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Posted: 2/16/2018 5:58:04 PM EDT
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So this means it is illegal for foreigners to try to influence US elections, even if they have little to no effect? So when is Soros going to be arrested?
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Posted: 2/16/2018 5:59:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rosenstein's ass is in a crack and he knows it. 
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Posted: 2/16/2018 5:59:55 PM EDT
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This is the same shit that Soros does - that's the guy they should indict... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bet Hitlary paid them. |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:01:27 PM EDT
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Sounds to me like it was more a fuck you to Hillary than to support trump. One article I read mentioned they were also pro Bernie.
Basically just shit posting Hillary on the internet 
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:02:06 PM EDT
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What about Zero fucking with the Israelis election with our tax dollars? 2005 documentary film “Our Brand is Crisis” https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0492714/ |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:02:42 PM EDT
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You know, Jimmy Carter and Ted Kennedy both asked the Soviets for help defeating Reagan in the 1980 and '84 elections.
The Soviets, who were supposed to be the other superpower. |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:03:29 PM EDT
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So Mueller gets Manafort and Flynn in record time, which proves Manafort and Flynn were being targeted, but the actual Russians that were interfering took more than a year?
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:05:02 PM EDT
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He can write a book and make it all back, while suing the shit out of people for slander among other things. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: @shocktrp what happened with the Flynn plea? Flynn's plea is going to be thrown out & the charges will be dropped with prejudice...  |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:07:10 PM EDT
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He's probably worried some huge con will be inserting something into that crack. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:08:26 PM EDT
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Shouldn't Flynn's charges be dropped without prejudice , not with ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: @shocktrp what happened with the Flynn plea? Flynn's plea is going to be thrown out & the charges will be dropped with prejudice... Dismissed with prejudice is basically the same as acquittal by a jury. Charges cannot be brought again. |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:09:36 PM EDT
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Sounds to me like it was more a fuck you to Hillary than to support trump. One article I read mentioned they were also pro Bernie. Basically just shit posting Hillary on the internet They were sowing discord and causing confusion. And thanks to the media and deep state, they had considerable success. Clinton may have been a major target at first, but that was because she was the expected winner. I think it is clear the Russians would much prefer her to Trump. Maybe they would have preferred Bernie or Stein over her. |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:09:39 PM EDT
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Sounds to me like it was more a fuck you to Hillary than to support trump. One article I read mentioned they were also pro Bernie. Basically just shit posting Hillary on the internet |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:10:32 PM EDT
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Yet Donna Brazile still walks free.....
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:11:33 PM EDT
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WashPo no less. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Remember when Obama traveled to Israel with the specific intent of interfering in the election of another country  |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:12:56 PM EDT
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/16/13-russian-nationals-indicted-for-interfering-in-us-elections.html |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:14:18 PM EDT
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I know that among Trump populists, they is a lot of sympathy for the Russians.
However, notice who was really doing Russia's bidding. What Russia wanted was to mess with us, and they did, and it is the fault of the mix of media, deep state, Dem operatives and NeverTrump. Undermining the incoming administration was what the Russians wanted, and that is what they got. And the NeverTrump types pushing this scandal effectively aided them despite their claims of opposing Russia. |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:14:26 PM EDT
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Sounds to me like it was more a fuck you to Hillary than to support trump. One article I read mentioned they were also pro Bernie. Basically just shit posting Hillary on the internet He never once mentioned they worked to support Bernie Sanders and also to harm President Trump. It appears they were attempting to cause as much chaos in our electoral process as they could. Of course that ass pirate never mentioned any of that. When he says crap like this it makes me think he is still on the payroll of Organizing for America. |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:21:32 PM EDT
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Earlier today, that ass pirate Shepard Smith on FNC said the russians were working to help President Trump and to hurt Hillary Clinton. It was his opening statement on his show. It was a blatant lie by omission of which it's only purpose was to mislead the viewers. He never once mentioned they worked to support Bernie Sanders and also to harm President Trump. It appears they were attempting to cause as much chaos in our electoral process as they could. Of course that ass pirate never mentioned any of that. When he says crap like this it makes me think he is still on the payroll of Organizing for America. |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:22:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shouldn't Flynn's charges be dropped without prejudice , not with ? That should be the penalty for prosecutorial misconduct - not "oh well, you caught us, so we'll just start all over & try again." |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:23:32 PM EDT
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The left fell for it hook, line, and sinker. All the protests, all the Trump hate in the media, and the Russians were laughing their asses off. I think the Russians saw how unhinged the Leftists were about Trump even being a candidate and decided to stoke that insanity. It only took 13 because the Left gave them so much to work with. TC |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:27:40 PM EDT
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Prosecutor: Sir. Did you or did you not post "LOL slab'o'beef" on Twitter? Defendant: Lol wut? Prosecutor: I WANT THE TRUTH! Defendant: no u https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/61337/Tom-Cruise-Lt-Daniel-Kaffee-453749.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All of this to bust some social media trolls. Defendant: Lol wut? Prosecutor: I WANT THE TRUTH! Defendant: no u https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/61337/Tom-Cruise-Lt-Daniel-Kaffee-453749.JPG Rooting out Russian trolls.
