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 5:15:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that a happy hole Unfortunately, not a real one. 
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Posted: 4/28/2021 5:18:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Already sent each an email asking to backorder 4 C7 uppers. Good deal. Let me know what they say, I might like another one to do a 733 build. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 5:34:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lightweight carbines are handy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/34777/7A11AC12-C783-4AF2-9B7B-72854C6CD706_jpe-1922476.JPG I agree. I just finished this as my second AR ever a couple of months ago. I had originally wanted to do a 14.5" pinned and welded with a retro brace, which would Federally be a pistol and for CA be a "long gun, other", which at the time was exempt from the AWB, but then they expanded it at the end of last summer to include such weapons, so I decided I didn't want to pin and weld a CA-legal muzzle device and went with a 16" mid-length. Meant to be both lightweight and a budget build (in case I have to use it, and lose it), which is also why it only has irons. It's now my defensive carbine at home, with the CA grip, muzzle device, etc. on it. With an empty 30-round aluminum magazine, it weighs 6 lbs. 1.5 oz. Light and handy. My other AR, with a free-float rail and the works, weighs only half a pound more with no accessories. I like my ARs light. 
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Posted: 4/28/2021 5:40:54 PM EST
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Posted: 4/28/2021 5:41:32 PM EST
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Quote History@DoubleARon. What is the forend on that second carbine? I’m liking it, looks kinda like an old retro sheet metal handguard |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 5:41:37 PM EST
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I’m seriously thinking about having this sent off for an ops collar and brake. Even though I may never own an Allen can.
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Posted: 4/28/2021 5:47:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. I learned it all from Zulu, Zulu Dawn, Dogs of War and The Wild Geese. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It’s sad that 90% of what GD knows about Africa came from that movie. Nope. I learned it all from Zulu, Zulu Dawn, Dogs of War and The Wild Geese. And Hatari!, you forgot Hatari! |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 5:48:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Noice ! The green one with the OEG is a .458 SOCOM. Forest told me there's no issue with them on large bore rifles. I think I'm gonna put one of the HD OEGs on the other gun. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 5:48:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @DoubleARon. What is the forend on that second carbine? I'm liking it, looks kinda like an old retro sheet metal handguard |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 5:49:41 PM EST
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Posted: 4/28/2021 5:57:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What about an A1 Carry Handle? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/71432/My_KISS_00_jpg-1922471.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/71432/My_9mm_AR_00_jpg-1922475.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Carry handles are still cool but A1’s are the coolest https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2974/0251A1C9-9893-4CBA-B166-7655F1339C6E_jpe-1920627.JPG And nothing is wrong with carry handles optics https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2974/FFEBFD14-8E8C-4C31-94AC-0806E8592C98_jpe-1920628.JPG What about an A1 Carry Handle? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/71432/My_KISS_00_jpg-1922471.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/71432/My_9mm_AR_00_jpg-1922475.JPG Like on my Product Improvement Program 605 15" bbl?  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 5:58:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree. I just finished this as my second AR ever a couple of months ago. I had originally wanted to do a 14.5" pinned and welded with a retro brace, which would Federally be a pistol and for CA be a "long gun, other", which at the time was exempt from the AWB, but then they expanded it at the end of last summer to include such weapons, so I decided I didn't want to pin and weld a CA-legal muzzle device and went with a 16" mid-length. Meant to be both lightweight and a budget build (in case I have to use it, and lose it), which is also why it only has irons. It's now my defensive carbine at home, with the CA grip, muzzle device, etc. on it. With an empty 30-round aluminum magazine, it weighs 6 lbs. 1.5 oz. Light and handy. My other AR, with a free-float rail and the works, weighs only half a pound more with no accessories. I like my ARs light. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50927368642_408fc20f1b_b.jpg  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 6:05:54 PM EST
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Posted: 4/28/2021 6:22:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What about an A1 Carry Handle? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/71432/My_KISS_00_jpg-1922471.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/71432/My_9mm_AR_00_jpg-1922475.JPG @Desert_AIP |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 6:31:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good deal. Let me know what they say, I might like another one to do a 733 build. So far Brownells said 2-3 months but weren't interested in back orders so I'm not holding my breath. Send them an email as well, more people asking can't hurt |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 6:38:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So far Brownells said 2-3 months but weren't interested in back orders so I'm not holding my breath. Send them an email as well more, people asking can't hurt Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Good deal. Let me know what they say, I might like another one to do a 733 build. So far Brownells said 2-3 months but weren't interested in back orders so I'm not holding my breath. Send them an email as well more, people asking can't hurt Group buy maybe? If someone can get the wheels in motion, someone put me on that list and whom to send funds to and a link in the EE to it, please. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 6:43:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So far Brownells said 2-3 months but weren't interested in back orders so I'm not holding my breath. Send them an email as well more, people asking can't hurt |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 7:13:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is cool, yet I cannot overstate how much I hate optics mounted to carry handles. 
