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Posted: 4/13/2021 1:44:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOff topic but that top pic of the deputies duty rig reminded me that High Speed Gear is running 20 freaking weeks behind on their orders. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 1:45:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pismo Beach used to be a really cool place to go camping. Used to camp there every year with my family. Brought my kids back there many years ago. Still cool. My best friend was going to Cal Poly when this happened. Is the billboard still up off hwy 101? I always figured it was a murder. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 1:47:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The chances are low(ish) but never zero 
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Posted: 4/13/2021 1:47:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Coroners van reported to have arrived on scene. Parts be parts. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 1:49:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/13/2021 1:49:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't recognize that person, I'm guessing it's from a movie? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Damn. How the f could you kill someone and bury them on your property. That shit would haunt me daily. That's because you're probably not a psychopath. Says the man with THAT avatar.....  Know thyself... If you like good science fiction, you should read The Expanse series. My avatar is the character Amos. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 1:51:01 PM EDT
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Quoted: 1 2 or 3 1. DAD did it. Son covered it up. 2. SON did it. Dad covered it up. 3. Totally fucked up Father/Son bonding and they did it together. If option 2 I wonder if elderly pops takes the full wrap to protect younger son. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 1:51:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn. How the f could you kill someone and bury them on your property. That shit would haunt me daily. It's a well known fact that many serial killers love returning to the site where they disposed of bodies. They get off reliving the excitement of the initial crime. This guy probably relished having her under a patio the whole time. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 1:52:02 PM EDT
[#9]
Glad to see justice served. Better late than never.
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Posted: 4/13/2021 1:53:02 PM EDT
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I got interested in this case through a podcast.
Good deal if her family can get closure. Fuck the sorry motherfuckers that would do this to someone. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 1:53:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If option 2 I wonder if elderly pops takes the full wrap to protect younger son. Won't matter. If there is a body under that slab. (or more than one) both are going to prison. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 1:55:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a well known fact that many serial killers love returning to the site where they disposed of bodies. They get off reliving the excitement of the initial crime. This guy probably relished having her under a patio the whole time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Damn. How the f could you kill someone and bury them on your property. That shit would haunt me daily. It's a well known fact that many serial killers love returning to the site where they disposed of bodies. They get off reliving the excitement of the initial crime. This guy probably relished having her under a patio the whole time. If that's true, it's begging the question of where are the other bodies. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 1:57:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actual concrete cutting w/o water to keep the dust down will produce a huge amount of dust. I would suspect they don't use the water feature on the saw due to the human remains they are looking for. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What does it mean that the dust appeared to be flowing upward? Is that the off gassing of the human remains pushing dust up? I've seen a few CSI type shows and first I have heard of this that I can recall. That makes sense, but what's the plan when they're cutting and her remains are IN the concrete. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 1:59:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That makes sense, but what's the plan when they're cutting and her remains are IN the concrete. Concrete does a very good job of preserving remains. One of the murders here had a guy encased in concrete for 25 years and you could still see the logo on his T-shirt. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:02:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  How much you think he wants for the truck? |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:03:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hadn't even heard of this case. It was national news... 25 years ago. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:04:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a well known fact that many serial killers love returning to the site where they disposed of bodies. They get off reliving the excitement of the initial crime. This guy probably relished having her under a patio the whole time. The case doesn't really fit a serial killer profile though, does it? More of an opportunist who sexually assaulted someone and then murdered them to clean up evidence. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:08:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That makes sense, but what's the plan when they're cutting and her remains are IN the concrete. I read a search warrant affidavit from the 2000's, she is in the dirt. The entire back yard was concrete and planter boxes where dug out of the concrete around the time she went missing. Why they did not dig them up back then I'll probably never know. Mom found an earring at the house that didn't belong, gave it to the cops and they lost it. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:11:57 PM EDT
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Dibbs on the GMC pickup.
