Anti-2A all his life: How Republicans Have Damaged the 2nd Amendment  

Reagan was just like Trump, talked a great game on the 2A but was a lifelong anti-2A politician:

As California governor, he signed into law a 15 day waiting period and signed the Mulford Act which prohibited the carrying of firearms on person or in vehicles in public places. He also spoke out against concealed carry.

He supported George H.W. Bush's 1989 assault weapons import ban (which is still in effect and was backed by Trump's "best people" AG Bar). Right after the Purdey shooting:




Reagan supported and was an activist for Clinton's 1994 Brady bill (originally written by "best people" Barr for Bush 1's crime bill), domestic assault weapons ban, and magazine ban.









But dumb ass gun owners worship him based on what he said in speeches and not on what he did JUST LIKE THEY DO WITH TRUMP.

You and your ilk ALWAYS ignore the main objection many of us have, and have articulated MANY times.

Trump's 2A issues.

ETA - just read your inane post about bumpstocks.  Swing and a miss, it was about much more than the bumpstocks themselves, and his 2A issues run much deeper than that.

It was never about bumpstocks.

It’s about a man who would institute gun control with the stroke of a pen for his own political expediency.  A president who could declare “I like taking the guns. Take the guns first, due process later.”

Some of us care about stuff like that, but we understand you don’t.

Seems simple...

I can't even imagine missing the obvious point.

I think they just ignore it intentionally.

Very nice response. You saved me from A LOT of typing.

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Swamp "Best People" hired by Trump (this is the short list)

1) Jared Kushner/Trump son-in-law, Soros business partner (w/his anti-2A donating brother) to the tune of $500,000,000. A regular guest at Soros' home with "beautiful Ivanka". He was appointed highest presidential adviser for 4 years. Helped get Israel $360 billion dollar check for Trump to sign at lightning speed (first year).

2) Bill Barr - attorney general/highest law enforcement position. He was George HW Bush's AG and drafted the domestic assault weapons ban and mag ban for Bush's crime bill in 1991 which ended up part of Clinton's Brady Bill and ban. He publicly stated he was in favor of a permanent mag ban as well as Bush's 1989 AW import ban.

3) democrat General Mattis. 'Nuff said?

4) globalist Rothschild banking head Wilber Ross. Rothschild bank bailed the Trump corporation out of failure in the early 1990s and Wilber was "da man". His reward was Commerce Secretary.

5) at least 6 Goldman Sachs banking corporate heads to White House advisory positions. (And Ted Cruz would be "owned" by GS because his wife had a position there according to Trump - LOL!)

6) Chuck Canteberry picked by Trump to head BATFE. When pro-2A groups reached out to Trump's office with info that Canteberry was anti-gun, Trump pushed for him anyway. Canteberry had so much anti-2A history that even RINO Republicans pushed so that he would not be appointed.

7) Trump left ALL Obama appointees at ATF for his entire term.

8) Appointed openly homosexual Richard Grinnel as ambassador to Germany and then continues to use him to shove the gay agenda down the throats of Republican party by hosting and promoting the gay Log Cabin Republican events at Mar-a-Lago. (Gee, Trump still hasn't sprung $300 for a conference room at Holiday Inn for the first Second Amendment Coalition meeting - still holding on to that supporter-donated $250 million to Stop the Steal).

9) Who was the "best people" in charge of the Second Amendment Coalition??? Big promise two months before the election with promises by Don Sr. and Jr. yet the the coalition page taken down from Trump's website months after he is sworn into office. Firearms industry people chosen to be involved NEVER heard from the Trumps again.

10) Leftwing medical dictator Fauchi left in charge (threatened doctors with loss of license if they prescribed Hydroxiclorequine or Ivermectin which saved lives). "Nobody better try and hurt him." - DJT

11) Fatass anti-2A NJ values Chris Christie was a Trump bestie early on.

12) General Mark Miley who is so left-leaning that many Trumpers think Biden appointed him - LOL!

Sure, he will drain the swamp this time...

Why cast aspersions on Trump for not being conscripted due to a serious medical condition?

Do you call those who were young and able-bodied during GWOT pussies if they chose to serve by generating tax revenue during war instead of joining the military?

It's almost like every post you see here is from a, wait for it, different person and this whole place isn't just one big echo chamber.

Dude you'll see different perspectives to every single post here, you can't just lump everyone together.

Then again, so many people here will say stupid shit like "they got what they voted for" when something bad happens to a state they don't like, a state with Americans in it that don't all vote the same damn way.

Because it wasn’t a serious medical condition.

The doctor who diagnosed it was a tenant in one of his daddy’s properties, and did it as a favor to keep his son from going to war.

Pathetic.

Awesome.  If just one more nobody endorses Ron he is sure to beat trump.