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Posted: 4/28/2021 7:20:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mike, if you guys make a quality C7 upper, I'll let you date my sister. The green one with the OEG is a .458 SOCOM. Forest told me there's no issue with them on large bore rifles. I think I'm gonna put one of the HD OEGs on the other gun. Good luck getting a PO in with them (for anything) right now.  BTW: How hot is your sister? Asking for my wife..................... 
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Posted: 4/28/2021 7:27:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good luck getting a PO in with them (for anything) right now. BTW: How hot is your sister? Asking for my wife..................... Seriously though, thanks for the super awesome shit you guys make. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 7:27:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, but everyone is mounting optics on 1.93" mounts these days which is damn near the same thing Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It is cool, yet I cannot overstate how much I hate optics mounted to carry handles. ^^^^^^ |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 7:28:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not enough to fuck up your marriage. Maybe we could negotiate. I really need an 80% partial fence lower. Seriously though, thanks for the super awesome shit you guys make. Hell yeah. That reminds me I need to call NDS about a grey charging handle. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 7:30:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hell yeah. That reminds me I need to call NDS about a grey charging handle.  |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 7:32:27 PM EST
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My work in progress. Olympic arms upper. Lowers borrowef from another rifle. Still waiting on Brownells to get a retro lower in to complete the build
The sling is made from army duffle bag straps and paracord. Instructions on this was found in the AR-15 forum. Unfortunately I had to buy 10 straps so I got plenty left over to make more for other rifles.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 7:37:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My work in progress. Olympic arms upper. Lowers borrowef from another rifle. Still waiting on Brownells to get a retro lower in to complete the build The sling is made from army duffle bag straps and paracord. Instructions on this was found in the AR-15 forum. Unfortunately I had to buy 10 straps so I got plenty left over to make more for other rifles. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/28046/20210428_161357_jpg-1922733.JPG My XM177E2 clone started with an upper pretty much exactly like that. I still have the barrel assembly hanging around, debating whether I should use it on something or find another home for it. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 7:39:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My work in progress. Olympic arms upper. Lowers borrowef from another rifle. Still waiting on Brownells to get a retro lower in to complete the build The sling is made from army duffle bag straps and paracord. Instructions on this was found in the AR-15 forum. Unfortunately I had to buy 10 straps so I got plenty left over to make more for other rifles. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/28046/20210428_161357_jpg-1922733.JPG https://www.charleyssurplus.com/general-purpose-strap-ch-ma139.html |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 7:42:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That movie was good. That movie was when I decided DeCaprio was a good actor. Never saw that boat movie he was in. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 7:43:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You got 10 of the wrong strap, bro. This is the one you wanted. $6.95 for a brand new canvas one that smells 55 years old. https://www.charleyssurplus.com/general-purpose-strap-ch-ma139.html To be honest, you could put just about any sling-like-object on an XM177 and probably not be the first person to do it. I've seen twine, rope, lamp cord, etc... |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 7:43:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That movie was when I decided DeCaprio was a good actor. Never saw that boat movie he was in. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 7:47:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Like on my Product Improvement Program 605 15" bbl? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/6163/605O_jpeg-1922613.JPG Is that the KAC MAMS in 5.56? Is it a brake, a flash suppressor, or a hybrid of both? How's the sound, louder than an A2? Muzzle recovery? |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 7:50:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know that I could bring myself to paint it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/180161/IMG_4480_zps712b17d5_jpg-1919710.JPG Always dig when you post that pic. I've got everything I need to make an E1 upper to go with my E2 upper, except waiting on retro barrels from Brownell's. As soon as they get back in stock, JT with Retro Arms Work is going to be getting some more business. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 7:54:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that the CNC Guns carry handle? How do you like it? @Desert_AIP Yes. Love it, I have 3. My only gripe, the home made plastic nuts they came with were crap and split and fell off. I got some standard carry handle nuts from Bushmaster as replacements. I always liked the A1 sights better. They're less "fiddly". I used an A2 aperture IIRC. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 7:55:32 PM EST
