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Link Posted: 11/8/2023 8:27:47 PM EDT
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And like normal we won't do shit.

Link Posted: 11/8/2023 8:27:55 PM EDT
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Which is above manpad.. So thats the question. What kind of thing are they using to identify, track and shoot down a target at 20K feet.



"The Stinger missile has an altitude range of approximately 11,000 feet (3 kilometers). It has a range of fire of 2.4 to 5 miles (4 to 8 kilometers). The Stinger missile is designed to engage low-altitude aircraft and helicopters, such as bombers, fighters, transports, or drones.

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Here are some other altitudes for the Stinger missile:
FIM-92 Stinger: Altitude: 12,500ft (3.8 km)
FIM-92A: Maximum altitude: 3.5 km
Stinger FIM-92B: Minimum altitude: 30 m
The Stinger missile has a passive infrared seeker that emits no radiation that a target aircraft can detect. Instead, it guides on the infrared energy (heat) emitted by the target. "
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This isn't their first surface to air kill.
https://theaviationist.com/2018/01/09/yemens-shiite-houthis-claim-saudi-f-15-kill-with-sam-over-capital-city-of-sanaa/
Link Posted: 11/8/2023 8:37:39 PM EDT
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Kind of impressed they could
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For the "pilot". I hope he doesn't get PTSD.

Link Posted: 11/8/2023 8:41:26 PM EDT
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Maybe this is what happened to the Loadmaster General?
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Snort….

Link Posted: 11/8/2023 8:49:27 PM EDT
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Yes, it's ALL true. An African tribe called the "Houthis" managed to create or procure a surface to air missile and shoot down a cutting edge American UAV with it.

What kind of fool would believe that?
Link Posted: 11/8/2023 8:50:06 PM EDT
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Did the operator survive?
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Loadmaster General has reported back in with HH6. He is ok.
Link Posted: 11/8/2023 9:07:52 PM EDT
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Do drone operators go to SERE? Does he/she get a purple heart?
Link Posted: 11/8/2023 9:09:09 PM EDT
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So bomb the shit out of the houthi retards.
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Link Posted: 11/8/2023 9:09:23 PM EDT
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Say, where is Troutman anyway?
Link Posted: 11/8/2023 9:12:33 PM EDT
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Honestly we shouldn't even be there.  We are not the worlds police force. That whole area needs to sort it's self out on it's own.
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You're not wrong.
Link Posted: 11/8/2023 9:18:57 PM EDT
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I mean an SA6 will get to 50K and thats no new thing. I just didnt think they had the logistics to get modern tracking radar to see that MFer much less shoot it down or the capabilities to import anything that large.

https://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/east_europe/russia/missile_vehicle/sa-6_gainful/SA-6_Gainful_2K12_Kub_mobile_medium-range_air_defense_missile_system_on_tracked_vehicle_Russia_925_001.jpg

Then again if you throw enough shit in the air you might get lucky.
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Iran Backed means. Iran Backed
Link Posted: 11/8/2023 9:28:50 PM EDT
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I mean an SA6 will get to 50K and thats no new thing. I just didnt think they had the logistics to get modern tracking radar to see that MFer much less shoot it down or the capabilities to import anything that large.

https://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/east_europe/russia/missile_vehicle/sa-6_gainful/SA-6_Gainful_2K12_Kub_mobile_medium-range_air_defense_missile_system_on_tracked_vehicle_Russia_925_001.jpg

Then again if you throw enough shit in the air you might get lucky.
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They have SA-6s they inherited from the previous Yemen government
Link Posted: 11/8/2023 9:29:56 PM EDT
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Houthis have several SAM types including improvised versions.
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with what?  Whats the cruising altitude of a reaper?



Reapers, like other UAVs, are able to fly at an altitude of 50,000 ft (15 km) and can loiter over targets for about 24 hours, making them useful for surveillance missions. Crucially, all of this occurs with a flight crew that remains based in the United States, away from danger.


Again, what in the shit are they using to hit  that?


They're usually cruising lower than that, closer to 20k.



Which is above manpad.. So thats the question. What kind of thing are they using to identify, track and shoot down a target at 20K feet.



"The Stinger missile has an altitude range of approximately 11,000 feet (3 kilometers). It has a range of fire of 2.4 to 5 miles (4 to 8 kilometers). The Stinger missile is designed to engage low-altitude aircraft and helicopters, such as bombers, fighters, transports, or drones.

Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance
Here are some other altitudes for the Stinger missile:
FIM-92 Stinger: Altitude: 12,500ft (3.8 km)
FIM-92A: Maximum altitude: 3.5 km
Stinger FIM-92B: Minimum altitude: 30 m
The Stinger missile has a passive infrared seeker that emits no radiation that a target aircraft can detect. Instead, it guides on the infrared energy (heat) emitted by the target. "


Houthis have several SAM types including improvised versions.


It's not their first rodeo. They shot down two MQ-9s in 2019 with SA-6s.
Link Posted: 11/8/2023 9:31:39 PM EDT
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So directionally drill an oil well from Saudi and drink their milkshake for $300 million.

Kharn
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haha!  this alone made me register as a member (long time lurker).
Link Posted: 11/8/2023 9:35:28 PM EDT
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Did we apologize yet?
Link Posted: 11/8/2023 9:35:52 PM EDT
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I hope the pilot got out safely and recovered quickly.
Link Posted: 11/8/2023 9:40:39 PM EDT
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Any word on a rescue mission for the pilot?
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He needs to be uber'd from the bar.
Link Posted: 11/8/2023 9:57:53 PM EDT
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Why is our drone there?
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They rocketed or tried to ADAB last year or the year before,  can't remember.
Link Posted: 11/8/2023 9:59:23 PM EDT
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He’s at the O Club right now telling the harrowing tale.
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Getting counseled while enjoying their three drinks at the camel.
Link Posted: 11/8/2023 10:25:37 PM EDT
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You're not wrong.
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Honestly we shouldn't even be there.  We are not the worlds police force. That whole area needs to sort it's self out on it's own.

You're not wrong.


But they attack Americans!!

(that are over here, because we fight stupid wars that are not our wars)

We will never fix the ME or central Asia. Bring them all home
Link Posted: 11/8/2023 10:38:37 PM EDT
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Say, where is Troutman anyway?
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Stuck in a Trump thread.

He changed has name a while ago.
Link Posted: 11/9/2023 12:06:57 AM EDT
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"The Biden administration removed the Houthis from the US list of terrorist groups in 2021. "

LOL.
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Double yikes
Link Posted: 11/9/2023 12:20:23 AM EDT
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I hope the pilot got out safely and recovered quickly.
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What I'm about to tell you is classified, it could end my career. We were in the worst dogfight I could've dreamed of. There were bogeys like fireflies all over the sky. His MQ-9 was hit. He was wounded.  He could've made it back, stayed in it killed three of them before he bought it.  But that's not something the AF tells families especially when the fight happened over the wrong line on some map.
Link Posted: 11/9/2023 12:26:20 AM EDT
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Did the operator survive?
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Probably got a Combat award, a DSC and a VA claim for PTSD.
Link Posted: 11/9/2023 12:48:03 AM EDT
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Stuck in a Trump thread.

He changed has name a while ago.
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LOL thanks!
Link Posted: 11/9/2023 12:59:16 AM EDT
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Probably got a Combat award, a DSC and a VA claim for PTSD.
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Link Posted: 11/9/2023 1:20:59 AM EDT
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with what?  Whats the cruising altitude of a reaper?





Again, what in the shit are they using to hit  that?
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The U2 that was carrying Major Powers in 1960 was supposedly around 70K feet above sea level and the Soviets shot it down with an SA-2, which in comparison to modern missiles would be like a Studebaker compared to a modern BMW.

Even cheap export missiles nowadays could hit a Reaper at 50K altitude as long as they could get a radar lock.
Link Posted: 11/9/2023 1:26:14 AM EDT
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Yes, it's ALL true. An African tribe called the "Houthis" managed to create or procure a surface to air missile and shoot down a cutting edge American UAV with it.

What kind of fool would believe that?
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Not sure if serious.  

The DoD has confirmed they shot it down.
Link Posted: 11/9/2023 1:27:40 AM EDT
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What I'm about to tell you is classified, it could end my career. We were in the worst dogfight I could've dreamed of. There were bogeys like fireflies all over the sky. His MQ-9 was hit. He was wounded.  He could've made it back, stayed in it killed three of them before he bought it.  But that's not something the AF tells families especially when the fight happened over the wrong line on some map.
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I see what you did there....
Link Posted: 11/9/2023 1:31:20 AM EDT
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Which is above manpad.. So thats the question. What kind of thing are they using to identify, track and shoot down a target at 20K feet.