Its a bigger fail than the lift boots~ Follow the money.


Bob Vander Plaats, a high-profile evangelical leader in Iowa, officially endorsed Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in the Republican presidential primary.
Vander Plaats made his announcement during a live appearance on Fox News Channel.

Earlier this year, the DeSantis campaign, a super PAC linked to him and a nonprofit group supporting him together paid $95,000 in recent months to the Family Leader Foundation, an Iowa-based nonprofit led by evangelical leader Vander Plaats, Reuters reported.

Vander Plaats denied there was any link to all that cash and his coveted endorsement.
“My endorsement has never been and never will be for sale,” Vander Plaats told Reuters. “My only interest is in bold, courageous, principled leadership for this country.”


He also admitted to Fox News that he took money from Team DeSantis and had no regrets.

I listened to that live yesterday. I wanted to post about it but I thought I’d wait to see how some people were going get themselves out on a limb crowing about it and then try to backtrack later. It was pretty funny.

Nowhere do I see you refuting any of the links to be false.
Interesting…..

I do believe its "Not About Bumpstocks"....I honestly believe you could not care less.

You have an agenda and will use every weapon available to attack Trump. Thats the whole point for you.

The way Trump's people attack Vander Plaats and DeSantis with the slightest shred of truth is oddly (well, not really) reminiscent of exactly how the leftist media approaches everything.

That's our guy, all right. Always attacking from the left using the tactics of the left.

cite...
Provide proof of this highlighted or are you are just making it up as you go along ?  Provide proof the doctor made it up as a favor and Trump had no medical condition .

You must have this proof since you made the claim .

Well...they're very effective or wouldn't be in the political pickle we've been in for decades

You can’t be serious.

Pretty much everyone can find a reason to be “disqualified” for military service if they look hard enough.

Everyone who has ever joined knows it’s a game. Some of us played it to get in, people like Trump played it to get out.

You have dog tags, so somewhere deep down you know I’m right.

Lots of Trump talk here....crazy how nobody likes to stay on topic.  This one should be about DeSantis paying for endorcements I think.

Sorry I stole your thunder.

Ha!!!

Mr nobody has ever heard of got paid for his endorsement

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Desantis-paid-for-an-endorsement-/5-2688393/?r=-1&page=1&anc=bottom#bottom

Ha!!! Awesome!!!

Was already addressed yesterday.

Multiple times.

DeSantis, Vivek, and Tim Scott all paid for space at the event. Trump didn't after his embarrassing "Two Corinthians" gaffe at the event last year.

You sure showed Rob supporters!

A record debt accumulating, anti-2A, anti-constitutional progressive, who would turn 83 in office? The man who has cost republicans the last 3 national elections? The man who illegally tried to overturn an election he lost?

Yes, I have an agenda against Trump. The question is, why don’t you?

Still standing by for the list of 150 "faith leaders" endorsing Trump in Iowa.

150 is a pretty specific number so someone had to have counted them all which means someone has a list. I want to see these pillars of their communities!

Is this guy on it?

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The doctor’s daughters have gone on the record with this exact claim, citing their father.

The fact that the doctor was a tenant of Fred Trump is not in dispute.

Look it up yourself.

“Plaats – himself a thrice-failed candidate for Governor of Iowa”

Almost forgot to post this here for folks that might not have caught it in the other thread.

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Trump's Foundation Wrote Many Checks On Path to Nomination

In the years leading up to his presidential bid, Donald Trump’s charitable foundation donated generously to several conservative nonprofits that would later help raise his stature within the movement.

The foundation, which Trump initially financed with his own money but has been funded by outside donors since 2008, gave more than $321,000 to prominent conservative groups that were important players on the road to the GOP nomination, according to tax filings first reported by RealClearPolitics. The groups included Iowa’s Family Leader, South Carolina Palmetto Family Council, the American Conservatives Union and Citizens United.

Together, the donations paint a picture of the wealthy businessman using charity-earmarked money to build relationships with conservative activists in early voting states. There are laws prohibiting self-dealing that would bar these kinds of donations if they were solely for Trump’s personal benefit, but there’s nothing stopping Trump from donating to these groups as a charitable act — even if it does grease the wheels of his presidential bid along the way.

Trump Used Foundation Funds for 2016 Run, Filings Suggest

But RCP’s review of IRS filings by the Trump foundation turned up a fresh conflict: a 2013 donation of $10,000 to The Family Leader, a 501(c)(4) established to “develop, advocate and support legislative agenda at the state level.” Unlike a 501(c)(3), or a nonprofit organization, a 501(c)(4) can effect policy and engage in limited political activity, and thus is subject to greater restrictions on contributions from charities.  

