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Posted: 5/14/2024 11:27:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That pic really shows just how much weight is on that front bow section. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They moved the big floating crane in to work on the bow area. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/367483/floating_crane-3213999.png That pic really shows just how much weight is on that front bow section. According to the coast guard captain theres a bunch of water ballast holding it down. Once it’s deemed safe to do so they will release it to re-float the ship and the intent is to remove the remaining road section debris pier side. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 1:20:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's why they had a pro set the explosion. Just enough to relieve the tension on that piece of the bridge. Going in there to cut it manually would put people at risk unnecessarily. They did this correctly. ETA: This would not be like running a chainsaw and reading the tension on what you're cutting. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: More what? Kaboom and shit flying everywhere. That's why they had a pro set the explosion. Just enough to relieve the tension on that piece of the bridge. Going in there to cut it manually would put people at risk unnecessarily. They did this correctly. ETA: This would not be like running a chainsaw and reading the tension on what you're cutting. It would have been a whole lot cooler to watch having some F-35s drop small yield laser guided SDB or Hellfires time on target into 8 points of the truss, but the potential for collateral damage would be extreme compared to shaped charges. I am surprised the blasts were as large as they were, I'm guessing they added a bit for show to get the pretty pictures. They could have cut through with a lot lower flash and smoke though possibly with a very slight chance not cutting entirely cut on time. These weren't sequenced so it all had to disconnect instant to avoid lateral forces so they went bigger and more for sure with the charges so things would go straight down instead of pull sideways on the way down. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 1:28:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am surprised the blasts were as large as they were, I'm guessing they added a bit for show to get the pretty pictures. 
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Posted: 5/14/2024 1:51:45 PM EST
[#4]
 What's Next For Dali after They Demolish The Francis Scott Key Bridge on the Ship? |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 2:08:56 PM EST
[#5]
The bow of that ship is quite fucked up on both sides.
According to that video, a whole bunch of weight has to be lifted off it to float it, not enough area in the bow to hold that weight. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 3:03:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The bow of that ship is quite fucked up on both sides. According to that video, a whole bunch of weight has to be lifted off it to float it, not enough area in the bow to hold that weight. It looks like they unloaded 1 or 2 full rows of containers from the front behind where the truss hit, not sure what they did with the ones directly crushed by the truss. --ETA: Looks like they just left them there since they couldn't get the weight off.  
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Posted: 5/14/2024 3:21:57 PM EST
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Ship had multiple blackouts before striking Baltimore bridge, investigators find
The ship that knocked down Baltimore’s Francis Scott Key Bridge suffered two electrical blackouts that disabled critical equipment, federal safety investigators said in a preliminary report released Tuesday. The report, issued by the National Transportation Safety Board, provides the first detailed examination of what went wrong as the Singapore-flagged cargo ship Dali lost power, veered off course and slammed into a critical bridge pier. In addition to the blackouts on March 26, the report described electrical problems the day before the disaster. About 10 hours before the Dali left the Port of Baltimore for a voyage to Sri Lanka, the ship lost power twice, investigators said in the report. Officials wrote that a mistake by a crew member working on part of a diesel engine caused an initial “in-port blackout.” A second blackout in port “was related to insufficient fuel pressure,” it said. “The NTSB is still investigating the electrical configuration following the first in-port blackout and potential impacts on the events during the accident voyage,” the report said. The report offers a comprehensive timeline of the events leading up to and immediately after the crash. It said investigators plan to continue probing “oceangoing vessels’ propulsion and electrical systems; the frequency and causes of vessel contacts with bridges over navigable waters; and bridge-strike mitigation measures such as a combination of vessel-size restrictions, vessel-assist tugs, and bridge-pier protection.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/14/baltimore-key-bridge-collapse-ntsb-report/ |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 4:57:43 PM EST
[#8]
CDI claimed responsibility for the controlled det work today.
I think it's funny how they waited until after the det. I would have done the same thing. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 7:27:47 PM EST
[#9]
 NEW Angles 4K Video Closeups Key Bridge Blast Dali Ship |
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Posted: 5/15/2024 1:09:04 PM EST
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Great footage of the controlled det from the Coast Guard/Corps of Engineers
https://www.dvidshub.net/video/923331/unified-command-performs-controlled-demolition-precision-cutting https://www.dvidshub.net/video/923417/key-bridge-unified-command-removes-portion-bridge-top-m-v-dali-with-precision-charges https://www.dvidshub.net/video/923419/drone-footage-key-bridge-unified-command-removing-portion-bridge-top-m-v-dali-with-precision-charges |
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Posted: 5/15/2024 2:00:35 PM EST
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Not to ask a dumb question, but what happened to the concrete bridge support that the Dali hit?
I don't see any traces of it in any of the videos or stills. |
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Posted: 5/15/2024 2:18:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not to ask a dumb question, but what happened to the concrete bridge support that the Dali hit? I don't see any traces of it in any of the videos or stills. GREAT Question! I thought something was missing. I have no idea what/when/how on that.  |
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Posted: 5/15/2024 2:21:06 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not to ask a dumb question, but what happened to the concrete bridge support that the Dali hit? I don't see any traces of it in any of the videos or stills. They cut rather large portions away from the wreckage with some sort of cable saw. |
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Posted: 5/15/2024 3:11:39 PM EST
[#14]
watched them moving several big pieces of steel off from the bow on the live feed.