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Posted: 4/28/2021 8:00:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. Love it, I have 3. My only gripe, the home made plastic nuts they came with were crap and split and fell off. I got some standard carry handle nuts from Bushmaster as replacements. I always liked the A1 sights better. They're less "fiddly". I used an A2 aperture IIRC. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 8:09:37 PM EST
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Whats a decent detachable A2 carry handle? I've seen PSA has them for 69 bucks are they g2g?
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Posted: 4/28/2021 8:10:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whats a decent detachable A2 carry handle? I've seen PSA has them for 69 bucks are they g2g? Should be fine. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 8:13:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tony’s does, I believe, though his aren’t vinyl coated last I checked. The best reproduction ones were from Vaughan at Essential Arms in LA, but sadly he has retired and closed up. However, I think someone bought the plans/tooling for those stocks, so we may see them return. I ended up buying a fiberlite repro from retrorifles.com a couple years ago, it works fine on my 733 Heat knockoff. They have some aluminum ones for sale for about $130, plastics run about $30. I can't vouch for them now, it's been quite a while since I bought mine from them and I've heard some negative reviews about them in the recent past. But they're there if you want to chance it. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 8:16:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that the KAC MAMS in 5.56? Is it a brake, a flash suppressor, or a hybrid of both? How's the sound, louder than an A2? Muzzle recovery? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Like on my Product Improvement Program 605 15" bbl? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/6163/605O_jpeg-1922613.JPG Is that the KAC MAMS in 5.56? Is it a brake, a flash suppressor, or a hybrid of both? How's the sound, louder than an A2? Muzzle recovery? KAC 3 prong FH/suppressor mount. I haven't seen any tests. but to my ears it's no louder than an A2 or similar. It's not a brake. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 8:17:19 PM EST
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This thread makes me want to watch Heat, and start moving parts around to make my 16" a full flattop and 12.5" a carry handle/A2 setup.
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Posted: 4/28/2021 8:19:43 PM EST
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Posted: 4/28/2021 8:24:36 PM EST
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Posted: 4/28/2021 8:26:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You got 10 of the wrong strap, bro. This is the one you wanted. $6.95 for a brand new canvas one that smells 55 years old. https://www.charleyssurplus.com/general-purpose-strap-ch-ma139.html Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My work in progress. Olympic arms upper. Lowers borrowef from another rifle. Still waiting on Brownells to get a retro lower in to complete the build The sling is made from army duffle bag straps and paracord. Instructions on this was found in the AR-15 forum. Unfortunately I had to buy 10 straps so I got plenty left over to make more for other rifles. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/28046/20210428_161357_jpg-1922733.JPG https://www.charleyssurplus.com/general-purpose-strap-ch-ma139.html https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/us-military-surplus-carry-straps-10-pack-used?a=2192471  |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 8:28:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those are the ones I got....I assume they are used on duffle bags and the like. Ordered from here https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/us-military-surplus-carry-straps-10-pack-used?a=2192471 https://image.sportsmansguide.com/adimgs/l/7/707678_ts.jpg |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 8:29:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah. Having to order ten of them is BS. On the plus slide, he now has slings for nine more XM177 builds!
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