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:35:37 PM EDT
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I have a question...
Did the Russians look like this guy:  Attached FileCause THAT’S who beat HRC on the Internet. TC |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:37:51 PM EDT
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He just looks like the kid that got his ass kicked all through school, then grew up & took a job to try to get back at everyone... http://d2pggiv3o55wnc.cloudfront.net/oann/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/AP18047678142681.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Rosenstein's ass is in a crack and he knows it. http://d2pggiv3o55wnc.cloudfront.net/oann/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/AP18047678142681.jpg  Himmler Smiles |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:49:38 PM EDT
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"Information warfare"??
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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:54:00 PM EDT
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this doesn't make much sense. they posed 2 rallies , one for and one against POTUS elect? so they were just fucking with us,, more or less.. rather than trying to get one person elected. ETA: the best part is no American knew about this and were played along with everyone else. 
Schmart thinkin', Vlad! 
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Posted: 2/16/2018 7:01:47 PM EDT
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Holy crap! How much did we just spend to find out that their are trolls on the internet?! JFC!
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Posted: 2/16/2018 7:02:02 PM EDT
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That is a very strange indictment. It looks like there are legitimate violations of federal identity theft laws for using fake SSNs and birthdays to open paypal accounts to pay for some of this stuff, and then that gets bootstrapped up into some kind of conspiracy to "defraud" the United States. But it looks like the only "fraud" which occurred was that some local groups ended up paying these fake accounts for things like organizing, etc. It is a very weak indictment other than the identity theft stuff. For fraud, you have to prove that a misrepresentation was material and caused financial loss. So Russianbot A promises to help organize a rally to protest Trump. Russianbot A get paid to do so. Russianbot A organizes the rally. Where is the fraud? A fraudulent misrepresentation has to be material and cause pecuniary loss. That didn't happen. Yes, Russianbot A said they were "Joe Smith." But the service paid for was to organize a rally. If the rally was organized, no pecuniary loss, no fraud.
I suspect they knew this would never see the inside of the courtroom. The Russians are almost certainly Russian intelligence or their contractors and will never be extradited. Indictment |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 7:05:29 PM EDT
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All of this to bust some social media trolls. By Rainbow goodtead- itafuri, trans blogger. |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 7:09:10 PM EDT
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Yet Donna Brazile still walks free..... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7KMQlNU0AEBQSA.jpg:large |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 7:10:43 PM EDT
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All the hysteria about muh Russia and this is all they come up with? Those involved should consider seppuku instead of wasting money on this nonsense.
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Posted: 2/16/2018 7:12:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/16/2018 7:12:13 PM EDT
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Has anyone done a welfare check on the under_score brothers?
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Posted: 2/16/2018 7:18:52 PM EDT
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Has anyone done a welfare check on the under_score brothers? |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 7:19:27 PM EDT
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So this means it is illegal for foreigners to try to influence US elections, even if they have little to no effect? So when is Soros going to be arrested? |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 7:20:20 PM EDT
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Has anyone done a welfare check on the under_score brothers? |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 7:22:02 PM EDT
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wait?
we can't make fun of foreign politicians. that bitch from canada and her german husband are gonna be pissed! thats not even mentioning the french person and his grandma! |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 7:22:45 PM EDT
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The least they can do is come in one last time & post "Fuck it, I'm Foing" before they disappear... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Has anyone done a welfare check on the under_score brothers?