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:13:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn. How the f could you kill someone and bury them on your property. That shit would haunt me daily. Some serial killers will drive across multiple states with a hacked up body in the backseat. Imagine being at a 4 way stop and the local cop is staring at you. That doesn't bother crazy people. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:17:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn. How the f could you kill someone and bury them on your property. That shit would haunt me daily. It would be comfortable, like burying pets in the back yard to keep them near you. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:17:34 PM EDT
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apparently they searched the place a month ago and towed a Volkswagen Cabriolet away
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:17:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What does it mean that the dust appeared to be flowing upward? Is that the off gassing of the human remains pushing dust up? I've seen a few CSI type shows and first I have heard of this that I can recall. Not 20+ years ago... It's probably a demo/quickie saw being run with just an abrasive blade and no water so it doesn't taint whatever they're looking for. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:18:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Won't matter. If there is a body under that slab. (or more than one) both are going to prison. Oh. I thought the state would have to like prove who did it or something. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:19:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It shouldn’t really have mattered. They should have torn it up at least in the beginning even without technology. supposedly it would have cost too much money to replace the retaining wall if they dug it out? Will be a real kick in the nuts if the body is right where everyone suspected all along. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:20:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's because you're probably not a psychopath. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Damn. How the f could you kill someone and bury them on your property. That shit would haunt me daily. That's because you're probably not a psychopath. Guess I'm not a psychopath either. I wouldn't want to walk or drive by the area where a crime was commited. Pretty obvoius that it would be the first place searched too. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:20:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actual concrete cutting w/o water to keep the dust down will produce a huge amount of dust. I would suspect they don't use the water feature on the saw due to the human remains they are looking for. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What does it mean that the dust appeared to be flowing upward? Is that the off gassing of the human remains pushing dust up? I've seen a few CSI type shows and first I have heard of this that I can recall. Hope they’re adhering to OSHA 1926.1153. They really should be using water on the blade. Without it, the blade will overheat and warp. And it’s dusty as fuck. I was a concrete cutter for 20 years so at least I know I’ll probably die of some sort of lung disease. 
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:23:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What does it mean that the dust appeared to be flowing upward? Is that the off gassing of the human remains pushing dust up? I've seen a few CSI type shows and first I have heard of this that I can recall. Those gasses are long gone. It's concrete dust. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:25:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. She was abducted from her bedroom. The media would confuse the cases on occasion. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wasn't there another girl named Smart, from UT or somewhere, that as kidnapped around the same time?  Don't let my daughter marry a man named Smart, it's for her own safety. Check. The media would confuse the cases on occasion. She was the closest thing we have to a modern "girl stolen by indians". Thankfully and surprisingly she seems to have managed a normal life. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:29:56 PM EDT
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They have cut into what appears to be concrete due to the dust flowing upward Somehow I think that the Liberal article writer has gotten cause and effect confused.
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:30:32 PM EDT
[#31]
Damn. That's been 25 years.. I'm old
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:36:09 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryThanks for the recommendation, I'll have something to listen to at work other than a C12 Cat. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:36:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if modern technology has allowed them to look into/through the concrete On February 11, 2021, KSBY reported that Paul Flores was arrested by the Los Angeles Police Department in Rancho Palos Verdes, California, on suspicion of being a felon in possession of a firearm, which is a felony.[32] On March 15, 2021, a search warrant was issued to search Ruben Flores' home, including the use of cadaver dogs and ground-penetrating radar. An older-model Volkswagen was being towed from the home of Ruben Flores after cadaver dogs searched the vehicle. [33] On April 13, 2021, Paul and Ruben Flores were taken into custody by San Luis Obispo County police officers in relation to the case. [34] |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:39:01 PM EDT
[#34]
Unless the body is in concrete, I'm surprised there's anything left to find after 25 years. Glad her family finally gets some closure.
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:39:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They have been searching the Flores' yards for decades. Unusual, new concrete was noted more than 20 years ago by investigators, as well as reported by neighbors. looking at Google Earth, the concrete pad was there in 1994. Now they could have replaced the concrete if they did bury her there. 