If the Trump foundation sent its money to The Family Leader and not its affiliated nonprofit, it did not properly note it in the filing and might have failed to earmark the money for charitable purposes, a violation of IRS rules. If the money was sent to the Family Leader Foundation, it was not recorded as such.

“There’s a mistake somewhere,” said Fei. “It might be a really substantive mistake, or it could just be a reporting error or sloppiness. But improper reporting is still a violation of tax law. That’s something the IRS would look at.”

The donation also appears to have been geared toward boosting Trump’s political prospects, raising the specter of another possible violation for self-dealing.

In the same year that Trump’s foundation made that $10,000 contribution, The Family Leader featured Trump as a marquee speaker for the first time at its influential leadership summit in Iowa. The announcement raised eyebrows: Craig Robinson, editor of the Iowa Republican blog, wrote that Trump was “an odd fit for a social conservative confab,” while the Family Leader was roundly criticized by other Iowa conservatives for including Trump in the program.

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Meanwhile, there are half a dozen other such examples of Trump having used his foundation to help curry or cement favor, the IRS 990 forms show.

The Rev. Franklin Graham, president and CEO of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, for example, might have seemed an unusual political ally for the brash mogul from New York — but in April 2011, Graham began to publicly express support for the celebrity businessman as Trump weighed a bid for president.

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Sometime in 2012, Trump used his foundation to send $100,000 to Graham’s association — one of the largest donations the foundation would make to any group that year.

'Member Franklin Graham endorsing Trump? I 'member...

You Trumpers sure this is a rabbit hole you want to keep going down? I mean I know you guys have really short term memory but the internet doesn't.

Don't get mad DeSantis is running the Trump playbook better than Trump.

Lol so the self admitted Trump hating democratic daughter.  So you have nothing ...as I thought

You are by far the least likable poster I've ever seen on this board, quite a feat. The smugness was enough but being proud for being a childish tattletale takes the cake.

Good thing I don't care what some nobody on the internet thinks of me.

Happy Thanksgiving!



ETA:

Hilarious coming from someone that's almost guaranteed to have been gargling Bush's balls given your love for the establishment.

I guess you fancy yourself a somebody on the internet though.

Nope. Not at all.

Only reason I voted for Bush was because I wasn't eligible to vote in the 2000 primary and he ran unopposed in 2004. In 2008 I supported Duncan Hunter then Alan Keyes. In 2012 I supported Herman Cain. In 2016 I supported Ted Cruz.

As in all the past primaries, in 2024, I am once again supporting the most Conservative candidate: Ron DeSantis.

Interesting that you felt compelled to explain yourself to 'some nobody on the internet'.  

This is a discussion forum and I'm quite proud of my Conservative political history.

You sure spend a lot of time conversing with someone you find the "least likeable poster you've ever seen on this board".

 I love that meme,

@Ryan_Ruck
Who will you vote for if Trump wins the nomination?

I know that Ryan can come off brash and almost child-like in his posts, but I actually kind of admire him.

It takes serious tenacity to wake up each day and realize you’ve hitched your wagon to a couple of losers like the Ukraine and Desantis.  Then, publicly proclaim support over and over again.

He’s probably a good dude in real life and I bet we’d agree on most things.

Happy Thanksgiving, bros!

So long as Trump just keeps being the idiot he is and somehow doesn't manage to sink any lower than his already subpar character, I will once again cast a ballot against the Democrats in his favor as I have the last 2 elections.

Mostly just so I can rub it in the faces of all the Trump Davidians when he loses the General Election yet again.

ETA: In all my elections voting, I have never actually cast a vote for the Republican Presidential candidate, only against the Dems.

"It doesn't matter so much I'm going to whine about just how much it doesn't matter 4 days later!"

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Lots of wealthy educated men have dodged their call to service in their nation’s time of need. It goes back to the civil war.

Trump is just one man in a long line of millions who declined to serve.

This has been running since Thursday:

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Still waiting on the list of 150 "faith leaders" that was boasted.

DAY 4

LOL @realDonaldTrump is the only candidate…EVER…who thought my endorsement would be for sale. He found out, and @Reuters validated, I live by higher standards.

And, Iowa will exhibit higher standards when they choose @RonDeSantis over a Chump. pic.twitter.com/YtZZPLuYM9

Bob Vander Plaats  (@bobvanderplaats) November 25, 2023

I will go ‘all in’ to let Iowans and America know why @RonDeSantis earned my endorsement and deserves their vote.

Simply: Win. Lead. Two Terms. High Capacity TEAM.

Statesman. Shepherd. Cause Above Self. LEADER. #ChooseWell2024 https://t.co/jJy0nOQMF5

Bob Vander Plaats  (@bobvanderplaats) November 29, 2023

The $95,000 tweet