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Posted: 5/15/2024 3:16:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not to ask a dumb question, but what happened to the concrete bridge support that the Dali hit? I don't see any traces of it in any of the videos or stills. What's left is mostly under water?   They've removed the above surface broken pieces or they fell into the water while removing steel.  Part of it looks to be laying on the bow under the roadway.  Looks to me like they cut that one square piece off close to the hull. It was sticking much further out from the hull of the ship in the first picture. Links to DVIDS photography and video here https://www.keybridgeresponse2024.com/newsroom |
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Posted: 5/15/2024 7:32:13 PM EST
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NTSB preliminary report out.
Video by Juan Brown, aka Blancolirio, who does aviation accident reporting and also gave us great reporting on the Oroville damn fiasco.  NTSB Prelim Dali Baltimore Bridge Collision |
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Posted: 5/15/2024 7:34:06 PM EST
[#17]
I wonder how close they are to floating the Dali.
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Posted: 5/16/2024 10:41:48 AM EST
[#18]
close up view of some work going on the port bow side.
 Live from Baltimore May 16, 2024 |
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Posted: 5/16/2024 10:51:07 AM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder how close they are to floating the Dali. On the local news, they're saying it might be in the next week or few days. I don't think they'll really have a good idea until they move all of that trash off of it and see what's really wrong with the ship. |
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Posted: 5/16/2024 7:35:33 PM EST
[#20]
This is by far the most up-close-and-personal video of the Dali to date:
 Removing a Massive Ship Stuck Under a Key Bridge... What Could Go Wrong? |
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Posted: 5/16/2024 8:10:06 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder how close they are to floating the Dali. They are not close yet, as of today. |
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Posted: 5/16/2024 8:11:26 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They are not close yet, as of today. I reckon it's going to be a while. Check out the video I posted above. The bow of that ship is a Class A clusterfuck. |
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Posted: 5/16/2024 8:28:39 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I reckon it's going to be a while. Check out the video I posted above. The bow of that ship is a Class A clusterfuck. Thanks. I saw it earlier today. Their is little buoyancy on the bow of the ship to hold all that weight, the hull takes care of that, the bow does not. There is not enough area at the keel at the front of the ship to support all that weight, they are going to have to unload everything from where the gunnel tapers in to the bow to get it to float. Structurally it can hold that weight, buoyancy wise it's not enough to float the bow. |
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Posted: 5/16/2024 8:30:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks. I saw it earlier today. Their is little buoyancy on the bow of the ship to hold all that weight, the hull takes care of that, the bow does not. There is not enough area at the keel at the front of the ship to support all that weight, they are going to have to unload everything from where the gunnel tapers in to the bow to get it to float. Structurally it can hold that weight, buoyancy wise it's not enough to float the bow. Plus, all that shit has to come off of the boat at some point anyway. They may as well remove it where it's currently grounded. It's not like there's a shortage of cranes in the area. |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 8:45:47 AM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is by far the most up-close-and-personal video of the Dali to date:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSLOcSvHmukthat is some fantastic video. |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 8:59:06 AM EST
[#26]
Thursday, May 16, 2024
Unified Command officials have evaluated sonar and lidar imagery but are awaiting results from a dive survey before proceeding with plans to refloat and move the M/V Dali to Seagirt Marine Terminal in the Port of Baltimore. This diver inspection is a necessary and vital step in the complicated process of reopening the Fort McHenry Federal Channel in a manner that mitigates risk to the vessel once it’s carefully refloated and moved from its current position. To permit safe diver access to the Patapsco riverbed next to the vessel, Unified Command cranes must first remove submerged and unstable wreckage from the controlled demolition. Safety also dictates the securing or removal of severely damaged containers and overhanging wreckage from the initial bridge collapse onto the deck of the M/V Dali. This process is already underway and should be complete in the days ahead. https://www.keybridgeresponse2024.com/post/update-26-b-roll-available-unified-command-continues-preparations-for-refloating-of-m-v-dali I don't think they are going to remove the bulk of the debris on the bow before moving the ship. The Coast Guard Captain right after the demo shot had said they will remove most of that pier side. Just a landlubber spectator though.
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Posted: 5/17/2024 9:41:25 AM EST
[#27]
The claw just brought up a nice chunk of steel.
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Posted: 5/17/2024 4:05:25 PM EST
[#28]
 First Views On MV Dali Ship After Bridge Exploded Off |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 6:51:06 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The claw just brought up a nice chunk of steel. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/367483/claw_steel_-3216339.png That one is a hell of a lot more successful than the damn machines at carnivals. Catching anything takes a ton of finesse, combined with the motion delay/slop built in to make it harder than it is already. |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 7:35:35 PM EST
[#30]
Good view from port side. Time lapsed I think 5 hours into about 15 mins.