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Posted: 4/13/2021 2:40:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn. How the f could you kill someone and bury them on your property. That shit would haunt me daily. I kinda think its not uncommon, as at least you have control over the property, maybe some guilt on top who knows. be interesting to pick their brains on it. I'm sure someone has. few years back a guy on his death bed admitted to murders, and said he burred them in the garage of the house he was renting. sure enough they found em shortly after the dude died. guess it never left him. I knew the guy who lived in the house, they had to unpile the poor guys collections of old cars and bondo dust just to get to the site. it was quite a thing, long garage, he had a old corvette in there he talked about for years. nice guy, died shortly after... unrelated, cancer or something, probably from all the bondo dust. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 3:18:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: looking at Google Earth, the concrete pad was there in 1994. Now they could have replaced the concrete if they did bury her there. https://i.imgur.com/k3sitt1.jpg Wrong house. Branch street was mom's house when he told a friend he killed her and left her there. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 3:20:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wrong house. Branch street was mom's house when he told a friend he killed her and left her there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: looking at Google Earth, the concrete pad was there in 1994. Now they could have replaced the concrete if they did bury her there. https://i.imgur.com/k3sitt1.jpg Wrong house. Branch street was mom's house when he told a friend he killed her and left her there. they're at his Dad's house |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 3:24:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh. I thought the state would have to like prove who did it or something. Accessory to the crime. That law that GD never seems to understand. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 3:27:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I moved to that area in 1998 and it was still big news at that time. Glad they finally figured it out and arrested that asshole. We moved away in 1997. I remember this case like it was yesterday. Hard to believe it was 25 years ago. I hope they can finally prosecute him. 
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Posted: 4/13/2021 3:29:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: looking at Google Earth, the concrete pad was there in 1994. Now they could have replaced the concrete if they did bury her there. https://i.imgur.com/k3sitt1.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They have been searching the Flores' yards for decades. Unusual, new concrete was noted more than 20 years ago by investigators, as well as reported by neighbors. looking at Google Earth, the concrete pad was there in 1994. Now they could have replaced the concrete if they did bury her there. https://i.imgur.com/k3sitt1.jpg they had google earth in 1994? |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 3:36:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: they had google earth in 1994? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: They have been searching the Flores' yards for decades. Unusual, new concrete was noted more than 20 years ago by investigators, as well as reported by neighbors. looking at Google Earth, the concrete pad was there in 1994. Now they could have replaced the concrete if they did bury her there. https://i.imgur.com/k3sitt1.jpg they had google earth in 1994? It might surprise you, but aerial surveying and photography has been around awhile. Google didn't invent it. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 3:39:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Accessory to the crime. That law that GD never seems to understand. Please remember everyone here is just a simpleton beneath your god-like worldly LEO knowledge. Do they just proclaim "Thou art an accessory" and you go straight to jail or what? Without a confession or evidence to prove it wasn't just one of them acting alone is it hard to put both behind bars a quarter century after the fact? |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 3:42:57 PM EDT
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Tag for updates
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Posted: 4/13/2021 3:46:39 PM EDT
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Charged with murder
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Posted: 4/13/2021 3:53:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If that's true, it's begging the question of where are the other bodies. Probably the first time on GD I've seen that phrase used properly. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 3:55:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not 20+ years ago... It's probably a demo/quickie saw being run with just an abrasive blade and no water so it doesn't taint whatever they're looking for. Also if they had a ground penetrating radar survey they know what they're after, so after a certain depth it'll be hand chisels and brushes. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 3:57:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably the first time on GD I've seen that phrase used properly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If that's true, it's begging the question of where are the other bodies. Probably the first time on GD I've seen that phrase used properly. 
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Posted: 4/13/2021 4:02:14 PM EDT
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Imagine if it's not even her.
 My kids better learn how to party properly before high school is over. Passing out after midnight just out in the open is not a great plan most of the time, especially if you are a young girl. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 4:04:43 PM EDT
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From my understanding it wasn’t just that she was buried and a slab poured over her but the body was basically incased in concrete under the ground.
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