"The Stinger missile has an altitude range of approximately 11,000 feet (3 kilometers). It has a range of fire of 2.4 to 5 miles (4 to 8 kilometers). The Stinger missile is designed to engage low-altitude aircraft and helicopters, such as bombers, fighters, transports, or drones.

Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance
Here are some other altitudes for the Stinger missile:
FIM-92 Stinger: Altitude: 12,500ft (3.8 km)
FIM-92A: Maximum altitude: 3.5 km
Stinger FIM-92B: Minimum altitude: 30 m
The Stinger missile has a passive infrared seeker that emits no radiation that a target aircraft can detect. Instead, it guides on the infrared energy (heat) emitted by the target. "

This isn't their first surface to air kill.
https://theaviationist.com/2018/01/09/yemens-shiite-houthis-claim-saudi-f-15-kill-with-sam-over-capital-city-of-sanaa/


A repurposed AAM fired from a pickup?!  And IR guided.  What will they think of next?

Nobody tell anyone in the TWA 800 thread....
Link Posted: 11/9/2023 1:33:28 AM EDT
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What I'm about to tell you is classified, it could end my career. We were in the worst dogfight I could've dreamed of. There were bogeys like fireflies all over the sky. His MQ-9 was hit. He was wounded.  He could've made it back, stayed in it killed three of them before he bought it.  But that's not something the AF tells families especially when the fight happened over the wrong line on some map.
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I hope the pilot got out safely and recovered quickly.


What I'm about to tell you is classified, it could end my career. We were in the worst dogfight I could've dreamed of. There were bogeys like fireflies all over the sky. His MQ-9 was hit. He was wounded.  He could've made it back, stayed in it killed three of them before he bought it.  But that's not something the AF tells families especially when the fight happened over the wrong line on some map.


Kenny Loggins intensifies
Link Posted: 11/9/2023 1:47:21 AM EDT
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To poorly paraphrase a quote from an old old man: "If you want to get into a war with us you better have an F-15 not an AR-15!"

Well? It looks like Afghanistan sure as hell did not have an F-15 and the Hooties don't either. Yet here we are.
Link Posted: 11/9/2023 2:00:29 AM EDT
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Not sure if serious.  

The DoD has confirmed they shot it down.
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Yes, it's ALL true. An African tribe called the "Houthis" managed to create or procure a surface to air missile and shoot down a cutting edge American UAV with it.

What kind of fool would believe that?
Not sure if serious.  

The DoD has confirmed they shot it down.


You just bleeped over the African part?
Link Posted: 11/9/2023 6:18:31 AM EDT
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What I'm about to tell you is classified, it could end my career. We were in the worst dogfight I could've dreamed of. There were bogeys like fireflies all over the sky. His MQ-9 was hit. He was wounded.  He could've made it back, stayed in it killed three of them before he bought it.  But that's not something the AF tells families especially when the fight happened over the wrong line on some map.
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So, the A/C went out in the box and they moved to one 2 spots away?
Link Posted: 11/9/2023 8:57:38 AM EDT
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and NOTHING will be done about it
Link Posted: 11/9/2023 9:00:51 AM EDT
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So bomb the shit out of the houthi retards.
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We have been since Obama was in office.  Tens of thousands of women and children have had the shot bombed out of them by the USA.  

Congratulations!
Link Posted: 11/9/2023 3:13:06 PM EDT
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Wait till GD finds out IRGC is running ops in Africa
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Until you realize it’s not camel herding houthis in sandals but Iranians in Yemen,

Wait till GD finds out IRGC is running ops in Africa


Tehran to Caracas flights are pretty full too
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 7:52:47 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/10/2023 7:57:28 AM EDT
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He’s a bit shaken up.  After wiping the Cheeto dust off his fingers, taking a chug of Mountain Dew he managed to write “0” in his log book for # of landings for this flight.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 7:57:39 AM EDT
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Tehran to Caracas flights are pretty full too
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Havana as well, the Chinese and Iranians are all over Latin America but you’re right it’s mainly Venezuela and Cuba https://www.reuters.com/world/brazil-minister-angered-by-israeli-statement-foiled-hezbollah-attack-2023-11-09/
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 8:11:52 AM EDT
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Hope the pilot ejected in time from his desk chair.
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