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Posted: 2/16/2018 7:34:59 PM EDT
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Here are the statutes cited in the indictment.
18 USC 2 (a) Whoever commits an offense against the United States or aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces or procures its commission, is punishable as a principal.(b) Whoever willfully causes an act to be done which if directly performed by him or another would be an offense against the United States, is punishable as a principal. 18 USC 371 If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. If, however, the offense, the commission of which is the object of the conspiracy, is a misdemeanor only, the punishment for such conspiracy shall not exceed the maximum punishment provided for such misdemeanor. 18 USC 1349 Any person who attempts or conspires to commit any offense under this chapter shall be subject to the same penalties as those prescribed for the offense, the commission of which was the object of the attempt or conspiracy. 18 USC 1028A Too long to repost. But this is the only substantive one. As you would suspect, identity theft is illegal. See here. The other statutes cited all deal with the remedy of forfeiture. But any conspiracy claim needs an underlying offense. You have to conspire to break the law, and the only law that seems to be broken was identity theft. As Professor Dershowitz keeps saying, show me in the U.S. Code where conspiring with Russia is a crime?  Dershowitz questions Russia counsel: Where's the crime? |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 7:36:33 PM EDT
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That is a very strange indictment. It looks like there are legitimate violations of federal identity theft laws for using fake SSNs and birthdays to open paypal accounts to pay for some of this stuff, and then that gets bootstrapped up into some kind of conspiracy to "defraud" the United States. But it looks like the only "fraud" which occurred was that some local groups ended up paying these fake accounts for things like organizing, etc. It is a very weak indictment other than the identity theft stuff. For fraud, you have to prove that a misrepresentation was material and caused financial loss. So Russianbot A promises to help organize a rally to protest Trump. Russianbot A get paid to do so. Russianbot A organizes the rally. Where is the fraud? A fraudulent misrepresentation has to be material and cause pecuniary loss. That didn't happen. Yes, Russianbot A said they were "Joe Smith." But the service paid for was to organize a rally. If the rally was organized, no pecuniary loss, no fraud. I suspect they knew this would never see the inside of the courtroom. The Russians are almost certainly Russian intelligence or their contractors and will never be extradited. Indictment |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 7:36:48 PM EDT
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So this means it is illegal for foreigners to try to influence US elections, even if they have little to no effect? So when is Soros going to be arrested? |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 7:41:14 PM EDT
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He has dual citizenship unfortunately... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So this means it is illegal for foreigners to try to influence US elections, even if they have little to no effect? So when is Soros going to be arrested? 
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Posted: 2/16/2018 8:14:25 PM EDT
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So Mueller gets Manafort and Flynn in record time, which proves Manafort and Flynn were being targeted, but the actual Russians that were interfering took more than a year? |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 8:24:59 PM EDT
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Holy crap! How much did we just spend to find out that their are trolls on the internet?! JFC! 
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Posted: 2/16/2018 8:31:37 PM EDT
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It went beyond just internet trolls. They even funded this cage! https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/08/04/iowa-parade-float-depicts-hillary-clinton-behind-bars/88076012/ https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/952c91ad847c38691a52089c1473bd2b26880a1e/c=18-0-760-558&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/2016/08/03/IAGroup/DesMoines/636058268698186167-Hillary-Clinton-float.jpg 
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Posted: 2/16/2018 8:33:00 PM EDT
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So have the mod's found out their screen names yet ?
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Posted: 2/16/2018 8:37:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/16/2018 8:44:49 PM EDT
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 Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein To Make Law Enforcement Announcement | CNBC |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 8:50:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We need to have a conversation about the 1st amendment. It's shit posting. And it's not ok. By Rainbow goodtead- itafuri, trans blogger. |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 8:52:25 PM EDT
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I don't see their handle in the thread title anymore for some reason.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Has anyone done a welfare check on the under_score brothers? They were becoming increasingly hysterical. I think they both crossed the line at the same time. |
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Posted: 2/16/2018 8:52:52 PM EDT
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Russian 'Bots' actually affecting the outcome of the election http://newphillysports.com/milsurp/0~Animated/robotfail.GIF For some reason it reminds me of the Senate Hearings from Iron Man 2  Iron Man 2 Bad Suits |
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