 Chessie gets a HUGE bite! The Donjon crew working the Bridge Collapse Site on May 17, 2024 The claw gets some. |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 7:38:21 PM EST
[#31]
Are divers making cuts so that sections of debris can be lifted, or is the cutting somehow being done via surface-based machinery?
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Posted: 5/18/2024 9:16:28 AM EST
[#32]
Looks like they are torch cutting on some of the overhanging debris on the starboard bow this morning.
   IN 4K! Baltimore Shipping Channel | Baltimore, MD USA | StreamTime LIVE |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 9:31:07 AM EST
[#33]
Claw getting some steel from the water this morning...
  Live from Baltimore |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 9:36:11 AM EST
[#34]
Torch cutting overhanging debris on the port bow...
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Posted: 5/18/2024 9:40:41 AM EST
[#35]
they got that big chunk cut away
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Posted: 5/18/2024 9:52:31 AM EST
[#36]
Look how far down the bow of the Dali is.
Almost looks like it's stuck in there like a dart. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 9:58:35 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Look how far down the bow of the Dali is. Almost looks like it's stuck in there like a dart. I wonder what the calculated weight of the section of 4-lane highway is. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:45:19 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Look how far down the bow of the Dali is. Almost looks like it's stuck in there like a dart. The coast guard captain said right after the demo that there was water ballast helping to hold the ship down and they would release it to help float the ship. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 11:01:49 AM EST
[#39]
Looks like they might be rigging this crows foot looking steel piece. Hard to tell.
 From the other side view looks like the crane is rigged to it.  they are spraying water on the base of it. Probably while they cut it. Claw has another chunk of steel. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 11:06:19 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like they might be rigging this crows foot looking steel piece. Hard to tell. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/367483/crows_foot-3217278.png From the other side view looks like the crane is rigged to it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/367483/crows_foot_from_other_side-3217281.png @HDLS They are torching on the crow’s foot now. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 12:23:43 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @HDLS They are torching on the crow’s foot now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Looks like they might be rigging this crows foot looking steel piece. Hard to tell. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/367483/crows_foot-3217278.png From the other side view looks like the crane is rigged to it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/367483/crows_foot_from_other_side-3217281.png @HDLS They are torching on the crow’s foot now. It's gone...   
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Posted: 5/18/2024 12:38:26 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryI was surprised they they felt it necessary to remove that piece. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 12:46:31 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was surprised they they felt it necessary to remove that piece. I think they have come to the conclusion that they have to get as much weight off that bow that they can before they try to float the ship. I would like to see a pic of the stern to see how high it's sticking out of the water. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 12:51:59 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think they have come to the conclusion that they have to get as much weight off that bow that they can before they try to float the ship. I would like to see a pic of the stern to see how high it's sticking out of the water. Yeah. All we ever see is the same damn camera angle. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 1:17:16 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think they have come to the conclusion that they have to get as much weight off that bow that they can before they try to float the ship. I would like to see a pic of the stern to see how high it's sticking out of the water. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was surprised they they felt it necessary to remove that piece. I think they have come to the conclusion that they have to get as much weight off that bow that they can before they try to float the ship. I would like to see a pic of the stern to see how high it's sticking out of the water. What makes you think that? |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 1:21:29 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What makes you think that? They are removing anything that they do not deem stable so that: 1. It does not fall off and kil the inspection divers. 2. It does not fall off and foul the channels that Dali will use on her way to a heavy repair yard. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 1:28:18 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They are removing anything that they do not deem stable so that: 1. It does not fall off and kil the inspection divers. 2. It does not fall off and foul the channels that Dali will use on her way to a heavy repair yard. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What makes you think that? They are removing anything that they do not deem stable so that: 1. It does not fall off and kil the inspection divers. 2. It does not fall off and foul the channels that Dali will use on her way to a heavy repair yard. I asked dagger41 why he thinks they've now decided to remove as much weight as possible from the bow before refloating. (they've actually said otherwise officially) I know why they're removing and securing unsafe or unstable stuff, I'm the one that posted their official news release about that.
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Posted: 5/18/2024 1:28:19 PM EST
[#48]
Just comparing the truss to containers, that steel is several feet across and a few feet thick.
Does anybody know the actual dimensions of that steel, not the truss but the members that make up the truss? |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 1:35:33 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah. All we ever see is the same damn camera angle. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think they have come to the conclusion that they have to get as much weight off that bow that they can before they try to float the ship. I would like to see a pic of the stern to see how high it's sticking out of the water. Yeah. All we ever see is the same damn camera angle.         https://www.dvidshub.net/search/?q=&filter%5Btags%5D%5B0%5D=key-bridge-response-2024&filter%5Bdate%5D=19691231-20240408&view=grid&sort=date I think the amount of stern out of the water varies due to the tide if its hull is resting on the bottom |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 2:09:23 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just comparing the truss to containers, that steel is several feet across and a few feet thick. Does anybody know the actual dimensions of that steel, not the truss but the members that make up the truss? I like the containers being there to use as a reference for size. There's some pretty big stuff - equipment + debris - out there. |
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